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Home My Public Portal AboutJFOCM 2000-07-13 e7/27/2e~0 13:03 Sle72545e':: DAV & ~SSOC PAGE 131 MINUTES JOINT DISTRICT MEETING WINTER PARK WEST WATER & SANITATION DISTRICT GRAND COUNTY WATER & SANIT A TlON DISTRICT No.1 FRASER SANITATION DISTRICT GRAND COUNTY. COLORADO Representatives from each of the above Distdcts met on Thursday, July 13,2000, at the Winter Park West Water & Sal1itation District's conference room, 509 Zerex Street, Fraser, Colorado, to furtber discuss the pos:-iibility of consolidation of the 3 Districts. The repre5c:ntative's prescnr flQn1 each Districl were: WPW W&.S: Fraser S:ln: OCW&S: ,Ion Westerlund and Gary Cooper. Kirk Klanke. Joe Fuqua, Steve Someral and Dennis Soles. Bob Wolf. Brucc (-h.\tchins and Vince Turner. Bob Wolf called the me~ting to order at 7:05 p,rn. Bob Wolf wanted to go over the Wholesale Treatn'lcnt Service Report prepared by McLaughlin !Water Engineers ltd. This l'eport showed that we are looking at an estimate of $250,00 to upsize the sewer line from a. 15 to 24 inch Iil,e. Bruce brought up the FraserlMaryvale agreement which is betwet:l: Fraser Sal1it,ltion and the Districts of Maryvale. This agreement is from the Town of Fraser's PU I) and states that the sewer plnJ'l provides tor construction of a 24 inch sewer out How. There Wil:S discussion tbut thil) wa:,; not ill the McLuughlinlWEl.ter Engineers ltd. report. It was pointed out that there are 2 difftrent aglocement5 - one with the Town of Fraser 2U1d one with the sanitat~ol1 districts. Th~ Town of Fraser hIlS nothing to do with the sanitation district. they are completely separate ..)I\d SQ the Town of Fraser can put anything in l.Ul agreement that they' want. Tl1ere was discut\:,iofl about the indu:sion agreement which Vince ha.d gotten from Vicky Wintet::s thul morning. Vil:i~c staled that in paragI"clph 5 of the inclusion agreement there are 3 options. One option i:s !hut MaI')'val~ can b~IUd !lny capacity they want and charge the people above them for the built-in capacity. (Paragraph 5. Construction of additional mains - the parties of th~s agreement are Fruscr Sanitation Di:rtrict, the Maryvalc ViIlnge, the Milryvale Commcrciul Meu-opolit;:m Disu'ict and Maryvalc Rl:sidential Metropolitan Districts (they are calling them districts) which is ill the :-let up by tht: prior owners to try to get services to the property.) P~lmg.raf'h :; ulso litlltl.::i. ~; r GI'lllid COllnty W,I{I.;r and SanilUtjol1 Distl'ict is connected to Fruscr :-Jyslcm, dcvcloJX:l' uncJ lh...: dj:Slric\1j, will be provided an opportunity to participate in said line to reduce the co:;t~, There ili no formula as to how to do that, It goes on to say, Itany line sizes shall be adequutc to serve ab.luing prop~rty" - abuu:ng property could be Winter Park - GCW&S. Option #3 sttl.led that "in the event developor and districts are requested to enlarge facilities by Ft'~r Sanitation, shall P,IY the incrcn1l;nt,11 cost increased solely on net oversizing at time of conslrlict;(lll". So it will ~;uvc:: GCW&S morc money if rraser Sanitation requests developer and district:; lo \)vcl'sizc lh.. ltnc and Wi:: would l=ny for the oversizing, it is not pro rata at all. Kirk said Inn! thi:-; was hi:; UmknH&lnding of the <Iijn.:cmcl1t a I.so , Kirk said th..t just for discussion sake /<o?J ýÿ ~7/27/2eB0 13:B3 97e725C5~':: DA'I & ClSSOC PAGE i:J:2 :2 roO )10 we would lISi: the $250.000 figure to sce i r it b finan<:ially feasible - if lt !s. then they should proceed from there. 'rQ further the question of 15 to 24. Bob wanted to know how far the 24 inch diameter pipe would h,wl: to go. Joe said that right now there is a 15 inch coming in to the meter statioll with 21 going <Hit oJ'thc meter ~mtiol1. M.\ryvalc is relponsiblc lor pipe to the Arby's station so it will be thl.: combined districts rcs~)n~ibiJil)l tor oversi:dng from the Arby's station to the meter pit. The meter slation i::; by Twin Rivel's on County Road 8. Kirk said that they (Fraser) were going to upsize thl.: lines anyway from the metering station to Arby's and then Maryvale.is going to put in the new trunk line from Arby's up to the valley. Bob wanted to know if Iwhen the line from Arby's to tbe plant gets replaced or upsL(..cd , would all three districts cost share in that? Kirk fl.:ltlhQl they wodtl ~1l1 share the co::;! somc~ilt.c in the futux-e - 1 0 Yl!ars~ 15,20 years, it would be split three ways. Gary noted that WPW does not discharge into this section of pipeline. Dennis pojnlcd out tl'1at::;omc of these figures were fur build-out and not necessarily for the next 10 years. John felt that down the rood, they were going to have to put in a 27 inch pipe. It was recommended that if they need to upsize the sewer line then it is best to oversize it now. Maryvalc was brought up and Steve: pointed out that we have the ability to require them to build a greater capacity Jinc:_ Vince pointed out there were 3 different ways ofdaing this in Paragraph 5 - it states thm if Grand County comes in. they will negotiate. Then, it says if Maryvale has an adjoining landowner, tb~l is another dtilal ilrld the nllmber 3 deal is if Fraser Sanitation District says YOll have to upgrade. the you will only ~ct reimbursed for the oversizing. Vince Turner sta.ted "from my board (GCW&S), that is what I want- #3. Fraser wi1: ultimately own the line ar..yway, So. whatever excess capacity is in tr.ullinc:. they might be entitled to but if we tell them to put in tbut :size, I don't think thl:Y should be entitled to try to get the money out of you guys. #3 says that i r Fraser S.mitation soys that we wmH you to do this per the terms of your agreement, (the IllSt pm"ag.l1lph), they wi 11 be reimbursed 1'01' the oversi:ling only. Th~re was discussion about adjoining landowners - il. was felt thut this is l'I developer and not one of the districts. #2. This estimate was :-11260,000. TIHS is going from Arby'::; Lo CR 8 to just incrcal:lc the size, This was a liltle vague. This would bl.: divided by 3 districts plus Maryvalc. (Note: The WPW District d(l~s not discJ1(1rgc into this pipe), Kirk said it does say budget increase and they need to ask McLaughlin to be nHW specific. Even with this figure of $260,OOO~ it IS a pretty good number. Vince tdt this was way within his comfort zone. #3 - Kirk said that the c~linlate was up to 4.5 million dollars now. Steve said to keep in mind that part of lhul Wll;; tbe shld!;\,': dl:.:watering at a cost of $510.000.00 w:1ich was never included in the o1'i~il'\al cs\il11t\t~. Quc::;tinn as to how this would be split. by capacity or whatever. Kirk said there coulJ be some co:st sharing and the possibility of obtainillB a grall1 for the dewatering. Four and hCl!fmillion would bl:: U ma.....imum becaus~ there would be cost sharing on the dewatering, portion. Steve stated that this is includt:d in ~he 8 million but was never included in the original Sm{lllel' plnnt. It is an additional bel1dlt to them as well and they would pay a proportionate :share as well. NOl incll.lded il1lhis is th~ v.\luc ofthc.:: I.:xistil1g plant which wCiuld be: an expense that you would have to buy in~o in some way. shupe and form. Vince stat~d that they want to give all thl:ir properl)' to the R..:~. I)is:rict. Regarding the consoljd~ltion of the dislriCis, Vince stated that last :ime this was tried, there was a lot of distnlst between di:i1ricts but lhi~ time things were different. Kirk said that it :seemed to be 07/27/2000 13:03 97072EA50S DAY .:1, ClSSOC PAGE ~3 an equitable agreement. Bob stated that part of this \-vas because the complexity of the group bad changed and things were more congenial. Vince staled that he thought the agreement worked.. Fraser could own and or';I't1tc the plal1l with the other districts having an equitable interest in it. There wU::i discussion ..lS lQ who would draw tip the agreement between th~ districts and it was ,_ d cided to ask Rich N~wton ifhe wOllld be willing to ;'cod over the agreement and make the . I - 'cessary changes, All decided that they prcfcl'red to keep this local and GCW &S is requesting I IV) 11~GD of the 3.0 MUD. '~'he distril.:ts wiil own what the)' pay for. Jon state~ that the plan is . ~ . ~d to go up to 6.0 MOD. Bruce s;atcd that they needed to work out equIty number but Kirk . L'd 1is could be dropped if the land is donlltcd to the Rec. District. Bruce wanted to know if the 'answer will be th~ same if the FVMRD does not war.t the land and they just keep it as e pace. This was E1grceable to everybody. This giVtJs the districts some flexibility on the agreemeJ~t. if it is left O!\ opon spac::: and turned into E\ugmentation ponds and not used by the Rec. District. The need for augmenl~li()n ponds wa~ discussed. It was felt that they nced~d to leave one of the ponds for this use. The Hllgmcntntiol1 will help the river there immensely. They will try to get a grant for rcclumatio;, or the other 2 rHll1ds. pussibly '-rom Greater Colorado Outdoors to help with mak.il1/;: the ~cwD.ge lal;;.ool1::i into land IQr u:;c by the Ree. District. Gary stated that as long as we are conccrnl:d about a pt!mpback, we ~hOtdd not be selling the water rights of the augmentation pond lhat we are talking ubout keeping. He thinks Grund One or someone should halls onto that and make that part Qfthl~ agreement ~mlil we get to the point where we don't think Hammond is a problem. As long as Ii is a problem, it sure is a nice pond to have and it can be leased to the Rec. Distdct. Another optiol1 is to hove ajoillt ownership between the 3 entitie$ fu'1d if we can't gt::t an)' grt\nt money or i I' W~ don't get enollgh gront money. the 3 entities split the difference of reclamation to keep clos~r control. Druce proposed joint ownership between the 3 entities for reclamation llnd to keep the augmenlulion ponds. Vince suggested that all three districts gct together to give the propel'll' to the FVMRD. [t was decided that the augmentation pond should be jointly owned by alllhl'ce diStricts. Infiltration was discus::;cd 1I11d they will do their be:)! to keep it cleaned up. The Hilmnwl1d Ditch W.I~ di:.'ic1.lsscd as to whether it nc~d~ to be included in the agreement, as far as pump t'lack and cost :-;hai'ing on 4111)' of that. \! inc~ fell that if it is a problem for one of us, it i:s u probkl11 Cor all uf LlS, AlsQ, if pUlnp b~lck and i1llgm~l1tution was ev~r n~cded, Maryvale should be expected to 11<..:'lp with the C('!)l~. J f the HUnlmond Ditch problem can be satisfied, what it Occomes is what wc w":1'c ti.1.[kicg ablJul lusllimc - YOll have a legal obligation which is to satisfy the Hnmmond Ditch probicm and th..::m YOll have the v::sual obligation. All rncr.1bcr:i n.:tlch-::d " h.;1l~::\li'Vc agn.:cmcllt onlhc con:>olid,ltioll. It was decided to hayc another mectiJll; in 2 wl:cks and have Rich ~cwlon allcnd. Gary will ~nd Rich n. proposal and give him a copy of the old agreement to Rich so lha~ he can be familia:' with it bdore the next meeting. The goal is to bave a n~dran. of the agrc:ei"l~rltlo go over at the: next meeting. Next meeting schcdukd 1.<)1" 7/27/00 tll 7:00 p.111 Meeting u<.l.i(lllmed u\ H:21 p.I11, ýÿ