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O o y Town of Brewster Committee 3 i�ti,��.r, a= 2198 Main Street °r — "' _i y` Brewster, Massachusetts 02631-1898 (508) 896-3701 x1233 �y��IflIIRIIIlIRP 111\\\\\\\\��\\\\\ FAX (508) 896-8089 Date Approved:2-11-13 c�, Vote:8-0 �J TOWN OF BREWSTER MINUTES OF COMPREHENSIVE WATER PLANNING COMMITTEE (CWPC) Regular Meeting Monday, December 10, 2012 at 4:30 pm Brewster Town Office Building Chairman Lem Skidmore convened the CWPC meeting at 4:30 pm in the Brewster Town Office Building with members, Pat Hughes, Russell Schell,Joanne Hughes,John O'Reilly, Dan Ryan,and Bruce Evans present.[7] Absent: Elizabeth Taylor, Dave Bennett Also Present:Town Planner,Sue Leven AGENDA Conservation Administrator,Jim Gallagher 1.Citizen Forum Natural Resources Director,Chris Miller 2,Discuss HWG Phase II Report Finance Committee Liaison,Ben DeRuyter Health Director,Nancy Ellis-Ice 3.Review minutes from 10-9-12,Review current Action Items Residents: Paula Miller,Peter Johnson(BCT) 4.Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate Recording or Taping Notification The Chair read"As required by the Open Meeting Law we are informing you that the Town will be audio taping this public meeting. In P,( addition,if anyone else intends to record this meeting they are required to inform the chair." Supporting Documents: 121012_A Comments from the CWPC on the Horsley Witten Phase II Report 121012_B CWPC Action Items 11-28-12 :1 Clflxel Forum f {. Paula Miller shared her comments regarding the HWG Phase II Report. She was concerned about the lines of watersheds on the maps. She asked for the committee to remember these lines don't really exist on the ground. She expressed concern about models. She stated flow paths don't exist as they do on the maps. She was concerned about the sea level rise numbers and stated the land acquisition vs. land use was being downplayed. She liked the recommendations for land use and land planning. Leven acknowledged she has a copy of Paula's comments. 14.Discuss HWG Phase H Report Leven received comments from the committee and distributed them via email and hard copy. Skidmore suggested the committee accept the grammatical corrections. The group reviewed the list. Hughes, P suggested sharing overall comments about the draft report. =y' Leven noted the general comments at the end of the document. Skidmore asked for general comments. CWPC 12-10-12.docx Page 1 of 4 '?r General Comments: Committee Member Comments Hughes, P Important phase, frames what the group does in Phase III, HWG pulled in more of the build out information. She wants to see the final build out information by watershed included. (Leven confirmed they are working on it) Impressed about the amount of work to do in Phase III. O'Reilly Happy with the report, what he expected Schell Surprised and disappointed (fig. 7 and fig 8) septic, leaching fields, water tables, no recommendation to pursue it further. The quality of Title V systems are threatened by k these effects. He was looking for recommendations. 1 Evans Good report. They mentioned the CCC regional wastewater plan briefly and if it would impact Brewster. He was concerned about addressing residents'fears regarding costs. Private wells (300) are tested on a voluntary basis. Is this a good thing or should this change?This was not addressed. Ryan Enjoyed the report, well done, and covered everything presented at public meetings. He appreciated the layout of the federal, state and water department information. Hughes, J Well written. CCC wastewater plan is an ongoing plan. Pleasant Bay—a plan for people who have onsite septic systems, certain age, go into an IA?Who will be responsible? 4 Home owner or Town? Skidmore Concurs with committee, well done report. Leven will share comments. HWG will get a copy of the minutes and comments from the committee. He asked the audience for comments. g Miller Pleased with report f Gallagher Easy to follow, good for the general public(not a heavy read) Hughes, P Page#93, In depth study of the ponds but not in the recommendations Continued Discussion Miller addressed that we won't have to sewer. (Perhaps not the whole town.) Skidmore clarified for the group-- no centralized town wide sewer system. r 1 Johnson stated we are served by the same aquifer as the other towns around us. A regional approach should be 4 supported. Brewster Conservation Trust(BCT) has sought out neighboring town trusts to protect land over the Brewster border. He stated we should support the commission. 1 Schell asked about collaborating with Dennis and Orleans for protection of their watersheds. Johnson explained the Town and the Trust have collaborated. They have done it twice with Dennis and Orleans. He explained further and shared an example. 1 Leven added what the Cape Cod Commission (CCC) and other groups are talking about in terms of regionalization— Harwich/Chatham example. Opportunities exist for neighboring towns.Water Protection Collaboration asked Leven to go before the BOS to get recommendations for priorities of regional work. The BOS sent a statement to the group. They stated that they did not support wastewater solutions with non neighboring towns. , Skidmore asked the committee if they want to go through the comments individually. The committee discussed process. Leven suggested reviewing by page. i ry CWPC 12-10-12.docx Page 2 of 4 ti 3 Comments Comments Pa,e#not Re•ort •a.e# ' Page Page/Paragraph Line Member Comment 1 of 8 ES-1 Wastewater Hughes, J Hughes, J did not understand the comment. Dave Bennett's comment, Nelson will address 1 Last Last Schell Clarify the extent of wastewater management in Brewster's portion of the Pleasant Bay Watershed— related to Schell's question on comments page#3. K 2 ES-4 Keyhole hanger Gallagher It was never produced. 3&4 28 Table and Schell Discussion of N Loading: Some confusion in this paragraph 3 discussion between Brewster's PB watershed area.... Commercial or industrial uses....He asked about zoning measures for development. He was concerned for that section of Brewster. Hughes, P Hughes, P was concerned about the Pleasant Bay water shed. NRPD is a positive step. She believes more explanation required. (In response to comment above) 3 17-5 Wetlands Gallagher Wetlands...what is the question?Taylor comment. Definition of a wetland. Coastal banks? Dunes? s 4 29 Table D-5 Hughes, P *TMDL, Brewster has no responsibility comments. Herring River MEP Report. Final report should go to I Harwich. Hughes, P, Chris Miller, Leven discussed. 4 34-38 D-6, D-7 P. Miller Submit to Tom Cambarerri, CCC (Leven, has a copy) 4 Gallagher Question about blue line. What does that mean? 1 6 68 Table F-1 Hughes, P Lower case 6 87 3-4 Schell River Herring. Two species- Herring and Blue-black. Technically a difference. Schell and Hughes, P discussed further. 7 93 3 Same on page 93. 3 } 7 98 O'Reilly BOH regulation RE transfer. Asking for a regulation? Bennett comment. Clarification required. 7 95 181 set bullets Schell Supports adding category 7 108 Granite curbs Taylor Leven explained further. Taylor likes invisible curb idea. Hughes, J does not understand the comment. Issue for cyclists. 8 App D-1 Flow chart Hughes, P Hughes, P asked what people thought about the flow chart. Leven thought it was hard to follow. Hughes stated it was interesting but confusing. k Hughes, J concerned about sea level rise numbers. Are they using the most current numbers? Paragraph bottom of Page#27—Confusing statement (*hard to hear because of no microphone in audience area) Paula Miller stated they should not use the word "home" instead of houses or residential units. "homes to be upgraded" Advanced or alternative nitrogen treatment? Do they mean advanced? IA—Innovative alternative... *Schell—CDM presentation, Harwich Town Hall, Brewster not making any significant nitrogen contribution. Leven agreed. They talked about a presentation by CDM. Leven recommended the table top exercise. Appendix E. Change in formatting comment—Hughes, J. did not find the report hard to follow but prefers tabs and page numbers with t the sections included. 1 I ,R Oie*minutes from 10-9-12,Review current Action items 1 a Moore received a text edit from Gallagher via email. Hughes, P made a Motion to accept the 10-9-12 minutes as amended, Ryan Second, All Aye, yo j2 7-0 ) Current Action Items: See last page for an update. Leven will talk to Lisa Vitale and will call Cranberry Growers. t CWPC 12-10-12.docx Page 3 of 4 Pond Study—Update, Leven talked to Eichner. Still waiting for one set of data. 1:4.Tapic9 the Chair did not reasonably anticipate f 12/18/12 meeting will be the second December meeting. Room A, 9:30 am,(Hughes, P conf.call) Hughes P made a Motion to adjourn, Hughes, J Second, All Aye, Vote 7-0. The meeting ended at 6:00 pm. Next Meeting: 12/18112 @ 9:30 am with HWG. (1/14/13 is first meeting in 2013) Respectfully s .miffed, Pr liA glOr44 ) •D ,: , erk Kelly Moore, SeniiDept. Assistant, Planning ' CWPC Action Items, Post 12-10-12 Meeting Updated 12-12-12 A(:I'ION ITGIVIS MITI?'I'ING (OMMI:N'I S I:SI'MIA'I I:I) SI'A"I US I)A'I'I, (OMI'I.li'I'ION OA'I I. Status of Bridge Projects: Data Synthesis- GIS/Build-out, Ponds,Storm water Geo- location I Horsley Witten Group(HWG) Phase II 1 10%design on three storm water retro fit projects, 10-9-12 Concept designs Committee Ongoing HWG-Walker's Pond received 9-6-12 discussed Breakwater Beach Town seeking Breakwater Beach z Town Hall RG grant money Data Synthesis and GIS-Maps accessible from 9-10-12 Waiting for install Waiting for IT Pending web site—Request from Taylor. date for People GIS Phase II Final Report Review 12-10-12 Committee Committee meeting Pending lk reviewing with HWG 12-18 Questions to include in tax bills about water 1-9-12 Leven to discuss TBD Pending 1 usage.Ask HWG for ideas,online form?Etc. with Mark Nelson *Local Comprehensive plan link too... &Lisa Vitale Cranberry Growers Association 1 Contact CGA and ask if they might talk to the bog 12-10-12 Leven will call CCCGA would like Pending 1 owners and find out when discharging into the them to discuss another 1 ponds—to take samples. approach Misc: ■ MS4 Compliance Update 2011 Kleinfelder/HWG Work ongoing Ongoing Bennett asked for reports done by Peter Weiskel 2-27-12 Not ready until Pending regarding tri town treatment plant early 2013 I Follow up on the ponds testing process 9-10-12 Hughes,J 12-31-12 Pending 1 Hughes,J to request final report from the State Ed Eichner Pond Study 12-10-12 Leven Ed Eichner is Pending waiting for one set of data. How many IA systems are in the Pleasant Bay 9-24-12 Bennett to send Pending water shed&cranberry bog information info to Leven for committee/HWG CWPC 12-10-12.docx Page 4 of 4