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Home My Public Portal AboutOrd. 586-A - Supporting Docs67/23/91 16:67 12208 323 9336 JUB ENG.,INC: J-U-B ENGINEERS, INC. 250 South Beeahwood Avenue, Suite I • Boise, Idaho 83703 • Telephone (208) 376-7330 TO: Gl l S CAE 11:4 1-- rim Ii]o 2oer-323-g.335 SUBJECT: LA, 't� FAQ (including thts page): ram: TIME: S 's -DI p,,t4 C ; �C C)tr� �_. 1-17 1,24 L `S S= d C� � �l d t-p e = L. i A- G.- Litt te- kt cd i [z.._ - — P va c.. Et If yall car not receive all of the pages, please c•211 203--376--2330, or notify by FAY 208-323-9336. 07/23/91 16:57 V208 323 9336 JUB ENG.,INC. 2 002/002 8-1--4A: =TENSION OF WATER SERVICE: No water service shall be extended to any lot that was. not laid out and platted prior to July 1, 1988, and which lot does not abut a street in which a city water main was installed prior to July-1, 1988, (Ord. 584. 7-22-88) except that as part of a subdivision application. the applicant may extend mains through the project and connecting to City mains if the following conditions are met: 1. That the subdivision application include descriptions of the proposed construction within the subdivision; 2. That the City's water system engineers shall review the proposed main extensions for size, and a determination if the City's water system can support .the fireflow demands for the sizes and types of construction and fire exposure within the intended subdivision; S. That the outcome of the evaluation is positive (i.e., that the City's water system is projected to support, with adequate flows and pressures, the proposed subdivision); 4. That the cost of said evaluation shall be bourne by the applicant; 8. That when aline is permitted above, the developer shall pay the costs for fire hydrant tests (evaluating flow and pressure), recalibration of the City hyvdriliet "Infis,to incorporate the new calibration data and "record drawings". mers.e-P I Frv. o /\ -88 ‘C5 `1Cs� _ CITY OF McCALL P.O. BOX 1065 McCALL, IDAHO 83638 (208)-634.7142 SUBJECT OSAGE: cp (,e� �,p ��c-L3 ORIGINATOR -DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE REPLY TOE SIGNED DATE / 5 G / REPLY • DATE TO: GC/G— - e�y f V L FAX#:.3a-3 ._ ! 3 3-4-- - FROM: J�UC� 57c,4 6363Si/ 3K-?H2L FAX #: _ _ PHONE #: --- DATE:7 151,7 8 CD NO. PAGES ' J.; INCLUDING D THIS PAGE '�' TO: B'erta - j FAX #: Yc2 ' / a 7 FROM: v _ _ DATE:7 / 5 / 0 0 ffoo NO. PAGES - y FAX 363 'V PHONE TTHIISU AGE 2 SIGNED SEND PARTS 1 AND 3 INTACT -PART 1 WILL BE RETURNED WITH REPLY RMCC - 868 - 3 RETURN TO ORIGINATOR 8-1-3 8-1-6 that the City is acknowledged by him to reserve the right to charge and collect such rates, and to impose and enforce the penalties provided for in this Chapter, to change the rate at any time without notice to consumer, and to install such meters or other devices as may be necessary to control and measure the water supplied. Such contract shall specifically provide that the supply of water is subject to all the provisions of this Chapter, or of any other provisions hereafter passed, and that the City shall not be held responsible for any damage by water or otherwise resulting from failure of the plumbing or appliances on the premises supplied with water, nor for any damage caused by the interruption or failure of such supply, nor shall such failure or interruption be held to constitute a breach of contract on the part of the City, nor in any way release the consumer from the performance of all of his obligations as therein set forth. No application for service shall be granted until the contract herein provided for shall have been properly executed. 8-1-4: CONTRACT - EFFECTIVE DATE: All contracts shall be in full force and effect from the date of execution thereof, but rates shall be charged thereunder from the date service is turned on. (1959 Code) 8-1-4A: EXTENSION OF WATER SERVICE: No water service shall be extended to any lot that was not laid out and platted prior to July 1, 1988, and which lot does not abut a street in which a City water main was installed prior to July 1, 1988. (Ord. 534, 7-23-88) 8-1-5: WATER MAIN - CONNECTION: After receipt of a properly filled out application, and of the executed contract, the Watermaster shall cause the premises described in the application, if the same abut upon a main, to be connected with the said main by a service pipe extending at right angles from the main to the property line. Included in such service connection thus constructed shall be a "City curb cock", placed within the -line of the street curb, and the said connection shall thereafter be maintained by and remain the property of the City. (1959 Code) 8-1-6: EXTENSION OF CONNECTION: In case of application for water service upon premises not abutting upon a City main, the City may lay its service connection from the main toward the premises a distance equal to the distance from the main to the property line at right angles therefrom, but in no case a distance greater than forty feet (40'), and there permit connection to be made with a union to a private water main laid and maintained by the owner of the premises desired to be served; or, the City may, in the discretion of the Mayor and City Council, and upon payment into the working fund of the Water Department by the applicant, of a sum sufficient to cover one-half C/2 of the cost thereof, extend the service main toward the premises of the applicant along and beneath the street, alley or highway of the City, but not elsewhere, to a total distance of not exceeding three hundred feet (300'). The payment by the applicant of such portion of the cost of such extension shall in no way vest in such person any ownership therein. 589 2 A«. Add to section 8-1-4A ....except that as part of a subdivision application, the applicant may extend mains through the project and connecting to city mains if the following conditions are met: 1. That the subdivision application include descriptions of the proposed construction within the subdivision; 2. That the city's water system engineers shall evaluate the proposed main extensions for Size, and a determination if the city's Water system can support the fireflow demands . for the sizes and types of construction and fire exposure within the intended subdivision; 9. that the outcome of %he e¥alua%]on is positive, i.e. that the city's water system will support with adequate flows and pressures, the oroaosed Subdivision; &. that the cost of said evamsation shall be bourne by the applicant; 5. that when a line !_ .ereitsed above. the develo9er sna.l pay \he costs for a eis:d test and calibration of the ]inns foe incorporation into the city's water system master clan, a ong with an engineered "as built"drawing. INC. _—.0nue, Suite i • golSe, Idaho 83709 + TelephCne (208) 376-7330 T LECOM NTC7ATTON TRANSMITTAL FAX No. 208-323-9336 G' WANT: Mr' d Cod I-e - SUBJECT: nAM: ?AM (inci ) MESSAGE: 4' FcIvotc t .�, �t�� n�52✓t) �r_�r�t�t�c�,ta�r 1� `^��+ If you do not receive all of the rages, pleas: call 208-376-7330 , or notify by FAX 208-32.3-9336. 250 South Beechwood Avenue, Suite I • Boise, Idaho 83709 • Telephone (208) 378-7330 .Tune ' 18 , 1991 Mr. Arthur J. 'Bud' Schmidt City of McCall P.O. Sox 1065 McCaIl, ID 88638 Re: Payette Lakes Lumber Extension Dear Bud: The following information indicates that the City can only supply slightly over one-half the probable fire flow needed with the current distribution system. However, once the system upgrade is finished, the 2000 gpm target flow can be met. This can be seen by comparing the following values: Without Subdivision + 75 psi @ 1.8 gpm With Subdivision + 75 psi @ 17.1 gpm With 1250 gpm fire + 20 psi @ 1262.8 gpm max. possible With 1500 gpm fire - 2.5 psi @ 1511.9 gpm With 2000 gpm fire -- 78 psi @ 2164.0 gpm target value Max. Fireflow 1250 gpm withexisting system At least in this case, the major factor influencing the discussion of project viability would seem to be fireflows. I suggest that the City consider wording their modification to the ordinance such that the following intent is included: 1. That an intended extension and demand is evaluated, probably ,with the model, during the conceptual stage to determine if the concept is compatible with the present distribution abilities. Require basic firefiow data. 2. If the Model indicates that the extension can be accommodated, inform the Owner that the City will be Killing to look in-depth at complete project plans, The City may want to limit the Owner to specific flows as indicated by Modeling. S. After project completion, require field testing such that calibration of the model is continually updated, thus remaining reliable for future evaluation. This should allow the City the freedom it needs to allow for selected and timely growth. If you have any questions, please contact me. Sincerely, J-U-B INFERS, Inc. Thoma J. Moore, E.I.T. TJM:Is OCNU VVNI1G a rim%I.VrICO IN IgVI. WPIIIC \.Vf T.YYILL MG MC.1 URIVCIJ tlYII PI RGrLT. TO i k�-6Z-- FROM CITY OF McCALL P.O. BOX 1065 McCALL, 1DAHO 83638 (208)-634.7142 SUBJECT AGE: �PU�.�G' C.) G ORIGINATOR -DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE REPLY TO�� SIGNED DATE 7,75� � REPLY SIGNED SEND PARTS I AND 3 INTACT -PART 1 WILL BE RETURNED WITH REPLY RMCC - 868 - 3 ORIGINATOR'S COPY 8-1-3 8-1-6 that the City is acknowledged by him to reserve the right to charge and collect such rates, and to impose and enforce the penalties provided for in this Chapter, to change the rate atany time without notice to consumer, and to install such meters or other devices as may be necessary to control and measure the water supplied. Such contract shall specifically provide that the supply of water is subject to all the provisions of this Chapter, or of any other provisions hereafter passed, and that the City shall not be held responsible for any damage by water or otherwise resulting from failure of the plumbing or appliances on the premises supplied with water, nor for any damage caused by the interruption or failure of such supply, nor shall such failure or interruption be held to constitute a breach of contract on the part of the City, nor in any way release the consumer from the performance of all of his obligations as therein set forth. No application for service shall be granted until the contract herein provided for shall have been properly executed. 8-1-4: CONTRACT - EFFECTIVE DATE: All contracts shall be in full force and effect from the date of execution thereof, but rates shall be charged thereunder from the date service is turned on. (1959 Code) 8-1-4A: EXTENSION OF WATER SERVICE: No water service shall be extended to any lot that was not laid out and platted prior to July 1, 1988, and which lot does not abut a street in which a City water main was installed prior to July 1, 1988. (Ord. 534, 7-23-88) 8-1-5: WATER MAIN - CONNECTION: After receipt of a properly filled out application, and of the executed contract, the Watermaster shall cause the premises described in the application, if the same abut upon a main, to be connected with the said main by a service pipe extending at right angles from the main to the property line. Included in such service connection thus constructed shall be a "City curb cock", placed within the -line of the street curb, and the said connection shall thereafter be maintained by and remain the property of the City. (1959 Code) 8-1-6: EXTENSION OF CONNECTION: In case of application for water service upon premises not abutting upon a City main, the City may lay its service connection from the main toward the premises a. distance equal to the distance from the main to the property line at right angles therefrom, but in no case a distance greater than forty feet (40'), and there permit connection to be made with a union to a private water main laid and maintained by the owner of the premises desired to be served; or, the City may, in the discretion of the Mayor and City Council, and upon payment into the working fund of the Water Department by the applicant, of a sum sufficient to cover one-half (1/2) of the cost thereof, extend the service main toward the premises of the applicant along and beneath the street, alley or highway of the City, but not elsewhere, to a total distance of not exceeding three hundred feet (300'). The payment by the applicant of such portion of the cost of such extension shall in no way vest in such person any ownership therein. 589 Add to section 8-1-4A ....except that as part of a subdivision application, the applicant may extend mains through the project and connecting to city mains if the following conditions are met: 1. That the subdivision application include descriptions of the proposed construction within the subdivision; 2. That the city's water system engineers shall evaluate the proposed main extensions for size, and a determination if the city' s water system can support the fireflow demands for the sizes and types of construction and fire exposure within the intended subdivision; 3. that the outcome of the evaluation is positive, i.e. that the city' s water system will support with adequate flows and pressures, the proposed subdivision; 4. that the cost of said evaluation shall be bourne by the applicant; 5. that when a line is permitted above, the developer shall pay the costs for a field test and calibration of the lines for incorporation into the city's water system master plan, along with an engineered "as built"drawing. ENGINEERS, INC. 250 South Beechwood Avenue, Suite I • Boise, Idaho 83709 ' Telephone (208) 376-7330 June 18, 1991 Mr. Arthur J. 'Bud'ISchmidt City of McCall P.O. Box 1065 McCaIl, ID 88688 Re: Payette Lakes Lumber Extension Dear Bud: The following information indicates that the City can only supply slightly over one-half the probable fire flow needed with the current distribution system. However, once the system upgrade is finished, the 2000 gpm target flow can be met. This can be seen by comparing the following values: Without Subdivision + 75 psi 6 1.8 gpm With Subdivision + 75 psi to 17.1 gpm With 1250 gpm fire + 20 psi @ 1262.8 gpm max. possible With 1500 gpm fire - 2.5 psi @ 1511.9 gpm With 2000 gpm fire - 78 psi @ 2164.0 gpm target value Max. Fireflow 1250 gpm with existing system At least in this case, the major factor influencing the discussion of project viability would seem to be fire lows. I suggest that the City consider wording their modification to the ordinance such that the following intent is included: 1. That an intended extension and demand is evaluated, probably with the model, during the conceptual stage to determine if the concept is compatible with the present distribution abilities. Require basic fir_eflow data. 2. If the model indicates that the extension can be accommodated, inform the Owner that the City will be willing to look in-depth at complete project plans. The City may want to limit the Owner to specific flows as indicated by modeling. 8. After project completion, require field testing such that calibration of the model is continually updated, thus remaining reliable for future evaluation. This should allow the City the freedom it needs to allow for selected and timely growth. If you have any questions, please contact me. Sincerely, J-U-B INEEERS, Inc. ThomaJ. Moore, E.I.T. TJM:Is CITY OF McCAL P.U. BOX 1065 McCALL, IDAHU 83638 (208)-6M-7142 SUBJECT fia 5--g4 jf MESSAGE- 1 ORIGINATOR -DO NOT WRITE BELOW THIS LINE REPLY TO n SIGNED Ge-n DATE �. -Y REPLY SIGNED SEND PARTS I AND 3 INTACT -PART 1 WILL BE RETURNED WITH REPLY MCC - 868 - 3 ORIGINATOR'S COPY ORDINANCE NO. 586 �r AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO WATER SERVICE; AMENDING SECTION. 8-1-4A OF THE VILLAGE CODE OF McCALL, IDAHO PROVIDING AN EXCEPTION TO THE PROHIBITION AGAINST EXTENSION OF WATER SERVICE AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. BE IT ORDAINED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF McCALL, IDAHO, AS FOLLOWS: Section 1: That Section 8-1-4A of the Village Code of McCall, Idaho, be, and the same hereby is, hereby amended to read as follows: ti 8-1-4A: EXTENSION OF WATER SERVICE: No water service shall k be extended to any lot that was not laid out and platted prior.to July 1, 1988, and which lot does not abut a street in which a City water main was installed prior to July 1, 19887 , except that water mains may be extended thru and connected to the city water fa system in subdivisions platted; accepted and filed subsequent to / the 1st day of August, 1991, if the',following bonditiono are met; 1. That the subdivision appli°cation include descriptions of the proposed construction{ within the subdivision;_ �J` l/, . 2. That the city's water System engineers shall, -evaluate the proposed main extension§ for size, and a determination if the city's water system can support .the f iref low demands for the sizes and types of construction and/fire exposure Within the intended subdivision;_ '' 3. That such evaluation shows that the city's water system can provide the proposed subdivision with adequate flows and pressures for the proposed construction; 4. That the cost of said evaluation shall be borne by the applicant; . 5. That when a line is permitted under the above conditions, the applicant shall pay the costs of a field test and calibration of the lines for incorporation into the city's water system master plan and shall furnish an engineer's "as built" drawing. Section 2. EFFECTIVE DATE. This ordinance shall be in full force and effect from and after August 1, 1991. Mayor Attest: City Clerk