HomeMy Public PortalAbout05/13/1991CHAIRMAN:
VICE CHAIRMAN:
BOARD MEMBER:
ALTERNATE MEMBER:
Joan Orthwein
William Lynch
Donald McGraw, Jr.
Samuel Ogren, Jr.
Susanna Souder
Joan LaPorte
A. Curtis True
May 10, 1991
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PLANNING BOARD OF THE
O TOWN OF GULF STREAM, FLORIDA, TO BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 15, 1991
AT 9:00 A.M. IN THE TOWN HALL, 100 SEA ROAD, GULF STREAM, FLORIDA.
AGENDA
I. Call to Order
II. Roll Call
III. Minutes
A. Special Meeting of April 3, 1991
B. Regular Meeting of April 3, 1991
C. Special Meeting of April 23, 1991
D. Special Meeting of May 2, 1991
IV. Additions, withdrawals, deferrals, arrangement of agenda items.
V. Assignments from the Town Commission
A. Review of Proposed Ordinances
1. Ordinance #91/16; Establishing an Overlay District to be
known as the North Ocean Blvd. District
2. Ordinance #91/17; Restricting second story construction to
a maximum of 30% of the first floor area.
3. Ordinance #91/18; Providing for a maximum height for the
first floor finished floor elevation.
4. Ordinance #91/19; Providing for the preservation of trees
within the Town.
5. Un -numbered Ordinance; Amending the terms and duties of the
Architectural Review and Planning Board.
B. Review of existing zoning regulations
1. Building Height
2. Maximum Square Footage
3. Setbacks on waterways
VI. Items by Staff
A. Report of Construction in Progress
OVII. Items by Board Members
VIII. Public
IX. Adjournment
SHOULD ANY INTERESTED PARTY SEEK TO APPEAL ANY DECISION MADE BY THE
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PLANNING BOARD WITH RESPECT TO ANY MATTER
CONSIDERED AT THIS MEETING, SAID PARTY WILL NEED A RECORD OF THE PROCEEDING:
AND FOR SUCH PURPOSE, MAY NEED TO INSURE THAT A VERBATIM RECORD OF THE
PROCEEDINGS IS MADE, WHICH RECORD INCLUDES THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE UPON
WHICH THE APPEAL IS TO BE BASED. 286.0105, F.S.S.
REGULAR MEETING OF THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PLANNING BOARD OF THE
TOWN OF GULF STREAM, FLORIDA HELD IN THE TOWN HALL ON WEDNESDAY, MAY 15,
1991 AT 9:00 A.M. IN THE TOWN HALL, 100 SEA ROAD, GULF STREAM, FLORIDA.
I. The meeting was called to order at 9:00 A.M. by Joan Orthwein,
Chairman.
II. Roll Call
Present: Joan Orthwein Chairman
William Lynch Vice Chairman
Donald McGraw, Jr. Board Member
Susanna Souder Board Member
Joan LaPorte Alternate Member
Absent: Samuel Ogren, Jr. Board Member
Also Present:
III. Minutes
Dr. Curtis True
Franklin Flannery
John Randolph
Rita Taylor
Charles Velie
John Breazeale
Barbara Stenson
Digby Bridges
Mary Wendel
Perry O'Neal
Alternate Member
Town Manager
Town Attorney
Town Clerk
Town Resident
Task Force Committee Chair.
Town Resident
Architect
Town Resident
Town Resident
A. Special Meeting of April 3, 1991
Mr. Lynch moved that the minutes of the
April 3, 1991 be approved as circulated, seconded
voted AYE on a roll call vote.
B. Regular Meeting of April 3, 1991
Mr. Lynch moved and Mr. McGraw seconded
Regular Meeting be approved as circulated and all
C. Special Meeting of April 23, 1991
Mr. McGraw moved that the minutes of the
23,1991 be approved as circulated, seconded by -Mrs
AYE on the roll call vote.
Special Meeting of
by Mr. McGraw and all
that the minutes of the
voted AYE at roll call.
Special Meeting of April
Souder and all voted
D. Special Meeting of May 2, 1991
Mr. McGraw moved and Mrs. Souder seconded the motion to approve
the minutes of the Special Meeting of May 2, 1991. All voted AYE in a
roll call vote.
IV. Additions, withdrawals, deferrals, arrangement of agenda items
^ There were none.
f 1 V. Assignments from the Town Commission
���//J A. Review of Proposed Ordinances
1. Ordinance #91/16; Establishing an Overlay District to be
known as the North Ocean Blvd. District.
Mr. Velie questioned if golf courses should be exempt. and
Mr. Breazele stated that the Task Force does not want to include golf
courses. Mrs. Stensen believed the trees on the golf courses add to the
looks of the corridor. Mr. McGraw noted that the 50' of property on
the golf courses would not include the playing area and should be no
problem.
Attorney Randolph pointed out that there are no real estate signs permitted
in the corridor and that the Commission would like to have a recommendation
regarding this from the ARPB. Mrs. Stensen displayed the type of sign
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that is Permitted in the Town of Palm Beach which was small and displayed
only the words "for sale" and a phone number. There was a general co:. -
census that real estate signs should be permitted if they were of the
size used in Palm Beach and that they should be placed on the site of the
property that was being advertised for sale. Mr. Lynch moved and Mr. McGra
seconded that it be recommended to the Town Commission that Ordinance #91/1
be approved as written with the exception that a paragraph (d) be added
under section 2.F. to exempt real estate signs from prohibition provided
^ they are of the size used in Palm Beach and they are placed on the site
that is being advertised for sale. Roll Call: Mr. McGraw; AYE, Mrs.
Souder; AYE, Mr. Lynch; AYE, Mrs. LaPorte; AYE, and Chairman Orthwein; AYE.
2. Ordinance #91/17; Restricting second story construction to
a maximum of 308 of the first floor area.
Mr. Lynch felt this was too restrictive and it would not
be necessary to employ an architect for design because everyone would
be limited to the point everything would look very similar. Mr. McGraw
agreed and felt that the second floor could be 508 to 608 of the first
floor area and pointed out that costs would increase if the second floor
were not permitted to utilize the bearing walls on the first floor. Digby
Bridges agreed with Mr. McGraw and added that he did not feel the second
story would be a problem if the height of the structure is controlled.
Chairman Othwein wondered if some provision could be made to create a
"partial" second story and allow a greater percentage of lot coverage in
that instance. Mrs. Souder reminded that a two story house shades a
small house adjacent if it is not controlled. Mr. Bridges suggested that
a formula to create "daylight cones" could be worked out. Attorney
Randolph advised that Palm Beach and many other towns have this type of
provision and called attention to the insert that was a part of the
agenda packet showing a drawing and the provision for this used by Ocean
Ridge. Mr. McGraw suggested that any recommendation with regard to Ord.
#91/17 be delayed until the matter of height had been settled as it would
be much better to have an established point from which to start the
measurements. Mr. Lynchmovedthat a recommendation for Ordinance #91/17
be deferred until Ordinance #91/18 dealing with the first floor finished
floor elevation has been decided. The motion was seconded by Mr. McGraw
followed by roll Call: Mr. McGraw, AYE, Mrs. Souder; AYE, Mr. Lynch; AYE,
Mrs. LaPorte; AYE, and Chairman Orthwein; AYE.
3. Ordinance #91/18; Providing for a maximum height for the
first floor finished floor elevation.
Digby Bridges believed that the finished floor elevation
should be established at 1.5' above the crown of the road or 8.5' above
0 sea level, which ever is higher and that the maximum height of a building
should be measured to the tie beam rather than the peak of the roof. He
stated that the break in the flood insurance rates are at 8.5' and he
suggested anything less than that could expose the Town to some liability
in case of flood. Mrs. Stenson felt this would be too high and Mary
Wendel agreed. Mrs. Wendel stated that in checking some insurance companie
she had found no break in the rate. She reported that she had done a
survey of some of the properties that had been developed prior to 4 years
previous and found that there were no two story structures that exceeded
27' in height. She noted that a two story home results in less lot coverag
but that a 35' high structure adjacent to a one story home is just too high
Chairman Orthwein pointed out that what is being addressed in Ordinance #
91/18 deals only with finished floor elevation and maximum height of
buildings appears later on the agenda. Mr. Lynch moved to recommend that
the finished max. floor elevation be at 8.5' -above.0 sea level or 16 inches
above the crowm of abutting roads, whichever is higher, and that
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in the eaent the existing grade of the property is higher, then the
maximum first floor finished floor elevation shall be 6" above the
existing grade. Mr. McGraw seconded the motion and the roll call was:
Mr. McGraw; AYE, Mrs. Souder; AYE, Mr. Lynch; AYE, Mrs. LaPorte; AYE, and
Chairman Orthwein; AYE.
4. Ordinance #91/19; Providing for the preservation of trees
within the Town.
Attorney Randolph explained that there had been a question
at the Commission meeting regarding the applicability of the Ordinance to
the golf courses. He pointed out that this places no restrictions on
them as they are considered as being developed property and unless there
was a specimen or historic tree located on their property, developed
property is exempt. Mrs. Breazeale felt that the Palm Beach County Ord.
should be adopted by reference in order to make the provisions in Section
23 and 24 more restrictive. It was pointed out that if it is more restric-
tive, it will apply until such time as the Town creates one more restrictiv
than that of the County. The members of the Board were opposed to making
any reference to County Ordinances. The Town Clerk pointed out that this
ordinance places additional responsibility on the building department and
that members of this department are not really knowledgeable about plants
and trees. She reminded that if this increases the work load too much,
it will be necessary to add personnel to the building department. Mrs.
LaPorte suggested that Mr. Swan Brown might be asked to advised what trees
might qualify as specimen trees since he had been in the area for some
time, which would make it unnecessary for an individual to enter on private
property for the purpose of evaluating trees thereon. Mr. Lynch moved and
Mr. McGraw seconded that it be recommended to the Town Commission that
Ordinance #91/19 be approved as written. Roll Call: Mr. McGraw; AYE,
Mrs. Souder; AYE, Mr. Lynch; AYE, Mrs. LaPorte; AYE, and Chairman Orthwein;
AYE. Mr. Lynch excused himself and left the meeting at this point.
5. Un -numbered Ordinance; Amending the terms and duties of the
Architectural Review and Planning Board.
Noting that the Board was being given the review of permit
applications for demolition, Mrs. Souder felt there should be a provision
for a time delay before any demolition could take place. Attorney
Randolph explained that this could be done if there were a reason for such
delay such as the possibility the property was landmarked and time would
be needed for an investigation. He stated that without that status, the
most that could be gained would be the time it would take to review what
was planned for the property after demolition; that a permit cannot be
held up without proper justification. Mrs. Souder then moved that it be
recommended to the Commission that the amending ordinance to limit the
terms of the members of the Architectural Review and Planning Board and
O to add the responsibility of reviewing applications for demolition permits
be adopted as written. The motion was seconded by Mr. McGraw and the roll
call was: Mr. McGraw; AYE, Mrs. Souder; AYE, Mrs. LaPorte; AYE and
Chairman Orthwein; AYE.
B. Review of existing zoning regulations
1. Building Height
There were several suggestions regarding the maximum permit-
ted height of structures some of which were that there be a maximum of 27'
from the finished floor elevation, 30' from the finished floor, 22' to the
tie beam, 25' to the tie beam, etc. Most agreed that 35' to the peak was
too high except possibly along the beach. Mrs. Souder felt the Town
should be divided into sections with lower heights west of AlA and higher
structures permitted along the beach. Attorney Randolph felt that this
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could be done but advised that it would result in creating different
districts and that becomes much more involved. He noted that much had
been said about using the provisions that are used in other municipalities
but he advised that these were created for given situations and he felt
that what might work one place may not work in another. He suggested that
perhaps a planner should work on some of these proposals to determine
what the impact may be. Mr. McGraw suggested that perhaps Mr. Ogren, the
^ architectural member on the Board could meet with some of the Task Force
�) to give some guidance as to the effect the changes would have on the
neighbors and the Town, and then report back at the June meeting. This
suggestion was favorably received and Mr. McGraw moved that Mr. Ogren be
requested to meet with the Task Force representatives to evaluate and
recommend to the ARPB changes in the existing ordinances with regard to
the bulk, the height, maximum square footage, differentiation of districts,
and setbacks on waterways. The motion was seconded by Mrs. Souder. Roll
Call: Mr. McGraw; AYE, Mrs. Souder; AYE, Mrs. LaPorte; AYE, and Chairman
Orthwein; AYE.
VI. Items by Staff
A. Report of Construction in Progress
There was reported to be $8,249,649.00 worth of permitted
work in progress.
VII. Items by Board Members
A. Change of Regular Meeting Dates
Mrs. Souder advised that she has found she has a conflict with
meeting on the third Wednesday of the month and questioned if it would be
possible to change the regular meeting to the 4th Wednesday beginning in
September, 1991. She added that she had spoken to Mr. Lynch before he left
and he had no objection. Everyone present was agreeable and Mrs. Souder
moved that the date of the regular meeting of the Architectural Review and
Planning Board be changed from the 3rd Wednesday to the 4th Wednesday of
the month beginning in the month of September, 1991. Mr. McGraw seconded
the motion and roll call was: Mr. McGraw; AYE, Mrs. Souder; AYE, Mrs.
LaPorte; AYE, and Chairman Orthwein; AYE.
VIII. Public
There was no comment from the public.
IX. Adjournment
Chairman Orthwein adjourned the meeting at 11:45 A.M.
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Rita L. Taylor
Town Clerk