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HomeMy Public PortalAboutCouncil Special Minutes from 2008 Resolution 17-13City of McCall RESOLUTION 17-13 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MCCALL, IDAHO, APPROVING 2008 MINUTES FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS OF THE MCCALL CITY COUNCIL; PROVIDING FOR RELATED MATTERS; AND PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. WHEREAS, Idaho State Code § 74-205 states that written minutes of all governing meetings must be provided; and WHEREAS, it was discovered in 2016 that minutes from 12 City Council meetings in 2008 were not available; and WHEREAS, in 2008 there were 12 City Council meetings where the City Clerk was not present and notes were taken by the City Manager; and WHEREAS, in 2008 the notes from the City Manager had not been converted to minutes; and WHEREAS, the City Manager notes have been converted into minutes; and NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MCCALL, VALLEY COUNTY, IDAHO THAT: Section 1: The City Manager notes from the following City Council Meetings were used to create minutes: 02/21/2008, 07/17/2008, 07/18/2008, 07/25/2008, 07/28/2008, 08/01/2008, 08/11/2008, 10/16/2008, 10/29/2008, 11/21/2008, 12/03/2008, and 12/05/2008 and are attached as Exhibits 1-12. Section 2: The McCall City Council special meeting work sessions minutes attached as Exhibits 1-12 are approved. Section 3: This resolution shall be in full force and effect on July 27, 2017. Passed and approved this 27 day of July, 2017. CITY OF MCCALL Valley County, Idaho •� As•� * i SEAL ATTEST: ,2� ." BessieJo W.' , City C k Resolution 17-13 July 27, 2017 Page 1 of 1 MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting McCall City Hall -- Legion Hall Idaho First Bank Community Room - 475 E. Deinhard Lane February 21, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Executive Session Recess Reconvened Public Comment Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 3:00 p.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Briem, Council Member Kraemer, and Council Member Scott all answered roll call. EXECUTIVE SESSION Mayor Kulesza moved to go into Executive Session for: • Litigation — Pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345(1)f to consider and advise its legal representatives in pending litigation or where there is a general public awareness of probable litigation Council discussed a possible litigation. RETURN TO OPEN SESSION Mayor Kulesza moved to return to Open Session. Recessed until 7:00 p.m. tonight at Idaho First Bank Community Room. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Meeting reconvened at Idaho First Bank Community Room on 475 E. Deinhard Lane. Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 7:00 p.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Briem, and Council Member Scott all answered roll call. Council Member Kraemer was absent. McCall City Council Special Meeting February 21, 2008 Page 1 of 2 City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; Fred Quell, Deputy City Manager WORK SESSION Discussed the latest developments in the City of McCall's efforts to pay off the Wausau judgment. PUBLIC COMMENT Mayor Kulesza called for public comment at 7:45 p.m. Liz Warner — Does Chapter 9 affect ability to borrow in the future? Tony Nash commented. Jimmy Hill — File Chapter 9 now and stop the bleeding. Bill Shortly commented. Greg Lovell — Federal preemption Dean Martens — How much has been paid to Trout in 9 months? Would like the specific costs of Chapter 9. Shirley Overton commented. Pam Graham — Mediation or negotiation? Gordon C. — Cut expenses, URA. Al Butler — Stated that the rates should be raised and pay it off. Tuck Miller — Stated we have paid $4.5 million on legal fees on J Ditch. Chop the head off of this beast. Rick Fereday — How much is the daily interest? Jackie Aymon — Change course. Dave M. commented. Stephanie Griffin commented. Gary Cooter commented. Scott Findlay — Get proactive. Ed Bird — Asked for Chapter 9 information to be sent to Scott and Ed. Marlene B. — Does Chapter 9 stop contempt? Hearing no comments, Mayor Kulesza closed the comment period at 9:28 p.m. ADJOURNMENT Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting February 21, 2008 Page 2 of 2 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council February 21, 2008 3:00 p.m. McCall City Hall (Lower Level) 216 East Park Street CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Kevin Briem, Council Member Mike Kraemer, Mayor Bert Kulesza, and Council Member Laura Scott EXECUTIVE SESSION Litigation — Pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345(1)f to consider and advise its legal representatives in pending litigation or where there is a general public awareness of probable litigation. 7:00 p.m. Idaho First Bank Community Room 475 E. Deinhard Lane TOWN HALL STYLE MEETING Discuss the latest developments in the City of McCall's efforts to pay off the Wausau judgment ADJOURNMENT Americans with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-7142 \ (Jr., 9 e;C:ce..-i- v\p c7 rlf L-(1-,/,,..^ Ool..-) VY1,..)C� h. ,:lv - k.4--.� fk (4 v\--r-ry i"i", i l&i 04,0. l (R-(-- \./e,c 4-pvx i t: ( (it ter- •� �. c ./ orb s koLA) 'iw44-64) ± c5)( ':L:6L'4 oi=t \r‘ J2)* 4 (..),&,in MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting Hotel McCall — Living Room 1101 N. 3rd Street July 17, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Work Session Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 5:30 p.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Delaney, Council Member Scott, and Council Member Witte all answered roll call. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager WORK SESSION The Council discussed the following topics. Environmental Stewardship: Sustainable economic development, the unique rural character of a small town, continue to improve McCall's natural and environmental attributes (BPL, air quality, etc.), aesthetic quality, infrastructure, and economy, and having a government that is engaged, responsive, fiscally responsible, open and transparent. Infrastructure: Sewer capacity, I&I removal and collection system improvements, water capacity and compliance with DEQ rules, street maintenance chip sealing and seal coating, and bike paths. Mayor Kulesza left the meeting at 6: 45 p.m. Campus Development: Outlined Police department and Library needs. Economic Development/Diversification: Grow and support the local businesses, and develop the Business and Industrial Parks. Community Housing: Find solutions to the lack of housing. Rules and Responsibilities: I. Invest more into public outreach and education.- 2. Improve the City website. McCall City Council Special Meeting— Council Retreat Page 1 of 2 July 17, 2008 3. Public Involvement: On time involvement, newsletter, email status reports, be proactive in getting the word out, and open forum alternatives. Council Priorities: 1. Financial Plan: Create a long range plan, Capital Improvement Plan, narratives, and create a Strategic Plan for each department. 2. Implement Comprehensive Plan: Stay focused on Vision, and keep a long term mindset. 3. Housing: Create incentive based program. 4. Wastewater: Capacity levels and the Sewer District. Council Member Bailey and District agree to make yearend adjustments to admin transfers. August 6 is the tentative Joint Meeting with Sewer District. 5. Customer Service: Improve responsiveness, be proactive not reactive, and invite more public involvement 6. Bike Paths and Sidewalks: Discuss development. Other Prioritize Comprehensive Plan Action items. ADJOURNMENT i Without further business, Council President Bailey adjourned the meeting at 8:15 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting — Council Retreat Page 2 of 2 July 17, 2008 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council July 17, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. Hotel McCall — Living Room 1101 N 3rd Street 5:30 p.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte WORK SESSION Council Retreat — Vision and Strategic Goals ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. Special Agenda July 17, 2008 -vv-214.= &sue 14 :\g-a--V4 KNr" \D-2s - - N-^ ->‘-e r <a), ( .3-zyv LQ1 - ��-J ��-e�j-v+�..+� Nei -�-► 4,,jisAft " 0 4:11- .-7T 4_ (-4 - . " A -_-4,-- vt -. (A -410)1 -10.?:42( -4, ) AV 9.- .) t "--L 71 nts i -vovvc t/se vvia-s-5 ,e, 1„,,c+ (iv v6 lv.P-vevv '4)$-K\ A / eJ 0 k)S-\ tr- Ze- �.P Pla.. P)--c)Lizvt Infrastructure sewer capacity I&I removal & collection system improvements water capacity — compliance with DEQ rules street maintenance — chip sealing and seal coating bike paths Campus Development Police Department Library Economic Development/Diversification Grow existing businesses — support local businesses Business Park/Industrial Park Community Housing MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting McCall City Hall -- Legion Hall July 18, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Work Session Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 8:35 a.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Delaney, Council Member Scott, and Council Member Witte all answered roll call. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; Linda Stokes, City Treasurer WORK SESSION Fiscal Year 2008 — 2009 Budget Adoption The Council discussed the FY09 Budget. Items of discussion were the Upper Payette River Economic Development Agency (UPRED), network administration, City Engineer, the Valley Adams Regional Housing Authority (VARHA), Police Department, Pathways Master Plan, chip sealing, Library needs, Recreation, Airport franchise fees, the Golf Course green fees, water quality, and sewer hook-up fees. There was some varied level of support for MCPAWS, the UPRED, and the VARHA so those items were pulled out for later discussion. Council Member Scott moved to set the tentative FY09 budget at $16,147,177. Council Member Bailey seconded the motion. In a roll call vote Council Member Scott, Council Member Bailey, Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Delaney, and Council Member Witte all voted aye and the motion carried. Council Member Scott moved to set the FY09 Budget Public Hearing on August 14, 2008 at 6:00 p.m. at Legion Hall. Council Member Witte seconded the motion. In a roll call vote Council Member Scott, Council Member Witte, Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, and Council Member Delaney all voted aye and the motion carried. McCall City Council Special Meeting — FY09 Budget Page 1 of 2 July 18, 2008 Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 1:45 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting — FY09 Budget Page 2 of 2 July 18, 2008 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council July 18, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. McCall City Hall (Lower Level) 216 East Park Street 8:30 a.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte WORK SESSION Adopt Tentative City of McCall Budget FY09 Set Public Hearing on Budget Adoption ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. Special Agenda July 18, 2008 7 (I� DQj -1€4-4-- 1-D9f) /-0 0(3 vfF.ED 5po<� t/i=. rt=N-(1-344-$2_, �S 4-1 s g, l�� �� c-o✓4,� p f n �o o. � L0 15 S�Q�' \if IA\ as2-c6 ki3O-Arz)/// C>L n2-42- 7\e--;; e__-SP L tirt b dry (7):(„_ L(IL - se 4—? vvN A ic_e_ ‹:=L2,t/e/0pQ-S--5. L-te ;I (-eS 12.K. �z C-(a,,C(4- 1 Se..•v.vi AS lea9� h f ( ia›(e4-- ,ic C' a 2LiocD4t) 1 r MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting McCall City Hall -- Legion Hall July 25, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Work Session Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 8:30 a.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Delaney, Council Member Scott, and Council Member Witte all answered roll call. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager WORK SESSION I Impact Fees and Capital Improvement Plan The Council discussed impact fees and a Capital Improvement Plan (CIP). ADJOURNMENT Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting — Impact Fees and CIP Page 1 of 1 July 25, 2008 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council July 25, 2008 at 8:30 a.m. McCall City Hall (Lower Level) 216 East Park Street 8:30 a.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte WORK SESSION Impact Fees and Capital Improvement Plans ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. Special Agenda July 25, 2008 MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting Joint Session with the Planning & Zoning Commission Idaho First Bank Board Room - 475 E. Deinhard Lane July 28, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Work Session Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council President Bailey called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 5:30 p.m. Council Member Bailey and Council Member Delaney all answered roll call. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Scott, and Council Member Witte were absent. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager Also in attendance were representatives from McCall Planning & Zoning Commission, Valley County Planning & Zoning Commission, Valley County Staff, and New Meadows Staff. WORK SESSION Council Member Witte arrived at 5: 45 p.m. Land Use Laws Training Session Jerry Mason, Attorney of Association of Idaho Cities and City Attorney Bill Nichols presented the Land Use Laws training. Mr. Mason reviewed Local Land Use Planning Act. Council Member Delaney and Council Member Witte left the meeting at 7: 45 p.m. ADJOURNMENT i Without further business, Council President Bailey adjourned the meeting at 8:00 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting — Land Use Laws Page 1 of 1 July 28, 2008 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council Joint Session of the McCall City Council and the Planning and Zoning Commission July 28, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. Idaho First Bank Board Room 475 E. Deinhard Lane 5:30 p.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte WORK SESSION Land Use Laws — Jerry Mason ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. Special Agenda July 28, 2008 MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting McCall City Hall -- Legion Hall August 1, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Executive Session Work Session Adj ournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL 1 Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 9:05 a.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Scott, and Council Member Witte all answered roll call. Council Member Delaney was absent. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; Walt Eisenstein, Deputy City Manager/Infrastructure & Community Development; Bill Nichols, City Attorney EXECUTIVE SESSION 1 At 9:06 a.m. Council Member Bailey moved to go into Executive Session for: • Litigation — Pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345(1)(f) To communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending litigation, or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently likely to be litigated. Council Member Witte seconded the motion. In a roll call vote, Council Member Council Member Bailey, Council Member Witte, Mayor Kulesza, and Council Member Scott all voted aye and the motion carried. Council Member Delaney arrived at 9: 08 a.m. Council discussed a litigation matter. Walt Eisenstein left the meeting at 9: 50 a.m. RETURN TO OPEN SESSION A motion was made at 10:10 a.m. returned to Open Session. McCall City Council Special Meeting August 1, 2008 Page 1 of 2 WORK SESSION City Attorney Bill Nichols advised that the City could accept MHM's application and schedule a meeting to decide whether to accept the application. Council had a discussion. ADJOURNMENT i Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 11:30 a.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting Page 2 of 2 August I, 2008 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council August 1, 2008 at 9:00 a.m. McCall City Hall (Lower Level) 216 East Park Street 9:00 a.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte EXECUTIVE SESSION Litigation — Pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345(1)(f) To communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending litigation, or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently likely to be litigated. WORK SESSION Marina Development ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. Special City Council Meeting Agenda August 1, 2008 t MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting Joint Session with the Payette Lakes Recreational Water & Sewer District Idaho First Bank 475 E. Deinhard Lane August 11, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Work Session Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 6:02 p.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Delaney, and Council Member Scott all answered roll call. Council Member Witte was absent. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; Walt Eisenstein, Deputy City Manager/Infrastructure & Community Development; Bill Nichols, City Attorney Payette Lakes Recreational Water and Sewer District members present were Bill Weida, Ed Catlett, Carolyn Johnson, Ross Mayfield, Jerry Vevig, John Hucks, Jamie Melbo, and Dale Caza WORK SESSION City Council and Sewer District Relationship Mayor Kulesza gave an opening statement and went over the progress that has been made to date. Mr. Vevig then introduced John Hucks, Attorney, to give his report with his meeting with City Attorney Bill Nichols. A proportionate ownership as well as the Payette Lakes Recreational Water and Sewer District (PLRWSD) as the plant operators were favorable scenarios of both the City of McCall and PLRWSD. Mr. Hucks then introduced the idea of collective bargaining or negotiation. There was a discussion. Mr. Vevig and Mayor Kulesza were both in agreement of moving forward together. The District Board and the City Council agree to move forward jointly. Council Member Witte arrived at 6: 30 p.m. It was agreed that Deputy City Manager Walt Eisenstein and District Administrator Jamie Melbo would coordinate a negotiation team. The District representatives will be Ms. Johnson and Mr. Weida, and the Council representatives will be Council Member Bailey with a second person to McCall City Council Special Meeting Page 1 of 2 August 11, 2008 be determined. City Attorney Nichols and Mr. Hucks are to provide some sample agreements for review as well as some examples of a decision making process. A tentative date of December 1, 2008 was set to have this process completed. General consensus was that Mr. Eisenstein, Ms. Melbo, Mr. Nichols, and Mr. Hucks are to meet prior to the December date to narrow and define the options into an outline and put together a committee. ADJOURNMENT I Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 6:55 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting Page 2 of 2 August 11, 2008 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council Joint Session of the McCall City Council and the Payette Lakes Recreational Water & Sewer District August 11, 2008 at 6:00 p.m. Idaho First Bank Community Room 475 E. Deinhard Lane 6:00 p.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte WORK SESSION City Council and Sewer District Relationship ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. Special City Council Meeting Agenda August 11, 2008 r- 1-7 .111.1•••• te 've12. 'Suk t• cp-Alt ""Dt1 a 9 r-el0 rel-7/T-r)" 41b +1 -01 1 ro9 o i N e._ Kok• a� VvLoti-e- k-er4t vo.lt vt," 6A\-7DLI, -:(z ,lAv\rvs ��; 'd MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting Fire Warden's House 1001 State Street October 16, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Tour Executive Session Return to Open Session Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 5:30 p.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, and Council Member Delaney all answered roll call. Council Member Scott and Council Member Witte were absent. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; Bill Nichols, City Attorney; Walt Eisenstein, Deputy City Manager/Infrastructure & Community Development; Brock Heasley, Parks and Recreation Director; Cindy Blackman, Human Resources Manager Also in attendance was Marlee Wilcomb, Historical Museum Board. TOUR Ms. Wilcomb conducted a tour of the Fire Warden's House. Council Member Witte arrived at 5: 35 p.m. Council Member Scott arrived at 6: 30 p.m. EXECUTIVE SESSION 1 At 6:35 p.m. Council Member Witte moved to go into Executive Session for: • Personnel - Pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345(1)b to consider the evaluation, dismissal or disciplining of, or to hear complaints or charges brought against, a public officer, employee, staff member or individual agent, or public school student; McCall City Council Special Meeting — Historical Museum Tour & Executive Session Page 1 of 2 October 16, 2008 " Litigation  Pursuant to Idaho Code �67-2345(1)f to consider and advise its legal representatives in pending litigation or where there is a general public awareness of probable litigation Council Member Scott seconded the motion. In a roll call vote, Council Member Witte, Council Member Scott, Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, and Council Member Delaney all voted aye and the motion carried. Council discussed a possible litigation and a personnel issue. RETURN TO OPEN SESSION 1 At 10:45 p.m. Council Member Scott moved to return to Open Session. Council Member Delaney seconded the motion. In a voice vote, all members voted aye and the motion carried. Council had a discussion on deferring action on the personnel appeal until October 23, 2008. ADJOURNMENT 1 Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 10:47 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting  Historical Museum Tour & Executive Session Page 2 of 2 October 16, 2008 AMENDED AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council October 16, 2008 5:30 p.m. Central Idaho Historical Museum (Fire Warden's House) 1001 State Street CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Council Member Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte REGULAR BUSINESS Tour of the Central Idaho Historical Museum site 6:30 p.m. EXECUTIVE SESSION Personnel — Pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345(1)(b) to consider the evaluation, dismissal or disciplining of, or to hear complaints or charges brought against, a public officer, employee, staff member or individual agent, or public school student. Litigation — Pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345(1)(f) to communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending litigation, or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently likely to be litigated. ADJOURNMENT Americans with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-7142 Amended Agenda Special Council Meeting October 16, 2008 10/16/08 Location of Executive Session Changed to The Fire Warden's House 1001 State St. " " " " " " " " " kio 1 1-D-"'`I Va >-? e9),,, " " t'I ArN 71--7 11' '902=Vii" Sira -7es>4d rsMac 4  +) VC() CI) r-j11-) " " " " " " 2 '-'(:?thl rl=" rr-61(it et-4 C36i;S 41-Ca4Ca 1C7T1 " 06 qo )emloi MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting McCall City Hall -- Legion Hall October 29, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Business Agenda Work Session Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL i Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 5:30 p.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Scott, and Council Member Witte all answered roll call. Council Member Delaney was absent. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; Bill Nichols, City Attorney BUSINESS AGENDA McCall Avenue Homes Community Housing Covenants Council reviewed the amended covenants for McCall Avenue Homes and requested that the document eliminate all references to renting. The lease amount was also reviewed. WORK SESSION i Impact Fees Anne Wescott gave a review of the final report on the impact fee study. There was a discussion on population census, changing the multiplier, the finalized report from Valley County, and specific projects. ADJOURNMENT Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 8:40 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting — Impact Fees October 29, 2008 Page I of 1 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council October 29, 2008 5:30 p.m. McCall City Hall (Lower Level) 216 East Park Street CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Council Member Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte REGULAR BUSINESS Lease agreement amendment for McCall Ave, Homes WORK SESSION Impact Fees ADJOURNMENT Americans with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-7142 Agenda Special Council Meeting October 29, 2008 mc--c_x),(( Ave, Ids go.,..4„. :4-, 4, cc> -,(c 1-e.vvfa( ✓yt Avme r--pA/;0e-ci, Fes( orb 1, (Le.-4 o �� U �D r‘SS 0 LA-3 ,ca. �f IAA �.- J t tzA,„,i-z4_0,2, I (ksk Let,(2_, ‘A. .)---><A-4;4•EvvS 6L2-12 toeTereCsm,tAS MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting Joint Meeting with the Payette Lakes Recreational Water & Sewer District Super 8 Motel Conference Room 303 South 3rd Street November 21, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call District Board Meeting Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL i Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 9:10 a.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, Council Member Delaney, and Council Member Witte all answered roll call. Council Member Scott was absent. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; John Lewinski, Water & Sewer Treatment Plant Supervisor. Payette Lakes Recreational Water and Sewer District members present were Bill Weida, Carolyn Johnson, Ross Mayfield, Jerry Vevig, John Hucks, Jamie Melbo, and Dale Caza. Also in attendance was Mark Mason, Idaho Department of Environmental Quality (IDEQ); Jennifer Beddoes and Betsy Roberts, CH2M Hill Engineers; Brett Converse and John Garlitz, J-U-B Engineers. DISTRICT MONTHLY BOARD MEETING I Cost Effective Effluent Disposal via Slow Rate Land Application Design Presentation Brett Converse and John Garlitz of J-U-B Engineers presented the presented a preliminary evaluation of the potential for a slow -rate land application alternative and a phasing plan for the jointly operated facility. Their analysis compared the impacts to facility planning that different growth rate assumptions can have on facility needs, costs, and phasing. They went over historical plant flow data, projected growth rate based on historical growth patterns, and gave a comparison of three growth rates: 2%, 3.5%, and 5.2% that showed how those effect the current treatment plant capacity. The analysis continued by comparing winter storage needs and acres required for a slow - rate land application system at the three flow projections. The remainder of the presentation compared capital costs and present net value of the three growth projections. The data presented was only a rudimentary analysis, and will need to be refined. There was an open discussion. Council Member Delaney asked if using actual plant flows for planning was an option for the city, rather than a fixed rate offlow per EDU (equivalent dwelling McCall City Council Special Meeting— Joint Session with PLRWSD Page 1 of 2 November 21, 2008 unit). Mark Mason of IDEQ replied with flow and growth rates are not set by DEQ, but can be area specific, as long as they are supported by historical data, and variations are taken into account. He also pointed out that 250 gal/EDU is a good planning number for a town with a full-time population, but for a recreational area it may be high. If too high, a planning number is used, something may be built that doesn't have enough flow or customers to support the costs. Mr. Converse reiterated that if the costs of all alternatives being considered are not refined into planning phases, it could unfairly eliminate an alternative from consideration, because the costs appear to be too high in a gross comparison. The discussion on growth rates and flow projections is a necessary first step to fairly compare the city's selected alternatives with the District's preferred alternative. The discussion continued covering land acquisition concerns, future growth costs, other disposal alternatives, and more on winter storage ponds. Mr. Converse and Mr. Garlitz reviewed three topics that the District has asked the City to address: 1) Come to an agreement on using a lower growth rate, now that there is an understanding of the effects a growth rate has on a facility plan. 2) Refine cost estimates for the City's two alternatives using the lower growth rate, in order to compare the District's plan equitably. 3) Quantify pollution trading costs, show how they are incorporated into the preferred alternatives, address how they affect the present value of the preferred alternatives, and discuss contingencies if trading is unsuccessful. Mayor Kulesza stated that there is a special Council meeting on December 5, 2008 to discuss what has been presented today. It was agreed joint meeting of the District and City needs to be scheduled as soon as possible after that. Jerry Vevig declared a recess to reconvene the remainder of the District Board meeting back at the District office. ADJOURNMENT I Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 11:00 a.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor Brenna Chaloupka, Acting City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting — Joint Session with PLRWSD Page 2 of 2 November 21, 2008 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council Joint Session of the McCall City Council and the Payette Lakes Recreational Water & Sewer District November 21, 2008 at 9:00 a.m. Super 8 Motel Conference Room 303 South 3rd Street 9:00 a.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte District's Monthly Board Meeting Cost Effective Effluent Disposal via Slow Rate Land Application Design J-U-B Engineers ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. Special Agenda November 21, 2008 It ' t"' 141 1 \pus v� 11 �� lti 1 /og7 1)°7' m Nel(w-e-t,c). Ukt --/1„,7 \(,-)K 113 % fig• L440Li 29/45 _ 3 s-14. 1i(-(-3.3y;kNivn /420, 1 t 1, 9 frw.I�.a,� EDO z (s-k--(c 3� dog l- �w��� 15 �� o� LA: UD ekl 100i-k/ v\ 6,Avv, Ivoeszwami "-k, c. VG�i,��� �5fs w a,„'k-S. \IL S � w‘ 1 C. b,,—e"r" Payette Lakes Recreational W ater & Sewer District Carolyn Johnson Bill Weida Advisors Present John Hucks, Legal John Garlitz, J-U-B Engineers Brett Converse, J-U-B Engineers Regular Meeting November 21, 2008 DirectomPresent Jerry Vevig, Chair Staff Present Jamie Melbo Dale Caza Ed Catlett (telephone) Ross Mayfield Chairperson Jerry Vevig called the meeting to order at 8:00 a.m. Jamie introduced Kris Meyer to the Board, who accepted the position of Front Office Assistant. She started on November 6. Executive Session: Litigation Ross moved to enter into executive session pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345 (I)(f) to communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending litigation, or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently likely to be litigated. It was seconded by (Bill. In a roll call vote the motion carried unanimously. .f�rydfecardthe wet ingtobeopen at8a5, andmlleda=estoreconvene ct the SrgxrBMotel An invitation had been extended to the McCall City Council to attend the presentation from J-U-BEngineers on the results of their preliminary assessment of the wastewater treatment system. Wastewater Treatment Facilities; Phasing Plan for Lagoon Treatment and Slow Rate Land Application Attending this presentation: Bert Kulesza, McCall City Mayor; Don Bailey, Claudia Delaney, Marcia Witte, McCall City Council Members; Lindley Kirkpatrick, McCall City Manager: John Lewinski, McCall City treatment plant operator; Jennifer Boddoes and Betsy Roberts, CH2M Hill Engineers; Mark Mason, IDEQ. Brett Converse and John Garlitz ofJ-U-B Engineers presented a preliminary evaluation of the potential for a slow -rate land application alternative and a phasing plan for the jointly operated facility. Their analysis compared the impacts to facility planning that different growth rate assumptions can have on facility ne cds, costs, and phasing. They chose to start with historical plant Deny data, as that is a known data point. A projected growth rate, based on historical growth patterns, was then chosen to project flows into the future. Choosing a growth rate projection dramatically impacts the planning period. A chart compared the effects of three growth rates: 2%, 33%, and 5.2%. Only at a 52% growth rate would the current treatment piant capacity be exceeded, likely by 2027. The analysis continued by comparing winter storage needs and acres required for a slow -rate land application system at the three flow projections. At a 2% growth rate, current treatment and storage capacity are sufficient through the planning period of2033, and the only need would be about 1000 additional acres for slow -rate land application. At the 3.5% growth rate, additional winter storage and 1500 acres would be required through the planning period. At a 52% growth rate, even more winter storage additions and 2100 acres would be required. The remainder of the presentation compared capital costs and present net value of the three growth projections. The group was reminded that this was a rudimentary analysis, and will be refined. For instance, the hand costs of 538,000 per acre are based on Payet to Lakes Recreational Water and Sewer District 2 Regular Meeting November 21, 2008 the purchase price of the District's 120 acres and J-U-B's opinion of probable costs for irrigation improvements for the site. Future acreage may not require the same expenditures to prepare it for land application use. During a question and answer session, Claudia asked Mark if using actual plant flows for planning was an option for the city, rather than a fixed rate of flow per EDU (equivalent dwelling unit). He replied that flow and growth rates are not set by DEQ, but can be area specific, as long as they are supported by historical data, and variations arc taken into account. A discussion of historical growth over twenty years for the area indicated 1.7% for the city, and is% for the district. An interesting fact that the data analysis shows is that although population has increased, overall flows to the plant have actually decreased. (This could be in part due to water conservation, as well as work the city has done to mitigate inflow and infiltration). Mark pointed out that 250 gal/edu is a good planning number for a town with a full-time population, but for a recreational area it may be high. If too high a planning number is used, like many areas recently, something may be built that doesn't haw enough flow or customers to support the costs. Brett stated that if the costs of all alternatives being considered are not refined into planning phases, it could unfairly eliminate an alternative from consideration, because the costs appear to be too high in a gross comparison. The discussion on growth rates and flow projections is a naxssary first step to fairly compare thecity's selected alternatives with the District's preferred alternative. Lindley, expressed concerns about the risk ofchoosing a solution that may box the city in and not allow for expansion in the future, for instance, no additional land being available to purchase for land application. Bill Weida responded that a solution should not be chosen that causes current citizens to pay for future growth. B•ett staled that land purchased now was an appreciating asset, and if future technology or needs changed, the solution would change to fit at that time. Lindley asked if JUBhad looked at other disposal alternatives. Brett responded that he is studying rapid infiltration basins to handle part ofthc effluent in wet years, when crops donl need full irrigation, developing a plan that would mitigate phosphorous on -site, He believes there is too much risk and uncertainty in pollution trading to fulfill the TMDL requirements for rapid infiltration as the sole disposal method. He would like to see a pollution trading implementation plan fast, or an active, successful project. He slated that slow -rate land application reuses 100% of the treated effluent to grow a valuable crop, and a lagoon treatment system has a low carbon footprint. Mark made it clear that the J-Ditch agreements with the farmers will not be renewed when they expire:, without each site being permitted as a re -use site, Not every property will be able to be permitted under the re -use permit. The agreements expire January I, 2017. Questions were fielded about winter storage, Brett stated that the treatment and storage ponds have to be operated to dispose of effluent, not for leak tests, and irrigation needs to be optimized. The NPDES discharge permit is very important for the 5% of the time irrigation won't begin early enough in the season. Marcia asked if the current treatment facility produced a class of effluent that would be permilable for 100% reuse. Mark affirmed that it did. belt and John reviewed three topics that the District would like to see the City address: 1) agree on using a lower growth rate, now that there is an understanding of the effects a growth rate has on a facility plan; 2) refine cost estimates for the city's two alternatives using the lover growth rate, in order to compare the District's plan equitably; and 3) quantify pollution trading costs, show how they are Payette Lakes Recreational Water and Sewer District 3 Regular Meeting, November 21, 2008 incorporated into the preferred alternatives, address how they affect the present value of the preferred alternatives, and discuss contingencies if trading is unsuccessful. Bert stated that the council plans to meet on December a to discuss this presentation, and agreed with Jerry that a joint meeting of the District and City be scheduled as soon as possible after that. ktrydeclamdamazy tora arveneat the District Off= Now:eitascateradadthe relrrinderOhiemeetbig Facility Plan Report Review of the presentation highlighted two main points: the city council now understanding what a high population forecast can do to planning, and Mark Mason's statement that DEQ has no set f)rnv requirement or population projection for facility planning, as long as the numbers utilized in the facility plan are supported. Brett reported that the preparation for today's presentation will be incorporated into the Facility Plan. City concerns of wet years and land application limitations will be addressed in site -specific plans, and Brett will Iamb incorporate rapid infiltration basins at any site for secondary use during wet years. Approval of Minutes Carolyn moved to approve the minutes of the October regular board meeting, it was seconded by Bill and the motion carried. Treasurer's Report Ross moved to approve the treasurer's report of October 2008, it was seconded by Carolyn and the motion carried. User Fee Rate Increase and Sewer Connection Permit Fee Proposals Jamie reviewed the previously approved and published sewer connection foe increase. Carolyn moved to keep the rate increase to 87,000 as published, effective February 1, 2009, it was seconded by Jerry and the motion carried. Jamie then reviewed the monthly sewer user fee proposal. If approved, it will result in a B.% increase in revenues. Carolyn moved to approve the sewer user fee increase proposal, to publish a notice in the paper and to hold a public hearing as required by Idaho code, it was seconded by Ross and the motion carried. Density Variance Policy The suspension of density variance procedure expired in October. St aff recommended to extend the suspension until a wastewater facility plan is in place. Carolyn moved to extend the suspension of the density variances until awastewater plan is in place, it was seconded by Jerry and the motion carried. FY2009 COLA The October cost of living index has decreased I% over a year ago, and the Board had granted an additional 3"/o COLA in August. Bill recommended no increase at this time, because the forecast is unknown, but January will reflect quarterly trends. Carolyn moved to take no action for a COLA at this time, to be reviewed again in January, it was seconded by Bill and the motion carried. Payette Lakes Recreational Water and Sewer District 4 Regular Meeting, November 21, 2008 r University Loop Gravity line Extension Update A response was received from the Department of Lands Director to the letter sent to the State Land Board regarding the easement for the gravity line through the U of 1 Field Campus. He backed up the area supervisor's {Sheldon Keafer} dental of an easement, stating that the line would split the property in half and impede future development. The Board agreed with Dale that either a different flow direction or an alternate route avoiding the field campus parcel should be pursued. He will have JUB survey for alternatives. If neither option seems feasible, another letter requesting a hearing or formal review by the Land Board will be drafted. The gravity line would replace two lift stations, one private, and one maintained by the District. Front Porch Dale has received a bid to build a porch over the front door in the amount of $3100. Carolyn moved to accept the bid and hire the contractor for this project, it was seconded by Bill and the motion canned. Legal Report L Pending easement/bill of sale packages for developments: No response has been received from Fox Ridge developers. The Payette Lakes Club Homeowner's Association doesn't exist, so documents need to be redrawn for executing by the correct entity. 2 Metroquip has responded with an unacceptable proposal At the Board's direction, John will send a letter restating an acceptable offer. Staff Report I. Office Property Addition_ Dale proposes attempting to acquire land adjoining the Jacob Street parcel, either a strip on the west, or a quarter acre on the south. Bill moved to acquire the services of an appraiser, it was seconded by Ross and the motion carried. John advised that what is needed is not an appraisal, but a market value estimate 2. West Shore Place- Mr. Stoddard and Water's Edge Condominium Association are working on an agreement in anticipation of the abandonment of the Districes 8' line. The work will not happen this fall 3. Lund Extension- The work on this project has been postponed until next year. Dale would like a Ietter with an updated deadline sent to Jon Lund. There needs to be either a demand for an additional security deposit or wording that all costs are the responsibility of Mr. Lund. John will get this drafted There being no other business, Bill moved to adjourn the meeting, it was seconded by Jerry and the motion carried. Submitted by. Jamie Melbo Jerry 'g, C °nV MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting McCall City Hall -- Legion Hall December 3, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Public Meeting Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 5:30 p.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, and Council Member Witte all answered roll call. Council Member Delaney and Council Member Scott were absent. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; John Anderson, Airport Manager Also in attendance was Rainse Anderson and Sarah Lucas of WHPacific, Inc., and Laura Jackson of Corvid Consulting. PUBLIC MEETING i McCall Airport Environmental Assessment Airport Manager introduced the representatives from WHPacific Inc. and Corvid Consulting before turning the presentation over to Rainse Anderson. The presentation included an overview and history of the Airport Environmental Assessment Committee (AEAC), the roles and responsibilities of the AEAC, and the Environmental Assessment process. Laura Jackson and Sarah Lucas gave the results of the field investigations. The evaluation covered the possible impacts of a potential future capital improvement project at the McCall Airport. There was an open discussion ending with the mapping out of future meetings date schedule. ADJOURNMENT Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 7:30 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor BessieJo Wagner, City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting December 3, 2008 Page 1 of 1 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council McCall Airport Environmental Assessment December 3, 2008 at 5:30 p.m. McCall City Hall (Lower Level) 216 East Park Street 5:30 p.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte PUBLIC MEETING Airport Environmental Assessment to evaluate the possible impacts of a potential future capital improvement project at the McCall Airport ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. Special Agenda December 3, 2008 (-2_Moe J4, -7., o McCall Airport Environmental Assessment Committee (AEAC) Meeting #1 December 3, 2008 Meeting: 5:30 — 7:00 p.m. McCall City Hall Attendees: AEAC Members City of McCall: John Anderson, McCall Airport Manager WHPacific, Inc: Rainse Anderson and Sarah Lucas Corvid Consulting: Laura Jackson 5:30 — 5:35 5:35 — 5:45 5:45 — 5:55 5:55 — 6:05 6:05 — 6:35 6:35 — 6:55 6:55 — 7:00 ,j , fi� r 1»'dw1 /r�).0 s, Ol/i Asr, ©rya re u,ov-q �d W � Set'? `a r (4 � c vl Q� ��1- Welcome and Introductions John Anderson and Rainse Anderson Project Overview and History John Anderson and Rainse Anderson AEAC Roles and Responsibilities Rainse Anderson Environmental Assessment Process Laura Jackson Results of Field Investigations Laura Jackson and Sarah Lucas Open Discussion All Future Meeting dates and times All MINUTES McCall City Council Special Meeting McCall City Hall -- Legion Hall December 5, 2008 Call to Order and Roll Call Approve the Agenda Business Agenda Executive Session Return to Open Session Adjournment CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Mayor Kulesza called the special meeting of the McCall City Council to order at 11:25 a.m. Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, and Council Member Delaney all answered roll call. Council Member Scott and Council Member Witte were absent. City staff members present were Lindley Kirkpatrick, City Manager; John Lewinski, Water & Sewer Treatment Plant Supervisor; Bill Gigray, City Attorney. Also present was Betsy Roberts, CH2M Hill Engineer; and Rick Bishop APPROVE THE AGENDA The agenda was amended to include the Warrant Register for December 5, 2008. Council Member Bailey moved to approve the amended agenda to include the Warranty Register for 12/5/08 as amended. Council Member Delaney seconded the motion. In a voice vote all members voted aye and the motion carried. BUSINESS AGENDA CH2M Hill Presentation Betsy Roberts, Engineer at CH2M Hill, gave a presentation on the wastewater treatment plant. EXECUTIVE SESSION I At 1:38 p.m. Mayor Kulesza moved to go into Executive Session for: • Litigation — 67-2345(1)(f) To communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending litigation, or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently likely to be litigated. McCall City Council Special Meeting December 5, 2008 Page 1 of 2 Council Member Bailey seconded the motion. In a roll call vote, Mayor Kulesza, Council Member Bailey, and Council Member Delaney all voted aye and the motion carried. Council discussed litigation issues. RETURN TO OPEN SESSION The Council returned to Open Session. ADJOURNMENT Without further business, Mayor Kulesza adjourned the meeting at 5:10 p.m. ATTEST: Bert Kulesza, Mayor BessieJo Wagner, City Clerk McCall City Council Special Meeting Page 2 of 2 December 5, 2008 AGENDA Special Meeting McCall City Council December 5, 2008 at 11:00 a.m. - 5:30 p.m. McCall City Hall (Lower Level) 216 East Park Street 11:00 a.m. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Council Member Don Bailey, Council Member Claudia Delaney, Mayor Bert Kulesza, Council Member Laura Scott, and Council Member Marcia Witte EXECUTIVE SESSION Litigation — Pursuant to Idaho Code §67-2345(1)(f) To communicate with legal counsel for the public agency to discuss the legal ramifications of and legal options for pending litigation, or controversies not yet being litigated but imminently likely to be litigated. ADJOURNMENT American with Disabilities Act Notice: The City Council Meeting room is accessible to persons with disabilities. If you need assistance, contact the City Clerk at 634-4874. 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