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Date Approved:6-8.15
Vote: 7-0.1
TOWN OF BREWSTER MINUTES
COMPREHENSIVE WATER PLANNING COMMITTEE (CWPC)
Regular Meeting
Monday, April 27, 2015 at 4:30 pm
Brewster Town Office Building
Chairman Paula Miller convened the CWPC meeting at 4:30 pm in the Brewster Town Office Building with members Dan
Ryan, Adam Curtis, Elizabeth Taylor, Lem Skidmore, John O'Reilly, Russell Schell, and Dave Bennett present.
Absent: Bruce Evans
Also Present: Sue Leven, Jillian Douglass, Jim Gallagher, Nancy Ice
Recording or Taping Notification
The Chair read"As required by the Open Meeting Law we are informing you that the Town will be videotaping this public
meeting. In addition, if anyone else intends to audio or videotape this meeting he or she is required to inform the chair."
Supporting Documents: AGENDA
042715 A Info. packet 1. Citizen Forum
042715_B New comments not 2. Review the IWRMP—Phase III, HWG progress report, 3/2--•-3/9
sent in the Info. Packet. 3. Follow up on April 6 Discussion
Final Work Products online?
Revisions to Scope of Work
More public outreach
Cut back in Consodine Ditch project
Septage and on-site Systems/Cape Cod Bay watershed
Report on Joint BOS meeting with Orleans(Sue or Pat)
4. Board of Health meeting regarding draft regulation&CWPC comments
5. Minutes for approval, 219115&3/23/15
Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate
1. Citizen Forum
Jillian Douglass spoke as a citizen and asked about Article#33 in the Town warrant for a new use. Has the committee
issued an opinion?
• Miller-P—It was discussed at WQRC and they presented an opinion. It has not been brought up with this
committee. She summarized the citizen's petition article for the committee.
• Douglass expressed concern that the"I"zone sits in a water well area. (Zone II) It would be an additional use
allowed in the Industrial Zoning District by Special Permit.
Leven advised that if they want to discuss they would need to schedule another meeting before Monday.
• Taylor was in favor of meeting and discussing. The Planning Board held a public hearing.
• Bennett recused himself from the discussion.
• The Board of Health voted against it.
• There was no further discussion.
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2. Review the IWRMP–Phase III, HWG progress report, 312-319
Comments and Questions
• Taylor–Status of the pond atlas?
o Leven–It is being put together. It is a large document. Leven reviewed and sent edits.
o There will be five copies available. Planning, Library, Conservation, Natural Resources, Health
Department. Leven has an online version available in the building. It will be on the web site (project site).
o Bennett–Maps will be used with storm water and fertilizer regulations. PDF's can be made smaller. He
was in favor of sharing the maps with anyone reviewing the regulations.
o Leven will ask Nelson to post it in a drop box.
o It was not determined if the pond atlas was in final format.
Miller-P noted that most of the tasks are done. Is this committee going to be tracking new tasks under a new scope of
work?
Leven stated it is a good question. This committee is a planning committee and not an implementation committee.
Further discussion is required.
3. Follow up on April 6 Discussion
Revisions to Scope of Work, More public outreach, Cut back in Consodine Ditch project, Septage and on-site
Systems/Cape Cod Bay watershed,
Report on Joint BOS meeting with Orleans Sue or Pat
• Final Work Products are online
o Majority of comments were included.
o Implementation Plan is part of the alternatives
o The Pond Atlas is the only outstanding item
o HWG is working on some changes to the project web site
• Leven--The Consodine Ditch task has been removed.
o A few items were removed because of additional pond work.
o CCC increased grant to$25,000–have asked for more information and outreach
o Golf Course Nitrogen removal methods
o Increase in funding for coordination with: neighboring ponds
o Mill Ponds management plan, same as prior draft
o $200,000 in 2017 budget for Mill Ponds work
o Storm water management by-law and Board of Health regulation –see prior draft
o Outreach and coordination has been increased
o Number of meetings with the Town is the same
o Leven and Miller-P discussed totals– less because Consodine Ditch eliminated
• Taylor asked about RFQ's–No, extension of the existing contract.
o She was concerned about requirements when spending a certain amount of money
o Curtis had a similar question about the process
o Skidmore– reallocation of money already appropriated
o Bennett asked about a Phase IV. The project is moving into an implementation plan
• Leven will put together an executive summary of the Phases.
o Bennett asked if the task assigned to this committee will end.
• Leven noted the plan is done. it is up to the Board of Selectmen
• Miller-P asked about committee's participation in newly funded project or staff only
• Leven stated there maybe another group. The committee may be disbanded. It is being discussed.
o The Pian will be presented at Town meeting but there will not be a vote
• Bennett asked about money for the implementation and the process and Town meeting involvement. This will part
of the master plan for the Town.
• They discussed planning vs. implementation
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• Miller-P noted that the committee would like some discussion about the committee's role going forward. Bennett
agreed.
• Leven will follow up with Pat Hughes
• Bennett asked about the project timeline. The committee continued discussing funding, timelines, and additional
discussions required with the Board of Selectmen.
• Schell asked about money being received from the CCC. Are there conditions?
o Leven—grant work, CCC asked for additional work that was not included in the grant. Nelson is working
on it.
o Leven will share the letter with the CWPC
o Taylor would like to see a scope
o Miller-P asked about a system for monitoring the alternatives—a yardstick for the CCC to evaluate
■ Golf Course monitoring already being done
■ Fertigation—calculations required
■ Fertilizer by-law--how we are following the plan
• Fertilizer and Storm water by-law—credit for meeting requirements over a period of time —TBD by the
Commission
• Bennett noted we are not satisfying the CCC. Grant from DEP to CCC—to the Towns. If we are wrapping up,
alternative analysis noted are being addressed in this Phase. Are these viable alternatives and accepted by the
State.
o Leven agreed.
• Miller-P— Have Brian Dudley come to a meeting.
• Taylor wants only the CWPC
• Schell—Answer to Dave's question is"No". Proposal#3 does not include the option of oyster propagation as a
reef in a protected zone and that is one of the options that is included in the CCC 208 matrix.
o The committee discussed further. Schell wants a reference to oyster reef habitat restoration.
o Bennett--with or without harvesting
o Schell—Benefit determined by the number of the oysters harvested. Not appropriate for reef preserve.
o Miller P—or creation of oyster reef habitats without harvesting—Look at the State policy
• Schell—concurrent work going on with Pleasant Bay and Provincetown center of coastal studies to determine
baseline characteristics of Pleasant Bay. How will this effort combine with that other work? How will they
complement each other? Leven attended a meeting last week in which this was discussed
• Miller-P—Friends of Pleasant Bay is working with Provincetown Center of Coastal Studies. They can ask Hughes
about it.
• Taylor—Under#3, last paragraph, portion of work will be funded through the$25k grant. This needs to be
changed. The grant was originally lower.
• 3. Follow up on April 6 Discussion
• Revisions to Scope of Work, More public outreach, Cut back in Consodine Ditch project, Septage and on-site
Systems/Cape Cod Bay watershed,
• Report on Joint BOS meeting with Orleans (Sue or Pat)—Leven is waiting to hear from Pat Hughes.
o Add as a topic for discussion to the next agenda
4. Board of Health BOH meeting regarding draft regulation & CWPC comments
Skidmore--Comments are individual comments from CWPC members not from the CWPC
Miller-P—4/6 meeting packet, committee did submit comments on 8/26/14
The committee discussed the comments. Miller asked if there are other comments.
Committee Comments:
Miller-P asked Skidmore, if the BOH has a current regulation for septic systems within 300 ft. of a pond. (yes)
Miller-P asked If you did not have this automatic failure issue wouldn't they not be able to require all of these things
mentioned.
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Skidmore -This process started in 2010, CDM, Phase I report—stricter enforcement of the BOH setback.
Now Phase III with HWG, criteria can be applied. The recommendation in Phase II requires specific design standards for
septic systems within 300 feet of the pond. Skidmore read from the recommendation. HWG recommended additional
health regulations and strict variances.
*See Skidmores' submitted comments in the Info. packet
Miller-P referenced the Executive Summary of Phase II. Will people be told they fail and have to upgrade their systems?
Skidmore--Members of the BOH have made the same point,
Miller-P asked if there were additional comments from the committee. There were none.
Skidmore and Miller-P disagreed about what is included in the Phase II report. "Immediate upgrading" was discussed.
vs. having design criteria that could be upgraded without the septic failure
Skidmore stated that the HWG recommendation does not include it. There was general disagreement about comments,
and recommendations between Skidmore and Miller-P.
Leven explained the BOH did not vote they did not want the CWPC comments. The meeting tomorrow night is the BOH
and HWG. Members are welcome to attend. Skidmore is the BOH representative to the CWPC. He explained that
comments have been considered. *There was some general confusion regarding comments and distribution of comments.
CWPC members have sent comments to Leven.
Bennett asked how you differentiate your opinions when speaking at meetings as a resident vs. a committee member.
Leven gave advice.
1) Identify yourself as a citizen who happens to be a member of a committee or a business person.
Miller-P asked how the comments were distributed to the BOH.
Skidmore explained the process of the BOH working with Nelson of HWG.
Leven noted the comments were sent to the BOH from committee members. There have been few BOH meetings
regarding this topic. The BOH is waiting for more information from HWG.
5. Minutes for Approval
2/9/15
Miller-P, Page#2 "septic system is 60%of total load" Is this incorrect? Is it Nitrogen? Make a footnote.
Item#4, PB alternatives final report— looking for 25% for shellfish. Is this correct?
The committee did not approve the minutes. Leven will review the video.
3/23/15
Taylor asked about build out. Should we build-out? Should this be a future topic of discussion? Leven and Taylor
discussed current build out report. A local comprehensive plan is required. Leven, Miller-P, and Taylor discussed build out
actions.
Bennett Made a Motion to approve the minutes of 3/23/15 as written, Taylor Second, All Aye, Vote 8-0-0
Topics the Chair did not reasonably anticipate
Bennett asked about inviting Brian Dudley. Leven will invite him to a meeting.
Discussion, water management agencies, Lower Cape Towns, Chatham, 8:30 am 5/7/15
Orleans Panel, 5/6/15
Leven reminded the committee to call or email if they want a topic added to an agenda.
Curtis 5/9/15 in Chatham, open house at the waste water treatment facility, 59 Sam Ryder Road.
Bennett made a Motion to adjourn, Curtis Second, All Aye, Vote 8-0-0.
The meeting ended at 5:45 pm. The next meeting is 5/11/15.
Respectfully submitted,
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