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NOVEMBER 9, 2000
An Agenda Meeting of the Mayor and Council of the Borough of
Carteret preceding the Regular Meeting of November 14, 2000 was
held on November 9, 2000, 7:00 P.M., 230 Roosevelt Avenue,
Carteret, New Jersey.
The føllowing were noted present:
Mayor James Failace
Councilmembers Crilley
" Fazekas
" O'Brien
" Quinones
" Santoro
" Sohayda
Statement of Meeting Notice was mailed to the Home News
Tribune, The Star Ledger and posted on the bulletin board on
November 3,2000.
Noteó absent was Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin.
Also noted present was Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack
To Address Governing Body: Eric Betz, P .E.
TOWN CENTER REVITALIZATION - #99-21
Marvec Construction is almost complete with the site
improvements. The contractor has received the plaques and they
are awaiting fabrication and delivery of the granite monuments.
For review is change order #3 which is valued at $18,326.58. This
change includes payment for milling and paving work along
Blanchard Street, payment for two bronze plaques, pro-Guard
fabric to prevent cracks in the concrete subbase for Pershing
Avenue. The value of the revised Contract would equal
$431,331.58.
VETERANS FIELD LIGHTING PROJECT - #00-08
Since they have received approval for the site plan approval of the
Veterans Lighting Project, Killam has been progressing with the
final design.
POLICE HEADQUARTERS - gas heat conversion #00-10
The mechanical design consultant has provided the specs and
contract drawings for the conversion. A temporary heating oil
storage tank continues to serve the building during the interim.
AGENDA MEETING
NOTED PRESENT
STATEMENT OF
MEETING NOTICE
NOTED ABSENT
BOROUGH ATTORNEY
C. COUGHLIN
ERIC BETZ, P.E.
REVITALIZATION OF
TOWN CENTER
VETERANS FIELD
LIGHTING PROJECT
POLICE DEPT.
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HEALTH DEPT.
HANDICAPPED
RAMP
NOTED PRESENT=
BOROUGH ATTORNEY
C. COUGHLIN
MASONARY WALL
AT POLICE DEPT.
WATER COMPANY
ABOVE GROUND STORAGE
TANK & FUEL
MANAGEMENT SYSTEM
WASHINGTON AVE.
CURB & SIDEWALK
IMPROVEMENT
DISCUSSION
CARTERET HEALTH DEPARTMENT - Handicapped Access
Ramp
They have coordinated with Lauro Architects and T. Neibert in
regard to the installment of the handicap ramp to provide ADA
compliant access to the Health Department Office. The
construction cost is estimated between $10,000 - $14,000, which is
below the public bid threshold. Lauro Architects has requ,e~ted a
budget of $1,800 for preparation of construction documents. They
recommend that the Borough authorize Lauro Architect in the
amount if$2,700.
At approximately 7:12 P.M. Borough Attorney Craig CO'lghlin
was noted present.
POLICE STATION MASONARY WALL -As-Built Drawing
Lauro Architects is providing an as-built drawing for the masonry
wall in the rear of the Police Station to A. Neibert's office for
review and the Borough file.
MIDDLESEX WATER COMPANY - RENEW 2000 Project
They have received plans depicting the location of all excavations
performed under the Water Company's Renew 2000 Project. They
will coordinate with Ted Surick and assist the Borough in
inspecting the pavement restoration work completed under the
Renewal. A punch list shall be prepared in conjection with the
Road Department and forwarded to the MWC for corrective
measures.
PUBLIC WORKS- ABOVE GROUND STORAGE TANK &
FUEL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM - Contract #99-20
The above ground tank and fuel management system sho\l}d be
completed by mid-December including the training of the
Borough's employees.
WASHINGTON AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT-Curb and
Sidewalk Improvements
The Director of Community Development & UEZ, J. Riggio
requested a site investigation and cost estimate for the proposed
sidewalk and curb improvement.
Councilmember Santoro asked if there was a problem with that
road.
Eric Betz, P.E. replied yes. There was a problem with the pavers
the first time and ..
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Councilmember Santoro asked why do they have to pave if there
was a (inaudible).
Eric Betz replied due to the (inaudible) concrete, which was
unforeseen. He then spoke again and was inaudible.
Mayor Failace said he liked that they moved the flag poles apart.
The Mayor then asked if they were doing anything with lighting
with the other two poles? He said he knew there were three lights
there but. . .
Eric Betz said the lights were not installed yet and PSE&G is
installing site lighting.
Councilmember Crilley asked what the original bid amount was?
Eric Betz replied but was inaudible.
Councilmember Santoro asked when was the estimated completion
time?
Eric Betz replied and was inaudible.
SEWER FACILITIES:
Sabo Street Pump Station Replacement & Sanitary Sewer System
Improvements - #99-13
Ace Manzo Inc, & D. Manzo & Son, Inc. are progressing on
schedule with the work under contract. They have completed the
generator!control building and some site grading, electrical and
plu.mbing work.
SANITARY SEWER MANHOLE REHABILITATION PHASE I
- Contract #99-19
Vangelis construction is progressing with the Borough's
deteriorated sanitary manholes. The work should be completed by
mid-December.
ILLEGAL CONNECTION IDENTIFICATION & III
REDUCTION
They have been continuing the investigation work and anticipate
completing a summary report for the Borough and the NJDEP by
the year's end. They have confirmed 56 illegal connections of
sanitary laterals into the storm sewer system. They have completed
a preliminary evaluation if the work required separating the illegal
connections. As part of the work authorized under Change Order
#1, Contract #00-06 and assistance from the Sewer Department
they will investigate 14 additional suspect illegal connections.
COMMENTS
SEWER FACILITIES
REHABILITATION OF
SANITARY SEWER
MANHOLE- PHASE I
ILLEGAL CONNECTI06
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PUMP STATION
EVALUATION FOR
HARRISON AVE.
Harrison Avenue Pu.mp Station Evaluation
They have submitted a field inspection of the station and are
currently in the process of preparing the evaluation report for the
Borough's review and will be presented at the next Agenda
Meeting.
IMPROVEMENTS TO
DOROTHY ST.
PUMP STATION
Improvements to the Dorothy Street Pump Station - Contract 00-
05
Bids were received for the above referenced project. The lowest
bid received was $262,200, which is $87,800 below the Engineer's
construction estimate of $350,000. They are in the process of
reviewing the bid packages and have requested more information
from the lowest bidder.
ROAD PROJECTS
ROAD PROJECTS:
NJDOT Trust Fund FY2001
During a meeting with the NJDOT Local Aid Office they¡were
informed that Carteret has been awarded two Grants totaling
$360,000 The first project is the Carteret Avenue Pedestrian Route
Improvements in the amount of $150,000. The second project
awarded is the Improvement to Milik Street in the amount of
$210,000. This is the fourth year that Killam assisted the Borough
in receiving funding under the Trust Fund Program. Official
notification has been mailed by the NJDOP.
FEDERAL GRANT
INDUSTRIAL ROAD
EXTENSION
Industrial Road Extension Project - Federal Grant
They are in the process of preparing the revised alignment plan for
the use by the Borough in discussions with Conrail the Federally
Highway Administration. It will be forwarded to the Borough for
review.
NJ TURNPIKE
EXIT 12
New Jersey Turnpike Authority - Exit 12/l2A Study
Representatives from the office and the EKA Associates attended a
meeting with NJT A and Middlesex County Planning Department
to discuss the Borough's development or redevelopment potential
were not accurately reflected as part of the NJT A study preformed
by Wilbur Smith Associates.
Councilmember Santoro said not too long ago we had another
change against us for $86,000.00. What was our original budget?
Eric Betz responded that it was $305,000.00 for the continuation of
the (inaudible).
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Councilmember Santoro asked how much would that leave them.
For the 2001 budget, is it a million dollars for the projected
budget?
Eric Betz replied yes.
Councilmember Santoro said he was asking them to approve this
against that..
COMMENTS
Eric Betz replied that was all part ofthe 2000 program.
Councilmember Santoro asked Eric if he would bring their old
sheets when he came with (inaudible) so we know what it is
getting charged against because there are so many sewer fees.
Mayor Failace said the breakdown of what the (inaudible) are
going against.
Councilmember Crilley asked how they can approve something
that is estimated at $600,000 without options on how to pay for it
and what are those options?
Eric Betz replied that the money from the Federal Govemment ..
Coun.:ilmember Santoro said they didn't have that.
Eric Betz said that would be one source and the other would be to
allocate what they spoke about, the Hill District Project.
Councilmember Santoro said until they start to do that how can we
ever charge ..,
Eric Betz said the Ordinance is set up for one point four million
dollars for sewer work.
Councilmember Santoro asked why they don't we file against the
clean water for this? They said by spring we would be able to have
confirmation on that.
Eric Betz said they would not get the money for two years.
Councilmember Santoro said at least they would know they were
getting the money to spend it on the risk of not knowing.
Councilmember Crilley asked if the use of the Bond Ordinance
specific. In other words when we passed the Bond Ordinance we
had a break down. Is it specific that we use it for those functions
and those jobs?
Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack said if it is specific in
the Ordinance than it is specific for that job unless we amend the
Ordinance by (inaudible).
Councilmember Santoro said until we know where the money is,
how are we going to (inaudible).
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DISCUSSION
(CONTINUED)
Councilmember Crilley said that everything is priority and this is
something that the DEP has told us that we have to correct as soon
as possible. It might be a case where we might have to reprioritize
what is in that Ordinance to cover.
Councilmember Santoro said maybe they can come forward with
that.
Mayor Failace said they have to continue on this project. How
long are we in advance on the fine from the DEP?
Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack replied six month,,,.
Councilmember Crilley said he thought they should have a finance
plan in place.
Mayor Failace said he IS supposed to be hearing from the 1.5
million.
Councilmember Santoro said they have to come up with something
to explain how we are doing this.
Eric Betz spoke and was inaudible.
Councilmember Santoro said they have to come up with something
to explain how we are doing this.
Eric Betz said those are the options for the grants..
Councilmember Santoro said when they start using the money and
if anything else comes up can use that money.
Councilmember Quinones spoke but was inaudible.
Councilmember Santoro said when you start using that money and
if anything else comes up, we'd use that money.
Councilmember Quinones said if they prioritize (inaudible).
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Mayor Failace said that is what happens with sewers.
Councilmember Crilley asked how far can they go without the
funds being covered?
Eric Betz said with the money for the design and the (inaudible) is
included in the (inaudible). It is included under 305. It is six
hundred thousand dollars for construction but we don't have it
specifically allocated for either some of the projects that are in
there. We couldn't put a figure on it because we didn't know you
have 56 connections.
Mayor Failace said every time they do it more connections come
up that need to be done. This is going to be an ongoing thing and
by the time we finish.. We've got to continue the proj ect because if
we don't the DEP is going to come down on us, and that is the
bottom line. Right now we can't look any further than the DEP
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right now. Hopefully we will have 5.1 million dollars when they
get the grant to continue these projects.
At this point Eric Betz continued his report. He said Killiam and
Associates and EKA Associates attended a meeting with the
Turnpike Authority
Councilmember Crilley said something has to be done, there is a
public safety issue going on, that has been going on and it is not
the Turnpikes fault. That traffic light at the bottom has to be
readjusted so that it allows the traffic to (inaudible). He said he
recently witnesses three near accidents when sitting on the
shoulder of the road waiting to get off of the Turnpike. There was
no problem getting off the Turnpike, it was the light that was the
problem.
Mayor Failace asked Councilmember Crilley what time was he by
the Turnpike because the were doing the fiber optics on the other
side of the bridge.
Councilmember Crilley said it was the light. They need to add
another twenty to thirty seconds to that light coming off the
Turnpike and traffic will flow much better. He said he wanted
somebody there to take a look at that.
Eric Betz said that is a County issue so we'll have to speak to
them.
Councilmember Crilley said he understood that and it is a public
safety issue and needs to be addressed immediately.
Councilmember Santoro asked why they have been waiting six
months in reference to the structural problems at the Firehouse.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin replied that he didn't have those
documents for six months. He said he reviewed them and he faxed
him a copy of the resolution that was adopted in June. The
documents haven't been around for two months.
Councilmember Santoro asked the Business Administrator if he
had the bid documents.
Business Administrator Nicholas Goldack said they have not had
the bid documents for two months.
Councilmember Crilley asked what project they were discussing.
Councilmember Santoro replied the Firehouse, the Resolution that
was done back in June.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said the letter was dated
October 9th, 2000.
Councilmember Santoro said they did a call to find out what the
status was.
ENGINEER'S
REPORT
CONTINUED
DISCUSSION
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ORDINANCES-
PUBLIC HEARING
RESOLUTIONS
COMMUNICATIONS
REPORTS
MATTERS FOR
DISCUSSION
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said that was the only copy he
has ever had.
Councilmember Santoro spoke but was inaudible.
Mayor Failace asked if anyone else had anything for Eric Betz.
Councilmember Santoro said she had a question for closed session.
The Mayor asked if it was in reference to what we received in the
mail from Serenity?
Councilmember Santoro said yes and other things.
ORDINANCES: Public Hearing-
1. #00-50 Amending Ordinance #89-18, Re: Health Insurance
Benefits.
RESOLUTIONS:
1. Directing the Issuance of Various Raffle Licenses.
2. Refund of Tax and Sewer Fee Overpayments.
3. Authorizing Contractors to Perform Rehabilitation of Homes
Pursuant to COAH Regulations.
4. Providing for the Transfer of Surplus Funds.
5. Appointing Public Safety Telecommunicator Trainee.
6. Authorizing Community Development Department Request
for Funding for the Washington Ave. Business District
Improvement.
7. Award of Bid - Improvement to Dorothy Street Pump Station.
8. Appointing Theodore Kaskiw - Temporary Sub-code Official.
9. Authorizing Bids - Evidence Room Storage System.
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COMMUNICATIONS:
1. Township of Old Bridge Resolution opposing A-2l88
eliminating municipal rent control.
REPORTS:
1. Inspection of Buildings - October 2000.
2. Sewage Collection - October 2000.
MATTERS FOR DISCUSSION:
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1. NJ Department of Personnel - a) Certification of Eligibles for
Appointment,
Re: Makwinski vs. Officer. Date of Disposition: 4-26-01.
b) Certification of Eligibles for Appointruent - Truck Driver.
Councilmember Santoro asked what was the first one.
Municipal Clerk Kathleen Barney replied that was just to let you
know that it came in. She said she didn't know if they were in the
proce,s of interviewing.
Councilmember Crilley asked if they have a new list.
The Municipal Clerk replied yes.
councilmember Crilley asked that a copy be put in their mailbox.
2. Deirdre Hartman, Esq. - Request for additional appropriation,
Re: Makwinski vs. Borough.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said that they have spoken
together and he had some questions with regard to some of the
items and she is going to get back to me.
3. John Riggio - Request for Change Order, $18,326.58 - Re:
Town Center Project.
4. Mayor Failace - a) Hamal Associates, Inc. - Traffic Study
Services.
b) Hospitalization - Employee Compensation Incentive.
Mayor Failace said one is the traffic study and we have discussed
this before. We need to have a traffic study done, by us, for
Carteret. He said he thought they have the information. He asked if
everyone had a copy of the information. The Mayor said he
thought it should be put on, $13,000.00. He said he thought it was
necessary to move forward on this because we get traffic studies
done all over the place and he doesn't agree with half of them.
Also, the Planning Board did a traffic study on our part. Quite
hone~tly, all that did was agree with the developer or the person
who wanted to do the work. He said he thought what they need to
have in their hands is ourselves and planning and zoning. He said
he thought it was imperative that they put this on.
Councilmember Fazekas asked if the Planning and Zoning Board
are requesting this.
Mayor Failace replied no, he requested it.
Councilmember Santoro asked where they would do the traffic
study.
Mayor Failace replied for Industrial Road and a whole bunch of
different locations. He thought copies were given out to the
Coundl the last time it was brought up about a month ago. He then
said he has been thinking of a way to save the Borough some
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MATTERS FOR
DISCUSSION
CONTINUED
COMMENTS
COMMENTS
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DISCUSSION
money by allowing employees to opt not to take insurance if in fact
they are insured by their spouse and by compensating them for X
amount of dollars. Right now insurance is costing us five to single
to twelve thousand eight.
Councilmember Santoro asked what kind of incentive are you
giving the employees.
Mayor Failace said 25% of the cost of the policy.
Councilmember Santoro asked if that was average that was being
offered to other towns.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said they should discuss some
of this in closed session because we may have to talk to a union
representative.
Mayor Failace said they should discuss the rest of this in closed
session as far as compensation and possibly offer this to the
Borough Employees. The Mayor then asked Councilmember
Fazekas if he had any business to be added.
Councilmember Fazekas replied no, not at this time.
Councilmember Santoro addressed the Business Administrator
saying that he gave her a letter. She asked him if he wanted every
one to have a copy?
Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack replied that he already
gave them all a copy.
Councilmember Santoro then said they should have a discussion of
that at the next Agenda Meeting.
Councilmember Crilley asked when that went in their mailboxes.
Business Administrator said it was handed out at the Council
Meeting.
Mayor Failace said it was handed to us at the last Council Meeting.
Councilmember Santoro said she Freeholder Polos called her and
November 30th is going to be that meeting for the Freeholders
Meeting and action will be taken at that meeting. The Trash Train
is being introduced that night and the actual hearing is November
30th.
Councilmember Quinones asked where?
Mayor Failace replied at the Union County Freeholders, we'll find
it.
Councilmember Crilley said he thought it was going to be held at
the Sewer Treatment Plant.
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Mayor Failace replied no that was the night before. He said he
went, Councilmember Santoro, Stan and Jimmy and a nu.mber of
citizens went from Linden and Rahway. While we have it up we
might as well talk about it. The Mayor said the utility authority,
Union County, was quite ambivalent about it. They could have
cared less about our needs or the needs of anybody else. It was a
done deal; they already had a piece of paper. They ran that meeting
like it was Nazi Germany, they give you five minutes, no
discussion, no debate and the bottom line is that it passed and is
going .. He said he spoke with Mayor O'Brien of Metuchen and
other Mayors in the surrounding areas. We are going to come up
with some kind of action plan and what we have to do to stop this.
He said he still believes they can stop this but he wants to tell them
when the councilmen from Linden spoke and they said that it was
basically great for Linden. There is no danger to Linden. The
bottom line is it is going to be very dangerous and there is going to
be some real problems with it. Again he said he spoke to Mayor
O'Brien and they are going to get together along with other
Mayors and see if we can move forward with this. We definitely
have to do something with this.
Councilmember O'Brien asked if the people of Linden were
against it.
The Mayor replied that there are a few people who are right near
the rail road tracts and from the facility they are 1.9 miles away.
Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack said the people up the
Hill are closer.
DISCUSSION
CONTINUED
Councilmember Sohayda said he had something to say about the
lights on the bridge. He said the Mayor sent him a memo to handle
that. It was supposed to be repaired and obviously they are not.
Mayor Failace said they were there the other day but they were not
working on the bridge.
Councilmember Sohayda said he spoke to Mr. DeSantis, Mary,
Kim DeLuca and John. He said a former Councilmember told him
that there is an agreement that they re supposed to be aware of. It
wasdgned between the Turnpike, the County and the Town of
Carteret some years ago. He asked the Mayor if he was familiar
with this agreement.
Mayor Failace replied yes, only on the bridge, the wooden poles
are not ours, he just them fixed.
Councilmember Sohayda said K&J Electric are the only ones who
will repair them, and they are on vacation for two more weeks.
Mayor Failace said there is something more wrong with those
lights than just the bulb because they come on and they go off. He
said a week and a half ago they were all on, then they went out and
the other night there were two on. There has to be something more
to it.
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Councilmember Quinones spoke about the Ordinance with the
part-time benefits and amending that was for twenty hours. She
asked the Borough Attorney if that was going to be on Tuesday's
meeting?
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin replied yes.
COMMENTS &
DISCUSSION
Councilmember Quinones said the other thing she wanted to
propose is, and she mentioned this awhile back, she said she would
like an Ordinance drafted for Tuesdays meeting eliminating the
residency requirements for Borough workers. She said there have
been too many problems associated with that, major problems with
the whole County. She said she didn't know who they could
selectively inforce who lives in Carteret and who doesn't. It is
becoming a problem and she thinks it could turn into litigation at
some point so she is going to propose that they eliminate it
entirely. She addressed Councilmember Crilley and said he'd been
very vocal against this but she asked that he reconsider his position
because she does not see how they can enforce it on a case by case
basis. She said she did not think it was far particularly because
policeman and fireman do not have to live in town after a certain
time period. She said she knew their position and the strong
feelings they have but she would ask them to reconsider. She then
told the Borough Attorney that she wanted the Ordinance on for
Tuesday.
Councilmember Santoro asked if they could see what was being
put together before they vote on it.
Councilmember Quinones said she was proposmg that they
eliminate it entirely.
Councilmember Santoro asked if there was any preference to
people living in Carteret to be hired. Is that what you are
proposing?
councilmember Quinones replied that was what she was
proposmg.
Mayor Failace said he didn't know that said that. There IS no
preference and what we are saying is ..
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Councilmember Santoro said it was mentioned about policemen
and firemen and their preference is that they have to reside in
Carteret.
Councilmember Quinones said for a year.
Councilmember Santoro addressed Councilwoman Quinones and
said that (inaudible) for a year...
Councilmember Quinones asked how many of them don't live in
Carteret. If they don't have to live here why do we require that
everyone else lives in Carteret.
Councilmember Santoro said they will have the same requirements
as the police and firemen.
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Councilmember Quinones said she would be willing to live with
that.
Councilmember Santoro said they have waited this long but you
can't let the Borough Attorney put something together for them to
see
Councilmember Quinones said she has mentioned this several
times and she doesn't know why.. If you need to read ahead of
time ,he will have it faxed to them if it is that important. If you
want to change it you can have a day or two to review it and she
thinks that is more than ample time and if you don't want to
support it you don't have to.
councilmember Santoro asked what she was proposing that the
Borough Attorney write up now?
Councilmember Quinones replied that she thought it was pretty
simple, to eliminate the residency requirements if you and the
majority of the Council feels that a year time limit is adequate
given that it is consistence with what fireman and policeman have
to... Then that is fine but she doesn't see why beyond that
(inaudible).
COMMENTS
Councilmember Santoro said she thought there would have to be
some kind of consistency that they have because that gives the
other residents the opportunity to be hired by living here.
Councilmember Quinones said she feels that you can always give
Carteret residents a preference. If someone from Carteret applies
and they are qualified for the position she didn't see why they
should not have the preference..
Councilmember Santoro said they could but that doesn't insure it
by them living in Carteret.
Councilmember Quinones said it doesn't insure what?
Councilmember Santoro replied that they would be hired. People
who are living here, paying taxes, supporting the stores, supporting
the bnsinesses, they do deserve that chance.
Councilmember Quinones said you don't have to preclude them.
She said if she wants to hire someone for a particular position and
nobody from Carteret applies from it then she is prohibited from
taking someone from Woodbridge or Rahway or wherever that is
perfectly qualified for the position.
councilmember Santoro asked how many times has that happened.
There are carteret residents that want that position.
At this point there is much yelling between Councilmembers
Quinones and Santoro.
TRANSCRIBER'S
NOTE
Councilmember Santoro asked how many applications from
Carteret are in for that position? Are there other Carteret residents?
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Councilmember Quinones replied yes there are.
Councilmember Santoro said she feels because they have a
residency requirement that they will be insured that they will be
considered before somebody living outside of Carteret.
Councilmember Quinones said she thinks there are plenty of
incidents we could look for people on the outside. We can g0 back
and forth with this all night and you can support this or not but this
is what she wanted to propose.
Councilmember Crilley addressed Councilmember Quinones and
said one of the problems with this is if there is (inaudible) in the
contracts, specifically the (inaudible) of the Ordinance.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said he didn't believe there was
any language in the Contract with regard to residency.
Mayor Failace said when they went through it page by page...
Councilmember Crilley said he though there was because he thinks
it was brought up in negotiations.
Mayor Failace said if anything was brought up it was the opposite.
Councilmember Crilley agreed with the Mayor and said it was
brought up by the Unions to soften it. Once again he said he wasn't
certain if it was or wasn't but he believes there is some sort of
reference to that. If it is it is in one contract then you have to be a
resident then you can't pass an Ordinance for the rest of the
Borough and an Ordinance can't oversee that contract.
DISCUSSION
Councilmember Quinones said she reaìly doesn't recall it being in
any of our contracts. She then asked the Borough Attorney to
check that out.
Councilmember Fazekas said regardless, if there is ample people
(inaudible) from the Borough they should be able to fiJl the
position..
Mayor Failace asked who said they wouldn't?
Councilmember Fazekas said what he is saying thought is that it
has always been the direction of hiring from the Borough.
Councilmember Quinones said just because it has always been like
that doesn't mean it has to stay like that.
councilmember Fazekas said it gives the opportunity to Borough
residents. .
Councilmember Quinones said she didn't think they were
prohibiting that at all. She said she doesn't see what the issue is.
You don't have to not hire somebody..
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Councilmember Santoro told Councilmember Quinones that she
had her opinion but before you go for a vote she thinks legally it
has to be checked.
Councilmember Quinones asked the Borough Attorney to please
check that before you direct the Ordinance.
Mayor Failace said if they are specifically talking about the new
transfer position with Police Departments and so forth we're
prohibited from transferring if there is a Police Officer that is on
the force and we are looking for a trained officer to save us money
so it Joes prohibit us from hiring minorities and so forth. He then
said he meet with Glenn Burman and he asked awhile ago to do
that and give some consideration. It prohibits us from diversifying
our Police Force. He then addressed the Borough Attorney..
Councilmember Crilley asked ifthere are state statutes..
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said with regard to the Police
there are statutes that say you can't require them to live in carteret.
Councilmember Santoro asked if they were aware of the person
who transferred out ofthe town?
Mayor Failace replied yes, very much so and it is a shame because
she is a good officer.
Mayor Failace said he had a few things to discuss. He said he met
with David Roberts from Schoor DePalma and they are ready with
their Redevelopment Plan. He said he thinks they need to put on an
Ordinance establishing a Redevelopment Agency. They are ready
to go to the Local Finance Board in December and he thinks they
need to have this in place and we need to be ready to move. He
said he thinks it is exciting and what they talked about and there
will be copies of other things and copies made available to the
Councilmembers before the. . .
DAVE ROBERTS-
SCHOOR DE PALMA
Councilmember Santoro asked if they could...before they put it
together.
Mayor Failace said he thought it was imperative that they move
forward on this. Secondly, quite a while ago we brought up ..
Councilmember Santoro interrupted the Mayor and said gomg
back to the Redevelopment Agency, does he want it set up?
Mayor Failace replied just to create the Redevelopment Agency by
Ordinance.
Councilmember Santoro asked if it had to do with appointments
Mayor Failace replied that they are not doing that yet. This is just
creating a Redevelopment Agency so they can go down to the local
Finance Board. He then said he talked many months ago in
reference to the sewers and the privatization of said sewers. We all
have these booklets and he reviewed them again and gone over it
and if we don't do something, if we choose not to do privatization
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that is fine, that is all well and good. If we don't choose
privatization or if we don't come up with some kind of plan, we're
in dire straits in the next three years. We're in a hole of about one
hundred thousand dollars...
Councilmember Santoro said that was only with a smaller bond,
double it.
Mayor Failace said what happens is we can make adjustruents to
the commercial, which would pickup (inaudible) dollars a year in
accordance to this . He said he thinks this has to be considered, he
is not asking to do anything next week, all he is saying is that they
have two new Councilmembers or Councilmembers - elect they
need to get copies of this. Each and everyone of us has to review
this and make a decision, and if you choose not to do this, then you
have to come up with a plan. If we don't come up with a plan
we're going to be in very dire straits because this is going to go
into the millions in deficit in the next four or five years.
Councilmember Santoro addressed the Mayor and told him that
they collected all those books back from every body, she said she
kept hers.
Mayor Failace said he didn't know they collected them.. .He then
said he still have his.
Councilmember Santoro asked if they could ask the company to
give them back the copies so every one can start to review them.
Mayor Failace said they could make copies of what they had there.
Councilmember Crilley asked what was a 50 dollar (inaudible).
DISCUSSION
Mayor Failace replied about a three hundred thousand dollars. He
then said he didn't know if they should consider that at first. We
cut the sewer user fee four years ago and he doesn't think they
want to consider going back to (inaudible) if it is possible not to.
He said he thinks they have a big enough burden on the sewer user
fee and it should have been cut. There is no doubt in his mind that
the cut was deserved.
Councilmember Crilley said at that time it was appropriate.
Mayor Failace replied absolutely, but his point is he thinks there
are other avenues that they can take and this is one of them. He
said he didn't understand, everyone has to review it themselves,
but the bottom line is that he doesn't see where this is a loss for
the Borough of Carteret. No jobs are hurt, no employees are hurt
but our sewers still have to be fixed by them.
Councilmember Santoro asked what were the pluses. We went
over the discussion and the idea for adjusting the commercial is a
great idea and she didn't know why they had not looked into that
before then. That we can do on our own, we don't need anybody.
Mayor Failace said what he is asking is if we can bring them in
again but he wants the Council to review it first then bring them in
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again, review it first and asked questions and let the professionals
answer the questions. He said they have to be ready to do this, if
not this certainly something else. If we choose not to do this then
those who are against this have got to sit down and come up with a
plan that will not infect the citizens with a large increase with the
sewer user fee. If we don't do something three years from now
we'll be sitting in a hole to the tune of a couple of million dollars.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said the purpose of doing that
and discussing that in closed session was that it forms the basis for
negotiations with potential (inaudible). Copies should only be
made for Mayor and Council.
Mayor Failace said copies should be given to both
Councilmembers-elect Rios and Reiman. The Mayor said when
they did the Ordinance and created the position of The Director of
the Department of Public Works and we created the salaries and so
on. We never did a Resolution and named Ted Surick the Director
of the Department of Public Works. He said he would to propose
that they do that resolution. The Mayor then asked if they could do
that without making a resolution
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said yes, they could adopt a
Resolution and make that appointruent and then we'll confirm it.
Councilmember Santoro asked the Borough Attorney if the parks
could report to a Public Works on what they are doing. We have
separate departments..
Councilmember Crilley said they have a Public Works Director..
DISCUSSION
CONTINUED
Councilmember Santoro said they did not have a Public Works
Director. We never appointed anyone.
Councilmember Crilley asked if they made an Ordinance. We have
a position that combines that combines all ofthe ..
Councilmember Santoro interrupted and she doesn't think that they
do. To combine the way we are set up..
Mayor Failace asked if they didn't they discuss that originally. He
said h~ thought they could.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said they adopted the Ordinance
creating the position, which includes it. The one remaining issue
would be the organizational chart that is in the Ordinance with
regard to whom the Parks Department reports to. He said he didn't
believe that had been modified. He said he is not aware of statute,
which prohibits the Parks from being under the jurisdiction of the
Public Works Superintendent.
Councilmember Santoro asked if this person got paid.
Mayor Failace replied that he did. When it was originally done
with out, when we put it in place (inaudible). The Mayor said he
would like to put a resolution on and do it immediately and amend
it back to September 23'd.
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COMMENTS
PUBLIC HEARING
OPENED
PUBLIC HEARING
CLOSED
RESOLUTION #00-371
Councilmember -Elect Rios asked if Sally Mesler was getting
changed again.
Mayor Failace replied no. All they didn't do was name Ted Surick.
Councilmember Crilley said they can vote on that because they
advertised that there may be business taken.
Municipal Clerk Kathleen Barney said it would be advertised on
Tuesday.
Mayor Failace said he wants it done today.
Municipal Clerk Kathleen Barney said they have to reaffirm it.
Councilmember Crilley asked why they had to reaffirm it on
Tuesday.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said they didn't have to vote on
it all they have to do is the (inaudible). There is no physical
resolution that is at the meeting so someone can make a motion..
Councilmember Crilley said it could be a verbal resolution.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said he would then memorialize
it.
councilmember Crilley asked if it had to be re-voted on.
The Borough Attorney replied no.
Councilmember Crilley said to make a motion to appoint Ted
Surick to the position effective to the passage of the Ordinance to
the salaries stated in the ordinance.
Mayor Failace asked the Borough Attorney if before we do this do
they need to open to the public tonight.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said if it was seconded it would
have opened it to the public already.
Upon MMS&C, by councilmembers Crilley and Quinones and
unanimous affirmative vote of the full membership present, the
Mayor declared the Public Hearing to be open:
There being no comments or objections to Resolution #03-371, the
Mayor declared the Public hearing to be closed, upon MMS&C,
by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones and unanimous
affirmative vote ofthe full membership present.
RESOLUTION #00-371 was introduced by the Mayor and referred
to the Council for action.
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Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones
RESOLUTION #00-371
"APPOINTING THEODORE SURICK - DIRECTOR OF
PUBLIC WORKS"
was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers
Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted in the affirmative.
Councilmembers Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda voted no. Mayor
Failace broke the tie and voted yes for the adoption of the
Resolution.
Coun:;ilmember Santoro asked the Borough Attorney if something
comeš out ofthat be in conflict, what happens.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin replied that if you can't do it ...
Councilmember Santoro asked if they did something incorrectly.
Then you are paying an individual for circumstance, right?
Mayor Failace addressed Councilmember Santoro and told her
they already paid him and they already discussed whether or not
they could do that or not.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said the question is can you
appoint him to the position and the answer to that is yes. As he
understands it, he has the qualifications to hold that job title. The
question that Councilwoman Santoro is asking is if the underlying
position or a portion of that job title can't remain structured, as it
is, which is allocated some portion of the stipend that he receives
and what the consequence is. The answer to that is to correct the
stipend ifhe isn't doing all of the work
Councilmember-Elect Reiman asked if there was a possibility that
(inaudible) would deny taking the position.
Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin said there is a possibility.
Mayor Failace said he assu.mes they wouldn't deny it since he
accepted the salary for it.
RESOLUTION #00-372 was introduced by the Mayor and referred
to the Council for action
Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and O'Brien
RESOLUTION # 00-372
"RESOLUTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION"
APPOINTING T.
SURICK-DIRECTOR
OF PUBLIC WORKS
ADOPTED
COMMENTS
RESOLUTION 100-372
"TO GO INTO CLOSED
SESSION"
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Pt.DOPTED
was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote Councilmembers
Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted
in the affirmative for the adoption.
OPENED TO THE
PUBLIC
At approximately 8:50 P.M., upon MMS&c, by Councilmembers
Crilley and Fazekas and unanimous affirmative vote of the full
membership present, the meeting was opened to the public.
ADJOURNED
At approximately 8:51 P.M., upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers
Crilley and O'Brien and unanimous affirmative vote of the full
membership present the meeting was adjourned.
Respectfully submitted,
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/ THLEE M. BARNEY U
Municipal Clerk
KMB/apm
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