HomeMy Public PortalAbout12/09/1983COMMISSIONERS
William F. Koch. Jr., Mayor
Joel Hunter, Vice Mayor
Alan 1. Armour
Robert J. Dlxson
Brian Pfelller
1. Roll Call.
TOWN OF GULF STREAM
PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA
2. Approval of Minutes: November 11, 1983 Ccnmission Meeting
3. Financial Reports, November, 1983
4. Presentation of Police Report.
5. Presentation of Town Planning Board Report.
A. A request by Martin O'Boyle for final site plan
review for construction of a new single family
dwelling on property described as Lot 6, Hidden
Harbour Estates and located at 19 North Hidden
Harbour.
6. Discussion on dredging.
7. Discussion on Long Range Planning Project.
8. Comments and Recommendations from Commission Members.
9. Public Requests or Comments from the floor.
10. Adjol3n vent.
MAIL ADDRESS
246 SEA ROAD
GULF STREAM, FLORIDA
33444
TEL.: GULF STREAM
276 -5116
TOWN COMMISSION MEETING
Town Manager
WILLIAM E. GWYNN
December 9 1983
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ATown Clerk
BARBARA Deputy
GWYNN
Chief of Police
JAMES GREER
AGENDA
2. Approval of Minutes: November 11, 1983 Ccnmission Meeting
3. Financial Reports, November, 1983
4. Presentation of Police Report.
5. Presentation of Town Planning Board Report.
A. A request by Martin O'Boyle for final site plan
review for construction of a new single family
dwelling on property described as Lot 6, Hidden
Harbour Estates and located at 19 North Hidden
Harbour.
6. Discussion on dredging.
7. Discussion on Long Range Planning Project.
8. Comments and Recommendations from Commission Members.
9. Public Requests or Comments from the floor.
10. Adjol3n vent.
TOWN OF GULF STREAM
PALM BEACH COUNTY. FLORIDA
COMMISSIONERS
William F. Koch, Jr., Mayor
Joel Hunter, Vice Mayor
Alan 1. Armour TOWN COMMISSION MEETING
Robert J. Dixson
Brian Pleifler
December 9, 1983
MINUTES
1. Roll Call.
Present: William F. Koch, Jr. Mayor
Robert J. Dixson Commissioner
Brian Pfeifler Commissioner
Absent: Joel Hunter
Alan Armour
Also Present:
William Gwynn
Gene Caputo
Barbara Gwynn
John Randolph
James Greer
William Mayer
Vice Mayor
Commissioner
Town Manager
Town Management Assistant
Town Clerk
Town Attorney
Chief of Police
chairman, Planning Board
2. Approval of Minutes: November 11, 1983 Commission Meeting
MAIL ADDRESS
246 SEA ROAD
GULF STREAM, FLORIDA
33444
TEL.: GULF STREAM
276 -5116
Town Manager
WILLIAM E. GWYNN
Deputy Town Clerk
BARBARA GWYNN
Chief of Police
JAMES GREER
A motion was made by Mr. Pfeifler, seconded by Mr. Dixson to approve the
Minutes of the November 11, 1983 Commission Meeting. Notion carried
unanimously.
3. Financial Reports: November, 1983.
Town Manager Gwynn presented the Financial Report for the month of October,
1983. This report is made a part of the Minutes. He stated that 40% of
the tax roll had been collected. He distributed the Town audit report for
review by the Commission and indicated that discussion would be held at the
January 1984, meeting.
After further discussion, a motion was made by Mr. Pfeifler, seconded by
Mr. Dixson to approve the Financial Report. Motion passed unanimously.
4. Presentation of Police Report.
Chief Greer presented the Police Report for the month of November, 1983
and indicated there had been no burglaries and very little other crime
for the month.
There was no discussion and the report was received and filed.
Town Commission Meeting
Minutes, December 11, 1983
page 2
5. Presentation of Town Planning Board Report.
A. A request by Martin O'Boyle for final site plan review for construction
of a new single family dwelling on property described as Lot 6, Hidden
Harbour Estates and located at 19 North Hidden Harbour.
Mr. Mayer, Planning Board Chairman, indicated that this item would be
deleted from the agenda because the applicant did not submit his comp-
leted drawings for final site plan review by the Planning Board.
B. Mr. Mayer also mentioned that the final plans for the Von Esson residence
had been reviewed and approved for issuance of the building permit.
6. Discussion on dredging.
At this time Mayor Koch stated that Mr. Tom Campbell of Arthur Strock &
Co. was present, and that there was still some problem in obtaining the
dredging permit.
Mayor Koch asked for a presentation as to where we stand with the DER.
Mr. Campbell said that they have re- applied for a permit to dredge to
-5 NGVD. They fully expect an approval on this within a few weeks. The
DER would have required a hearing to dredge to -6 NGVD, along with addi-
tional studies and time delays. He had recommended to go for the -5 NGVD
because of this. The plan to dredge to -6 NGVD is justified if the Town
should wish to pursue this further, either now or at some later tune.
The Mayor and Town Commission agreed to go for the -5 NGVD and to secure
the permit.
The Mayor was concerned about the 5 foot berm and the 1 on 5 slope.
A. Would the berm slough off into the channel anyway?
Mr. Campbell said that it was his feeling that if they dredged with a 1 on
5 slope, the berm should be stable.
B. The Mayor indicated his displeasure with the 5 foot berm, indicating
that this in many ways negates the concept that was originally put forth;
that is, to provide berthing depth for small boats. The Mayor said he
felt this might be a "cop -out" on the part of the engineer, who doesn't
want to take liability for this item.
Mr. Campbell responded that he was asked to advise the Town what was a safe
dredge depth and at what distance from the bulkheads. The answer is a 5 foot
berm and the 1 on 5 slope. However, it is probable that a number of sea-
walls, that one could determine whether or not they could support themselves
if the berm were removed from in front of them. A number of factors, such
as tiebacks, pile and slab and deadmen, stage of corrosion of individual
steel elements within the concrete, that will determine if the seawall could
hold if the berm were removed from in front of it.
Town Cannission Meeting
Minutes, December 11, 1983
page 3
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Mr. Campbell said that the Strock firm had suggested that, if this was not
acceptable, a waiver might be obtained from the individual owners who desire
to have their boat slips deeper or require dredging for some other reason
(such as smelly berm that becomes exposed at low tide).
The Mayor found a problem with the scheme in that he felt that all this
additional silt in the canals would work its' way around and shallow up
other dredged areas. In addition, he felt that maneuverability within the
canals would be affected by dredged and undredged areas.
Mr. Campbell said that the Strock firm may be going beyond what they were
asked to do in suggesting a solution to the berm dredging /liability problem.
A solution to the problem is the Town's responsibility. The engineer is
just suggesting one way in which the Town could be protected from a liabil-
ity standpoint and still achieve what appears to be the desired result (to
have navigable canals and boat slips for those who want to use a boat within
their canals).
At this time the general concensus from the members of the audience was that
they also would be opposed to the design which would leave an exposed berm
at low tide. It was suggested that the engineers redesign the canal
dredging and submit new drawings as soon as possible so as to expedite the
project.
Mr. Campbell said that we would be willing to work with the Town to achieve
an equitable solution.
The Mayor was interested in what other towns did who administered a dredging
program of interior canals. Did they worry about a berm? Did they use a
2 foot berm or a 1 foot berm, or did they obtain waivers? Mr. Campbell did
not know the answer to this problem as to what is done in other cities. The
Mayor comiented he didn't feel he should be doing engineering for the engineer.
Mr. Campbell said that it would be of interest to know how other towns handle
this problem, from the town's perspective. However, our opinion as to what we
feel would be a safe berm and a safe slope does not change, based on what the
findings are of this investigation. The only thing that might change is the
risk that the Town may be willing to take relative to the liability of dredg-
ing in front of the individual lots. Regardless of what other conmmities
have done, we have recd Tended a 5 foot bean and a 1 on 5 slope here. Our
design can easily be adjusted to accarodate those owners who feel that
dredging should occur in front of their property to the depth that they
prescribe. If the Town feels that this solution is unworkable for one reason
or another, they can suggest others.
The Mayor said that his processing has gone on long enough and that he wants -
sone firm answers from staff and the engineer by next week as to the way to
proceed on this project.
Town Commission Meeting
Minutes, December 11, 1983
page 4
7. Discussion on Long Range Planning Project.
Mr. Gaynn presented a report from Post, Buckley, Schuh and Jernigan, Inc.
including a preliminary plot plan layout for the Phipps property and pre-
liminary cost estimates on other Town projects to be included in the up-
coming bond issue.
He stated that the items and cost estimates proposed for bond issue
inclusion were:
- Water System Improvements - $115,000
- Road Improvements - 269,000
- Phipps Property Loan - 265,000
- Barnett Bank Loan - 60,000
- Phipps Property Improvements- 327,000
After considerable discussion regarding the canal dredging project, it was
determined to add to the list of proposed projects the Town's financial
involvement in the project of 30% of the dredging cost to a maximum dollar
figure of $240,000 toward canal dredging and improvements.
Mr. O'Brien asked if all the items discussed and proposed by the Long Range
Planning Committee had been included in the bond issue project list. It was
determined that an information meeting should be held to review the items and
cost estimates.
Mr. Randolph stated that tentative approval of the projects for the bond
issue was needed today and that each item should be listed separately
within the overall bond issue on the ballot.
After further discussion and upon a motion by Mr. Pfeifler and second by
Mr. Dixson, the projects and cost estimates as proposed were approved
to be included in the bond issue.
The amount of the bond was then discussed and upon a motion by Mr.
Pfeifler and second by Mr. Dixson, a bond limit figure of 1.6 million
dollars was established and approved.
8. Comments and Reconmendations from Commission Members.
None.
9. Public Requests or Comments from the floor.
None.
Town Commission Meeting
Minutes, December 11, 1983
page 5
10. Adjournment.
being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:30 A.M.
Management
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Balances 11/30/83
$ 63,721.00
Deposits
359,477.40
Withdrawals
363,456.76
Balances 12/31/83
$ 59,741.64
Invested Surplus - General Fund
$ 254,559.49
Invested Surplus - Water Fund
55,698.17
Invested Funds - Police Dept. (Boat Sale)
18,140.99
Loans Payable - Barnett Bank
60,860.01
Loans Payable - Sun Bank (Phipps Property)
265,000.00
Receipts
Taxes - Real estate
$ 318,153.69
Electric Franchise
4,016.28
Fines
408.00
Licenses
296.00
Water
26,109.99
Trash
8,649.00
Other
333.00
Permits
1,181.50
Cigarette Tax
149.94
Lots cleaned
180.00
Total
$ 359,477.40
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