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Home My Public Portal AboutEmailing 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes IPM.Note Emailing: 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes Vivian Woods Jimmy C. Brown Vivian Woods EX /O=FIRST ORGANIZATION/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=JCBROWN Emailing: 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes EX /O=FIRST ORGANIZATION/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=VWOODS EX /O=FIRST ORGANIZATION/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=VWOODS Received: from cotis5.coti.local ([fe80::982:deff:331c:2983]) by cotis5.coti.local ([fe80::982:deff:331c:2983%10]) with mapi; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 08:34:21 -0400 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary From: "Jimmy C. Brown" <JCBrown@cityoftybee.org> To: Vivian Woods <VWoods@cityoftybee.org>, Diane Schleicher <dschleicher@cityoftybee.org> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 08:34:20 -0400 Subject: Emailing: 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes Thread-Topic: Emailing: 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes Thread-Index: Act5wRr2I6rekRtNQ3KTAdwP4DFi8Q== Message-ID: <F01EA3DC349D8E41AB0379ECFBBC5AF2504AA11B6F@cotis5.coti.local> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SCL: -1 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <F01EA3DC349D8E41AB0379ECFBBC5AF2504AA11B6F@cotis5.coti.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Jimmy C. Brown EX /O=FIRST ORGANIZATION/OU=FIRST ADMINISTRATIVE GROUP/CN=RECIPIENTS/CN=JCBROWN Vivian Woods; Diane Schleicher Emailing: 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes 9-23-10 PSC Minutes approved 10-28-10 <F01EA3DC349D8E41AB0379ECFBBC5AF2504AA11B6F@cotis5.coti.local> Emailing%3A 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes.EML Vivian Woods Vivian Woods en-US 5555555 00000002COTIS5/o=First Organization/ou=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=JCBrown 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes Internal 04 cotis5.coti.local 12.0 Emailing: 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes Follow up Microsoft Exchange Vivian Woods EX /O=FIRST ORGANIZATION/OU=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=VWoods VWoods@cityoftybee.org VWoods Vivian Woods Vivian Woods Diane Schleicher EX /O=FIRST ORGANIZATION/OU=First Administrative Group/cn=Recipients/cn=dschleicher dschleicher@cityoftybee.org dschleicher Diane Schleicher Diane Schleicher 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes.docPublic Safety Committee Minutes September 23, 2010 Meeting called to order at 17:00 Hours Present: City Council; Wanda Doyle, Shirley Sessions, Frank Schuman Jonathan Lynn Planning, Major Bob Bryson TIPD, Chief Sasser, TIFD Joe Wilson DPW, City Manager Diane Schleicher, City Attorney Edward Hughes, Clerk of Council Vivian Woods Approval of the minutes from the previous meeting – Unanimous Approval New Business: I- Juvenile Crime Ordinance: Review of past correspondence received on juvenile crime from 2008 Wanda Doyle – Review of Savannah Ordinance Edward Hughes – District Attorney is reluctant to prosecute parents for restitution in cases involving Juvenile Crimes Major Bryson- Juvenile Court is quick in the prosecution of juvenile’s, good Court system. Edward Hughes- Juvenile Court already requires restitution; do not recommend we adopt an ordinance for this. Shirley Sessions- Does not believe we need to create an ordinance that may not be inforcible unless there is a great need. Diane Schleicher – Who is responsible for Juvenile Restitution? Major Bryson – The Judge Frank Schuman – Not seen a lot of juveniles on the street. Edward Hughes – There is a state statue where parents are liable for juvenile property crime destruction. Wanda Doyle- No reason to move on Ordinance Majority present were ok not to move forward with this, City Attorney will respond to e-mail received from a resident. II – Beach Rules Review: “ Keep off the Jetties Rule” Keep Off Jetties Rule Wanda Doyle – Support PD on writing tickets to people to keep off jetties. Does ordinance need to be re-written? Major Bryson – A lot of cases have been made the average fine is about $300.00 this is a safety issue to keep people off the jetties to prevent injuries. Wanda Doyle- Who sets fine? Edward Hughes- Set by cash bond, council can change fine if so desired. Wanda Doyle- Should we reduce fine? Edward Hughes- No, not an unreasonable fine Diane Schleicher- Add language to signs, City Ordinance number and the amount of fine, Joe Wilson will add additional language to the signs. Old Business: I- Highway 80 Challenge Meeting: Monday September 27, 2010 15:00 @ City Hall Wanda Doyle- Highway 80 challenge is about traffic congestion, and alternative transportation methods; comments are requested and will be reviewed by the group in making decisions. There was some discussion on the similarities and differences in the CORE Meetings for bridge replacement and the Highway 80 challenge meetings that discuss transportation issues, some clarification is needed. Shirley Sessions will meet with the CORE Group and Highway 80 Challenge Group for details and report back at the next PSC meeting on 10-14-10. II – Engineering Proposal for New Cross-walk Locations: Review proposal from RS&H Diane Schleicher – Purchase Order should be issued soon for McKenzie project to begin, Highway 80 & Second Avenue is not in the budget. The Savannah Bicycle Campaign is in favor of Second Avenue Crosswalk III –“ Bikes Belong “ Grant Application in for 2nd Avenue Diane Schleicher -There is a grant and we should know something in 30-45 days. IV – Kite Boarding – 19th and Inlet Safety Concerns – Chief Sasser Chief Sasser invited Mac Kitchens a local Kite Boarder to speak about some of the Safety Concerns: Mac Kitchens – 12-15 Kite Boarders present in the 19th Street & Inlet area at one time would be considered a high number. Some of the Kite Boarders are Instructors and live on Tybee. The majorities of the kite boarders look out for each other and watch over those with no experience including swimmers. Chief Sasser- We should not change the ordinance for one complaint on Kite Boarders. The Kite Boarders have provided assistance to the Fire Department and Ocean Rescue involving swimmers in distress and getting people from the sandbars. The Kite Boarders that I observed are a good group of locals who practice safety. Chief Sasser – The Lifeguards do receive some complaints from swimmers in regards to the surfers in the 17th Street area. No actions on Kite Boarders will be taken at this time, monitor situation. Shirley Sessions- Who will respond to complaint letter and safety concerns about the Kite Boarders? Wanda Doyle- I will Mac Kitchens will be contacted in regards to any future complaints. V – Butler Avenue – 4 Way Stop Sign Review Traffic Statistics Review Traffic and Speed Statistics for Seventeenth Street East of Butler Avenue. The Speed and Traffic Statistic showed 80 % of the traffic obeyed the speed limit whereas 20% disobeyed the speed limit; this information was provided by the Police Department at the request of the City Manager. Diane Schleicher - For Discussion - Should Butler Avenue and 17th Street be made a 4 way Stop or should there be speed bumps erected on 17th Street East of Butler Avenue? Chief Sasser – Already a bottleneck at this location, a 4 Way Stop will increase the bottleneck. Joe Wilson – No justification for cost of Speed Breakers, only 20% or in violation. Major Bryson – Recognized Lt. Jonathan Hagen in audience who stated the radar permit is being renewed at this time, streets must meet certain criteria to run radar. Shirley Sessions – Should we spend $2,400.00 for speed bumps, have there been any accidents? Diane Schleicher- will provide at the next PSC Meeting on 10-14-2010 times of the speeding violations and any report of accidents. Adjournment .doc 9-23-1~1.doc 9-23-10 Public Safety Committee Minutes.doc