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Joint Session
McCall City Council & Valley County Commissioners
A Public Hearing
February 1, 2006
CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Mayor Robertson called the Joint Session of the McCall City Council and the
Valley County Commissioners to order at 6:10 p.m. Council Member Bailey,
Council Member Bertram, Council Member Kraemer, Mayor Robertson, and
Council Member Scott answered roll call. A quorum was present.
Valley County Commissioner Phil Davis asked for roll call for the Valley
County Commissioners. Commissioner Frank Eld, Commissioner Tom Kerr,
and Commissioner Phil Davis were present.
Bill Nichols, McCall City Attorney, and Lee Heinrich, Valley County Clerk, were
present.
City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; Carol Coyle,
Grant Coordinator; Michelle Groenevelt, Community Planner; Roger Millar,
Community Development Director; and ,Joanne York, City Clerk.
Mayor Robertson explained the process of the Public Hearing. He thanked
everyone who had been involved in the process of developing the Revised
Planning & Zoning and Subdivision code, stating it was truly a special
document.
Roger Millar, Community Development Director gave a presentation of the
Revised Planning & Zoning and Subdivision code. At the conclusion of his
presentation, Mr. Millar asked if there were any questions from the Joint
Councils. There was discussion concerning "formula businesses", inclusionary
housing, and housing fees.
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PUBLIC HEARING
Mayor Robertson opened the Public Hearing at 7:30 p.m., clarifying that the
time was to be used for comments and the only questions allowed were ones
necessary for clarification.
Patricia Eames: Ms. Eames said she wanted to keep the historical preservation
of McCall, to maintain a sense of continuity with McCall and its past.
Kathy Malone: Ms. Malone stated that the 35' restriction along the lake should
not be changed.
Brigid Wiking: Ms. Wiking asked if the issue of using white plastic fencing was
addressed in the plan, and Mayor Robertson said it was. Ms. Wiking asked that
the Council keep the 35' height limit.
Rick Fereday: Mr. Fereday stated that Planning and Zoning had done a good
job and that, all in all, this was a good ordinance. Mr. Fereday emphasized that
this should be made a county -wide ordinance.
Andrew Cochrane: Mr. Cochrane stated he was very impressed with the
objectivity of the Code, but was concerned about the phrase, "significant
amenities". Mr. Cochrane stated this was a gray area and, by approving this,
the Council would be opening itself up for trouble. Mr. Cochrane said he was
very leery of raising the height limits anywhere.
Ann Eberle: Ms. Eberle thanked the County Planning and Zoning for not
approving the 35' height limits and said that listening to an applicant's request
for a change to the 35' height limit was tantamount to saying we would do it.
Don Eberle: Mr. Eberle asked if this change would give the Housing Authority
eminent domain authority. County Commission Tom Kerr replied that no, the
Housing Authority was a recommending body only. Mr. Eberle continued his
statements, saying that any added use along the Lakeshore would be
detrimental to the quality of the lake. He also stated that the Council should
not base a building boom on Tamarack hype because he did not believe it
would happen. Mr. Eberle suggested that the old concept of rooming houses
would be a way to handle affordable housing.
Dave Siegle: Mr. Siegle stated that the building height of 35' was addressed
less than two years ago at a meeting at the golf course, at which time the
public was told the issue would be buried. He also stated that the timing of
the meeting during Winter Carnival seemed strange. He said the shoreline was
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unique and picturesque and should remain that way. He said it was not
necessary to build right on the lake. He said he did not want to see the Yacht
Club torn down and that locals would not be able to enjoy it. He said there are
several questions that need to be addressed concerning a new facility on the
lake: 1) Will it be "local -friendly"? 2) Will the restaurant be too expensive for
the local people? 3) Will it have a dress code? Mr. Siegle said that such a
facility would set a precedent for other developers.
Leslie Siegle: Ms. Siegle asked who the chain restaurants were in town, and Mr.
Millar answered they are Chapala's, Moxie Java and Subway. Ms. Siegle pointed
out that for anything on the shoreline and along the right-of-way line, the
distance requirements are 150'. She read an article from an April 2004 edition
of The Star -News.
Craig Eberle: Mr. Eberle stated he had submitted a letter and asked the Joint
Commission to refer to it for his comments.
Diane Bub: Ms. Bub stated she was opposed to changing the height limitation.
Dottie Moore: Ms. Moore stated she was against changing the 35' height
limitation, especially along the lake. She said the height changes should be
two to three blocks away from the lake.
Alana Shoemaker: Ms. Shoemaker said she does not want to see anything over
35' along the lake and that any height changed should stay totally away from
the lake. She stated that higher heights would obstruct sunlight on the snow.
Snow storage would be a problem, and that snow and ice could cause more
damage on buildings improperly built. Ms. Shoemaker asked who would be
judging the amenities, stating that what one person believed would not be
what another person believed. Ms. Shoemaker emphasized that she is totally
against raising the 35' height limit and asked the Council to not ruin the town
of McCall.
Steve Millemann: Mr. Millemann stated there was agreement within the
community and consensus to address the issue now rather than waiting years,
and that we were proactive in addressing this issue. Mr. Millemann said the
difference between McCall and other resort areas discussed in the Needs
Assessment Plan was that McCall had land. He also said that we are an
extended community from two counties, not just McCall, and that whatever was
accomplished here had to address both Valley and Adams Counties. Mr.
Millemann said that the plan's assessment was addressed from the point of
view of Valley and Adams Counties, but was superimposed on one town within
that area, resulting in some significant inequities. He stated that the needs
assessment recommended a menu of tools besides inclusionary zoning, and
attempted to solve the entire problem through only one tool - new
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development - rather than a multitude of tools. Mr. Millemann stated the
entirety of the projected 24% comes from this ordinance and there was not a
balance and a fairness. He emphasized that if there was not a balance,
community housing would not be accomplished. He stated that he had
submitted his request for specific changes in writing to the Council, which
included: 1) Change the 24% to 10% on the inclusionary housing; 2) Allow for
alternative compliance; 3) Delete the requirement that housing must be
dispersed throughout the project; 4) Clarify how fees -in -lieu can be used; and 5)
Provide an exit strategy from the deed restriction if there was not a buyer for
the unit. Mr. Millemann stated that the ordinance did not increase the height
limit but allowed the council and the public the opportunity to look at a project
where the public benefits might outweigh the impact. Mr. Millemann stated
that the ordinance must be fair and balanced to work.
Bert Kulesza: Mr. Kulesza stated the plan is not integrated and it would be a
shame for the effort to end at the south end of the planning area, and asked
that the County Commissioners please continue the plan. Mr. Kulesza said he
was in favor of keeping the 35' height limitation, and that once the height was
changed, it would be irreversible.
Lois Fry: Ms. Fry stated that the public should be allowed the power to say no.
She reminded the joint Commission that we the people had the power and the
joint Commission worked for the people. Ms. Fry also stated that she may have
to move out of the area if she cannot find affordable housing.
Stan Strzelecki: Mr. Strzelecki stated there was a certain air of innocence in
McCall, and as a newcomer, he recommended the Council be very careful to
preserve it, that once it is gone, it cannot be gotten back. He asked the
Council if there was any discussion going on concerning the kind of employers
that McCall wanted to draw. Mayor Robertson replied that there was an
allowance for discussion.
David Carey: Mr. Carey referred to Chapter 16 of the Design Review, stating he
would like to proceed with the changes at the Hotel McCall, internal changes,
which will not affect the moratorium because he will not be adding residential
units or adding to the sewer capacity.
Curt Spalding: Mr. Spalding asked that the 35' height limit be maintained
because it had helped shape the present design and character of McCall. He
asked how would decisions concerning amenities be made, for example the
question of how many amenities would be enough. Mr. Spalding also stated he
supports signage and design review.
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Gary Thompson: Mr. Thompson stated he was a new resident and was part of
the group of educators, volunteer firemen, etc., who are in need of affordable
housing. He said they are looking forward to provisions for affordable housing.
Judy Anderson: Ms. Anderson said she supported the ordinance except for
changing the 35' height limit. She said she supported the inclusionary zoning
of 24% and that mixed neighborhoods are better for everyone. She stated she
is also in support of green housing developments.
Mike Hormaechea: Mr. Hormaechea discussed the impact of the ordinance on
his downtown project and said there should be an exit strategy in case a unit is
not sold.
Bob Hunt: Mr. Hunt stated that the ordinance provides for consideration of
something that will be good for the entire town of McCall and that there is a
need for an upscale, luxury hotel in the Central Business District. He stated
that he maintains ownership and operation of his hotel projects. He said that
in retail restaurant operation, the builder has to be able to service the debt. He
emphasized that a beautiful hotel on the lake would anchor the downtown area.
He said the Central Business District is only one-half mile in length, and his
hotel project would financially benefit the town. Mr. Hunt distributed copies of
a study to the Joint Commission and asked the Joint Commission to not close
the door on the opportunity to review this project.
Susan Bechdel: Ms. Bechdel said she believed the percentages for retail and
chain stores is very high, and she urged the Council to reduce those
percentages. She stated she was aware of the difficulty of hiring employees
because of the lack of affordable housing and that she supported the 24%.
Concerning the height issues, Ms. Bechdel stated that the visual access to the
lake must be maintained.
Gale Chamber: Mr. Chamber stated he was pleased with the presentation and
supported the 24%. He stated he was in support of the ordinance because it is
an attempt to focus on the health of the community and the whole picture.
Greg Lovell: Mr. Lovell noted that the Dark Sky Ordinance is a major issue. He
stated that the limit on drive -by windows was a hardship for some downtown
businesses. He stated he does not want to limit the flexibility of the Council.
He suggested that one way to maintain the view of the lake would be for the
citizenry to buy the property and build a park, stating that the public needed to
have the flexibility to see that the ordinance works.
Liz Warner: Ms. Warner stated that we have the ability to stop the victimization
of our local citizens. She urged the Councils to approve the 24% inclusionary
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housing and to require builders to provide energy efficient houses. She asked
the Councils to please maintain the 35' height limit.
Esther Mulnick: Ms. Mulnick stated we need to adopt both of the ordinances
and to do it immediately. She stated she favored the height limit but believed
the 50% for retail chain stores was too high.
Bill McMurray: Mr. McMurray stated he agreed with Mr. Millemann's comments
about development within the city. He said the 24% is very high. He stated this
was an area issue and involved both McCall and Valley County. He said there
have been some unintended consequences of the moratorium.
Dan Krahn: Mr. Krahn stated there were other restrictions besides the 35' that
will impact that front lake property. He said the percentage for chain stores
should include restaurants also, and that the 50% was too high. Mr. Krahn said
there should be options for drive-thru windows, that they provide service to the
entire community, and that limiting them will increase parking requirements.
Concerning the Dark Sky requirements, Mr. Krahn said the lighting provided
safety and did not increase liability. Mr. Krahn stated there was opportunity to
be fair to the property owners, to give flexibility to the height issue, and to
look at all of the options. He said that the property owners are paying taxes
and that the public needed to maintain a positive attitude towards them.
Mayor Robertson announced that everyone who had signed the speaker list had
spoken, and asked if anyone else wished to speak.
Christy Albercrombie: Ms. Albercrombie stated that when considering
affordable housing, businesses should also consider raising pay scales. She
stated she was in favor of lobbying for higher minimum wages.
Dennis Coyle: Mr. Coyle stated it was not financially viable for a young couple
to move to McCall and that money that went towards affordable housing meant
less money for wages. He stated there should be a process in place to review
height restrictions for projects and that an arbitrary height restriction of 35'
should not stop that. He said that seasonal housing was substandard and he
would like to be able to spend money on bike paths and ski trails instead of
affordable housing, but that housing was a major need.
Wayne Ruemmele: Mr. Ruemmele asked the Councils to keep their options
open and that the height restriction of 35' was arbitrary.
Phil Feinberg: Mr. Feinberg stated that when a future project comes before
Planning and Zoning, the Commission does not have to approve it if they do
not like it.
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Larry Shake: Mr. Shake asked that percentages be rechecked. He also stated
that it would be better for the airport to be moved farther south.
Mayor Robertson closed the Public Hearing at 10:01 p.m. and stated they would
continue to receive written comments until February 8 and deliberations would
begin at the February 9 McCall City Council meeting; the joint councils agreed.
ADJOURNMENT
Valley County Commissioner Kerr moved to adjourn, keeping the record open
for written comment until 5 p.m. February 8th. Commissioner Eld seconded
the motion. Commissioners Kerr, Eld and Davis voted aye. The motion was
passed unanimously.
Mayor Robertson moved to adjourn, keeping the record open for written
comment until 5 p.m. February 8. Council Member Bailey seconded the motion.
Council Member Bailey, Council Member Bertram, Council Member Kraemer,
Mayor Robertson and Council Member Scott voted aye. The motion was passed
unanimously.
The Joint Councils adjourned at 10:06 p.m.
William A. Robertson, Mayor
ATTEST:
Joanne E. York, City Clerk
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