HomeMy Public PortalAbout2003.10.20 BAR Work SessionMINUTES BOARD OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OCTOBER 20, 2003
The Board met at 6:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers for a work session with Bowie -
Gridley Architects. The Architects presented elevation drawings for the Loudoun Street
addition for informal BAR comment. The meeting was open to the public who provided
many comments about the design process. After the work session the Board met in
regular session at 7:30 p.m. Members present were Mervin Jackson, Suzanne Kidney,
Bill Sutton, Teresa Minchew, Kelly Burk, Richard Forbes and Cliff Vaughn. Staff
members present were Kristie Lalire, Kevin Lawlor and Anne Marie Eaton.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE SEPTEMBER 15, 2003 MEETING.
Ms. Minchew moved that the minutes from the September 15, 2003 meeting be approved
as submitted.
Ms. Kidney seconded.
BOARD ACTION: Approved, vote 5-0-2.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Bar Case 03-87 : Request for approval of construction of a residence in the vacant lot
located at 6 Wirt Street NW. Portions of the application were deferred from the August
meeting and the application was deferred from the September 15, 2003 meeting pending
submission of information for final approval. Case 03-110: Request for approval of signs
for Better Windows and Doors and Johnson Roofing for the building located at 110 West
Market Street. Case Bar 03-111: Request for approval of new signs on the awning for
the Middleburg Bank entrance located at 4 South King Street. Case Bar 03-112: Request
for approval of signs for Plum Grove Cyclery located at 216 Loudoun Street SE. Case
Bar 03-113: Request for approval of a freestanding projecting sign for Salon de Belle
located at 217 Loudoun Street SE. Case Bar 03-115: Request for approval of two signs
for Esoterica located 25 South King Street. Case Bar 03-109: Request for approval of a
sign for Sports Barber Shop located at 10 Catoctin Circle SE.
Mr. Forbes asked for a motion to approve the above cases without discussion.
Ms. Minchew moved to approve the above cases as submitted, clarified and modified
tonight
Ms. Kidney seconded.
BOARD ACTION: Approved, 5-0-2
Case Bar 03-90: Request for approval of a sign for offices located on the second floor of
the building located at 120 East Market Street.
Ms. Lalire came forward and stated she had been in contact with the applicant on this
application. She stated the applicant has been in contact with the existing business owners
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about doing a directory sign and repainting the existing one. She stated the applicant
asked that the application be deferred to the November 17, 2003 meeting.
Ms. Burke moved to defer Case Bar 03-90 to the November 17, 2003 meeting.
Mr. Sutton seconded.
BOARD ACTION: Deferred, vote 5-0-2.
Case Bar 03.89: Request for approval of alterations to the building located at 109 South
King Street.
Ms. Lalire stated she had received the applicants information to late for the meeting. She
stated the applicant could not attend the meeting. There was a brief discussion about the
lighting that was already installed.
Chairman Forbes stated the Board would have to see the drawings before approving the
application.
Mr. Forbes asked for a motion to defer.
Mr. Sutton moved to defer Case Bar 03-89 to the November 17, 2003 meeting.
Ms. Minchew seconded.
BOARD ACTION: Deferred, vote 5-0-2
Bar Case 03-114: Request for approval of signs for Campbell, Miller, Zimmerman, P.C.
located at 19 East Market Street.
Mr. Mark Carlson of Sign -A -Rama came forward to address the board.
He stated he does not want to proceed with the sign for the entrance.
Mr. Forbes stated if the applicant wants to reface the existing sign it would have to be
reduced to 24 x 36. He stated the size of the sign is now larger then what is allowed in the
old and historic district.
Mr. Carlson stated the existing sign is 42 inches high and 36 inches wide. He stated he
was approaching this one as a sign maintaince. He stated a new sign will be produced to
replace this existing sign which will be the same size, shape, color and material. He stated
the existing sign has already been patched once. He asked if the Board would consider
this as a maintaince replacement.
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Mr. Forbes stated when you have an existing non -conforming sign you have a choice you
either repair or replace. He stated when you replace you have to meet the current
regulations.
There was a brief discussion about the history of the sign.
Mr. Forbes stated you can either erect a new 24 x 36 inch sign or repair the existing sign.
There was a discussion about non -conforming signs in the Old and Historic District.
Mr. Carlson stated the sign could be reduced to 24 x 36. He asked if he could use a sign
made of PVC.
There was a brief discussion about the use of synthetic materials in the H-1 district.
Mr. Forbes stated signs of synthetic materials are not allowed in the 11-1 district.
Mr. Forbes asked for a motion.
Ms. Minchew moved that Bar Case 03-114 be approved with the understanding that the
hanging sign will not exceed 24 x 36 inches; the design will be much like what was
submitted tonight only proportionally reduced with the details subject to staff approval;
the sign proposed for the portico will not be approved.
Ms. Kidney seconded.
Bar Case 03-116 Request for approval of alterations to the residence located at 222 Wirt
Street NW.
Ms. Lalire stated that she had been in contact with the applicant. She stated the applicant
told her that she would like to defer her application to the November 17, 2003 meeting so
she can submit architectural drawings.
Mr. Forbes asked for a motion to defer.
Mr. Sutton moved that Case Bar 03-116 be deferred to the November 17, 2003 meeting.
Ms. Minchew seconded.
BOARD ACTION: Deferred, vote 5-0-2
Case Bar 03-117 Request for approval of alterations, including a rear addition to the
building located at 213 Loudoun Street SE.
Mr. Zig Sibay came forward to address the Board.
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There was a brief discussion regarding the windows, elevations and the foundation.
Mr. Sibay stated the foundation will be a parged poured concrete.
There was a brief discussion about the bay.
Ms. Minchew stated the siding will be the same design and color as existing, she asked if
there will be cornerboards and will they be the same as the existing.
Mr. Sigbay stated they will be the same.
Mr. Forbes stated the framing around the windows will be the same as the existing.
Ms. Minchew asked if the windows would be all wooden?
Mr. Sigbay stated they will be wooden.
Ms. Minchew asked if the windows will match the existing.
Mr. Sigbay stated they will match.
There was a discussion about having TDL or SDL windows.
Mr. Forbes stated a set of revised elevations and a roof plan need to be submitted to staff.
Ms. Minchew asked about the parking spaces.
Mr. Lawlor came forward and stated the addition will create a higher demand for parking.
Mr. Lawlor stated they will need 3 more parking spaces then what is currently there.
There was a brief discussion regarding the parking.
Ms. Minchew that Bar Case 03-117 be approved as submitted tonight with the following
modifications and clarifications the siding material design and color will match the
existing as will the dimensions of all the trim and corner boards; the cornice and frieze
trim will match the existing materials and dimensions; the windows will be either TDL or
SDL all wood 6 over 6 sash with the specifications to be provided to staff for final
approval; the foundation will be poured concrete parged to match the existing foundation;
the foundation will not be cantilevered as shown in the drawings it will be flushed with
the new addition; the roof plan will be submitted to staff for final approval and will show
how the old and new sections will join; the projecting bay will be as discussed including
a cap instead of a gable at the top; a traditional bay in the placement of windows and
other details as discussed tonight; any lighting will return at a future date for approval;
any parking issues will be addressed and resolved with the town staff prior to
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commencement of construction; revised drawings of all elevations and roof will be
submitted to staff for approval as well.
Ms. Burk seconded.
BOARD ACTION: Approved, vote 5-0-2
Bar Case 03-118 Request for approval of amendments, including site furnishings, to the
Landscape Master Plan for the Courts Complex, located at 18 East Market.
Ms. Sharon Hodges, Department of General Services came forward to address the Board.
Ms. Hodges stated they will be taking out three trees. She stated she has been working
with Mr. Banks the Town Arborist.
Ms. Minchew asked if there were any alternatives to removing a portion of the fence.
Ms. Hodges stated due to ADA regulations they need to provide some kind of ADA
access of Market Street. She stated the turnstile that is there is not compatible for ADA
access.
Mr. Forbes asked if they remove a portion will there be any columns.
Ms. Hodges stated they will retain the end post.
Ms. Lalire stated the Board needs an elevation showing the details of the fence.
There was a brief discussion regarding the opening of the fence.
Mr. Forbes stated he does not want to see the turnstiles removed.
There was a discussion regarding the wheel chair access.
Mr. Forbes asked for a motion.
Ms. Minchew moved that Bar Case 03-118 with the following clarifications and
conditions there will be a 6 foot high black finish steel fence and gate as submitted with 4
inch square post at the rear of the courtyard; the site furniture will be as submitted; the
trashcan top needs to come back to staff; the walk way will be the proposed oval as
discussed tonight with final approval of design pending submission of construction
drawings; the brick patterns will be compatible with the character of the court house lawn
and will be incorporated with the final plan; there will be no approval for removal of the
fence section at this point.
Ms. Burk seconded.
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Richard Forb , Chairman
Ms. Lalire carne forward and showed the Board a picture of the Providence Baptist
Church. She stated the church has applied for a buffer yard reduction. She gave a brief
overview of what they were proposing.
Meeting adjourned 9:15 p.m.
Anne M. Eaton, Secretary