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HomeMy Public PortalAboutComprehensive Water Planning -- 2012-08-13 Minutes ��HpllllUflBflUlU//////i Comprehensive Water Planning T ; Town of Brewster Committee el ;4 b= 2198 Main Street ¢ Brewster, Massachusetts 02631-1898 * (508) 896-3701 x1233 olliuiiiimoo FAX (508) 896-8089 Date Approved:9/24/12 Vote: TOWN OF BREWSTER MINUTES OF COMPREHENSIVE WATER PLANNING COMMITTEE (CWPC) Regular Meeting Monday, August 13, 2012 at 4:30 pm Brewster Town Office Building Chairman',Lem Skidmore convened the CWPC meeting at 4:35 pm in the Brewster Town Office Building with members,Joanne Hughes, John O'Reilly, Russell Schell, Bruce Evans, and Dan Ryan present. Absent: Pat Hughes, Elizabeth Taylor, Dave Bennett I Also Present: Sue Leven, Jim Gallagher, Paula Miller Recording or Taping Notification The Chair read"As required by the Open Meeting Law we are informing you that the Town will be audio taping this public meeting. In addition,if anyone else intends to audio tape this meeting they are required to inform the chair." AGENDA Supporti g Documents: 1.Citizen Forum 081312_ G Progress Report 2.8/6/12 Community Meeting Update 3.Discussion of Phase Ill 4.Discuss letter re:Lower Cape Expo 2013 5. Review minutes from 7/9/12,Review Action Items 6.Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate 1.CItizer_Vorum r i Gallagher announced that the ponds are full of algae. Walker's Pond has blue green algae and is beyond limits. Elbow Pond, Upper Mill Pond, and Lower Mill Pond are cloudy. Gallagher asked when the ponds will be reviewed. (Phase II or Phase Ill). Leven stated Phase II or beginning of Phase III. The latest progress report from HWG was distributed. The committee received a copy via email. Gallagher added that he needs to be able to respond to people when they call concerned about the ponds. Leven explained the ponds are part of SMAST vyork and the next phase of the IWRMP. She stated there will be an evaluation of alternatives from Phase II. Gallagher and Leven discussed further. 3 Schell asked if the committee should keep a list of items that should receive more attention instead of deferring them. He asked the group if they would consider this appropriate. Leven explained the pond work is not being deferred. She explained the phased approach. Schell referenced the 2009 report and noted the problem with ponds and excessive phosphorus input. Schell is confident that the phosphorus contribution of Title V systems to pond phosphorus budgets for some ponds, (including Elbow, Walkers, Long Ponds), while significant, will be found to be a small fraction of the total phosphorus input. Skidmore clarified the pond problem and suggested they discuss the scope of work when they discuss Phase III. 4 CWPC 8-13-12.docx Page 1 of 4 2.8!611,2'd ommun t Meetin• U'®date Leven stated there were 87 people at the meeting. Most of the committee attended. She noted the presentation and j discussion was good. She is waiting to hear when the video will be made available on-line. 3. Disduision of Phase Ill Leven met recently with Mark Nelson of HWG. She asked the committee if they would like to continue to work with HWG. Skidmore asked for a quick poll. Evans—Yes, Ryan—Yes, Schell, Yes, O'Reilly—Yes, Skidmore—Yes, Hughes, J—Yes, Gallagher—Yes, it they clean up the ponds. Leven—Yes. She added it has been a good experience, they have addressed questions, and been forward thinking. Hughes, J made a Motion to continue working with Horsley Witten Group (HWG) based on scope of work and pricing into Phase III of the IWRMP, Ryan Second, All Aye, Vote 6-0. Evans asked about continuing with HWG but questioned the pricing. Leven explained lained the committee needs to ask for more money at Town Meeting. O'Reilly asked about getting around the public procurement process and Leven explained further. She will follow up with Sumner and report back to the committee. Skidmore suggested that each member come up with a list of top issues to be addressed in Phase III and send the list to Leven. Leven re'iewed the list of topics discussed with Mark Nelson of HWG. 1) Forma review of the IWRMP and submission to DEP and CCC for approval. 2) Meeting TMDL's regarding wastewater evaluation/ranking wastewater alternatives, TMDL's in Pleasant Bay. Sewering to pull phosphorus out of the ponds. 3) Storm water— Kleinfelder is working with DPW. Issues that fall outside of MS4 compliance. I.e. private property Municipal water— DPW = 4)Water Supply—additional regulatory work re: lawn sizes and use of fertilizers. 5) Ponds/Surface water, education and instructional projects. A pond owner's handbook, including ways to protect the ponds and how to deal with what is going on now. Pond treatment. Schell mentioned the recent presentation to the BOS and questioned funding needs? He asked if the Board is content with a dollar amount or a scope of work. Skidmore stated he will ask for advice from Sumner. Leven explained there is a placeholder in the warrant for$200k. She will find dut the deadline date for changes. The deadline for articles to the BOS is 8-13-12. O'Reilly expressed concern that the number was too low. The committee discussed further. Leven explained the previous process and noted they don't have to itemize Phase III. Schell ex ressed concern about the Board of Selectmen and committee being on the same page. i Leven st ted they should have the basic scope and budget ready. It is a capital projects vote. Leven wi I let Sumner and Lewis know the committee will continue with HWG. Skidmore asked about which Boards and when the meetings will be held. Leven will send an email to the committee with notes from the meeting with Mark Nelson. Evans asked about desalination process to create fresh water and the committee discussed the topic further. Schell shared comments about the Monomoy lense, DEP, well#6 being a backup for well#4 and limits. 4, ©Iscue'letter re: Lower Cape Expo 2013 Leven announced there is an opportunity to get a table for next year at a reduced cost. O'Reilly asked the committee if they are interested in doing a seminar presentation next year. Leven ndted it is a good opportunity for public education. Topics could be rain gardens, dry wells, why ponds are green. Skidmore suggested HWG would do any presenting. 1 CWPC 8-13-12.docx Page 2 of 4 Leven suggested an interactive display at the table. The committee discussed participation. Gallagher stated it is good to spread the word and it is a local audience. O'Reilly made a Motion to participate in the Lower Cape Expo and to approve up to$350.00, Ryan Second, There was discussion. Hughes, J was concerned about where the money goes. Leven noted it is good PR. 5 Aye, Hughes, J abstains, Vote 5-0-1. 5. Review :minutes from 7/9/12, Review Action items O'Reilly made a Motion to accept the minutes as written, Ryan Second, All Aye, Vote 6-0 Action Items: The table has been updated below. • 6.Topicthe Chair did not reasonably anticipate Schell spoke about the algae blooms in the Stony Brook Ponds. He suggested that when samples are taken for the Board of Health',there should be coordination of other testing as well. He explained Secchi depth testing to the group. Y Leven noted the pond monitoring information could be graphed with the water testing information and compared. The committee discussed this idea further. Hughes, J, Gallagher, Skidmore, Leven and Schell. Skidmore questioned if they have all the data for the analysis. Gallaghei.suggested guidelines for sampling protocol recommendations in Phase III. Hughes, asked about how much regulation can be imposed by the Town when the State owns a large pond Gallagher explained that all other ponds (besides Long Pond) have a horsepower limit. Harwich and Brewster could get together end agree on a limit. Hughes, 0 expressed concern about animals, especially dogs swimming in the ponds and relieving themselves. There w s further discussion. Hughes, J explained a Board of Health jurisdiction against animals swimming in the ponds. It was no ed that this information could be added to a pond handbook Schell added that PWC's are not allowed at some ponds but people find a way to launch them anyway. He thinks it would be helpfu' if the towns required four cycle outboard motors. Two cycle motors use a lot of oil. Skidmore noted there is opportunity for regulatory improvements. • Gallagher asked about the EPA van parked a Town Hall. There were no comments. Paula Miller addressed the committee. She sent comments to Leven about adjusting the water table based on incorrect assumptions. She is trying to discuss further with Mark Nelson of HWG. She would like to resolve the issue. She finds it alarming and added there could be potential harmful impacts. • Skidmore stated to continue communicating with Leven. Leven can share comments with Mark Nelson. Miller read the information from paragraph#1 of the progress report. Leven will send the committee the email from Miller. It was noted this needs to be discussed further. Skidmorei will ask for further analysis. Hughes, ' suggested a meeting with Paula and Mark Nelson. Leven added she had not talked to Mark Nelson about the topic yet. O'Reilly made a Motion to adjourn, Hughes, J Second, All Aye, Vote 6-0. T - meeti . ended at 6:00 pm ex el s: 8/27/12 @ 4:30 •espe 4--ubmitted, %� � 4011 ,.._ , .11 D-fib r Clerk Kelly Moore, Se- or Department Assistant Planning CWPC 8-13-12.docx Page 3 of 4 CWPC Action Items, Post 8-13-12 Meeting 3 Up.ated 8-14-12 3 ACTION ITEMS MI:ImNG COMMIENTS EsTimA'1'I?D STATUS DATE COMPLI.'I'ION DAM 1 Statu of Bridge Projects: Data'Synthesis- GIS/B ild-out, Ponds,Storm water Geo- locati.n i orsley Witten Group(HWG)'Phase II Phase III top issues to be addressed by HWG 8-13-12 Comments due to Pending Leven tt 10%design on three storm water retro fit projects, 7-30-12 Walker's Pond 8-22-12 Pending j HWG Breakwater Beach Town Hall RG t Phase)III Discussion with Nelson 8-3-12 Leven to send 8-17-12 Pending comments to � committee Data ynthesis and GIS-Maps accessible from 6-11-12 Waiting for install Pending l web s to—Request from Taylor. date for People t. I GIS Build dut data review 7-9-12 Comments to Sue 8-27-12 Pending by 8-6. Questions to include in tax bills about water 1-9-12 Leven discuss TBD Pending usage Ask HWG for ideas, online form?Etc. with Mark Nelson &Lisa Vitale Cranberry Growers Association IConta t CGA and ask if they might talk to the bog Fall 2011 Leven emailed Leven following up Pending owner and find out when discharging into the Gates-Allen 8-3 ponds)—to take samples. 4 Misc: r � MS4 ompliance Update 2011 SEA/HWG September 2012 Pending Benn tt asked for reports done by Peter Weiskel 2-27-12 Bennett spoke to Summer 2012 Pending regarding tri town treatment plant Weiskel. Report due out this ti summer t 1 4 r 4 s I o 3 1 s ) CWPC 8-13+12.docx Page 4 of 4 { I