HomeMy Public PortalAbout01.16.18 MRA MinutesCity of McCall
McCall Redevelopment Agency
Minutes
January 16, 2018 — 8:00 am
Legion Hall
216 E. Park Street
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Bob Giles, Monty Moore, Colby Nielsen, and Rick Fereday were present. Bob Youde, Shelly Johnson
and Nic Swanson were absent. City Treasurer Linda Stokes, Community Development Director
Michelle Groenevelt, Parks and Recreation Director Kurt Wolf, and Permit Technician Rachel
Santiago-Govier were also present.
CONSENT AGENDA
• Minutes from November 21, 2017
• US Bank Invoice
Member Giles motioned to approve the consent agenda. Member Nielson seconded the motion. All
members voted aye and the motion carried.
NEW BUSINESS
• MRA cash flows and financials
Treasurer Stokes presented the flows and financials.
• Shoreline Improvements project North of Mile High Marina - Kurt Wolf
Mr. Wolf presented the rendering and location of the project near the log boom, north of the
marina and between Brown Park. He discussed the motivation to bring this project to MRA
because it most closely matches their vision. He is looking at a timeline of the spring of 2019.
They have removed many tons of debris, and cleaned up the shoreline in that area with
cooperation from sanitation. One possible concept is to have a platform for work on the lake,
emergency salvage work, fireworks as well as recreation during the summer. An additional dock
proposed by Brett Armacost of McCall Lake Cruises. An Olympic length swimming area was
mentioned as a possibility. Discussed problems with historic or current dock construction and
disposal. A permitting process was discussed for docks. Buoy line is already purchased. Cost
estimates of $150,000 for large dock, $60,000 for swim plat, and the dock on north end $70,000
were given. Ms. Groenevelt discussed a previous 2006 project to improve waterfront areas in
the city and how the current proposal fits in with previous planning concepts.
McCall Redevelopment Agency January 16, 2018
Minutes
Member Nielson asked about the possibility of public motorized dock access so that the
proposal could be funded with an IDL grant.
Member Moore asked about maintaining the dog swim area.
Mr. Wolf stated that the no uses will be changed. He will be contacting Mile High Marina for
funding cooperation. Possible sources of funding include, Valley County Waterways grant, in
kind from dock memberships, and MRA. Waterways grant requires 51% motorized usage and a
letter of support from the county.
• Boat House & Events Center Concept (Spruce St. ROW) —Jim Pace
Susan and Jim Pace presented and proposal to build a mixed use building for personal non -
motorized watercraft storage and public meeting space on city owned property at 1400 Mill St.
A two story building is proposed with the upstairs to be utilized for public meeting space for
dancing, weddings, city recreation department and local non -profits. He has spoken with
several local wedding planners and found out that they turned down 300 weddings in this
community last year and therefor sees a need. Would be similar to Barber Park Education and
Events center in Ada County in Boise. He is proposing a city owned building for community
events that is subsidized by private usage and event fees.
Chairman Fereday asked about the snow storage that the property is usually used for. Asked
about the adjacent vacant lot. The lot to the North is private and came through planning and
zoning for a mixed use. Asked about the possibility of purchasing the property for a parking lot.
There will be several spots for unloading. Thinks a public decision would help decide how the
project is owned and funded. Bond issue. Next step would be a more in depth prospectus and a
work session with City Council.
Member Nielson asked about occupancy. Mr. Pace said he estimates 200 seated maybe less
with a commercial kitchen. Sink and counter space and ice machine was suggested by event
professionals and additional city storage space.
Mr. Wolf spoke to the parks and rec department that has inherited a lot of infrastructure and
programming over the last several years and states that their budget and staffing has changed
very little.
Member Youde asked about the possibility of making this a private endeavor. Because it is on
public land it has to have a public usage and 100 year lease. City would have to sell the property
at public auction in the name of public use.
Susan spoke to the fact that there is no public non -motorized boating access on Payette Lake.
McCall Redevelopment Agency January 16, 2018
Minutes
Ms. Groenevelt said that the other source of funding that hasn't been discussed would be
grants. A work session with McCall City Council.
Member Giles is interested in collaborative efforts like Private/Public partnerships. Concerned
about maintenance and operating costs.
• Inclusion in the updated RAI brochure — Michelle Groenevelt
Ms. Groenevelt presented a request from RAI for cities to be featured as a community project or
profile in this brochure. Member Giles and Chairman Fereday spoke in support of the idea.
OLD BUSINESS
• Pine Street Parcel Letter to close out - Michelle Groenevelt
Ms. Groenevelt presented a letter to Barbara Stoddard to the board. She will send a revised
letter and include the input from the board.
• New urban renewal district work session with City Council
o Tentatively scheduled for February 22 at 5:30-6 pm in Legion Hall
o Meghan Sullivan Conrad from Elam & Burke, P.A. will attend
REPORTS
• McCall In Motion Update
• McCall Housing Strategy Update
• As part of National Volunteer Week, the Clerk's Department hosts a breakfast and training
to all City Committee volunteers. This year's event will take place April 3, 2018 (Location
TBD).
NEXT MEETING
• March 20, 2018
Member Nielson asked about the closing out of the district with regard to the proposals that were heard
today. Ms. Groenevelt said that there would be difficulty in renewing bond for this district because the
vision has mostly been implemented therefore there is no slum and blight. There can be about a year
when closing out the district. Chairman Fereday asked that Linda do an analysis on calling out bonds vs
letting them run out.
McCall Redevelopment Agency January 16, 2018
Minutes
Member Moore motioned to adjourn. Member Giles seconded the motion. All members voted in favor
and the motion carried.
Signed: March 20, 2018
a
Rick Fereday
MRA Chair
Attest:
Michelle enelt
Community Development Director
McCall Redevelopment Agency January 16, 2018
Minutes
1 of 6
MCCALL PUBLIC BOATHOUSE, EDUCATION AND RECREATION CENTER
Propct Ideas anc
\otes
Prepared for: McCall City Council, Downtown McCall Redevelopment Agency, McCall Parks and Recreation
Committee
Prepared by: Jim Pace
January 15, 2018
Version: 1.2.1
Above photo courtesy of the S;reater Hartford CT Jaycees Boathouse, Room shown is 52' wide x 43' deep.
2of6
MCCALL PUBLIC BOATHOUSE, EDUCATION AND RECREATION CENTER
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
Objective
To build and sustainably operate a publicly accessible center for meetings/events/education and recreation,
combined with year-round non -motorized light watercraft storage, on the city owned parcel between 1400 and
1304 Mill Road in McCall. This building would support a complementary city project to build docks for non -
motorized watercraft access to Payette Lake, on city property immediately north of the Mile High Marina and
extending towards Brown Park.
Goals
1. Support McCall Parks and Recreation plans to build light watercraft docks on the waterfront facing the
property. Provide paddlers and rowers with a safe, easily accessible space to store boating gear and enter/
exit the lake.
2. Provide critically needed event, education and meeting space, available for rent to both private and public
entities.
Steps in the process
1. Develop community support, enthusiasm and funding for the design and construction of the boathouse/
recreation center.
2. Determine the best arrangement for building ownership. Owned and operated by the Parks and Recreation
Department? A collaboration between the city and local philanthropic and/or sports clubs? A private/public
partnership?
3. After extensive community participation, complete a design. Attached drawings are intended to be idea
generators only, not finished plans.
4. Establish ongoing operational support through event space and boathouse storage rentals.
Project Outline
The parcel lends itself to a two story design, with preliminary architectural programming indicating a building
approximately 100 feet long on the East-West axis and 52 Feet wide on the North -South axis. The ground floor, a
daylight basement emptying on to E Lake Street, provides an opportunity for a garage door accessed, no -step
approach to the proposed city docks. These docks will be designed to accommodate stand up paddle boards,
canoes, kayaks, rowing sculls, and other human powered watercraft, plus provide a protected lap swimming
space on the dock side facing the shore. Community members could rent rack space for their watercraft from the
building management and store their craft year-round.
3of6
MCCALL PUBLIC BOATHOUSE, EDUCATION AND RECREATION CENTER
Weddings and other privately catered events would most likely wish to use the Center for receptions, parties, and
the like. The Center's scheduling calendar will need to balance conflicting needs, especially in the busy summer
season. The author recommends following the path taken by ADA county in the management of the Barber Park
Education and Events Center, where city Parks and Recreation employees would both manage events and
oversee maintenance of the Center.
The upper floor of the building is envisioned to consist primarily of a large, approximately 4350 square feet
danceable floor, bathrooms and caterer's preparation space. Storage for tables, chairs, and maintenance may be
included on the upper floor, but might also be shunted downstairs and made available by freight elevator. Event
rentals will provide a substantial portion of the building's income, making the building self sustaining, perhaps
enough to finance construction and lessen the need for donations and grants. The upper floor provides handicap
accessible, flat access from Mill Street, and is located less than a block from the city owned parking area on Fir
street. That parking lot is envisioned to be the primary parking solution, with shuttle services to local
accommodations arranged to lessen the need for on -site or nearby parking.
The location provides the City of McCall's Parks and Recreation Department with an excellent venue for it's own
educational and recreation activities.
1
4
Site images and concepts
An overhead view of the site,
courtesy of the City of McCall
Arcview GIS webpage
4of6
MCCALL PUBLIC BOATHOUSE, EDUCATION AND RECREATION CENTER
One possibility for a building style.
As a public space with a focus on the upper floor
lake view, a need for a clear span dancing area, and
the desirability of an outside balcony facing the lake,
this author naturally brings to mind the chalet
vernacular. Consider a chalet's shallow slope roof
line, large eve overhangs, a balcony facing E Lake
Street, plus a concrete base floor with natural wood
second floor The intense evening sunlight entering
the events space warrants careful consideration of
roof overhangs and angles.
Big windows facing the lake. Sliding boat access
doors underneath. A deck for ideal for pictures.
Andy Laidlaw has kindly sketched some design ideas, included as addendum to this document.
A plan could include traditional chalet details
Or follow a more subdued, minimalist aesthetic
5of6
MCCALL PUBLIC BOATHOUSE, EDUCATION AND RECREATION CENTER
BUDGET
Initial ideas on cost
Based on a 100' x 52', two story floor plan, including a 16' x52' upper deck. 84 feet of interior length.
Description Quantity sqft Unit Price Cost
Ground floor cement construction boat storage
Main floor events center, including bathrooms, storage, AV
Boat storage racks, events center tables, chairs, other equip
Deck plus deck roof
Landscaping, parking, paving
Total
4368 $
120 . $ 524,160
4368 $ 260
8736 $
832 $
2000 $
$ 1,135,680
25 $ 218,400
50 $ 41,600
20 $ 40,000
$ 1,959,&W
Cost estimates based on ballroom and meeting space costs, from
nttp://hvsdesignservices. com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2013-Cost-Estimating-Guide-. pdf
and from a 12/7/2017 interview with Scott Koburg, director, Ada County's Parks and Recreation Department and
Kevin Bell, events coordinator, Barber Park Education and Events Center. For comparison, the similar sized Barber
Park center was completed in 2006 for just under $2 million, but included much more extensive site development
costs.
Initial Ideas on yearly operating income and expenses
•
;Description _ Quantity • rates _ _. !Cost
Retail 2nd floor event rentals/year (weddings, reunions, etc)
24 hour rental.
basement rack space rental/linear ft/month ® $1/ft. 1800
linear feet of rack space available if Center storage takes up a
portion of the basement.
Discounted 2nd floor event rentals/year for local non -profits.
24 hour rental.
50 $
12'$
1,800 $
1,800 $
36 ; $ 600
90,000
21,600
$ 21,600
6of6
MCCALL PUBLIC BOATHOUSE, EDUCATION AND RECREATION CENTER
Description
Quantity rates Cost
Weekday only, 8 hour rentals for meetings, etc.
City Parks and Recreation events 8/month on average
Utility expenses/month plus cleaning supplies
48 : $
96 $
12
400 $
19,200
0
(800)
0
$ (9,600)
Personnel expenses, 1 FTE event coordinator and .5 FTE
cleanup. ($4800+$1200)
12
(6,000)
$ (72,000)
Total available to pay off a bond or mortgage
$ 70,800
Wage rates taken from "Occupational Employment and Wages, May 2016 13-1121 Meeting, Convention, and
Event Planners" https://www.b1s.qov/oes/current/oes131121.htm and https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/
oes372011.htm "Occupational Employment and Wages, May 2016 37-2011 Janitors and Cleaners, Except
Maids and Housekeeping Cleaners" for government employees.
Notes on income and expenses
Compare $1800 for a 24 hour rental to the Ada County Barber Park Education and Events Center rate of $2540
and a weekday 5 hour rental rate of $654. In its first years of operation, the Barber Park center averaged 90 24-
hour rentals a year. It now handles about 120. Ada county is anticipating raising it's rates this year, and claims to
be the most cost effective facility of it's type in its market. The Barber Park center charges the same rate to all
customers except those approved specifically by ADA county commissioners, for instance, county government
events.
A significant portion of the Barber Park facility's income comes from a percentage of the receipts of their exclusive
licensed alcohol vendor contract. Facility security is provided by a private security firm that services all Ada county
property. Center renters pay an extra $15/hour per security personnel for event coverage. All events must have
one security personnel present, and those serving alcohol must have a minimum of two.
1.5 FTE may be inadequate to properly manage and maintain this new facility. The Barber Park center requires 2
FTE, with and additional .5 FTE in the summer peak season working a 12pm-8am shift to clean the center
between back to back rentals.
I, •
1.031,11.1V
-rr
uiaoL
1931M JW
11
"
Illil Ills! 11111
111.11
11111I111•
I!I! I'll)
■i ■■
ON ■■
Illli Holm ' '
•• •
••■ ■ 1!
•
/IAA MO
N
w
g
N
w
1a-21 va•
,r�
\pea<
1 B8,_0„ — — --
-- i---i---—r-—--—r--- -
—�
I1--
1
i
UNE' OF EA`✓E
'.
w
1
OATHOUSE BELOW
EETING SPACE ABOVE
�IAI�
ENTRY
I 1
I
/T � I
I I I 3 b
_L-----------1-- I------—-----��r ----�
I \ I '
i
8112' PLAN
ue• - r-d
10017
N+CMTEC, C.c.*
p1 e6
P
1-'
■ ■ ■ e
PATIO BOATHOUSE
■ ■ ■ ■
■
•
■
s
�GNANGING
.JANITOR
LOWER LEVEL FLOOR PLAN
iawi7
n a-
NWw*ECT .Mena
p1.3
MAIN LRVEL FLOOR rL4N
ia,9/n
A
APGNITEGT itAmniYu
p1 04