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Home My Public Portal AboutComprehensive Water Planning -- 2012-07-30 Minutes \o,t4uH WnS igiq,/ EW � r„f o�A�,�F��, Comprehensive Water Planning ° ° "F Town of Brewster Committee null 2198 Main Street °• =I ” _i C Brewster, Massachusetts 02631-1898 „—00' ,� (508) 896-3701 x1233 ��niriniuii�iu��„ FAX (508) 896-8089 Date Approved:9/10/12 Vote:7-0 TOWN OF BREWSTER MINUTES OF COMPREHENSIVE WATER PLANNING COMMITTEE (CWPC) Work Session (extra) Meeting Monday, July 30, 2012 at 4:30 pm Brewster Town Office Building Chairman Lem Skidmore convened the CWPC meeting at 4:30 pm in the Brewster Town Office Building with members, Elizabeth Taylor, Joanne Hughes,John O'Reilly, Russell Schell, Dave Bennett, Bruce Evans,and Dan Ryan present. Absent: Pat Hughes Also Present: Sue Leven, Jim Gallagher, Peter Johnson, Paula Miller Recording or Taping Notification The Chair read"As required by the Open Meeting Law we are informing you that the Town will be audio taping this public meeting. In addition, if anyone else intends to audio tape this meeting they are required to inform the chair.” Supporting Documents: AGENDA 073012_A Storm water Site Review Handout 1.Review comments and rank sites for storm water retrofit projects 073012_B Revised Presentation Handout, HWG 2.Review updates to the HWG presentation for community meeting 8/6 3.Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate 4.Review corrected minutes from 6/25/12 11, Reviewicomments and rank sites for storm water retrofit projects The committee reviewed the document (073012_A) and discussed the rankings. Leven provided a summary. The top picks were Town Hall, Breakwater Beach Parking Lot, Crowell's Bog Landing, and Walker's Pond. HWG stated to Leven that there is no work to do at Fisherman Landing. The committee discussed the top four without Fisherman's Landing. Taylor was in favor of adding a rain garden at the Eddy School. The committee discussed storm water at Breakwater and the consodine ditch. Skidmore and Hughes, J like the Breakwater site. Schell asked about the Jolly Whaler proposal. Gallagher explained they still have designs. Schell commented further. Gallagher stated there is no funding. They discussed storm water and noted it goes into Paines Creek. Taylor added there are rain garden designs. Leven continued summarizing the storm water document, in particular the shaded areas. Committee Top Picks: Breakwater, Crowell's Bog, Walker's Pond Hughes, J asked for Town Staff/HWG feedback or top picks. Leven Top Picks: Town Hall, Breakwater, Walker's Pond Miller Top Picks (From Leven): Crowell's Bog CWPC 7-30-12.docx Page 1 of 4 Walker's Pond Fisherman's landing Leven does not recommend Crowell's Bog. There is a berm that sends water away from the landing. The Curb needs to be fixed by DPW. She explained Breakwater has bigger issues and more benefit. Gallagher stated no comment. Skidmore asked the committee twice, if they should keep or remove Crowell's Bog. HWG had suggested a rain garden at Crowell's Bog. O'Reilly stated the Pond Oaks developer was going to address runoff into Crowell's Bog. He explained the developer was supposed to replace alum pipe with a swale. It might be an opportunity to improve the landing. Skidmore asked for a quick poll of the committee to determine if Crowell's Bog Landing should be on or off list. Evans, not on list Taylor, off list Hughes, J off list Bennett, high visibility, supports it Schell, off list Ryan, off list Ryan asked if DPW will fix Breakwater Landing. Leven explained HWG will provide 10% design for each site Then the Town will try to fund through Town funds or grants. Hughes, J made a Motion to designate three choices for the storm water retrofit projects, 10% design from HWG, O'Reilly Second, All Aye, Vote 7-0. 2. Review updates to the HWG presentation for community meeting 8/6 Skidmore stated there are too many slides and in particular too many slides for sea level rising. He would like to see one slide. Committee Comments: Slide# #2, Leven stated a comment from Ed Lewis. He suggested listing the Town Staff that assists the committee. Skidmore stated HWG would need to change the background. Hughes, J stated to include this in the next presentation. Johnson will include Town Staff. #3, Remove third bullet { #13, Leven suggested mentioning build out completed in Aug. /Sept. #14, Taylor questioned existing conditions. There was continued discussion regarding the data source, lag between maps • and data. They decided to keep it. • #16, Skidmore suggested exempt or exclusions instead of"parcels removed from" • #17, Remove #19, Schell asked the committee if this slide was worthwhile. Skidmore noted HWG should explain fully. The committee discussed further. Bennett stated he is concerned that people might see a parcel marked not for development in the smart growth map. Johnson added that with the NRPD presentation they used generic land displayed They decided to remove#19. #20, 508 acres of open space looks like... #21, Schell concerned about soil characteristics/ #24, Schell concerned about definitions. (50% impacted, he thinks 100% impacted) He is concerned 327 people may not be complying #24 cont. Bennett suggested working on the term"unsuitable" The committee discussed unsuitable sites and title V. CWPC 7-30-12.docx Page 2 of 4 Bullets don't match slide#21. Hughes, J explained the notes from the presentation print out. The committee likes seeing the notes visible in the presentation. Delete"by poor soils" Use"areas currently challenged" instead of conditions for unsuitable for title V. Bennett suggested"title V limitations" #23, Hughes, P comments from Leven: Make the parcel lines stand out more in the slide. #24, Skidmore asked about upland impacted? He would like to remove upland. Use"challenged" not"impacted" Remove"poor soils" The committee discussed the numbers on slide#24. Schell stated he was concerned about the orange areas on the map. Bennett disagrees with Schell. He explained that people don't necessarily know they have a problem until they try to add on. Schell and Bennett discussed the map further. Schell objects to the date on#24. He is concerned that the slide will stir up trouble unnecessarily. Johnson stated he had to leave the meeting at 6pm. He gave an update regarding the 8/6 BCT meeting. • The library holds 125 people. • It is closed on Monday and will open for the meeting at 6pm. • He will call Mark Nelson of HWG • He noted the presentation is now 45 min. with questions • He noted the current presentation is long. He will suggest 30 min. with questions. 7:20 pm start. • He is expecting 60 to 70 people • He will be emailing the Garden club and community garden club Skidmore suggested limiting the presentation to 25 or 26 slides. Remove 27-31 #32, HWG will state the three chosen sites. 3.Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate Leven explained the current request for funds at Town Meeting will be $200,000. She is meeting with Nelson on Friday for the next phase discussion. She added the committee needs to consider if they want to keep working with HWG. Bennett explained his work with Santuit Pond involving a cranberry grower. He asked the committee if they would like to look at some of the information. (Some nitrogen assimilator) He explained it is like a rain garden and includes some interesting concepts. The committee is interested in hearing more Gallagher reported blooms in Walker's Pond and Upper Mill Pond. 4. Review corrected minutes from 6/25/12 Bennett made a Motion to accept the minutes as corrected for 6/25/12, Evans Second, All Aye, Vote 6-0, O'Reilly abstain Hughes, J made a Motion to adjourn, Evans Second, All Aye, Vote 7-0. The meeting ended at 6:00 pm Next Meeting: 8113/12 @ 4:30 Respectfull submitted, tRi ►alai r �_ - 1 Ai • Dave ne Cler Kelly Moore, Seni• •epartment Assistant Planning •C A ction Items, Post 7-30-12 Meeting Updated 8-3-12 CWPC 7-30-12.docx Page 3 of 4 mow ACTION ITEMS MEETING COMMENTS ESTIMATED STATUS DATE COMPLETION DATE Status'of Bridge Projects: Data Synthesis- GIS/Build-out, Ponds,Storm water Geo- location Horsley Witten Group(HWG)Phase II 10%design on three storm water retro fit projects, 7-30-12 Walker's Pond Per Ong HWG Breakwater Beach Town Hall RG Phase III Discussion with Nelson 8-3-12 Follow up from Leven Data Synthesis and GIS-Maps accessible from 6-11-12 Waiting for install Pending web site—Request from Taylor. date for People GIS Build out data review 7-9-12 Comments to Sue August meeting pa`s?it g by 8-6. 8-13 or 8-27 Questions to include in tax bills about water 1-9-12 Leven discuss TBD Pend mg usage.Ask HWG for ideas, online form? Etc. with Mark Nelson & Lisa Vitale Next community presentation, BCT Annual Meeting 8/6112 at BLL HWG to present. 7-23-12 Committee has 8-6-12 Pending 7-30-12 submitted Community comments from Meeting 7-30 meeting Cranberry Growers Association Contact CGA and ask if they might talk to the bog Fall 2011 Leven emailed fh,nding owners and find out when discharging into the Gates-Allen 8-3 ponds to take samples. Misc Participate in Lower Cape Expo 2013 8-13-12 Kleinfelder Pending Take advantage of early booking savings MS4 Compliance Update 2011 SEA/HWG September 2012 Pending Bennett asked for reports done by Peter Weiskel 2-27-12 Bennett spoke to Summer 2012 Pending regarding tri town treatment plant Weiskel. Report due out this summer CWPC 7-30-12.docx Page 4 of 4