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An Infonnal Meeting was held by the Mayor and Council of the
Borough of Carteret on Monday, February 3, 1997, Municipal
Court/Police Facility, 230 Roosevelt Avenue, Carteret, New Jersey.
The following were noted present:
Mayor PeterJ. Sica
Councilmember DuPont
" Failace
" Fazekas
" Feingold
" Gutowski
Noted absent was Councilmember Debra Bialowarczuk.
Also noted present was Borough Attorney Craig Coughlin and
Borough Auditor, Gary Higgins.
Mailed to the Home News Tribune, The Star Ledger and posted on
the Bulletin Board on January 30, 1997.
Discuss 1997 Local Municipal Budget.
Gary Higgins said along with Patrick and himself they put the
budget in the statutory budget document fonnat. There is some
departments where there had been no numbers on the worksheets
so they took last years numbers and put in the same appropriation.
It was about fifteen other expense items. They fonnulated the
b;Jdget based on that. We also included the discretionary aid of
fcmr hundred thousand dollars. The state does not allow you to put
any more but you can put in last years amount if you wish and that
is the way the budget was fonnulated.
Mayor Sica asked if they had any other suggestions or have
anything they would like to include or take out, or change. . He
thinks it is a pretty tight budget and said unfortunately they would
have to make some transfers next week. This Council is paying a
bill for $75,000.00 for legal expenses. I(you do that you don't
have to add it into this year's budget. It will decrease our Surplus
Agreement at the end of 1996 so if you don't pay for it today
you won't pay for it this year but you will pay for it next year. It
will effect us in the future. He said the prudent thing to do, in his
opinion, is to pay the whole thing this year out of Surplus and
. hopefully things will change in 1998 and Patrick will be
successful in getting the $75,00.00 for Legal Expenses.
Patrick De Blasio said the Sewer User Fees are being reduced from
4.7 million dollars in 1996 to 4.4 . This budget doesn't include any
salary increases what so ever. All the salaries have been held at
1996 level simply for the purpose of showing where we are at right
now. He asked Gary about the tax rate.
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At approximately 7:34 p.m., Councilmember Bialowarczuk was
noted present.
Gary said it will be about $1.04, approximately a five (5) cent
increase over 1996 of ninety nine cents.
Patrick said he didn't know how much he could save here, the
salaries run about 8.3 million dollars and one percent point is
eighty three (83) thousand dollars and then some, considering
longevity . He said we need to introduce this budget pretty much
by Thursday. He spoke to Gary Stowell and we don't have to put
the salary increases in each and every line item, we can put it in
one line item before negotiations are completed and then we can
disburse them accordingly.
Mayor Sica said you had a number today on the (inaudible) page.
He asked what it was.
Gary Higgins said he had a memo from a while back and there
were four (4) individuals that were amounts listed on the letter and
then the two (2) other ones said to be detennined.
Mayor Sica said they don't put it in their request.
Gary asked if the other four (4) people that have amounts on this
letter have submitted their request.
Mayor Sica said they have, but they can withdraw it too. He said
our problem is if they tell us what theyhave, do we have to put it in
the budget. I know we can bond it but we sure don't want to do
that because if next year the other two go out we will never catch
up.
Gary said if it is known at the time you are completing your
budget you should budget for it because then it wouldn't be
considered American, it wouldn't be unforseen at that point.
Mayor Sica suggested to have a Closed Session Meeting on
Wednesday.
Gary told the Mayor if they could not meet before Thursday they
could do an amendment to the Budget prior to adoption after the
hearing.
Mayor Sica said they will introduce the Budget and then
understand down the line they may amend it. They want to discuss
these particular items in Closed Session because they are part of
the contract negotiations.
Gary said in addition to it by the time you have the Public Hearing
and you are pennitted to amend your (inaudible) would have
expired and you would definitely know who is in the pool to
potentially retire.
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Councilman Gutowski asked Gary if the $1.04 rate included the
pension payments that we are making this year.
Gary said it did and he referred him to page 19, Deferred Charges.
Councilmember Failace asked if that was the money we used last
year.
Mayor Sica said that we were always one (I) year ahead and then
last year we decided why should they let the state play with their
money.
Gary then asked if we were charging it to the budget for the year
that it is due and payable.
Mayor Sica said we were.
Councilmember Gutowski asked about the Sale of Municipal
Assets on page ten (10).
Gary said they already sold the assets and the cash in on hand from
December 31, 1996.
Councilmember Gutowski asked about the first line, Utility
Operated Surplus.
Gary said that is a pre-printed line item and is utilized if there is a
surplus from a utility fund. Trenton pennits you to take surplus out
of those funds from prior years and anticipate it as a revenue to
reduce (inaudible) taxation.
Mayor Sica said except for sewers, it has to be directed to sewers
or sewer accounts.
Gary said other towns have taken from sewers. He doesn't know
why water would be different from sewer, he would have to get
clarification from the Division of Local Government Services.
Patrick De Blasio spoke about Legal Expenses, for 1996 they
budgeted $160,000.00 and they are anticipating the same amount
for 1997.
Gary said it is the same thing on Buildings and Grounds for that
page. He said an increase of $10,000.00 would be put on for
Buildings and Grounds for the new building. The amount would be
$52,500.00.
Patrick went on to Sheet #15, Fire Operating Expenses. This budget
would again be $113,000.00, same as last year.
Councilmember Gutowski said Fire already got raises.
Mayor Sica said they have to put something in the budget for that.
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Deferred (barges
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Assets
Utility Operated
Surplus
Legal Expenses
Buildings and Grounds
Fire Operating
Expenses
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Uniform Fire
Safety Account
Fire Salaries &
Wages
Air Pollution/
Celebration of
Public Events/
Garbage and Trash
Trees
Sr. Citizen
Transportation
Patrick said the next account is the Unifonn Fire Safety Account,
holding at $17,500.00 from 1996 and First Aid Contributions,
which is $20,000.00 held from 1996.
Gary told Patrick to go back to Fire Salaries & Wages, that it is
actually down $50,000.00 from the 1996 charge. He asked if
someone retired.
Patrick said in the accounting for the 1997 wages he believed there
was some money transferred out of the Unclassified Salary
Account into that account and cancelled it to the Trust Fund. He
then went on to Sheet 15b, the Board of Health is also at the 1996
level.
Mayor Sica said they have to put in another $10,000.00 for the
Visiting Nurses, so they have to go to $15,000.00.
Patrick said Air Pollution is 975 to 975. He said on Celebration of
Public Events it would be the same as last year, $55,000.00. He
then said for Garbage and Trash they went from a million dollars
in 1996 to $988,000.00 in 1997.
Councilmember Failace asked if whatever salary increases they
had discussed would go on line ten (10).
Patrick said yes. He then went on to Trees, which was not included
in the Budget, but was a special Line Item for $10,000.00.
Councilmember Gutowski mentioned Sr. Citizen Transportation.
Patrick said it is $6500.00.
Gary asked Mayor Sica if they still want to introduce the Budget
for Thursday night.
Mayor Sica said yes.
Gary said then they won't put anything in for Salaries. He said he
is cautioning them if they are putting in for Discretionary Aid,
Trenton frowns modifying appropriations substantially after the
award of the Discretionary Aid. You could put yourself in jeopardy
of them not pennitting us to make a change. He thinks we should
put something in for salary negotiations.
Mayor Sica said they will have a Closed Session on Thursday
night at 6:00 p.m.
Patrick DeBlasio went to the last section of the budget asking if
anyone had any projects they want to address. This has to be
completed for 1997. We didn't want to address some of these
issues, he asked if they want to get back to him on Thursday.
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Patrick De Blasio said we have $109,000.00 III the Capital
Improvement Fund
Mayor Sica said that is not an accurate number, we could say there
is $45,000.00 coming out ofthere for the bus.
Patrick said we already have in this introduced Budget,
$300,000.00 to go into the Capital Improvement Fund.
Mayor Sica said they have some major road construction that may
have to come out of Capital Improvement or a Bond, but we don't
want to bond. $150,000.00 is needed to fix the Industrial Road.
They also need to do sewer improvements.
All present spoke briefly on this.
Patrick said he is concerned with the Library saying we may need
more money.
Mayor Sica said you would have to take the first 10% out of
Capital Fund.
Councilmember Failace said he called Gary to talk over some of
the numbers and then asked about the allocation of the various
things to the sewers, electricity, telephones, etc.
Patrick said he believes that we allocate as much as possible to the
Sewage Account. Some questions that Gary brought up were for
street lighting for the poles or anything that is not charged to the
Sewer Account and he would review it. He said the only thing that
is not allocated in the insurance is the Pump Station Building and
also a small telephone bill and they can calculate it out but it is not
material at this time. He said all the employee insurances, which is
a large item, are already allocated.
Patrick told Councilmember Failace that he would look with Gary
closely and see if they need anything else towards the sewer on the
adopted Budget.
Gary asked Patrick about the adjustment, the $89,000.00, if that
could be backed off.
Patrick said that is the difference in what we pay the MCUA and
what the actual charges came in at. He said he had just gotten a
certified letter that showed we owe $89,000.00 for 1996 and we
have sufficient monies in the 1996 Budget to handle that so that
goes in Allocated.
Mayor Sica said the MCUA has been ripping off a lot of the older
towns in Middlesex County for years in their charges. He
suggested looking into that to see if we could get a lot of our
money back or at least put a stop to paying a lot of money.
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Sewage Account
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Sewer Improvements
Discretionary Aid
Closed Session
to be held
Gary asked if are looking to amend a Line Item on Sheet 26,
Reserve for Sewer Improvements. He asked if we are going to
adjust the million two thirty eight two eighty two. That is the piece
that 1996 Eaming and Profits were calculated. He asked if we
should adjust that for the $89,000.00 and maybe some other piece
that would represent some other costs.
Councilmember Failace said he thought we should. He thinks we
are going to end up with a pretty big increase. He asked what
happens with what they introduced on the 10th. He questioned what
the State would say that we introduced this budget and then made
so many cuts, what would happen to us.
Gary said only from the standpoint of the Discretionary Aid. He
said we can they could do anything they want with amendments,
but if you are going to jeopardize your Discretionary Aid by giving
them one set of numbers and then pulling back and cutting your
budget. You are more held to the best when you are filing for
Discretionary Aid if you are allotted that money Trenton will not
look favorably at that point if you start modifying the budget
substantially that is why he suggested we put a salary increase in
here. He said if that is the case Thursday night may be too
premature to introduce our Budget, but we have to do it before the
24th, when the Discretionary Aid Application is due.
Councilmember Failace said they were told it had to be done by
the 10th.
Gary said that is the Statutory Date, but the 24th the Budget must
be on file.
Patrick De Blasio said for the last couple of years they tried to
make the 10th.
Gary said he is not saying they should not be done by the 10th, but
in his experience if you got the Budget the way the letter reads to
Trenton by the February 24th, the Discretionary Aide deadline, they
didn't hold you in violation of the statute.
Mayor Sica said there is only a few line items to adjust.
Councilmember Failace commented that these few Line Items are
going to add to it.
Patrick said Gary already brought that down five (5) cents plus any
salary increases.
Councilmember Failace said this creates a problem.
The Governing Body suggested to make the changes in the Budget
at a Closed Session at 6:00 p.m., before the Thursday night
Meeting and Gary agreed to that.
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There being no further business or discussion, upon MMS&C by
Councilmembers Fazekas and Bialowarczuk and unanimous
affinnative vote of the full membership present the meeting was
adjourned at approximately 8:10 p.m.
Rzsubmitted,
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KATHLEEN M. BARNEY V
Municipal Clerk
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FEBRUARY 3, 1997
ADJOORNED