HomeMy Public PortalAboutCouncil Minutes 1997 01/30MINUTES
Joint meeting of the McCall City Council and the Board of County Commissioners,
Valley County
Thursday, January 30, 1997
1. The meeting was called to order by the mayor at 7:05 P.M. Mr. Eckhardt, Mr.
Martens, Ms. Arp and Mr. Killen answered the roll call. A quorum was present.
Also present from the city were City Manager Gary Shimun, City Attorney Ted
Burton, City Clerk -Treasurer Jim Henderson, City Engineer Jacqueline DeClue
and Staff Planner Andrew Locke. Present from the county were Commissioners
Gestrin, Kerr and Davis, County Clerk Lee Heinrich and County Prosecutor
Richard Roat.
2. Eurasian Watermilfoil Kirk Hall of the Big Payette Lake Water Quality Council
reported on the presence of Eurasian Watermilfoil and the need to move quickly
to eradicate it. Mayor Killen suggested that the council ensure that Department of
Lands was informed. Bill Petzak of DOL reported that funds may be available to
apply herbicides
3. Public Hearing on Zoning and Building Code Amendments. Mayor Killen
called the public hearing. Mr. Shimun gave a report on the process so far. Andy
Mr. Locke summarized the proposed changes in the proposed ordinance including
the planning and zoning commissions' reasons for the changes.
Mr. Killen then called for public testimony. The following were heard:
Bill Petzak and Tim Duffner of the Idaho Department of Lands objected to the
150 foot setback on Eastside Drive and Warren Wagon Road.
Mr. Killen read a letter from Scott Davenport objecting to the return to the 10 foot
eave height restriction in Zone "A"
Joel Droulard objected to the limitation of structures in R5 and R10 zones.
Certain agricultural uses are permitted and owners should be able to build
structures incidental to that. He further objected to the size limitation of detached
garages. Owners should be able to build a place for a shop, tack room or upstairs
den. Auto sales and equipment rental business should be able to display
merchandise outdoors. The requirement for planters between highway and
existing parking lots is an undue hardship on owners. The record of survey
procedure should have more specific wording because as it reads now, zoning
administrator could change his mind and require referral after drawings, etc. are
complete. A 75-foot setback in Scenic Route should be adequate. Tree removal
provisions don't adequately speak to road construction. He further suggested the
provisions be expressed in layman's language.
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Dave Harrold found the requirements for siting manufactured homes in
neighborhoods conform to neighborhood appearances disturbing. He further
asked for clarification of the snow load requirements and was informed that
vendors of manufactured housing would be required to attach notices that the
home did not conform to the city's snow load requirement for "stick -built" homes.
Since no one else wished to be heard. The mayor closed the hearing to public
testimony.
Commissioner Kerr noted that the record of survey procedure as written could
allow the zoning administrator to approve then later to change his mind and refer
it to the commission after the work had been done. Mr Shimun stated that any
disapproval would have to be in accordance with the ordinance and that there was
an appeal process.
Mr. Killen questioned the Development Standards of Zone C regarding screening
of commercial parking lots adjacent to residential property.
Mr. Martens pointed out that the city had gone through a process to change the
eave height requirements to 12 feet and that we were now back to a 10-foot
requirement. Mr. Burton pointed out that the change only applied to Zone A. Mr.
Martens further noted that the definition of a building footprint included decks
and overhanging eaves when the council had recently found otherwise. A 30% lot
coverage still allowed for large accessory buildings. The ordinance should specify
that the primary dwelling should be the largest structure.
Commissioner Kerr questioned what the eave height have to do with the size of
the building. The city is zoning toward a residential use then not providing for
adequate storage of recreation vehicles. Mr. Shimun pointed out that most single
story homes had approximately 9-foot eaves and an accessory building with a 12-
foot eaves would dominate. Mr. Kerr stated the ordinance should define
incidental interior space. He further objected to the requirement that R Zones
have a primary building before sheds or barns could be built. Mr. Kerr further
pointed out that the ordinance should be written in layman's language.
Commissioner Gestrin stated that he would not sign on 120-lbs-per-square-foot
snowloads on manufactured homes. He further objected to the 10-foot eave
height limitation. Mr. Gestrin then criticized staff for not being receptive to the
board's comments.
Mr. Killen then summarized the issues presented so far: (1) R-zones vs.
agricultural uses; (2) 10-foot vs. 12-foot eaves; (3) lot coverage issues; and (4) the
150 foot setback on Warren Wagon Road and Eastside Drives.
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Mr. Martens asked about grandfather rights with respect to runoffs. Mr. Shimun
pointed out if there was runoff it was already violating state and federal law. Mr.
Martens further suggested that the trained forester referred to in the tree removal
provisions should not be the property owner. He also stated that hazard trees
should be defined and dealt with.
Commissioner Kerr stated the need to expand the cemetery would require the
removal of approximately 75% of the trees. He further requested that the
cemetery property should be deeded to the cemetery district. He further expressed
his frustration with the legal language of the ordinance.
Ms. Arp asked about camping in recreational vehicles. Mr. Burton pointed out
that such use would be prohibited in the set back. She further pointed out that the
requirement to remove graffiti 24 hours seemed a hardship. Other board and
council members pointed out that this should be in the criminal section of the
code and not in the zoning code.
Mr. Kerr stated that it seemed that when one person does something objectionable
the resulting ordinance penalizes everyone.
4. Shriner's National Burn Awareness Week - Mayor Proclamation. Mayor
Killen read a proclamation requested by the Shiner's proclaiming February 2
through 8, 1997 as Burn Awareness Week. Mr. Eckhardt moved to adopt the
proclamation. Mr. Martens seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
5. Adjournment Without further business, Mr. Martens moved to adjourn. Mr.
Eckhardt seconded and the motion carried unanimously. The council -adjourned at
9:55 P.M. --,
ATTEST:
William M. Killen, Mayor
ames H. Henderson City Clerk
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Valley County —January 30, 1997
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