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HomeMy Public PortalAbout2000/11/14 The Regular Meeting of the Mayor and Council of the Borough of Carteret was called to order by Mayor James A. Failace at approximately 7:30 P.M. on Thursday, November 14, 2000, Municipal CourUPolice Facility, 230 Roosevelt Avenue, Carteret, New Jersey. Upon individual roll call, the foIlowing were noted present: Councilmember Patrick Crilley " Jack Fazekas " James O'Brien Remy Quinones Janet Santoro Buddy Sohayda " Also noted present were Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack and Douglas Walsh Esq. representing Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin. Noted absent was Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin. The meeting was opened with a moment of Silent Prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance led by Mayor James A. Failace. The Clerk stated that on November 9, 2000, in full compliance with the Open Public Meeting Act, a notice of tonight's meeting was sent to The Home News Tribune, The Star Ledger and posted on the bulletin board. ORDINANCE #00-51 was introduced and adopted on the first Reading and the Clerk authorized and directed to advertise same for Public Hearing to be held on December 7, 2000, upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and O'Brien. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmember Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro, Sohayda voted in the affirmative. ORDINANCE #00-51 "AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ORDINANCE #71-9 ESTABLISHING SALARY SCHEDULES AND FIXING THE MANNER OF PAYMENT OF SALARIES FOR VARIOUS OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE BOROUGH OF CARTERET" Ordinance #00-52 was introduced for first reading 1 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 COUNCIL t1EETING ROLL CALL PRAYER, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE STATEMENT OF MEETING NOTICE ORDINANCE #00-51 TO AMEND ORDINANCE #71-9 RE: SALARIES FOR BOROUGH OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES RE: CLERK TYPIST WITH TRANSCRIBING DUTIES NOVEMBER 14, 2000 ORDINANCE #00-52 AMENDING CHAPTER 38-19 RE: BOROUGH EMPLOYEE HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE Upon MMS&C by Councilmember Quinones and Santoro a motion was made to Table Ordinance #00-52 until the Agenda Meeting in order to address some of the issues and concerns. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmember Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro, Sohayda voted in the affirmative. ORDINANCE # 00-52 "AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 38-19 OF CODE OF THE BOROUGH OF CARTERET" Ordinance #00-53 was introduced at First Reading. ORDINANCE #00-53 AMENDING CODE CHAPTER #38-5 RE: REPEALING RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR BOROUGH EMPLOYEES Councilmember Santoro asked the Council to Table the Ordinance since it was only discussed briefly at the Agenda Meeting and this is the first time we are receiving and outline of what needs to be done. I asked that we table it to an Agenda so that we can discuss it. MOTION TO TABLE Upon MMS&C by Council members Santoro and Fazekas, a motion was made to Table Ordinance #00-53 until the next Agenda Meeting. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. Councilmembers Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted no. MOTION FAILS Mayor Failace voted no to break the tie. Motion to Table Ordinance #00-53 was denied. COMMENTS Councilmember Quinones stated that she wanted to make a motion to amend the Ordinance to essentially reflect what is in the police requirement, that the individual be living or required to be living in Carteret at the time of hire, retain residency for a year and then be allowed to leave. Council member Santoro asked Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack if he had contacted the union regarding this. Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack stated that the unions that we negotiated with are supportive of amending the Ordinance. Councilmember Santoro asked Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack if he had that in writing. 2 Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack stated that the request was all a part of the negotiations. Councilmember Santoro asked the Business Administrator whose negotiation was this apart of and which unions did he negotiate with? Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack responded the white collar, the blue collar. Councilmember Santoro stated you negotiated with the blue coIlar. Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack stated we have been negotiating with the blue collar for months; for years. Councilmember Santoro asked Doug Walsh Esq., if this was an issue that would be effected by any union negotiations. Doug Walsh Esq., stated he can't see a reason why without looking at the contracts. He said it is more of an issue with Civil Service. He said that with respect to the Police Department there is already a State Statue that forbids residency requirements that went into effect a few years ago to try to allow for a more multi-diverse Police Force. With respect to other Municipal Employees, it is still up to the town if they want to have residency requirements, resident preference, or no preference whatsoever. Councilmember Santoro asked Business Administrator Goldsack if he knew what other towns do. Business Administrator Goldsack stated no we do not. Councilmember Santoro asked the Business Administrator if he has ever called other towns to see what their requirements were. Business Administrator Goldsack answered no, these were part of the negotiations. Mayor James Failace asked why would they need to call other towns in reference to this specifically. Councilmember Santoro stated because there is a consistency, Mr. Failace Mayor Failace asked a consistency with what. Councilmember Santoro responded we should be doing in regards to opening it up and you are hiring people from outside. Mayor Failace responded as Remy stated, the applicants has to be a resident of Carteret for a year. Councilmember Santoro stated for a year and then you will allow them to move out. Mayor Failace and Councilmember Quinones stated if they choose to. Councilmember Santoro stated ok let's go for a vote. 3 NOVEtlBER 14, 2000 COMMENTS (Continued) NOVEMBER 14, 2000 COMMENTS (Continued) AMENDED ADOPTED AS AMENDED COMMENTS Councilmember Crilley asked Doug Walsh Esq., if there was anything preventing them from passing the resolution and then getting it signed off by each individual union. Doug Walsh Esq. stated that it is an Ordinance. To answer your question it is correct if you want to have the unions sign off there would be nothing stopping you. Upon MMS&C by Councilmembers Quinones and Crilley, a motion was made to Amend Ordinance #00-53. Stating that the individual be living or required to be living in Carteret at the time of hire, retain residency for a year and then be allowed to leave. Councilmembers Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted in the affirmative. Councilmembers Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda, voted no. Mayor Failace voted yes to break the tie. Motion to Amend Ordinance #00-53 was approved. ORDINANCE #00-53 was introduced and adopted as amended on the First Reading and the Clerk authorized and directed to advertise same for Public Hearing top be held on December 7,2000, upon MMS&C, by Council members Quinones and Crilley. Upon individual roll call vote, Council members Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted in the affirmative. Council members Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda voted no. Mayor James A. Failace voted yes to break the tie. Ordinance #00-53 was adopted as amended. ORDINANCE #00-53 "AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 38-5 OF THE CODE OF THE BOROUGH OF CARTERET AND REPEALING THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS FOR BOROUGH EMPLOYEES." Councilmember Santoro stated that just like the Mayor stated at a previous meeting until he got a decision on the health insurance benefits for the Council he would keep bringing it up. Five weeks before two new members are going to be taking a seat on this Council. She felt the present Council should not make this decision. Councilmember Santoro said she is going to be bringing this up again in January, for change. Mayor Failace stated that one of the new members coming on the Council called his home to ask him if he would do away with the residency clause and at that time, he did not think he would. 4 Councilmember Santoro stated the main thing is that at one time, you were against it, and at one time Ms. Quinones wanted it to be on the referendum and now five weeks before new people are going to take a seat we have to do this immediately. Councilmember Quinones stated that it was too late to put it on the referendum. You can reintroduce whatever you like. She is not going to stop conducting Borough Business because two new Council people are coming on in a matter of weeks. She said she has business to conduct and she wants to propose it, you can support it or not, it is your prerogative. Council member Santoro stated that she is going on notice that she will bring it up again Mayor Failace stated that the Council is getting ready to create a redevelopment agency, before going to the Board of Local Finance in reference to the revitalization of Lower Roosevelt A venue. This is the one step that will get us ready when we go to the board in December. ORDINANCE #00-54 was introduced and adopted on the First Reading and the Clerk authorized and directed to advertise same for Public Hearing to be held on December 7, 2000, upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Quinones and Crilley. Upon individual roll call, Council members Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. Councilmember Santoro abstained. ORDINANCE 00-54 "AN ORDINANCE CREATING A CARTERET REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY" The Clerk stated that Ordinance # 00-50 was introduced and passed upon First Reading at a Regular Meeting of the Borough Council on November 2, 2000. It was duly published in the Home News Tribune on November 7, 2000 with notice that it will be considered for final passage after Public Hearing to be held on November 14, 2000 at approximately 7:30 P.M. The Ordinance was posted on the bulletin board and copies were made available to the general public and according, she read the Ordinance by title. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers CriIley and Quinones and unanimous affirmative vote of the full Council present, the Mayor declared the Public Hearing to be open: NOVEMBER 14, 2000 COMMENTS (Continued) ORDINANCE #00-54 CREATING A CARTERET REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ORDINANCE #00-50 AMENDING ORDINANCE #89-18 RE:HEALTH l:NSURANCE BENEFITS PUBLIC HEARING 5 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 COMMENTS HEARING CLOSED ADOPTED :;OMMENTS Ron Rios, of Marion Street in Carteret asked about the Ordinance for the health insurance benefits. He asked the Mayor if he could explain it to him a little bit. Mayor Failace explained this is to do away with health benefits for Mayor and Council. Ron Rios said thank you. Mayor Failace stated what he proposed awhile ago when it was voted down was that he would continue to bring it up every meeting until it passes as long as he is the Mayor. There being no further comments or objections to the Ordinance, the Mayor declared the Public Hearing closed, upon MMS&C by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones and unanimous affirmative vote ofthe Full Council present. Upon MMS&C by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones ORDINANCE #00-50 "AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE #89-18" was finally adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted In the affirmative. Councilmembers Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda voted no. Mayor James Failace voted in the affirmative to break the tie. Ordinance #00-50 was adopted Approved and Adopted: November 14. 2000 Introduced: November 2.2000 Advertised as adopted on first reading With notice of Public Hearing: November 7,2000 Hearing held: November 14, 2000 Approved by: Mavor James Failace Advertised as finally adopted: November 21,2000 Councilmember Santoro stated that she thinks it is amazing that this has been in effect since the eighties and the target seems to be three members of this council who are receiving it; Mr. O'Brien received it for six years while he sat there, and if he was running, she wondered if he would be voting the same way. She said this was something that was given, they admitted an attorney a prosecutor, they picked and choose what they wanted to select and she voted no. 6 Councilmember Quinones stated to Council member O'Brien that he has the right to change his mind just like other members sitting on this council have done with regard to other issues where they voted yes and then turned around and voted no. Mayor Failace stated he absolutely agrees with this and has agreed with this for a long time. He said he has never taken the benefits from the Borough and he thinks it is outrageous that members do take it as a double dip and he felt that really stinks. He felt it is a burden on the Borough that should not be there. He has said before this could save in the future one hundred thousand dollars. He voted yes. A copy of each Resolution was placed upon the table for public review prior to the meeting in accordance to the Rules of Council and upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Quinones and O'Brien and unanimous affirmative vote of the full members present, the meeting was opened for public input on all Resolutions. John Sudia stated that he is a fifty-year taxpayer in Carteret. Looking at Resolution #00-387 appropriation for another $15,000.00 for Helmer, Kaseel & Stowell, Esq. He said he felt they have ruined our Police Department and after looking at the bill list he sees we have already given them another $2500.00. He asked where is all this money coming from. Mayor Failace stated that it is coming from the budget because in fact we are in the mist of litigation and asked if he thought the Council should change attorneys now? He said he felt that would be nuts and that it would cost this Borough a lot more money and said he totally disagree with Mr. Sudia regarding our Police Department being ruined. Mr. Sudia stated what his problem is the $2500.00 he said he was under the impression that there was no more money available. Mayor Failace responded no money available. There was "X" amount of dollars, he was in the middle of litigation and just like when there is any litigation going on more money is necessary to continue that litigation, then we do what we are doing. Mr. Sudia asked why we spend $2519.00 from money that we supposedly did not have. Mayor Failace stated there was money still left there, John, now they are running out of money, and they need more to continue the litigation. Councilmember Santoro asked if the Council during the Agenda, asked this person come forward to explain it. 7 NOVEMBER 14 2000 , COMMENTS (Continued) MEETING OPENED PUBLIC INPUT ON ALL RESOLUTIONS COMMENTS NOVEMBER 14, 2000 COMMENTS (Continued) MEETING CLOSED RESOLUTION #00-373 PROVIDING FOR TRANSFER OF SURPLUS FUNDS Mayor Failace stated absolutely and he said that we would put this on because we can not stop now with what we are doing and would continue forward. He said it might take more than this. Councilmember Santoro asked why would we, before we speak and hear an update from him, be voting to give money. Mayor Failace stated because if we don't then they have to stop what they are doing. Councilmember Santoro asked if they are going to be doing much work in the next week. Mayor Failace stated that they are doing enough work as they have to but the bottom line is that he would believe that this Council is going to agree when they sit down and talk them. He said he has been in contact with them. John Sudia stated this brings him to another point concerning Captain Stowell. He did not now how Patrick ...(inaudible)... but he understands that there is a court order regarding promotion that should have been given to a member of the Police Department, and he has been made to understand that Stowell is going to attempt to appeal that court order. He asked if he going to do that with taxpayer money, or is he going to do that on his own. Council member Quinones stated that she is not sure they should be discussing this. Mayor Failace agreed he said that this is litigation and personally, he really didn't want to discuss this right now. Mr. Sudia responded that quite frankly we throwaway a lot of money on these guys and we are going to end up throwing away a lot more because in the end it is going to cost this Municipality a heck of a lot more money. Mayor Failace thanked Mr. Sudia. There being no further comments or objections to the Resolutions, the Mayor declared the Public Hearing closed upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Quinones and Fazekas and unanimous affirmative vote of the full Council present. RESOLUTION #00-373 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmember Crilley and O'Brien RESOLUTION #00-373 " PROVIDING FOR THE TRANSFER OF SURPLUS FUNDS" 8 was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. RESOLUTION #00-374 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Crilley and Quinones RESOLUTION #00-374 "PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACTS FOR LEGAL SERVICES" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote. Council members Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. RESOLUTION #00-375 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. " Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Quinones and CriIley RESOLUTION #00-375 " APPOINTING FULL TIME PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATOR TRAINEE" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Council members Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted in the affirmative. Councilmembers Santoro and Sohayda voted no. Councilmember Fazekas abstained. RESOLUTION #00-376 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Quinones and Fazekas RESOLUTION #00-376 " AUTHORIZING CARTERET COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO REQUEST FUNDING FOR THE W ASHINGTON AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRICT REVITALIZATION" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda vote in the affirmative. NOVEMBER 14, 2000 RESOLUTION #00-374 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES - SPADORO AND HILSON, Esq., NOT TO EXCEED $20,000.00 RE: CALDWELL vs. BOROUGH ADOPTED RESOLUTION #00-375 APPOINTING KAREN SHIRLEY - PUBLIC SAFETY TELECOMMUNICATOR TRAINEE ADOPTED RESOLUTION #00-376 AUTHORIZING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT TO REQUEST FUNDING FOR THE WASHINGTON AVENUE BUSINESS DISTRCICT REVITALIZATION ADOPTED 9 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 RESOLUTION #00-377 AWARD OF BID - IMPROVEMENTS TO DOROTHY STREET PUMP STATION ADOPTED RESOLUTION #00-377 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Council members Crilley and Fazekas RESOLUTION #00-377 " AWARD OF BID- IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DOROTHY STREET PUMP STATION" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmati ve. RESOLUTION #00-378 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to RESOLUTION 00-378 the Council for action. APPOINTING THEODORE KASKIW TEMPORARY PLUMBING SUB-CODE OFFICIAL Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Quinones and Fazekas ADÐPTED COMMENTS RESOLUTION #00-379 AUTHORIZING BIDS - EVIDENCE ROOM STORAGE SYSTEM ,./ RESOLUTION #00-378 " APPOINTING THEODORE KASKIW - TEMPORARY PLUMBING, SUBCODE OFFICIAL" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. Councilmember Crilley asked was this Jr. or Sr.? Councilmember Quinones answered Sr. RESOLUTION #00-379 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones RESOLUTION #00-379 " AUTHORIZING BIDS-EVIDENCE ROOM STORAGE SYSTEM" 10 was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote. Council members Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. Councilmember Santoro asked Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack how much was budgeted for the bond. Business Administrator stated that he thinks it is around $7500.00. RESOLUTION #00-380 was introduced by Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Fazekas RESOLUTION #00-380 " RESOLUTION APPROVING CHANGE ORDER" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote. Councilmembers Crilley Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones and Santoro voted in the affirmative. Councilmember Sohayda voted no. Councilmember Crilley remarked that he was wa1king around in the town center and it really looks very nice. RESOLUTION #00-381 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Fazekas RESOLUTION #00-381 " APPOINTING ANGELA MITTERANDO, CARMELA POGORZELSKI, T AQUALLA RANSDELL, ANNMARIE ROSE AS CLERK-TYPIST WITH TRANSCRIBING DUTIES" was adopted. Upon individual roll caIl vote, Councilmember Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. RESOLUTION #00-382 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Fazekas 11 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 COMMENTS RESOLUTION #00-380 APPROVING CHANGE ORDER, $18,326.58 RE:t1ARVEC CONSTRUCTION .- TOWN CENTER PROJECT ADOPTED COMMENTS RESOLUTION #00-381 APPOINTING ANGELA MITTERANDO CARMELA POGORZELSKI ANNMARIE ROSE TAQUALLA RANSDELL CLERK TYPIST WITH TRANSCRIBING DUTIES ADOPTED RESOLUTION #00-382 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES-HAMAL ASSOCIATES, INC. , NOT TO EXCEED $13,600.00, RE:TRAFFIC STUDY SERVICES NOVEMBER 14, 2000 ADOPTED RESOLUTION #00-383 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES-LAURO ARCHITECTS, NOT TO EXCEED $2700.00, RE:HANDICAPPED ACCESS RAMP AT THE BOARD OF HEALTH ADOPTED RESOLUTION #00-384 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES-KILLAM ASSOCIATES, NOT TO EXCEED $57,500.00, RE:ENGINEERING DESIGN-ICI AND 1&1 REDUCTION PROGRAM, SEWER SEPARATION AND REPAIR CONTRACT COMMENTS RESOLUTION #00-382 " PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR ENGINEER SERVICE" '- was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmember Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien and Quinones voted In the affirmative. Councilmembers Santoro and Sohayda voted no. RESOLUTION # 00-383 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Fazekas RESOLUTION # 00-383 "PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmati ve. RESOLUTION #00-384 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Counci1member Santoro stated that before the Council votes on the next three resolutions, these were the three items discussed at the Agenda. She said the work they are proposing to look into we have no money for and this is the $600,000.00 that Killam proposes as work to be done. She said we do not have any money set aside to do this, and asked that the Council table these three items. Business Administrator Nicholas Goldsack stated that we have over $300,000.00 in existence plus $86,000.00 to cover the work that Killam wants to do regarding this reduction program. Councilmember Santoro stated that is only for professional fees and asked where are we going to get the construction money from. 12 Mayor Failace stated that to his understanding the construction money as stated at the Agenda meeting is from the grant that we are going to appl y for. Councilmember Santoro stated right now we do not have the money in place. Mayor Failace stated that is correct. Councilmember Santoro stated that until they have the money in place she is asking that we table this. Business Administrator Nicholas Go1dsack stated we have the money in place for these. Councilmember Santoro stated we have money in p1ace for a combination. They did $86,000.00 worth of work and some of that work should be done. We are taking money from construction to fix the first phase of the illegal connections, and we are going to be using it just on our professional fees. Business Administrator Nicholas G01dsack stated that he does not know if that money was set aside for construction because there was no determination as far as how many illegal connections were out. Councilmember Santoro stated we already know of some and we are going to be using that money on professional fees. Mayor Failace responded when you say professiona1 fees the Engineering design must be done no matter what. Councilmember Santoro answered right but until we know where we are getting the money from for the design.. . (inaudible). .. Mayor Failace answered we got to have this design done because he does not understand what the problem is. Councilmember Santoro stated that we do not have the money in place. Mayor Failace answered that we do have the money. Councilmember Santoro stated no we don't Mayor Fai1ace said we do. Councilmember Santoro stated we do not have the $600,000.00 that they were going to be estimating. Mayor Failace stated no but we have the money to do the designs and then we will not have to do the designs will we. Councilmember Santoro stated there is some work that needs to be done in the first phase and we are going to be using that $300,000.00 towards that, and sh asked if we can table it. 13 NOVEMBER 41, 2000 COMMENTS (Continued) NOVEMBER 14, 2000 MOTION TO TABLE MOTION FAILED COMMENTS Upon MMS&C by Council members Santoro and Sohayda and individual roll call vote Council members Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative to table resolutions #00-384, #00-385 and #00-386. Councilmembers Crilley, O'Brien, and Quinones voted no. Mayor Failace voted no breaking the tie and resolutions # 00-384, #00- 385 and #00-386 were not tabled. Councilmember Crilley said he did not see any reason why we should not move this Borough forward and they have been mandated by the State to correct these problems. He said we have been fined by the State and felt in order to set up the funding for the projects you need to do the Engineering. He said you need to get figures and facts to see exactly what you have to do. This is the first step; you have to do it. There is no reason to delay it; every delay is a delay to the people of Carteret who are suffering here with the problem. Councilmember Fazekas stated that he agrees that we have to do the engineering but I think we have to ...(inaudib1e)... he said he knew at the Agenda we discussed where that was going to come from. He still thinks that we should do that so we know where it is going to come from. We know it is $600,000.00 Mayor Failace asked how do we know what the construction cost are. Councilmember Santoro stated he estimated $600,000.00. Mayor Failace stated that he absolutely believe that we have to continue with these projects. We have to move forward, and you know what if next year, and he hates to say this, not all the new Council...(inaudible)... It seems like there is a problem with the bond and getting these sewers done, but you know if in fact we have to bond to continue doing the sewer that is exactly what we have to do. We are being very remise to this Borough and to the citizens of in this Borough. He said if we can get the money from somewhere then that is great but if we can't get the money from somewhere then we have got to go out there and get it ourselves. So one way or another we have to get the money next year to continue this project. RESOLUTION #00-384 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones RESOLUTION #00-384 " PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES" 14 was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmember Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted in the affirmative. Councilmember Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda voted no. Mayor James Failace voted in the affirmative to break the tie. Resolution #00-384 was adopted. Counci1member Santoro stated nobody wants to stop the progress of the sewers and the improvements of the town. At the same time, you have to plan and figure out how you are going to pay for these. We asked back in October when there was filing being done with the state for a zero and low interest loan we missed out on. Unti1 we call down to the state and she spoke to Killam, they hadn't even filed for that money. That is money that is going to be moving us forward in the future. We bonded less then two months ago and already it has changed and were fined $600,000.00 more. She is sure that before it ends there is going to be another million and we are looking for grants and help from the state. All she is saying is that without planning and without helping the citizens of Carteret who are going to have to pay for this. She is trying to do the best possible job. You are not going to be able to do everything all at once. All she would like to know before she votes on something is where we are getting the money. Mayor Failace stated he called Senator Lautenberg's office today and told him he needed $1.5 million and was told they would probably vote on it December 5, 2000. If in fact they do get the money that is good. Again, if doing the designs for these projects is not planning then he did not know what is. Regardless, the design for these projects is going to have to be done and said we might as well do it now instead of waiting until then. RESOLUTION #00-385 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones RESOLUTION #00-385 " PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted in the affirmative. Council members Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda voted no. 15 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 ADOPTED COMMENTS RESOLUTION #00-385 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES -..KILLAM ASSOCIATES,NOT TO EXCEED $22,500.00 RE:CONTRACT ADMINISTRATION- ICI AND 1&1 REDUCTION PROGRAM, SEWER SEPARATION AND REPAIR CONTRACT ADOPTED NOVEMBER 14, 2000 RESOLUTION #00-386 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES-KILLMAN ASSOCIATES, NOT TO EXCEED $58,000.00 RE:CONSTRUCTION SERVICES-ICI AND 1&1 REDUCTION PROGRAM, SEWER SEPARATION AND REPAIR CONTRACT ADOPTED RESOLUTION #00-387 PROFESSIONAL SERVICES-HELMER, KASSEL& STOWELL ESQ.,NOT TO EXCEED $15,000.00 -RE:D. NAGY. ADOPTED NOTED ABSENT COMMENTS Mayor Failace voted in the affirmative to break the tie. Resolution #00-385 was adopted. RESOLUTION #00-386 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Quinones and Crilley RESOLUTION # 00-386 " PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR ENGINEERING SERVICES" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, O'Brien and Quinones voted in the affirmative. Councilmembers Fazekas, Santoro and Sohayda voted no. Mayor James Failace voted in the affirmative to break the tie. Resolution # 00-386 was adopted. RESOLUTION #00-387 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Fazekas RESOLUTION #00-387 " PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT FOR LEGAL SERVICES" was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, Fazekas, O'Brien and Quinones voted in the affirmative. Councilmembers Santoro and Sohayda voted no. Councilmember Fazekas was noted absent at 7:55 P.M. The Clerk asked the Mayor if he was going to amend the Liquor license. 16 Councilmember Quinones answered yes. She would like to make a motion to amend Resolution # 00- 370 which was adopted at the November 2nd Council meeting. The name has to be modified to reflect the corporate name Reibis Liquor Inc. being the seller and the buyer being Meldi Maa Corp. Upon MMS&C by Councilmembers Quinones and Crilley RESOLUTION #00-370 " RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A PERSON TO PERSON TRANSFER OF A.B.C. LICENSE NO. 1201-44-039-001 FROM: ANN B. REIBIS TO: KALDESH B. & PINKY K. PATEL" was amended. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. Councilmember Fazekas was noted absent Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones and unanimous affirmative vote of the five (5) Councilmembers present, the meeting was opened to the public to discuss Resolution #00-388 the amendment to Resolution #00-370 to reflect the corporate name Reibis Liquor Inc. being the seller and the buyer being Meldi Maa Corp. There being no comments or discussion to Resolution #00-388 the Mayor declared the meeting was closed for public discussion upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones and unanimous affirmative vote of the five (5) Councilmembers present. RESOLUTION #00-388 was introduced by the Mayor and referred to the Council for action. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones RESOLUTION #00-388 "RESOLUTION- AUTHORIZING A PERSON-TO -PERSON TRANSFER OF A.B.C. LICENSE NO: 1201-44-039-001 FROM: REIBIS INCORPORATED TO: MELDI MAA CORPORATION" 17 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 COMMENTS (Continued) MOTION TO AMEND RESOLUTIUON #00-370 A.B.C. LICENSE TRANSFER AMENDED MEETING OPENED TO THE PUBLIC FOR INPUT ON RESOLUTION #00-388 MEETING CLOSED RESOLUTION #00-388 A.B.C LICENSE TRANSFER TO REFLECT NAME CHANGE NOVEMBER 14, 2000 ADOPTED COMMUNICATIONS: OLD BRIDGE PAYMENT OF BILLS REPORTS DEPARTMENT STANDING COMMITTEES was adopted. Upon individual roll call vote, Councilmembers Crilley, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro, Sohayda voted in the affirmative. Council member Fazekas was noted absent. The Clerk stated that she was in receipt of Communication from the Township of Old Bridge- Resolution opposing A-2188 eliminating municipal rent control. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones and unanimous affirmative vote of the five (5) Council present it was ordered to be received and placed on file. Upon MMS&C, by Council members Quinones and Crilley all bills appearing on the prepared list properly audited and signed were ordered to be paid. Upon individual roll call vote Crilley, O'Brien, Quinones, Santoro and Sohayda voted in the affirmative. Councilmember Fazekas was noted absent. The Clerk stated that she was in receipt of the following reports: 1. Inspection of Buildings-October 2000 2. Sewage Collection-October 2000 Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and O'Brien and unanimous affirmative vote of the five Councilmembers present, all reports were ordered to be received and placed on file. BUILDINGS & GROUNDS: Committee Chairperson Santoro said they were waiting for the designs for the kitchen in the community center. Hopefully everything is moving along even though we have another snag in our long ongoing commitment to open this building. Hopefully we will be able to continue to have our C/O and move everybody in. Unfortunately it is in litigation and she cannot discuss exactly what happened but we do plan, well it has been stated to be able to move into the building by January 1, 2001. On another note on Sunday November 11, 2000 the Carteret Office of Emergency Management, Carteret First Aid Squad and the Carteret Fire Department conducted an emergency response drill. This simulated drill consisted on a motor vehicle accident involving a tractor-trailer 18 and a car with several passengers as well as a hazardous material spill. This drill was conducted at the entrance to the White Rose Trucking Distribution Center. The simulation consisted of the car being trapped under the tractor-trailer. The passengers received multiple injuries with there being a need for extraction of the passengers. She said she would like to commend all of the participating agencies on the professional manner in which this drill was handled. All of these agencies should have the highest standard of readiness and they were impressive with their ability to handle the emergency at hand. She said she would also like to thank the White Rose Company for their assistance and cooperation in making this emergency drill a success. She also wanted to state that if no one has ever been inside of the Office of Emergency Management they do an excellent job, their equipment is outstanding. The people who are involved there are outstanding and she commended everyone involved. She reported progress. FINANCE ADMINSTRATION: Committee Chairperson O'Brien reported progress. FIRE: Council member Quinones reported progress. Councilmember Santoro stated that she had a note that Councilmember Fazekas had left her regarding fire. We have received the second of three thermal imaging cameras from the State of New Jersey. Recently, we completed another public CPR class and want to thank the firefighters, especially instructors, Joseph Lombardi and Tommy Reynolds for their efforts in making this program a success. Our annual pump test was conducted on our Fire Engines, engine #2 and #3 both passed the test but reserve engine #9 and the foam pumper on engine #7 failed. We would also like to thank the firefighters for helping to make temporary repairs to engine #9. The firefighters received a donation of plywood from Tulnoy Lumber Company of Carteret and installed the wood in compartments of engine #9 that are severely rotted away. On Sunday as mentioned they had an Emergency disaster drill so, we will not go over that again. On Tuesday November 21,2000, The Fire Department will be conducting their annual Live Burn Training at the Midd1esex Fire Academy. She reported progress. PARKS AND RECREATION: Committee Chairperson Crilley stated that the tree lighting is scheduled for December 2, 2000 at 6:00 P.M. at Carteret Park, and of course, Santa will be there. The House Lighting Contest, judging is scheduled for December 18 &19, 2000. The seniors will be going out on Tuesday so you can call up the Senior Transportation line and sign up for that. Tonight he was happy to say that the Council signed the requisition approving new playground equipment for Shorecrest Park. The Mayor hopefully will sign that tomorrow morning, get that ordered, and we can try to pick a color scheme. The equipment is similar to what was installed in Cornell Estate Park in West Carteret. We are trying to get it installed by the end of the year but if not it will be installed for the spring and be ready 19 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 STANDING COMMITTEES (Continued) BUILDING & GROUNDS NOVEMBER 14, 2000 STANDING COMMITTEES (Continued) PARKS & RECREATION PUBLIC DISCUSSION COMMENTS to go. The bid on lights for Veterans Field will be going out the end of this month. We have $118,000.00 remaining in the budget for these two items and they will be under budget if the bids come in when they are projected to come in. If not he spoke to Mr. Patrick DeBlasio, Borough Treasurer and he assured me that they would be able to handle any minor adjustments if necessary. He reported progress. POLICE: Committee Chairperson Quinones stated that she had just one item to report. There is a public forum scheduled for Thursday November 30, 2000. It is going to be held in Edison at the Victorian Manor on Woodbridge Avenue. Elected officials and other public officials have been given this notice. It is a Law Enforcement Agenda and there wi]] be an Assistant Prosecutor from the county to give some sort of discussion and then open that up to community issues and what is important to communities and kind of share ideas. She said she would encourage anybody who is interested in that to attend. It is at 7:00 P.M. and if you need any further information, you can see Chris Elg or me. She reported progress. PUBLIC WORKS: Committee Chairperson Sohayda stated that pretty much everything has been going according to schedule. They are fixing signs and picking up leaves, which by the way we pay to get rid of. We have done some patching of the roads. He reported progress. BOARD OF EDUCATION: Committee Chairperson Santoro stated that her understanding is that there is a meeting set up for next week, Tuesday or Wednesday, with the Board Of Education. So by the next meeting there should be a report. She reported progress. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and O'Brien and unanimous affirmative vote of the five (5) Councilmembers present, the meeting was opened to the public for discussion. J ames Mancuso from Jackson A venue stated that he has been listening to discussions here about the sewers, who wants to do it, who does not want to do it, the planning that should be done the engineering that 20 should be done. He hates to seem like he is picking on anybody because he is not but, Counci1member Santoro you once said to me you were on the Board of Education for fourteen years and he congratulates her for this. Council member Santoro asked how many years was she on the Board of Education. Mr. Mancuso stated fourteen. Councilmember Santoro stated that once again Mr. Mancuso did not have the correct facts. Mr. Mancuso stated ok, however many years you were on, can you tell me what happened with that board and yourself all the...(inaudible)...? It cost us $11,500,000.00 to fix the schools and yet you are making comments here about spending to fix the sewers for people who cannot afford it. Yet the board and yourself being on it, and when you were not on it were in favor of $11,500,000.00, let us say 22... to start with to fix the school. You were the people who were on there and the schools are in that condition because of what you people decided on. Now we are making decisions on sewers he hopes that does not happen with the sewers. Second of all, he wou1d like to ask Councilmember Sohayda if he is in charge of the Sewer Department, and Streets and Roads. Councilmember Sohayda stated yes sir. Mr. Mancuso said that he was just wondering and curious because he never heard anything from him about it, and he feels that Councilmember Sohayda, as the head, should speak up and find out what is going on. He said he comes to the Agenda Meetings and he has not heard Counci1member Sohayda ask one question. He feels that Councilmember Sohayda is an elected official and he should know what he are doing. Councilmember Sohayda thanked Mr. Mancuso for his advice. Shawn Seymore stated that she sat and listened to the Council talk on Ordinance #00-54, Creating a Carteret Redevelopment Agency. Councilmember Sohayda you voted no yet you voted yes to Washington Avenue why? Councilmember Sohayda stated that he never saw the paper work before tonight's meeting and he is not really sure what it is all about. He was just given this 45 minutes before he was to vote. Shawn Seymore stated to Councilmember Sohayda that it is his job to find out. Shawn Seymore stated to Councilmember Santoro that it was her vote that put her in office, and she really does not like the way she has been handling her business as a Councilwoman. It seems to me that you are not trying to do anything for the people on Bergen Street in the Chrome area that voted for you. She feels that the next time Councilmember Santoro runs for office she needs to take that into consideration where she is going to get the votes to win from because she will not get them from her anymore. 21 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 PUBLIC DISCUSSION (Continued) NOVEMBER 14, 2000 PUBLIC DISCUSSION (Continued) Councilmember Santoro stated she wanted to go back to addressing that area. When it came to the sewers, every report that has come forward to us at this point nothing has addressed that area? Shawn Seymore stated that all she ever hears from her is her saying no to this and no to the redevelopment. Councilmember Santoro stated that Ms. Seymore had not heard the entire thing. Shawn Seymore stated, when you are saying no to the sewer that is a big issue down there that needs to be addressed. If it is not being addressed then you need to get on it and address it. Councilmember Santoro stated absolutely but it IS not on to be addressed. Shawn Seymore stated that Council member Santoro would never get another vote from down there because she is a poor Councilwomen. Council member Santoro said okay, thank you. Tom Lang from 6 Colgan Ave. stated that he would like to know why Councilmember Sohayda voted no on the Resolution #00-380 the change order of $18, 326.58 on Marvec Construction on the Town center Project. Councilmember Sohayda stated that he thinks it is a little high. Tom Lang said okay, thank you. He addressed Councilmember Crilley and said he would like to know tentatively when the roofs on the dugouts at Carteret Ave will be put on Sullivan Field. Councilmember Crilley stated that he does not know the answer to that to be honest with you. Those dugouts were donated by GATX and there were some problems with the contractor finishing the job. The last discussion he had he thinks we are going to be responsible for finishing the job. That is something that we will probably have done before the spring season begins. We secured it as best we could during this year's season by putting a temporary fencing up. Most of the money was donated by GATX. Tom Lang stated that as far as the roof at the Carteret High School, the tarring of the roof that was done during school hours, which he was appalled about. Being in the construction field for over twenty-one years he has never seen a roof job done, to my knowledge, during the course of the school year with kids in the school. To me that was a disgrace to have it done during school hours. It should have been completed during the summer even if you had to spend more money to expedite it. That young man whom got burned, did he happen to sue the town. Mayor Failace stated that certainly it was not the Borough that did that. 22 Tom Lang stated he really did not know who to point the finger at. He does not read a lot in the paper about what is going on in Carteret. He wishes he could. He does not know why the paper chooses not to print a lot of things about the follow up. Mayor Failace stated that he has the Construction Official, Tony Neibert here explaining the Borough position and what the Borough did on that, and asked if it was at a Councilor Agenda meeting. Tom Lang restated, just judging from what he got in the paper, there is a lot of letters being written back and forth as far as who said it was going to be done during school hours and who said it wasn't going to be done during school hours. He does not get all the facts he has half the facts. Mayor Failace stated evidently the Borough originally was blamed for not allowing permits and so forth and that is why it took so long. He said that is why it went into the school year but that in fact was not true. Tom Lang stated, just something to stipulate facts from rumors and hear say. The other thing is that he was under the impression that if there is a reported accident, let's say with a telephone pole and a truck hits it, the telephone company will more than likely go after the truck dri ver or the guilty party or whose fault the accident was to cover losses on the telephone p01e. He asked if it was reasonable to assume that. Councilmember Quinones stated it is certainly in their discretion as to whether they want to pursue that or not. Tom Lang asked if it would be reasonable to assume that more than likely that is what would happen than not. Councilmember Quinones stated that she would say that is a reasonable assumption she cannot say with certainty they would. Just like we would not necessarily as the Borough pursue certain litigation against certain individuals either. Tom Lang stated this is regarding the guardrails at the entrance to the Turnpike out in front of McDonalds. He said they are a disgrace. They are bent; the one on the CVS side is bent so far over it is actually blocks the walkway. He said again being in the construction field, he knows that when there is an accident on the turnpike involving a guardrail, money does get paid to the turnpike to replace the guardrail. He was just wondering who is going to repair the guardrail. Mayor Failace stated it is private property. Tom Lang asked how do we go after getting that fixed or straightened. If you look at it, you can see what he means. It is curled up and blocking 50% of the walkway. Councilmember Quinones stated that maybe Councilmember Sohayda, who is head of Streets and Roads, can send a letter to some of the county officials. Certainly, She would think that the rest of the 23 NOVEMER 14, 2000 PUBLIC DISCUSSION (Continued) NOVEMBER 14, 2000 PUBLIC DISCUSSION (Continued) Council would support her in asking them to address the problem and see what kind of response we get. Tom Lang said that he thinks if someone takes a look at it and deems it a safety issue, maybe it will get fixed or addressed. The one on the opposite side by McDonalds is not as curled up or blocking any obstruction, but it is just a disgrace when he comes into Carteret and that is the first thing he sees. The empty buildings that are for rent up there in that little mall, there is a ton of them. It is a disgrace, you drive into Carteret after sitting in the truck lane waiting to pay toll, because that Ezpass really has not helped out a whole lot, a little bit but you still get trucks backed up to the second white tank during rush hour. He said just want to let you know that as of December 15, it will be one year that the stop sign out in front of Quick Check as been knocked down, one year that I first started coming here complaining about it. The traffic coming from West Carteret during rush hour happens to make a right hand turn by CVS duck into McDonalds make a U-turn to get on the Turnpike. Just sit there, for fifteen (15) minutes during rush hour. When trucks are backed up over the bridge waiting to get on the turnpike, watch how many cars and trucks go into McDonalds lot make the U-turn and try to gain access to the Turnpike. He would like to know if we could take the "do not enter" truck sign down from that little area because it is doing absolutely no good. Trucks are constantly going through that lot, and you see it every single day. Councilmember Quinones stated that she does not have the exact numbers but she believes there were quite a number of summonses issued recently due to violations in that area. We are trying to at least address it. Tom Lang stated that he hopes so. That is about it, but he would like to know if at the next Council meeting if someone could give him an answer about that stop sign if in fact it is ever going to be addressed. He knows it is on private property and that maybe the landlord is supposed to be responsible. It is my personal opinion that whoever owns that property or whoever is responsible for that sign should make it safe for people coming and going in that area, and in my opinion it is not safe. Mrs. Gaydos from Hermann Street stated that she would like to talk about the Dorothy Street pumping station. She just wanted to tell the Mayor and Council thank you. She has been coming a long time and it has been coming a long time. You have to hold your breath if it is ever to come about. She wondered if they are really going to ever fix Dorothy Street and she has been hoping for this for a long time, so thank you. Mayor Failace said you are welcome. Daphne Miles from 25 Pulaski Street stated to Councilmember Sohayda that she is just a little confused. Are you or are you not a part of that committee that you attended two meetings, one here and one at the First Baptist Church, Steering Committee to start redevelopment. Councilmember Sohayda replied yes. 24 Daphne Miles stated that she does not know what he just received so she is not questioning that. She said she was a little confused, even if you did not read it, don't you see just enough down there to think that we need redevelopment to come in to do something for the area. Councilmember Sohayda stated that Redevelopment did come to take a look at the area. Daphne Miles stated yes it did, but she is just a little confused. Councilmember Sohayda stated he does not want her to be confused, he is trying to help her understand that there is going to be redevelopment down there. Councilmember Quinones stated to Councilmember Sohayda that he did not support it and she thinks that Daphne is questioning why. Daphne Miles stated that Councilmember Sohayda was the start, he was there when people were coming up and voicing their likes, dislikes and things that they would like to see changed. Councilmember Sohayda stated the vote he believes was on the resolution to start the agency, which he just did not have the time to review. Daphne Miles answered, so it is actually the agency you do not know anything about and voted no on. Councilmember Sohayda answered yes that is correct. Daphne Miles answered okay. Councilmember Sohayda answered no you misunderstood. Daphne Miles answered no, she was not misunderstood, she was just confused. Daphne Miles stated to Mayor Failace that she is concerned and she is going to do something if Councilmember-Elect Rios allows her some of his time. She feels that of the two he is the only one approachable. She is going to talk to Councilmember-Elect Rios because she is very concerned. If Councilmember Santoro is so opposed to fixing sewers that are not down Chrome, what is going to happen to these people when it is time to really go down there. She said that every day she is getting phone calls and messages about people waking up on Bergen Street, Mercer and Salem having raw sewage now sitting in their tub. They have to clean this stuff out and we have to spend thousands of dollars on maintenance now. Normally it would only happen a little bit but at this point, it is happening every single day on Bergen Street. People are cleaning out raw sewage. She took pictures of it so it is not a figment of people's imagination it is how they are living. She said now it is starting to scare her, because she does not see Bergen Street ever getting addressed. The people are suffering down there, and she does not think they should have to live like that. The people in the Chrome area have this misconception that they do not pay taxes, but they pay taxes, the pay through the Housing Authority. They should not have to wake up every morning and have that kind of stuff 25 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 PUBLIC DISCUSSION (Continued) NOVEMBER 14, 2000 PUBLIC DISCUSSION (Continued) in their tub. It is just ridiculous and she knows this is not a part of Bergen Street, but if Councilmember Santoro is turning down where the good people live, God knows we are never going to get Bergen Street fixed. Councilmember Quinones stated that she would like to respond to Councilmember Sohayda's statement. She has heard it one too many times up here that you did not get the paperwork in time so you could not approve it, and that is always the fall back position. This was discussed at an Agenda Meeting. She thinks that as a Councilman, on something this important it should be their business to make themselves educated about what is coming up for a vote instead of sitting there relying on the fact that you did not or were not able to read it ahead of time. Council member Sohayda replied thank you. Councilmember Quinones responded you are welcome. Councilmember-Elect Rios of Marion Street stated that he welcomes a meeting with Ms. Miles any time or anyone else about the sewers or any other problem. He asked if someone could explain Ordinance # 00-52. Mayor Failace answered that Ordinance #00-52 was tabled because they need to discuss it some more. John Sudia reiterated his objection to the appropriation of funds for Stowell. He would like to know how much was actually expended so far on this vendetta against our Police Department and Dennis Nagy. Mayor Failace stated that there is no vendetta. This is a litigation that must continue and that is the bottom line. He said does not have that in front of him, but he is sure that the numbers are available in Borough Hall. John Sudia stated that was fine, quite frankly, with that appropriation and the $2500.00 just paid he is still trying to figure out how in various meetings when he asked about these expenditures for Stowell he was told there was no more money for Stowell. Yet, suddenly we have the money for them. Mayor Failace replied that at that point in time, it was true, but the litigation continues, and in order to litigate you need more money to do that. Councilmember Crilley asked Mr. Sudia if he knows what the alternative was. Mr. Sudia said frankly he did not understand why our Borough Attorney could not handle this. He is sure he has been kept abreast of the entire operation. Mayor Failace stated we use professional service lawyers, day in, day out, and not the Borough Attorney. His expertise is in a certain, area all though our Borough Attorney is very capable of doing many things. 26 Mr. Sudia said he has total objection against action that has been taken against our police Department, and he will keep having those objections. He said layoff the cops. Mayor Failace asked Mr. Sudia what actions he was talking about. Nothing has happened to this Police Department, the Police Department is better than it has ever been. The bottom line is that there is no vendetta, nothing has been done to the police Department and nothing is happening to the Police Department. We are in litigation and he will not discuss it any further with him and that is it. Mr. Sudia replied fine when the litigation is over he would come back and talk to Mayor Failace again. Councilmember Quinones stated that she would like to add that since you seem to have such a good relationship with the Police Department, maybe you should talk to the officers and find out how they feel about this particular matter and the individuals involved. She told Mr. Sudia, quite frankly, given the numerous statements you have made about this, she does not feel he has been in touch with the department. Mr. Sudia said he has been in touch with them and he has given them various ideas. Councilmember Quinones said she really does not think so. Upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones and unanimous affirmative vote of the five (5) Councilmembers present, the meeting was closed for public discussion. Mayor Failace stated that he forgot to mention that there was a meeting at the UCUA last week, which other Councilmembers including himself attended, in order to add the trash transfer facility in Linden to be added to the Union County plan. They voted unanimously to bring it in. There was not one bit of care from not one member, there was one no vote, but no care for the residents of Carteret, or Middlesex County in reference to this facility. There will be another meeting next month. Councilmember Santoro stated the hearing would be November 30. Mayor Failace stated that we should load that freeholder's room. We should do everything in our power. As far as he is concern it is a done deal, but we are going to have to take some very drastic steps as far as he is concerned. He has spoken with Mayor O'Brien from Metuchen, he is going to meet with him after the League next week, and they are going to try to come together with the Mayors of Middlesex County and see what can be done or see how drastic things have to get. To a person who is very much against this manifestation and what it will do to Carteret and the rest of Middlesex County, he urges them, if the town has to get a busload to get there, please come. NOVEMBER 14, 2000 PUBLIC DISCUSSION (Continued) MEETING CLOSED FOR PUBLIC DISCUSSION COt1MENTS 27 NOVEMBER 14, 2000 COMMENTS (Continued) ADJOURNED Councilmember Santoro said that she has spoken with Mr. O'Brien the Mayor of Metuchen, who will be getting a bus for the citizens of Metuchen, and she agreed to look into getting a bus for us as well. We will know by the Agenda Meeting next week. This will be the final vote and this will be the last time you will get a chance to speak against this, because after that it will be done. Mayor Failace stated that the way he saw the UCUA meeting ran he must say that he believes it is a done deal, there was no care for Carteret or Middlesex County. He stated that they fought the incinerator so strongly in Carteret that Union County put it in Rahway. We are fighting this and they are going to put it in Linden. He thinks that they must be there in numbers. He does not know what it is going to do, but he is sure they are going to have to take further steps against them. Councilmember Crilley stated that the 30th of November is the same night as one of our Agenda Meetings. Mayor Failace stated that the Agenda Meeting for that night would have to be rescheduled. There being no further business or discussion, upon MMS&C, by Councilmembers Crilley and Quinones and unanimous affirmative vote of the five (5) Councilmembers present, the meeting was adjourned at approximately 8:30 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ~d~~~~~~ KATHLEEN M. BARNEY, RMC ....... Municipal Clerk KMB/tr 28