HomeMy Public PortalAbout01/24/2008MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING HELD BY THE
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW AND PLANNING BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GULF STREAM,
FLORIDA ON THURSDAY, JANUARY 24, 2008 AT 8:30 A.M., IN THE COMMISSION
CHAMBERS OF THE TOWN HALL, 100 SEA ROAD, GULF STREAM, FLORIDA.
I. Call to Order.
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Chairman Kent called the meeting to order at 8:30
II. Roll Call.
C) Present and
Participating
Hewlett Kent
Perry O'Neal
Donna White
Charles Frankel
Robert W. Ganger
Scott W. Morgan
Amanda Jones
Also Present and William Thrasher
Participating: Rita Taylor
William Wietsma
Marty Minor
Matt O'Connor
Chairman
Board Member
Board Member
Vice -Chairman
Board Member
Alternate Member
Alternate Member
Town Manager
Town Clerk
Agent 3232 Polo Dr.
Urban Design Studio
Resident
III. Minutes of the Regular Meeting and Public Hearing of 12-27-07.
Mr. Ganger moved and Mr. Frankel seconded that the minutes be approved
as circulated and all voted AYE.
IV. Additions, withdrawals, deferrals, arrangement of agenda items.
There were no changes requested.
V. Announcements.
A. Meeting Dates
1. Regular Meeting & Public Hearing
a. February 28, 2008 @ 8:30 A.M.
b. March 27, 2008 @ 8:30 A.M.
c. April 24, 2008 @ 8:30 A.M.
d. May 22, 2008 @ 8:30 A.M.
e. June 26, 2008 @ 8:30 A.M.
f. July 24, 2008 @ 8:30 A.M.
Chairman Kent announced these dates.
Vice Chairman Kent disclosed that he visited the site and asked if there
Owere any other exparte communications to declare. There were none.
The Chairman asked all who intended to speak to please stand and take
the oath.
Town Clerk Taylor administered that oath to Mr. Wietsma, Mr. Miner and
Mr. O'Connor.
VI. PUBLIC HEARING.
A. Items related to previous approval (continued from 12-17-07)
1. 3232 Polo Drive -William Wietsma
a. Approval of final landscape design
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Mr. Wietsma displayed a rendering of a revised landscaping plan and
distributed photos of the existing landscaping on the north side of the
property. He explained that the areca palm hedge on the north side has
been preserved and additional landscaping has been installed for
privacy. He added that the way the roof is pitched, there is not much
visibility to north and the south from the second floor. Mr. Wietsma
advised that there were some concerns about the wall on the front. How -
07 ever it has since been removed and replaced with coquina pilasters every
15 ft. with dwarf schillings in between.
The Chairman complimented the landscaping plan and asked if there were
any comments. There were none.
Mr. Frankel moved and Mr. Ganger seconded to approve the final
landscaping plan as presented. Roll Call: Mrs. White; AYE, Mr.
Frankel; AYE, Mr. Ganger; AYE, Mr. O'Neal; AYE and Chairman Kent; AYE.
VII. Code Review.
A. Multi -family Districts
Mr. Minor, representing Urban Design Studio, was present to review the
suggested changes in the multi -family districts and to encourage and
provide incentives to develop single family homes in the multi -family
districts.
B. Additional Architectural Styles
Mr. Minor displayed renderings of various architectural styles which he
describes as, Gulf Stream Coastal, Gulf Stream European, Anglo Caribbean
and Gulf Stream Contemporary
Chairman Kent was concerned about the lack of parking space at the door
of each multi -family unit and asked if this was addressed.
Mr. Frankel commented that the parking is limited by the lot size.
It was agreed the parking requirements are fine as proposed in Section
66-231.
Mrs. Jones commented that she liked the Gulf Stream European design as
it incorporates much of the existing Gulf Stream Bermuda features.
i Mrs. White commented that Gulf Stream Coastal has elements of a
U vernacular style, which is a discouraged element. She liked the Gulf
Stream European as it has a lot of classic elements that is currently
being used in the town.
Mr. O'Neal commented that the Gulf Stream Coastal is a nice blend and it
would work for both the multi -family and single-family districts.
Chairman Kent stated that he does not share the view that the homes are
looking cookie cutter. He is concerned about the eave projection on the
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Gulf Stream Coastal. He added that most of the elements that are being
presented on the various architectural styles are currently being
utilized.
Mr. Thrasher explained that on single family structures, if the overhang
is over 2 1-� ft. it is counted in the floor area ratio, he believes that
a 3 ft. eave projection would be acceptable in the multi family
l ) district.
Mr. Ganger commented that the community is changing and the Gulf Stream
European design has classic elements which would appeal to more people.
Town Clerk Taylor advised that there are multi -family districts that are
adjacent to single family districts and the motive was to incorporate
the multi -family with the guidelines of the single family.
The Board agreed that Anglo Caribbean, Bermuda, Gulf Stream Bermuda,
Georgian, West Indies, Dutch West Indies, Spanish Mediterranean Revival
and British Colonial be considered as other architectural styles for
multi and single family districts.
C. Standards for Tinted Window Glass
Mr. Miner distributed a sample of a window tinting material which would
transmit 70 percent of light. He added that stained glass side lights,
cloth or vinyl awnings on the front elevation is prohibited, except on
meditterean homes and hurricane shutters must match the body of the
house.
10:00 A.M., Mr. Frankel left the meeting and was replaced by Mrs. Jones.
Chairman Kent was concerned about the size of the divided/undivided
glass and asked for input.
Mr. Miner suggested adding language "in architectural appropriate
structures, larger undivided windows may be considered."
The Board agreed to discourage undivided panels larger than 2 ft. as
opposed to the current 4 ft.
Town Manager Thrasher asked if there are any legal concerns relating to
calculating fair market value on a structure.
UMr. Miner stated that there are none.
Mr. Ganger moved and Mr. O'Neal seconded to recommend approval of the
Code review on multi -family districts with the recommended changes.
Roll Call: Mrs. White; AYE, Mrs. Jones; AYE, Mr. Ganger; AYE, Mr.
O'Neal; AYE and Chairman Kent; AYE.
D. Boat Lifts
Mr. O'Connor, 549 Golfview Drive, who had been working with Mr. Parker,
1330 N. Ocean Blvd., explained that the current regulations on boat
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lifts/docks require that all lifts with a lifting capacity greater than
500 pounds be fastened to the seawall. These elevator lifts have
excessive hardware above the wall, in plain view of their home as well
as the neighbors and are not working in that the purpose of the
ordinance was to limit the size of boats. He added that with the
improved boat lift technology, the capacity of elevator lifts has been
increased in recent years and now provides lifting capacity for boats
�) weighing up to 20,000 pounds. Mr. O'Connor stated that he had installed
a 4 post boat lift and the town forced him to replace it with an
elevator lift.
Mr. O'Connor suggested limiting the weight and beam of boats with the
use of a topless lift. Additionally, the topless lift limits the amount
of lifting capacity and unsightly hardware in plain view. He
recommended placing the 4 post lift a certain number of feet from the
seawall.
Mr. O'Neal asked how far out into the waterway does the Army Corp of
Engineers allow the post be placed.
Mr. O'Connor stated that he was not sure of the regulations for Gulf
Stream.
Mr. Ganger stated that he is not familiar with boats but he understands
the need for a lift that restricts size and height and is also
attractive.
Chairman Kent agreed that the topless lifts are more attractive than the
elevator lift but he is concerned that in some districts the waterways
are too narrow to allow 4 post boats lifts.
Town Manager Thrasher agreed that the 4 post lift is more attractive
than the elevator lift. He asked the lifting capacity of a 4 post lift
verses an elevator lift. Mr. Thrasher stated that the current Code
regulates boat size. He was concerned about regulating size, weight,
height and width with a 4 post lift. The Town Manager feels it would be
difficult to administer what is being proposed.
Mr. O'Connor stated that that 4 post lifts can lift up to 30,000 pounds
while an elevator lift can lift up to 23,000 pounds.
11:20 A.M., Mrs. White left the meeting and was replaced by Mr. Morgan.
11:20 A.M., Mrs. Jones left the meeting.
Town Clerk Taylor clarified the changes being proposed to be: 4 post
lift be permitted provided the posts not extend over 4 ft. above dock
rail with maximum lifting capacity of 20,000 pounds, that the lift be
only a "topless" lift that will accommodate a boat with a maximum beam
size of 12 ft. with the entire installation to extend no farther than 18
ft. from the seawall.
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Mr. Ganger moved and Mr. O'Neal seconded to recommend approval of: 1) 4
post lift be permitted provided the post not extend over 4 ft. above
dock rail with maximum lifting capacity of 20,000 pounds, 2) The lift be
only a "topless" lift that will accommodate a boat with a maximum beam
size of 12 ft. with the entire installation to extend no farther than 18
ft. from the seawall. Roll Call: Mr. Ganger; AYE, Mr. O'Neal; AYE, Mr.
Morgan; AYE and Chairman Kent; AYE.
E. Basements
This item will be heard at the next meeting.
VIII. Items by Staff. There were no items by Staff.
IX. Items by Board Members. There were none.
X. Public. There were none.
XI. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned at 11:20 A.M.
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Yv nne E. Eckert, CMC
De uty Town Clerk