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Home My Public Portal AboutComprehensive Water Planning -- 2012-10-09 Minutes 1 I*pE 14:6?0,,,� Comprehensive Water Planning Cad ,ot E`DEA k,ht �/- _ Town of Brewster Committee 3(.1 'I'LL i ", J 2198 Main Street ° ","! '_ y Brewster, Massachusetts 02631-1898 L '�'`� , �' (508) 896-3701 x1233 �,i,f4iRre.%0.3�\\\\\\\\\ FAX (508) 896-8089 Date Approved: 12-10-12 a Vote: - TOWN OF BREWSTER MINUTES OF COMPREHENSIVE WATER PLANNING COMMITTEE (CWPC) .?Y'' Regular Meeting Tuesday, October 9, 2012 at 4:30 pm Brewster Town Office Building Chairman jLem Skidmore convened the CWPC meeting at 4:30 pm in the Brewster Town Office Building with members,Joanne Hughes, Russell S4hell, Elizabeth Taylor, Pat Hughes, Bruce Evans, and Dave Bennett present. Dan Ryan,John O'Reilly Absent: John O'Reilly Also Pres nt: Sue Leven, Jim Gallagher, Chris Miller, Ben DeRuyter(Finance Comm.) Recording or Taping Notification ' The Chair head"As required by the Open Meeting Law we are informing you that the Town will be audio taping this public meeting. In addition,if anyone else intends to record this meeting they are required to inform the chair." AGENDA 1.Citizen Forum Supportigg Documents: 2.Discuss 9-27-12 Community Meeting,Discuss content for the 100912_A urrent Action Items Community Meeting 10-23-12. 3.Discuss Town Meeting article re: land acquisition to preserve 82 acres, j Freeman's Way and Slough Road. 4.Bike path signage for dog owners 1 5.Review minutes from 8-27-12,Review current Action Items 6.Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate ( 1.Citixe Forum 1 None. 2. Discus 9-27-12 Community Meeting, Discuss content for the Community Meeting 10-23-12. I 9-27-12 Community Meeting: Hughes,;P stated that Mark Nelson from HWG did a great job with the presentation. BCT has requested the presentation. Leven acded there were two to three dozen attendees. Hughes,;P noted a resident from Elbow Pond clearly stated he was thinking of what he could do on his property. 10-23-12 Community Meeting: Leven e$plained Nelson will provide a Phase II wrap up, conclusions, build out update, and moving forward. Leven has requested a draft of the presentation by 10-17-12. HWG will be coming to the 10-22-12 meeting. The committee needs to review the presentation quickly. Skidmore agreed. Hughes,IP made a suggestion for the presentation. She thinks it would be valuable to include a case study, analyze sub water sh d, build out, water records, and nitrogen levels to demonstrate how the CWPC will use the information to guide the Town. CWPC 10-9-12.docx Page 1 of 5 3. Disets4 Town Meeting article re: land acquisition to preserve 82 acres, Freeman's Way and Slough Road Skidmore;provided the committee with a summary of the article#9. There are two properties totaling 82 acres. He suggested the committee make a statement and take a position. Hughes, i) asked if they are both Zone II's and Pleasant Bay water shed. She asked about nitrogen loading calculations. Leven &Taylor confirmed Freeman's Way,Yes. Off Slough Rd, No. Hughes, p made a Motion to support Article#9, Taylor Second. Discussion: Schell asked if the land was previously subdivided. Leven, Yes. Both approved subdivisions. Schell asked about the Finance Committee (FinComm)questions regarding the land being used for affordable housing. Leven talked to a FinComm member and explained this is not a great location for affordable housing. The Town would have to Ouy the land. The Town does own small lots spread out around Town that could be affordable housing. Slough Road is a keyhole shape. It will create an impressive piece of open space. The Town owns land in between. Leven agrees we need to develop affordable housing. The main point is to protect Zone II land since there is a TMDL to meet. Evans asked about the pricing and how it is set. Leven explained the pricing is$22k an acre, a low price. Bennett esked about clear title. Leven e�plained it is considered a bargain sale and the owner gets tax breaks. She explained the capital gain benefits. Taylor added there is a benefit of the tax write off. Bennett, Leven, and Taylor continued to discuss. Schell asked Leven as the Town Planner does she support affordable housing as infill? Leven explained yes, put affordable housing near shopping and other services. Slough Road is a remote area. Hughes, J and Hughes, P mentioned Belmont Park, previous affordable housing development in the Slough Road area. They disdussed further with Leven. Bennett supports mixing affordable housing within the general population. Hughes,jJ summarized bargain price, good place, Zone II protection, nitrogen reduction, and high priority parcels to open space. Taylor agreed. Schell asked if there is a condition of the bargain sale for the land to be for conservation. Miller explained for conservation and water protection. Cape Cod pathways go through the land. There would be restrictions on the parcels. Bennett asked if Orleans, Dennis, Harwich would contribute. Leven and Miller explained they would be asked. Hughes,;J asked if there could be a ball field. Hughes,IP provided some history for the committee regarding the Freeman's Way Fields and the Water Commission. Bob Mant and the Water Commission worked out an agreement. She was not sure if the land was purchased for water protection. There are strict conditions on the playing fields. All Aye, yme., 8-0. { 14. Bike Lath signage for dog owners Hughes, J explained she saw Jack Clark, the chair of the Bikeways Committee at the Board of Selectmen's meeting and thought it would be a great opportunity to discuss dog waste signs. Skidmore added the request has been sent to Nancy Ellis-Ice. Leven explained the Bikeways Committee is looking for money for signs with bags. They are $80 a piece. Miller added there are dog mitts at Spruce Hill and one other location. They should consider trash cans. Skidmore stated signs are the issue. Leven noted the Bikeways Committee meets at Ruggies in Harwich on Friday mornings. Someone from the committee could attend a meeting. Hughes,!J suggested the Bikeways Committee gets in touch with the Chamber of Commerce. (COC) CWPC 10-9-12.docx Page 2 of 5 Bennett stated the COC is communicating with the bikeways committee. The CWPC supports posting the signs on the bike path. 5. Reviewlminutes from 8-27-12, Review Action Items Taylor made a Motion to accept the 8-27-12 minutes as written, Hughes, J Second, All Aye, Vote 8-0. The comrfnittee reviewed the action items. See updated list, last page. The committee discussed: 10% Design on three storm water retro fit projects. (Breakw ter Beach) Hughes, J asked about planting grasses and available parking for the summer. Miller sail there could be more clearing for parking. We will need to repave. Hughes, P asked about using this land for a storm water function. Grasses, curbing, parking layout changes, new pavement Bennett asked about berms. Hughes, 0 asked about storm water contribution to erosion. A revetment for the new house was questioned. Miller stated the dune at the end of the parking lot will not last forever. He added the biggest issue is storm water and the HWG deign is very basic and for planning purposes. Storm water is the biggest issue, not coastal erosion. Bennett 4sked about status of the 10%design projects. Leven explained they are seeking grant money. Miller stated it is difficult to get storm water grants, especially for parking lots. If there were more closures for shell fishing they may qualify for grants. Hughes, jJ asked when they will receive the second draft of the build-out. Leven said in a few weeks. HWG is incorporating the correct census data. 2010—9,820 year round. Leven encouraged comments from the committee. Schell asked if there is a linkage between HWG determined units and nitrogen loading to Pleasant Bay. Leven stated this will be in the Phase II report, mid November. Bennett sked about build out, smart growth based on two regulations currently in effect. Is it the enforcement of existing regulations or modifications to regulations that would remove units to development? Leven stated it has more to do with the type of design and number of units. Outside of Zone II a cluster subdivision is a cluster. The difference between grid and cluster is size of lots and amount of open space. In Zone II and Pleasant Bay water shed the cluster is NRPD, which reduces the number of units. NRPD was discussed further. Grid or cluster in a Zone II. Lot sizes;in Zone II's were discussed. Leven explained once you have the base number, you have the option to do above and beyond items to increase density. (Advanced treatment, open space, etc.) Bennett Was concerned about smaller lots. Leven explained it does not mean unbuildable. 6.Topict,the Chair did not reasonably anticipate Taylor asked about the Kleinfelder map in the back hall way. She said the colors are too close together. Leven reminded the committee to review maps and give feedback. Hughes, ;P asked for an update on the final configuration of CWPC funding for Town Meeting. Skidmore explained they received unanimous support from FinCom. $130, Dec, June—Estimated $135k, July—Dec. Go to May Town Meeting and look at figures. Leven announced she is going to the MS4 funding workshop next Thursday in New Hampshire. Next Friday she is attending the Cape Cod Cranberry Growers Workshop. Water Use and Cranberries. 10-19-12 Schell explained that he attended the conservation meeting in Eastham regarding the Solar Bees. He explained they enhance;circulation in a pond. They don't do anything for phosphorus concentration. They are solar powered. Gallagher noted Barnstable and Falmouth are using them. CWPC 10-9-12.docx Page 3 of 5 Hughes, J made a Motion to adjourn, Hughes, P Second, All Aye, Vote 8-0. The meel,ing ended at 5:30 pm Next Meeting: 10/22/12 @ 4:30 Respectfully submitted, Arai -1 /1 AAMIPL/<—/- , Clerk Kelly Moo e, Senio epartment Assistant Planning CWPC 10-9-12.docx Page 4 of 5 3 CWPC Action Items, Post 10-9-12 Meeting Up.ated 10-10-12 AC'T'ION ITEMS M1.1:1IN(; COMMEN l'S ESTIMATED SfA'I'US 1)A'I'li C0MI'I,1:1 ION DATE Statu !of Bridge Projects: Data Synthesis- GIS/=wild-out, Ponds,Storm water Geo- locati-n orsley Witten Group(HWG)Phase II Community Meeting—Final presentation Phase II 10-9-12 Review Draft presentation Pending presentation and from HWG due 10- discuss 10-22. 17. 10%design on three storm water retro fit projects, 10-9-12 Concept designs Committee Pending HWG;-Walker's Pond received 9-6-12 discussed Breal+vater Beach Town seeking Breakwater Beach TownlHall RG grant money Data Synthesis and GIS-Maps accessible from 9-10-12 Waiting for install Waiting for funding Pending web she—Request from Taylor. date for People GIS Build •ut Data Review 10-9-12 Maps available, HWG has census Pending HWG fine tuning data, part of the data Nov. Phase II final rpt. Questions to include in tax bills about water 1-9-12 Leven discuss TBD Pending usage.Ask HWG for ideas,online form?Etc. with Mark Nelson &Lisa Vitale Gran erry Growers Association Contact CGA and ask if they might talk to the bog Fall 2011 Leven emailed Leven following up Pending owners and find out when discharging into the Gates-Allen 8-3 ponds—to take samples. Misc: MS4 ompliance Update 2011 SEA/HWG Meeting with Pending Kleinfelder 9/24 Benn tt asked for reports done by Peter Weiskel 2-27-12 Not ready until Pending regarding tri town treatment plant early 2013 Follovt,up on the ponds testing process 9-10-12 Hughes,J 10-22-12 Pending Hughes,J to request final report from the State Ed Eithner Pond Study 9-24-12 Leven Ponds study draft Pending due in few weeks. Final version Nov. Signs 10-9-12 Leven Committee has Done "Please pick up after your pet" followed up with Nancy Ellis Ice and ■ supports signs on bike path. How many IA systems are in the Pleasant Bay 9-24-12 Bennett to send Pending watershed&cranberry bog information info to Leven for committee/HWG 1 CWPC 10-9.12.docx Page 5 of 5