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HomeMy Public PortalAboutAvery Transcript 5/18/16 - Pt. 2KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 194 1 IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA 2 CASE NO.: 2014 -CA -006112 -AG 3 CITIZENS AWARENESS FOUNDATION, INC., 4 Plaintiff, 5 vs. 6 THE TOWN OF GULF STREAM; BRANNON & GILLESPIE, LLC, 7 Defendants. 8 9 VOLUME II OF II 10 11 12 DEPOSITION OF KELLY AVERY (VIDEOTAPED) 13 14 15 Wednesday, May 18, 2016 10:42 a.m. - 4:46 p.m. 16 17 2385 N.W. Executive Center Drive Suite 360 18 Boca Raton, Florida 33431 19 20 21 22 23 Reported By: 24 Mary M. Karns, Shorthand Reporter Notary Public, State of Florida 25 Boca Office Job #374075 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) S EsquireSolutions.com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM APPEARANCES: On behalf of the Plaintiff: JONATHAN R. O'BOYLE, ESQUIRE THE O'BOYLE LAW FIRM, P.C. 1286 West Newport Center Drive Deerfield Beach, FL 33442 Phone: 954.570.3533 Email: Joboyle@oboylelawfirm.com On behalf of the Defendant Town of Gulf Stream: ROBERT SWEETAPPLE, ESQUIRE SWEETAPPLE, BROEKER & VARKAS, P.L. 20 Southeast 3rd Street Boca Raton, FL 33432 Phone: 561.392.1230 Email: RsweetappleOsweetapplelaw.com JOANNE M. O'CONNOR, ATTORNEY-AT-LAW JONES FOSTER JOHNSTON & STUBBS, P.A. 505 South Flagler Drive Suite 1100 West Palm Beach, FL 33401 Phone: 561.659.3000 Email: Joconnor@jonesfoster.com ALSO PRESENT: MARTIN O'BOYLE CHRIS O'HARE ESQUIRE May 18, 2016 195 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 16 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 196 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM CROSS (KELLY AVERY) May 18, 2016 197 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. I have some cross examination. A. Okay. Q. Mrs. Avery, you started your testimony I believe the earliest date you were involved -- employed by the Town of Gulf Stream was in October of 2011? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And how small is the office -- the clerk's office where you work? A. Where I work we have four people. They have one temporary. Q. And how many offices are located in that space? A. Four. Q. And you were working I believe you said in accounting at some point? A. Yes. Q. And Freida was working handling public records requests? A. Yes. Q. And when did you -- did you -- at any point were you asked to help out with public records requests? A. The only time that I even assisted was when a financial records request came in -- Q. Okay. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 198 A. -- and then I would give a report for that. Q. Now, in 2011 were there any -- were there any large numbers of requests that were coming in? A. No. There was -- I mean I'm sure there was some, but if there was any we didn't -- me and Freida didn't do anything with them. Rita would take care of them, so I don't even know how many we got. Q. Any from Mr. O'Boyle or Mr. O'Hare? A. Not that I'm aware of. Q. Okay. And when's the first time you became aware of any public records requests from Mr. Martin O'Boyle? A. That was in early 2013. Q. Okay. And was that after he was denied architectural approval? A. Yes. Q. Building approval? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And how soon after he was denied that approval did public records requests start coming in from him? A. It wasn't too long. I don't know the complete timeline. It wasn't more than a month I don't believe. Q. What was the first -- the first request you C) ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) Esquire Solutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 1 1 recall? May 18, 2016 199 2 A. Requests I -- I don't remember because that 3 came in when I wasn't doing them. I just remember 4 that that was the day that the copy machine was 5 inundated with them. 6 Q. So no one in the office could use the scanner? 7 A. Correct. 8 Q. Or the copy machine? 9 A. Correct. 10 Q. Or the fax? 11 A. Correct. 12 Q. How many -- how many public records requests 13 came in from Mr. O'Boyle on that day? 14 A. On that day it was around 320. 15 Q. Okay. And did these requests continue until his 16 case was settled? 17 A. Correct. 18 Q. And he got his permit to do the construction he 19 wanted to do? 20 A. I belive so, yes. 21 Q. And how many requests did he file in that 22 interim before he got his request granted? 23 A. The way I understand it, from what I was 24 told, it was close to 500 after that. 25 Q. And at that time were you aware of any of his ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 200 prior conduct in the town of Longport, New Jersey? A. Before that, no. Q. Were you aware of his prior conduct with the State Attorney for Palm Beach County? A. I was not, no. Q. And so did you have any involvement in having to help out to serve his requests? A. No. Q. And were all of his requests met as capably as the Town could meet them? A. As best as we could. Q. Was the Town equipped to meet them? A. No. Q. And how many additional people had to get involved to meet those requests? A. We all did. I mean as best we could. Q. And did that keep you from doing your normal work? A. Me, myself, no, because I was not involved in it, but, you know, Rita and Bill and Freida at the time had to kinda push their work aside for a little while to do that. Q. So did Mr. -- did Mr. O'Boyle succeed in monopolizing the Town's time with his public records requests? f,) ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (33 76) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 201 A. Yes, he did. Q. And after the case settled did you understand whether or not Mr. O'Boyle was going to be filing any more requests? A. No. Q. And when was the next time you noted anything unusual in terms of the volume of public records requests that came into the Town? A. It was a few months later around late July, August. Q. And was that by Mr. O'Hare? A. That was. Q. And that -- was that immediately after Mr. O'Hare had an application to reroof his house denied? A. I don't know how immediate it was, but it was I guess shortly thereafter. Q. Have you ever seen or heard Mr. O'Hare testify or state that he did this in order to emulate Mr. O'Boyle? A. I don't know that. Q. And how many requests came in as -- were you -- strike that. Were you working as the public records clerk at the time that Mr. O'Hare started? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 202 1 Q. Okay. And that was -- that was Freida? 2 A. Um-hmm. 3 Q. And -- and what was the date, I'm sorry, on Mr. 4 O'Hare's beginning of his -- 5 A. I think it was somewhere around July or 6 August, early August. I know the very first one when 7 they started a log was August 27th of 2013. 8 Q. And why was a log started? 9 A. I think it just got overwhelming to keep 10 track. 11 Q. That was August 2013? 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. Okay. And what -- do you recall him making 14 requests of 60 on a -- on a day? 15 A. Seems about right. I mean there was some 16 days it was close to it maybe. 17 Q. And had you ever -- other than Mr. O'Boyle had 18 you ever seen anybody make those types of requests? 19 A. No. 20 Q. And were they always in Mr. O'Boyle's name or 21 did he submit them in other names? 22 A. The -- the first ones early on that he faxed 23 to us were always in his name. 24 Q. Okay. And then what happened? 25 A. Then it started -- when he started back up ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (33 76) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 203 1 they were other names. The ones that I had named off. 2 The CG Acquisitions and -- 3 Q. You're talking about Mr. O'Boyle? 4 A. Yes. I'd say that, yes. 5 Q. Yeah. Mr. -- Mr. -- Mr. -- Mr. O'Boyle 6 started -- did Mr. O'Boyle start making requests at the 7 same time Mr. O'Hare did? 8 A. It was shortly thereafter. 9 Q. Okay. So that you started getting -- 10 A. Again. 11 Q. -- voluminous requests back in from Mr. O'Boyle 12 and Mr. O'Hare? 13 A. Correct. 14 Q. In -- in the late summer or fall of 2003? 15 A. 2013. 16 Q. 2013, I'm sorry. 17 A. I believe so. 18 Q. Okay. And you -- 19 A. I don't remember exactly when it was. 20 Q. And that's when you started keeping a log; 21 right? 22 A. In August, yes. 23 Q. So the log is the best evidence of the -- all of 24 the requests that you've received? 25 A. Yes. jr ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (33 76) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 204 1 Q. Okay. And did Mr. O'Boyle and Mr. O'Hare ever 2 come in together? 3 A. Yes. 4 Q. How often did they come in together to make 5 requests? 6 A. Not often together to make requests. They 7 have. I remember one specific time they came in both 8 with cameras and made separate requests. Not a 9 request together. 10 Q. At the same time? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. And have they ever, to your knowledge, filed 13 joint suits against the Town regarding open government 14 matters? 15 A. Yes. 16 Q. And Mr. Jonathan O'Boyle said on the record that 17 you hadn't met before. Have you, in fact, met Jonathan 18 O'Boyle before? 19 A. Yes. 20 Q. On how many occasions has Mr. Jonathan O'Boyle 21 come in to make requests? 22 A. A couple times. 23 Q. Okay. And has he ever come in to ask for a copy 24 of the code? The Town code? 25 A. He did when -- before we had it on-line. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 205 1 Q. All right. And did you meet with him and show 2 him how to access the code? 3 A. I did. 4 Q. And has Mr. Martin O'Boyle ever come in and 5 personally dictated -- required that you write down his 6 1 dictation of public records requests? 7 A. Yes. 8 Q. And how many occasions has he done that? 9 A. Right offhand I -- I don't know how many. 10 It's been at least five or six. 11 Q. What -- how does he do that? Does he require 12 you to sit down and take notes for him? 13 A. No, I don't sit down. He just comes in and 14 sometimes he has them written down and he'll read it 15 to me and I'll write it down. Sometimes he just kinda 16 verbally just tells me and then I write it down and 17 then I try to do an intake. If it's not correct, then 18 he has me -- me correct it. 19 Q. So he -- he directs you what to do? Tells you 20 1 to correct it? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. Did you ever find that intimidating or 23 frustrating? 24 A. Not intimidating. Frustrating, but not 25 intimidating. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) Esquire Solutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 206 1 Q. Okay. And is there anyone else that comes in 2 and does that -- dictates public records requests to 3 1 you? 4 A. No. 5 Q. And you would just sit -- stand there until he 6 was finished? 7 A. Um-hmm. 8 Q. And how long would he take doing that? 9 A. Not a long time. 10 Q. Did you ever have any problems where Mr. Martin 11 O'Boyle came in and grabbed you or touched you 12 inappropriately? 13 A. He's put his arm around me and he kissed me 14 on top of my head once. 15 Q. Okay. And did other women in the office 16 complain about the same type of conduct? 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. And was a letter written to Mr. Martin O'Boyle 19 about that conduct? 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. Did he ever ask for your home address in the 22 public records request? 23 A. Yes. 24 Q. And was that provided to him? 25 A. No. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) Esquire Solutions. corn KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 207 1 Q. What did you do? 2 A. My information is exempt due to an abuse. 3 Q. So you exempted -- 4 THE REPORTER: Due to what? I'm sorry. 5 THE WITNESS: An abuse issue. 6 THE REPORTER: Please repeat. 7 THE WITNESS: An abuse issue. 8 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: 9 Q. So you exempted it -- giving it to him because 10 of an abuse issue? 11 A. Correct. 12 Q. And Freida was there working. You saw her 13 daily; did you not? 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. And she was the one handling the O'Hare and 16 O'Boyle requests that are shown by the log? 17 A. Correct. 18 Q. Did she ever complain to you about Mr. O'Boyle's 19 conduct? 20 A. She would say he was, you know, frustrating 21 at times, but not him in particular, but the issue, 22 what was going on with -- 23 Q. The whole group that was filing? 24 A. -- inundated, yes. 25 Q. And did you see, in your mind, the same manner ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 208 1 of action on behalf of Mr. O'Hare and Mr. O'Boyle? 2 A. Um-hmm. 3 Q. Yes? 4 A. Yes. 5 Q. And you saw them together? 6 A. Oh, yes. 7 Q. And you knew that Mr. Roeder was Mr. O'Hare's 8 lawyer; right? 9 A. Correct. 10 Q. Because he had been in there with Mr. O'Hare; 11 correct? 12 A. He's been in there with him, yes. 13 Q. Did you ever -- did you ever hear the word kill 14 shot used by anybody? A kill shot? 15 A. No. 16 Q. So you never heard Mr. Chandler write or discuss 17 kill shots as how you could file perfect public records 18 requests to get a lawsuit? 19 A. I've never heard that term. 20 Q. Okay. Did Freida tell you why she was leaving? 21 A. Stress from the job. 22 Q. And are you leaving the Town? 23 A. I am. 24 Q. And why are you leaving? 25 A. Stress from the job. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 209 1 Q. Okay. And is that stress from dealing with the 2 O'Boyles and O'Hare? 3 A. It is, yes. Yes. I love my job, but.... 4 Q. You don't want to put up with their -- their -- 5 their activities? 6 A. Not at all. That's not what I signed up for. 7 Q. So if you came in from a weekend thinking you 8 were caught up, would Mr. O'Hare spend his whole weekend 9 preparing voluminous requests and have them delivered to 10 you that morning? 11 A. Not necessarily that morning, but it would 12 be -- 13 Q. During the course of the day? 14 A. -- I'd do the log in the morning, yeah. 15 Q. And how many total requests -- have you ever 16 counted up how many total requests were filed by O'Hare 17 and O'Boyle? 18 A. I haven't done that, no. 19 Q. Do you know the total requests that were filed 20 since you were -- 21 A. I have looked on my log. 22 Q. How many on your log? 23 A. As of when I left yesterday it was probably 24 about 13 away from 2,200. 25 Q. Okay. And what percentage of the requests that ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 210 1 are served on the Town are served by the O'Boyles and 2 Mr. O'Hare? 3 A. I would say 97 percent. 4 Q. And are you aware of that happening in any other 5 town in the State of Florida? 6 A. I mean I'm sure there are because I've heard 7 of different lawsuits that are going on. 8 Q. With the same type of conduct? 9 A. Correct. 10 Q. And this has become an issue in the legislature; 11 has it not? 12 A. Oh, yes. 13 Q. And throughout the State? 14 A. Um-hmm. 15 Q. And do you know if CAFI is a bona fide 16 not-for-profit corporation or rather just something that 17 Mr. O'Boyle had created to hide the fact that he was, in 18 fact, the one making demands for public records? 19 A. I don't know for a fact, but I know I have my 20 opinions of what I said before, which was what I read 21 in Chandler's deposition, his affidavit and the 22 articles I read. 23 Q. And do you know if his son's law firm has been 24 filing lawsuits throughout the State purporting that 25 Citizens Awareness Foundation, Inc., was actually a ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 211 1 not-for-profit corporation when, in fact, it's just an 2 alter ego of Mr. O'Boyle for the purpose of looking like 3 it's a charitable enterprise in order to facilitate 4 obtaining attorney's fees? Have you ever looked into 5 that issue? 3 13 14 15 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. I've read that in articles that have been written by several newspapers -- Q. And -- A. -- and in deposition. Q. So you refer to Mr. O'Hare and Mr. O'Boyle filing requests in waves? A. Yeah. Q. Like an attack? A. I don't know if -- if it's necessarily an attack. I would say -- I don't know. Sometimes I feel it's an attack, but I don't know if I'd necessarily say it's an attack because I -- I -- I don't get the feeling that they're attacking me personally. I don't think any of this is at me personally. I hope not, but sometimes I take it like that because I think they know that I'm the one doing the records requests and I think that sometimes I feel like that's what they're doing to me. Q. When did you first learn about Mr. Martin O'Boyle's conduct in Longport, New Jersey, with regard ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 212 1 to making public records requests? 2 A. I didn't learn about it until probably after 3 I think our first lawsuit. It -- I don't think it 4 was -- I don't know definitely. I want to say it was 5 around the time of settlement, but I don't know if 6 that's for sure of when I learned of it. 7 Q. How did you learn of it? 8 A. Honestly, I want to say -- I don't recall who 9 brought it in there, but somebody brought an article 10 in that showed it. You know, they had -- it was 11 something they had pulled from the internet, but I 12 don't remember who. 13 Q. And -- 14 A. It was 2013. I don't remember. It was an 15 article that had been pulled off of the internet. 16 Q. Do you recall reading whether or not the 17 Longport clerk went to the hospital because of stress? 18 A. I know there was mention of that. I don't 19 know much else about that, though. 20 Q. Is it stressful to have public records requests 21 filed by Mr. O'Boyle and Mr. O'Hare in the fashion that 22 it has been done in Gulf Stream? 23 A. It is mainly because -- and I'm sure Freida 24 felt the same way, mainly because I know I try to do 25 my best in getting them out and it feels like it's ESQU11 IRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) . EsquireSolutions.com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 213 1 never enough. I feel like that they're attacking us 2 because we're not getting them out, that they've been 3 attacking us with the records requests. I say attack 4 and I don't mean as in viciously, but I mean 5 inundating us with the records requests and.... 6 Q. And are you fearful that we're -- that you're 7 going to be sued -- the Town's going to be sued if you 8 don't respond -- 9 A. Yes. 10 Q. -- properly or on time? 11 A. Yes. 12 Q. And how many times did Mr. O'Boyle and Mr. 13 O'Hare file suit against the Town, to your knowledge, on 14 public records and open government issues? 15 A. Over 40 -some -odd times. 16 Q. Is that stressful? 17 A. Very. 18 Q. Is that what you signed up for when you decided 19 to work in government? 20 A. No, not at all. I mean I know records 21 requests comes along with it and I have no problem 22 with doing records requests, like said before. Open 23 government, I believe it. 24 Q. And these complex requests, have you ever 25 1 concluded in your mind that they were written in a way ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) v O l O i I. 11 s EsquireSolutions.com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 214 1 to make it very difficult for you to find records to 2 comply? 3 A. I think at times, yes. 4 Q. And based on the volume of requests the Town got 5 from 2013 through -- to date, has it not only been 6 difficult -- has it been difficult to timely respond? 7 A. There's been times, yes. 8 Q. Has it been time -- has it been difficult to 9 thoroughly respond based on the volume of requests 10 you're trying to understand and deal with? 11 A. I think thoroughly respond within a 12 reasonable amount of time has been rough. I -- I feel 13 that in most aspects of our records responses that we 14 are very thorough. I'm not saying we're perfect, but 15 I think for the most part we try to be very thorough. 16 When you're limited on staff and time, it does make it 17 harder and then -- and, like I said, we're not 18 perfect, but I think that for the most part we do a 19 good job and we try to do our best. 20 Q. In addition to requests to Gulf Stream, has 21 Mr. O'Hare recently been making multiple requests to the 22 Jones and Foster law firm? 23 A. I believe, yes, my understanding. 24 Q. Okay. And -- and have you had to become 25 1 involved in those at all? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) 1 11 EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 215 1 A. Some of them I do, yes, when -- I know 2 they've been trying to steer a lot of them to us 3 because it's supposed to go through the Town clerk, so 4 I know a lot of them in that way have been coming to 5 1 us. 6 Q. Do you know if he made hundreds of requests over 7 the holidays last year around Thanksgiving and 8 Christmas? 9 A. I do know that he did. 10 Q. That's how he spent his holidays. Making public 11 requests to law firms? 12 A. Um-hmm. 13 Q. And now he started making numerous public 14 records requests after his hearing on his roof; correct? 15 A. I wouldn't say 100. He's made -- 16 Q. No, extensive requests. 17 A. He has made several, yes. 18 Q. So what's the longest period you'd say that the 19 Town has gone without Mr. O'Boyle or Mr. O'Hare or one 20 of their employees or companies making a public records 21 request? Ever go a day or two days? 22 A. Oh, yes, yeah. I think I got excited one 23 time when we went almost two -and -a -half weeks. I was 24 like yes. 25 Q. And people in the Town when they come into ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) Esquire Solutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 216 meetings, do they ever complain to you about Mr. O'Boyle's conduct? A. Um-hmm. I've had a lot of people voice that they're upset with what's going on. How they're going about things. Because I don't like to discuss the legal matters and I'm not fully knowledgeable on everything, I don't discuss it with them. I let them say their peace, but I have had people tell me they're disgusted. Q. They're disgusted? A. Um-hmm. Q. How many people have come up and said they were disgusted with Mr. O'Boyle -- Martin O'Boyle's conduct? A. I'd say a good handful. Right offhand I would say around four or five. Q. And what about Mr. O'Hare? A. Same thing. They kinda lump them together. Sorry. Q. People in the Town lump them together? A. Yeah. They call them the O's. Q. They call them what? The 0's? THE REPORTER: The what? THE WITNESS: The 0's. BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: Q. The 0's? O ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (33 76) Esquire Solutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 217 1 A. Sorry. The 0's. 2 Q. I'm not going to do it now, but if you had a 3 copy of the log in front of you, would you be able to 4 identify which records requests you believe came from 5 Mr. O'Boyle or his employees or his entities? 6 A. Um-hmm. 7 Q. That's yes? 8 A. Yes. Sorry. 9 Q. And what about with Mr. O'Hare? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. Would you be able to do that for the court? 12 A. Um-hmm. 13 Q. You really don't have any personal knowledge 14 regarding how CAFI's being run or who's running it; do 15 you? 16 A. No. 17 Q. You don't have any knowledge whether or not 18 they've complied with the law with regard to 19 not-for-profit corporations; do you? 20 1 A. No. 21 Q. So as I understand your testimony, when an 22 estimate comes in from a contractor, you don't negotiate 23 with that contractor; right? 24 A. No. 25 Q. Have you explained to them that -- that they're ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (33 76) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 218 1 to give you their lowest estimate from -- 2 A. Yes. 3 Q. -- their lowest employee who can do the work? 4 A. Um-hmm. 5 Q. And have you ever dealt with Mr. Brannon before 6 asking him for an estimate for records? 7 A. Yes, whenever -- because I was on the 6 financial end of it before, we try to keep track of 9 the expenses for the utility project and so since I 10 was writing the checks for that, he would want to keep 11 an updated list on what the expenses were so he could 12 keep track for his budget. 13 Q. And was 195 what he charged for other requests? 14 A. I'd have to look back. I don't know if 15 we've -- I don't know if we've -- right offhand if 16 we've done any requests regarding him since then where 17 we've had to use this rate. I would have to look. I 18 know -- I think there might have been one previous 19 other one that she had done, but I don't know. 20 Q. And you weren't involved with Exhibit 2; right? 21 A. No. 22 Q. And what about was there a supplement given? 23 A. There was. 24 Q. Okay. 25 A. In June. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 219 1 Q. And you weren't involved with that either? 2 A. That one I did do. 3 Q. Oh, you did the supplement? 4 A. That one that was when I had -- because I 5 had to get over in May. I believe between March and 6 then -- around there we got served with a lawsuit, if 7 I'm correct. And then right after that was we went 8 ahead and sent a supplemental because, like I said, I 9 don't know what she was thinking when she did that. I 10 don't know if it was read correctly and maybe that's 11 why the only reason she went towards just Brannon for 12 the quote, but we ended up giving another quote just 13 for the items that just the Town has. 14 Q. Okay. And -- 15 THE REPORTER: That just the Town what? 16 THE WITNESS: That just the Town has. 17 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: 18 Q. And was that quote -- 19 THE REPORTER: Had? 20 THE WITNESS: Has. 21 THE REPORTER: Thank you. 22 BY MR. SWEETAPPLE: 23 Q. Was that quote ever paid? 24 A. No. 25 Q. Did you get the impression that perhaps the ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 220 1 requestor really didn't want these documents? They were 2 just looking to create a lawsuit? 3 A. There's times that I think that, yes. 4 Q. For instance, has Mr. O'Hare ever -- before you 5 gave estimates did you allow Mr. O'Hare to come in and 6 make requests and then bill him for the copies after you 7 made them? 8 A. I -- I believe in the beginning when Freida 9 had it is when all this occurred before. When Freida 10 was doing it, she would do the work and send him the 11 amount what it was. So she would produce the 12 documents, tell him how much it would be and then he'd 13 say he'd pick it up and it never was ever picked up. 14 Q. So he just -- 15 A. That's the way I understand it. 16 Q. Okay. So, and that was what Freida told you? 17 A. That's what -- yes. 18 Q. And so how often did she tell you that Mr. 19 O'Hare would make the request for documents, you would 20 copy them, and then he wouldn't come and pick them up 21 and pay? 22 A. I don't know how many times she'd tell me 23 that. I just know that that was the situation. 24 Q. And was there a total that he owed at some 25 point? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 221 1 A. There was. I don't remember. I want to say 2 it was somewhere around 700 -some -odd dollars because 3 we were sending out a -- like a letter every time that 4 he sent a request in after that and remind him that he 5 had that to pay before any more were issued. 6 Q. Did he ever come in and pay it? 7 A. No. 8 Q. Okay. What did you do with all the records he 9 requested? 10 A. They usually go back -- 11 Q. Okay. So -- 12 A. -- because after 30 days right after that was 13 around the time where I believe the personnel -- or 14 not personnel, the public records policy went into 15 effect and made it to where after 30 days of no 16 activity within a records request we close the 17 account -- or close the request. 18 Q. And was there a time -- 19 A. If he wanted that stuff again, he could have 20 put another one in and we would have produced the 21 records with a deposit first and then we would -- 22 Q. So did the people in the office conclude and 23 discuss that Mr. O'Hare was just making requests to make 24 work for you and cause expense and then just left them 25 there? ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM A. There was discussion about that, yes. Q. And how'd that make you feel as a public May 18, 2016 222 servant? A. It was aggravating because it's like we do have other stuff to do besides billing them for nothing. Q. Now, this training that you went to, that was at FAU? A. Um-hmm. It was a -- it wasn't at FAU. It was sponsored by FAU. We usually had them here in Boca. Q. Was there any discussions at the training about abuses of the public records laws by pockets of people in the State of Florida? A. Yes, they did advise on that. Q. Did they discuss the O'Boyles at that seminar? A. They did not say the O'Boyle's, no. Chandler's name was brought up. He's pretty well known. Q. He's -- he's the one that originated the kill shot, right, or you don't know? A. I don't know who originated it. I don't know. They showed videos of people doing -- going to talk to other people and a lot of videos that he did where he went and basically tried to show people -- ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 223 1 like they went -- in the class they went on his 2 website and showed videos of what not to do, you know, 3 or how people have reacted when he's gone and asked 4 for records, you know, and mistakes they've made and 5 things like that. 6 Q. So they showed Chandler's website? 7 A. Correct, yes. 8 Q. No discussion of the O'Boyles? 9 A. No, I can't -- 10 Q. Or The O'Boyle Law Firm? 11 A. No, no. They mostly brought up Chandler. 12 They were aware of it, though. 13 Q. People at the -- 14 A. Not people. The instructor. He saw we were 15 from Gulf Stream and he said, oh, I know about y'all. 16 Q. He said what? 17 A. I know about y'all and the issues you're 18 going through with -- I don't remember exact who he 19 said, but he did say Chandler and the crew, but I 20 don't -- I'm saying crew because I don't remember the 21 other name that he used, but he said Chandler and 22 somebody else and I know it wasn't O'Boyle, but it was 23 somebody else and we just kinda laughed and that was 24 it. 25 Q. Okay. I don't have any further questions at ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 224 1 this time. I'm presuming Mr. O'Boyle has some redirect. 2 Five-minute break? 3 MR. O'BOYLE: Yeah. 4 MR. SWEETAPPLE: That's fine? 5 MR. O'BOYLE: Yeah. 6 (A break was taken.) 7 REDIRECT (KELLY AVERY) 8 BY MR. O'BOYLE: 9 Q. Okay. Now, you said that Gulf Stream is a small 10 town? 11 A. Um-hmm. 12 Q. Four -people staff? 13 A. Um-hmm. 14 Q. How many locations are there for records? 15 A. Well, I guess if you were going to consider 16 what documents have a -- the police department, then 17 two. 18 Q. Okay. 19 A. Well, three because we have some out in the 20 back. The big plans. 21 Q. I'm -- I'm sorry. I didn't hear you. 22 A. The big plans. The permits, you know, like 23 blueprints and stuff like that of buildings they 24 rebuilt we have them stored in the back right now in 25 our maintenance building. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 225 1 Q. Okay. 2 A. So I guess if you want to be technical, it's 3 three. 4 Q. So -- so Gulf Stream's not a big city like -- 5 like New York City where there's multiple -- 6 A. No, no. 7 Q. -- buildings, multiple departments. Finding a 8 record is somebody is always within earshot who knows 9 where the record is? 10 A. For the most part. 11 Q. Okay. 12 A. I mean an area. 13 Q. So -- so sometimes being small has its 14 1 advantages? 15 A. Some, yeah. 16 Q. Okay. Let's see. You -- now, you -- you made 17 an insinuation that there's public records and then 18 there's normal work? 19 A. Um-hmm. 20 Q. Okay. Is -- are public records not part of -- 21 A. They are part of normal work. It's the 22 excess is what I was referring to. The excess of 23 public records -- I mean every town's going to have 24 public records. Most, you know -- and depending on 25 1 the size of the city I'm sure it's different. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (33 76) EsquireSolutions. com 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 226 I've worked in a little larger town, Lake Park, and based on -- like I said, maybe around ten or 20 in the time that I was there, so to me that's normal. 2,200 is, to me, excessive. So when you get that many compared to, you know, ten or 20, it does cause you not to be able to do your other regular work, you know, that has to be done in the course of a Town employee. Q. Okay. So, but I just want to be clear that public records is part of -- A. Yes. Q. -- that's part of the -- if you're a town, that's - - A. Yes. Q. -- that's part of it? A. Yes. Q. Okay. And you mentioned something about Longport, New Jersey. What do you know about Longport, New Jersey? A. Hardly anything. I know what I've read in the article and that's pretty much it. Q. Yeah, you -- you mentioned an article. A. Um-hmm. Q. Is there a reason you didn't tell me about that earlier? r� ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 it 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 227 A. Because I didn't think it went with any of the answers (sic) that you had asked me. I don't know what it would have gone with. I know you -- it was regarding O'Boyle itself, not Citizens Awareness and that's what I was referring to was -- was discussed about, Citizens Awareness. If it said Citizens Awareness, I don't remember it in that article. I just remember it saying O'Boyle and that's the only reason. Q. Okay. So -- so when I asked for what documents are out there to support -- A. No, I said articles. Q. Okay. You said -- but you did not say Longport articles; did you? A. No, I didn't. I didn't specify -- Q. Okay. What other -- A. -- what articles. Q. What is the whole list of articles then? A. What I -- I mean I don't -- there's -- I see articles all, you know, across the board on anything, you know. We get all kinds and the newspapers got them all over the place. Q. Sure, and -- A. But I'm just saying I remember seeing an article regarding O'Boyle and Longport. It didn't 4)ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) 9 0 1 U. 1 0 N 9 Esquire Solutions.com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 228 1 have anything to do with this case, -- 2 Q. Okay. 3 A. -- so that's why I did not bring it up. You 4 asked for what would be regarding this case and that's 5 what I told you. 6 Q. Okay. Is -- for any of my questions I -- I did 7 not want to give the impression that it had to be 8 strictly about this case. Would -- do you -- are you -- 9 I'm sorry. Let me back up. Do you need to amend any of 10 your answers to any of -- 11 A. No. 12 Q. -- the questions I've asked? 13 A. No. If it was not regarding this specific 14 case, then I would say all -- several articles. I 15 mean I can't say each one is specific. I mean I don't 16 remember if the Longport one said anything about 17 Citizens Awareness. 18 I was referring to when you asked me what 19 documents would have gone in my thinking -- or 20 thinking on this, I said articles and when I was 21 referring to that I was referring to the Chandler 22 articles. I was not referring to the Longport one 23 because I don't remember it saying anything about 24 Citizens Awareness, so I was not referring to that. 25 Q. Okay. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 229 1 A. If it did then I apologize for leaving that 2 one out. 3 Q. Okay. And, no, now's the time to fix it. 4 A. I don't think I have to fix it because I 5 don't remember it saying it in it. If it does, then 6 by all means I guess fix it. 7 Q. Okay. Let -- let me ask generally. 8 A. I don't remember it being in there. I 9 quickly glanced at it, I read it and moved on with my 10 day. 11 Q. So -- so Mr. Sweetapple just asked you several 12 questions. 13 A. Um-hmm. 14 Q. You gave answers. 15 A. Um-hmm. 16 Q. What did any of those questions or answers have 17 to do with this case? 18 MR. SWEETAPPLE: Object to the form. Legal 19 conclusion. 20 THE WITNESS: I don't know. I just answered 21 the questions that were asked of me if I could. 22 BY MR. O'BOYLE: 23 Q. Okay. Did -- did you rehearse those questions? 24 A. We had talked that he was going to cross 25 examine me. e"ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 230 1 Q. Okay. And those questions specifically? 2 A. No, he didn't go into what questions 3 specifically. 4 Q. Okay. 5 A. I'm just answering honestly. If you had 6 asked me similar questions like that, I would have 7 answered -- 8 Q. Okay. 9 A. -- similar answers. 10 Q. So you -- you spoke of maybe feeling frustrated 11 and I don't want to say attacked because I don't -- I 12 think you said not attacked by the records requests? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Okay. I just want to make sure we're clear. 15 A. No, I don't feel attacked. I just feel like 16 it was a -- to get us -- I feel like it was like 17 trying to drive us nuts. I felt, you know -- I was 18 frustrated because of it. 19 Q. Is -- is there -- is there a chance that maybe 20 the people on the list, Mr. O'Boyle, Chris O'Hare, 21 might -- might be frustrated themselves? 22 A. It's possible. 23 MR. SWEETAPPLE: Form. 24 BY MR. O'BOYLE: 25 Q. Okay. Have you ever sat in on some of the Town ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) Esquire Solutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 1 1 Hall meetings? May 18, 2016 231 2 A. Some. 3 Q. Okay. 4 A. Not a lot. I try to get my other stuff done. 5 Q. No -- no problem. 6 A. The clerk is there for that. 7 Q. Did -- have you -- have you ever seen Mr. 8 O'Boyle or Mr. O'Hare try to ask a question during 9 public comment? 10 A. I have seen that, yes. 11 Q. Have you ever seen Mayor Morgan say we're not 12 answering any questions that you want to give us? 13 A. I have. 14 Q. Okay. Do you think that could cause some 15 frustration? 16 A. I do, but at the same time I understand it 17 because it is custom or -- it's comment time, not 18 question time, so I understand that. In other towns 19 I've been to, they didn't allow questions either, so I 20 understand the other side of it. I see both sides. I 21 understand you want answers to your questions. I 22 understand. I have no problem with that, but at that 23 time it is common, you know, and I've never seen any 24 other town answer during comment time, -- 25 Q. Sure. If -- ESQUIRE800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolufions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 232 1 A. -- so I see both sides. 2 Q. Right. Yeah, no. So -- so -- so let me -- let 3 me put it this way. If I wanted a question asked about 4 the Town or Mr. O'Boyle or O'Hare or anybody, how do 5 they ensure that they get answers? 6 A. Because I'm not on that end of it, -- 7 Q. Right. 8 A. -- my advice -- I don't know if it's -- I 9 don't know. My advice is to go talk to them 10 afterwards or make an appointment and come in and talk 11 to Rita or Bill. I don't know. I mean that's -- 12 those would be my things. I don't know if those have 13 been tried. I don't see that end of it. I don't hear 14 that end of it if it has. I apologize if I haven't, 15 but that would be my advice. 16 Q. And -- and if Mr. Thrasher may have told to 17 Mr. O'Boyle at one point that he needs bodyguards in the 18 Town Hall, -- 19 A. I'm not aware of that. 20 Q. -- how is he supposed to get information if he 21 need bodyguards? 22 A. I'm not aware of that, so I -- I can't 23 comment on that one. 24 Q. Is -- is -- are public records requests a viable 25 1 way to get information when nobody else is talking to ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSol utions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 233 1 J you? 2 A. Public records requests are a great way to 3 get documents if you're trying to get information from 4 them, yes. I understand that. 5 Q. Much more efficient to have a question answered? 6 A. It is. More -- less work for me. 7 Q. Right. I'm -- I'm assuming when you have a -- 8 when you need to know some information, you ask a 9 question and it gets answered. You don't have to make 10 public records requests and -- 11 A. No. 12 Q. -- fiddle around with language or any of that? 13 A. No. 14 Q. Okay. Let's see here. Now -- now, you said 15 sometimes that you -- you feel like records requests 16 were just being made just for the sake of being made? 17 A. Sometimes I feel that way. 18 Q. Okay. 19 A. Especially when, you know, you -- you make -- 20 you get all these requests. You either fill them or 21 you give a quote and then they never get responded to, 22 you know. They just sit there because I -- I go 23 through and I -- every month I try, try, to go 24 through -- 25 Q. Right. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions.com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 234 1 A. -- and see which ones haven't been responded 2 to within the 30 days and then I close them out and it 3 kinda upsets me -- not that I want to do the extra 4 work, but it kinda upsets me that I've gone through 5 and I've made the effort to get the quote and then 6 they go unanswered, you know, and it's like I tried, 7 you know, but like why do we do the work. 8 Q. Sure. Have you -- if you ever -- let me ask 9 this. Have you ever gotten a request where you 10 suspected that might happen and you respond to the 11 requestor and say when are you coming in to pick this 12 up? 13 A. No, no. One, because I never -- I never ask 14 when you going to come pick this up because I figure 15 if you want this, one, it's going to be on-line if -- 16 if I can do it. 17 Q. That's a good point. 18 A. Two, if you want it you're going to pay for 19 the deposit. I'm talking about yours because I've 20 been holding on to your flash drive. 21 Q. And I apologize. I've been in New Jersey. 22 A. I figured you're paying for it, so -- but 23 anyways, you know, not since I -- we changed the 24 policy and made it to where the deposits are first 25 I -- I don't -- I mean there's times, like I said, ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 235 1 when I go through and nothing's been paid, I wonder 2 why did they even put it through if they're not going 3 to do anything with it. 4 Q. Do -- do you fulfill the request before you 5 submit the estimate? 6 A. No. 7 Q. Okay. So you make -- you roughly make an 8 estimate? 9 A. No, that's what I said; remember? When they 10 come in if I know I for sure know exactly what it is 11 and I can easily access it, I submit and give you the 12 response immediately with the responsive records. If 13 it's something else, then I give it to whoever it goes 14 to. 15 If they can't give it to me real quick, then 16 they give me the quote and they're the ones that tell 17 me how long it's going to take and then I come up with 18 the estimate now based on the hourly time or however 19 long they say it's going to take. I multiply that by 20 the rate and that's the deposit amount. That's what I 21 send out. So it's not me saying, you know, give me 22 this amount of money first, you know. 23 Q. Sure, sure. 24 A. They tell me what they think it is, so I've 25 gone through and I've asked. They look a little bit ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 236 1 to see if it's something they can get within an amount 2 of time. If it's not then they, you know, give me an 3 estimate, you know, of how long they think it's going 4 to take. 5 Q. Okay. 6 A. So it's not like I've -- I've gotten anything 7 or -- and then hold on to it until you pay me. We 8 won't even go that far until I know it's something 9 you're actually wanting. You know, if you're wanting 10 to spend the money and have us do the -- you know, the 11 work, sometimes it's very intensive. 12 Q. Sure. 13 A. You know, but, no, I -- I -- you know, I 14 don't just say give me the money and we'll get it, you 15 know. 16 Q. Right. Okay. So it's just a quick estimate and 17 then -- 18 A. Yeah. From them, yes. 19 Q. And -- and -- and it upsets you when you make -- 20 when -- when that estimate's put out there and then -- 21 A. It doesn't upset me. It just kinda makes me 22 wonder. It's like why did you even put it in if 23 you're not going to get it, you know. 24 Q. Right. 25 A. It's like why did I go through the time of ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 237 1 contacting them and them not get it, but, you know, it 2 is what it is. 3 Q. And -- and could it be that maybe sometimes 4 people redo the request to make it a little bit 5 narrower? 6 A. Sometimes they do. I've had that happen 7 often. 8 Q. Okay. Okay. And going to this request here, 9 this is a request regarding underground electric; right? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. Okay. Is -- is -- isn't that a matter of public 12 concern? 13 A. Oh, yeah. 14 Q. Is -- has there not recently been a budget 15 increase because of that? 16 A. Um-hmm. 17 Q. Okay. When you mentioned Longport and the State 18 Attorney, what does that have to do with this case? 19 MR. SWEETAPPLE: Object to the form. 20 THE WITNESS: I didn't say anything about 21 the State Attorney. I just said I remember 22 seeing that this had been done in Longport and I 23 knew that the clerk there had health problems. 24 That's all I said. I didn't say anything about 25 the State Attorney. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 M 9 10 11 12 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 238 BY MR. O'BOYLE: Q. Okay. So -- so you spoke to Monica? A. No, I didn't speak to anybody. Q. Oh. A. In the article it said that. Q. Oh, okay. A. I didn't talk to anybody. I don't know anybody in Longport. Q. Okay. A. I have no clue where it even is except in New Jersey. Q. Fair enough. Fair enough. So you said before that Mr. O'Hare spent his holidays concocting requests to Jones Foster. How do you know that? A. Just from what they tell me. Q. Who's they? A. The attorneys had told me that they had gotten receipts -- or requests. Q. Okay. So -- okay. That's -- and this is an attorney that's involved in litigation as an advocate? They have a partic -- they're not neutral? A. Who's not neutral? Q. The attorney that you spoke to. A. Yeah, it was referred to me by a couple of the -- the attorneys there had told me that they had f) ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 239 received requests. Q. Okay. So, and let me -- let me back up. The public records log, you -- you had said before that part of it was your idea, but part of it was -- A. Not the log. The log wasn't my idea. That was done before I was even involved. Q. Oh, okay. A. It was the putting them on-line. Q. Okay. So tho -- so tho -- that was part of the ideas of -- of attorneys created for -- A. I asked them if it was legal to do that. Q. Oh, okay. A. We discussed it amongst staff, at least me and Rita, and I had asked if that was legal. Q. Right. So you also mentioned the people coming and saying they're disgusted. What's going on with the O's? A. Um-hmm. Q. What -- can you tell me more about -- this is the first I've ever heard of that. A. People, you know, they say they're just upset. You know, they'll come in and do whatever City (sic) business they've got to do and they'll come in and talk to us and, you know, they'll say how's it going with the O's and it's going. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 240 Q. So -- so -- so -- so what -- what is -- well, let me ask who says this? A. Residents. Town residents. Q. Would you be able to identify any of them? A. No. No, I can't remember right offhand. I mean I can say there have been, but to remember who right offhand I don't. Q. Okay. So -- so you couldn't identify them? A. No, I don't remember them. Q. Okay. And -- but -- but you do remember specific words? A. No, I don't remember. Let me just -- as a gist of words, they ask what's the situation? How are things going? If anything new arose. You know, they're always asking -- they're like I can't believe that stuff, you know, what they're doing and, you know, they just express whatever they want to express and I just -- Q. Okay. A. -- zip it. Q. So what -- what has the Town done to be -- to be proactive about this frustration that you -- you keep talking about the inundation frustration and I just want to know what steps were proactive were taken? A. We're trying to get as much on-line as C - )ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) „ , EsquireSolutions.com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 241 1 possible is the only thing I can think of. Trying to 2 make things available, you know. Basically it's just 3 me and the other girl doing it, so I mean Rebecca 4 helps with the accounts payable, so she does that 5 portion, but all the other records we're trying to get 6 on as fast as we can, you know. 7 Q. Okay. 8 A. Just trying to make things so people don't 9 have to go through and do records requests. They can 10 find that stuff all on-line -- 11 Q. Okay. 12 A. -- is what we're trying to do. 13 Q. So has anybody ever said that -- anybody 14 referred to in three -- affirmative defense three from 15 Exhibit 3, the list that we've been constantly talking 16 about, -- 17 A. Yes. 18 Q. -- that -- that -- that they should be punished 19 or prevented from making records requests? 20 A. Nobody said that to me, not that I'm aware 21 1 of. 22 Q. Okay. 23 A. Not punished or prevented, no. People have 24 said that they can't believe that they're doing that 25 to us. I've heard that, but I don't think I've ever ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (33 76) Esquire Solutions. com 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 Em 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Kim 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 242 heard anybody say they should be punished or prevented from doing that because I -- I think -- I think for the most part people believe that, you know, the records requests are perfectly fine. I -- I just think that the inundation and -- and the lawsuits are what people are upset about. Q. Right. A. I don't think that anybody's upset about records requests because they do them, too. You know, everybody does records requests. I have no problem with the records requests. I just think that more people are just upset because of inundation that the Town has gotten and the lawsuits. I think that's what most people are -- but that's -- that's my -- Q. Right, right. A. -- opinion, you know. I -- I can't speak for everybody else. Q. Sure, sure. And I -- I just want to clear one thing up. Have we ever spoken before? A. Um-hmm. Q. Okay. My apologies. A. I was like I can't believe you didn't remember me. I said I talked to him. I showed you how to find the -- the code on your phone. When we first got it put on the website, Rita was trying to ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) 1 <. EsquireSolutions.com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 243 figure out how to get it on CD and I'm like, no, no, no. We got it on-line and you had your phone there and I was showing you how to get to it. Q. I am thoroughly embarrassed. I apologize. A. That's okay. MR. SWEETAPPLE: Normally you get to my age and you get like that. BY MR. O'BOYLE: Q. Right. Now, you don't have to tell me where, but are you -- are you -- are you moving out of state anytime soon? A. No, I'm not. Q. Okay. And -- okay. And you had said that Brannon & Gillespie, do -- do they charge -- or let me -- I don't want to put words in your mouth. They have had prior records requests? A. I believe so because I think in one of the emails that we got the quote from, it said to use the previous request I have -- or previous quote for the -- use the same quote that I used for the previous request, so I'm assuming -- and I -- we'd have to look back and see which one it was for, but I assume that there was another one that we had used it on. Q. Okay. And -- okay. So is that -- is that what they normally -- is that what Brannon & Gillespie ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 M 5 6 7 G7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 244 normally -- do you know -- I'm sorry. A. I don't. Q. Let me back up. Do you know what they -- what they charge the Town? A. I -- I would have to look. I don't know. Q. Is -- is 195 the maximum? A. I don't know. Q. Okay. A. I don't know. I would have to look at the bills that they send us. I'd need to look because I really don't know. I don't do accounts payable anymore, so I don't -- I can't think of what I pay them. What they charge us. I don't know if -- and I haven't had to do requests where I've had to ask them for a current rate, so I don't know if that's changed. I -- I don't know. Q. Okay. And you might know. You might not know. I suspect that you do, but Danny Brannon, he's the highest paid employee? A. I don't know how many employees there are, to tell you the truth. I assume he's one of the highest being that his name is in the firm's name, I'm assuming, but I -- I could not tell you that for a fact. Q. Okay. Now, when you -- when you expressed r ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 245 1 frustration before, let me ask was this an instance of 2 frustration -- were you frustrated when Mr. O'Hare 3 helped removed all the Social Security numbers of the 4 police off -- force? 5 A. No. I was grateful for that. 6 Q. Okay. Was that abusive? 7 A. No. 8 Q. Okay. 9 A. I was frustrated at myself for letting it 10 slip. 11 Q. Right. 12 A. But, no, I was very grateful. 13 Q. Okay. And lastly, you mentioned some -- some 14 form of harassment. What -- what -- what happened 15 you -- when you talked with Mr. Sweetapple about Mr. -- 16 Mr. Martin O'Boyle? 17 A. I was just referring to the fact that he 18 would come in there and put his arm around us and the 19 kiss and -- and all that and it just made us feel 20 uncomfortable. 21 Q. Okay. 22 A. So just very professional (sic), but that's 23 why we said something, you know. Well, we had been 24 it had been mentioned and then we had been asked to 25 write something on it. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 246 1 Q. Okay. You -- you'd been asked to? 2 A. Yes. 3 Q. Who asked you to? 4 A. Mr. Thrasher. 5 Q. Okay. 6 A. He just asked us to put it down in writing. 7 I said -- 8 Q. Okay. 9 A. -- fine. 10 Q. All right. Well, when is -- when is your last 11 day? 12 A. Don't know yet. 13 Q. Okay. 14 A. I'm still waiting for an official offer, but 15 I have told -- 16 1 THE REPORTER: Official what? 17 1 BY MR. O'BOYLE: 18 Q. Yeah. Sorry. 19 A. I'm sorry. An official offer from a couple 20 of places that I've applied to. 21 Q. Okay. All right. Well, thank you very much and 22 good luck with that. 23 A. Thank you. 24 MR. SWEETAPPLE: Thank you. She'll read 25 and, if you don't mind, you're going to safeguard ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 it 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 247 the video and I would like a copy; all right? MR. O'BOYLE: Okay. And read meaning do the errata sheet and -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: Yeah, she'll read and -- right. MR. O'BOYLE: Okay. THE WITNESS: What does that mean? MR. SWEETAPPLE: That means -- that means that you have an opportunity to read your testimony to make sure -- THE WITNESS: Oh, okay. MR. SWEETAPPLE: -- it's correct. There's no -- THE WITNESS: Okay. MR. O'BOYLE: And I apologize. You were speaking a little bit low. THE WITNESS: I'm so sorry. I just -- MR. SWEETAPPLE: She might not have gotten everything perfectly. THE REPORTER: Did you need this transcribed? MR. O'BOYLE: I think so, yeah. THE REPORTER: You think so or you need it transcribed? MR. SWEETAPPLE: I'll take a copy. ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 248 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM CERTIFICATE OF OATH THE STATE OF FLORIDA COUNTY OF PALM BEACH May 18, 2016 249 I, the undersigned authority, certify that KELLY AVERY personally appeared before me and was duly sworn on Wednesday, May 18, 2016. Dated this 6th day of June 2016. MARY M. YARNS, Shorthand Reporter Notary Public - State of Florida My Commission No: FF 970208 My Commission Expires April 23, 2020 Job #374075 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 250 1 C E R T I F I C A T E 2 THE STATE OF FLORIDA 3 1 COUNTY OF PALM BEACH 4 5 I, MARY M. KARNS, Shorthand Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at Large, do hereby 6 certify that I was authorized to and did report said deposition in stenotype; and that the foregoing pages are 7 a true and correct transcription of my shorthand notes of said deposition. 8 I further certify that said deposition was taken 9 at the time and place hereinabove set forth and that the taking of said deposition was commenced and completed as 10 hereinabove set out. 11 I further certify that I am not an attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor am I a relative or 12 employee of any attorney or counsel of party connected with the action, nor am I financially interested in the action. 13 The foregoing certification of this transcript 14 does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means unless under the direct control and/or direction of the 15 certifying reporter. 16 Dated this 6th day of June 2016. 17 �,� ` ` l � � �J� J�1► A �a► 1� is MARY M. KARNS, Shorthand Reporter 19 Notary Public - State of Florida My Commission No: FF 970208 20 My Commission Expires April 23, 2020 21 1 Job #374075 22 23 24 25 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (33 76) Esquire Solutions. com I 2 3 4 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM DEPOSITION ERRATA SHEET May 18, 2016 251 ASSIGNMENT NO: 374075 CITIZENS AWARENESS FOUNDATION, INC., vs. THE TOWN OF GULF STREAM; BRANNON & GILLESPIE, LLC I declare under penalty of perjury that I have read the entire transcription of my deposition taken in the above -captioned matter or the same has been read to me, and the same is true and accurate, save and except for changes and/or corrections, if any, as indicated by me on the DEPOSITION ERRATA SHEET hereof, with the understanding that I offer these changes as if still under oath. Signed on the day of KELLY AVERY ESQUIRE 2016. 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 7 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 252 r� ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com DEPOSITION ERRATA SHEET Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: SIGNATURE: DATE: KELLY AVERY r� ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 253 OESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com DEPOSITION ERRATA SHEET Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: Page No. Line No. Change to: Reason for change: SIGNATURE: DATE: KELLY AVERY OESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II 221:17 May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM Index: 100..assuming 234:2 access age applied 1 248:5 205:2 243:6 246:20 320 235:11 aggravating appointment 100 199:14 account 222:4 232:10 215:15 221:17 ahead approval 13 4 accounting 219:8 198:15, 209:24 197:16 alter 17,20 195 40 -some -odd accounts 211:2 architectur 218:13 213:15 241:4 al amend 244:6 244:11 198:15 228.9 5 Acquisition area amount 2 s 214:12 225:12 500 203:2 220:11 arm 2 199:24 action 235:20,22 206:13 218:20 208:1 236:1 245:18 2,200 6 activities answering arose 209:24 209:5 230:5 240:14 226:4 60 activity 231:12 article 20 202:14 221:16 answers 212:9,15 226:3,5 addition 227:2 226:21,22 20 7 214:20 228:10 227:7,25 229:14,16 238:5 20 203:14 additional 230:9 articles 2011 700 -soma- 200:14 231:21 197:7 odd 232:5 210:22 address 211:6 198:2 221:2 206:21 anybody's 227:12, 2013 advantages 242:8 14,17,18, 198:13 9 225:14 anymore 20 202:7,11 228:14, 203:15,16 advice 244:12 20,22 212:14 97 232:8,9, anytime 214:5 210:3 15 243:11 aspects 214:13 27th advise apologies 202:7 A 222:15 242:21 assisted 197:23 advocate apologize 3 abuse 238:20 229:1 assume 207:2,5, 243:22 7,10 affidavit 232:14 244:21 g 210:21 234:21 abuses 243:4 assuming 241:15 222:13 affirmative 247:15 233:7 30 241:14 243:21 221:12,15 abusive 248:1 application 244:23 245:6 201:14 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) S 0 L U. 1 0 N, EsquireSolutions.com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM attack bit 211:13, B 235:25 15,16,17 237:4 213.3 247.16 C May 18, 2016 Index: attack -close - changed 234:23 - 244:15 charge 243:14 244:4,13 charged 218:13 charitable 211:3 checks 218:10 Chris 230:20 Christmas 215:8 Citizens 210:25 227:4,6 228:17,24 city 225:4,5, 25 239:22 class 223:1 clear 226:9 230:14 242:18 clerk 201:23 212:17 215:3 231:6 237:23 clerk's 197:10 close 199:24 202:16 221:16,17 ESQUIRE EsquireSolut PO (3376) back 223:11 CAFI attacked 202:25 blueprints 210:15 230:11, 203:11 224:23 CG 199:25 199:20 218:12 CAFI'S 12,15 218:14 board 217:14 attacking 221:10 227:20 230:19 223:12 224:20,24 198:17 call 211:18 Chandler 228:9 Boca 216:20,21 213:1,3 208:16 239:2 222:11 248:3 attorney 243:22 bodyguards cameras 200:4 244:3 232:17,21 204:8 237:18, 248:2 21,25 billing bona capably 238:20,23 based 210:15 200:9 214:4,9 222:18 attorney's 226:2 Brannon care 211:4 235:18 218:5 198:6 219:11 attorneys basically 243:14,25 case 238:17,25 222:25 244:18 199:16 239:10 241:2 201:2 break 228:1,4, August Beach 224:2,6 8,14 201:10 200:4 229:17 202:6,7, bring 11 203:22 beginning 228:3 237:18 202`4 caught Avery 220:8 brought 209:8 197:1,5 212:9 224:7 behalf 222:18 CD May 18, 2016 Index: attack -close - changed 234:23 - 244:15 charge 243:14 244:4,13 charged 218:13 charitable 211:3 checks 218:10 Chris 230:20 Christmas 215:8 Citizens 210:25 227:4,6 228:17,24 city 225:4,5, 25 239:22 class 223:1 clear 226:9 230:14 242:18 clerk 201:23 212:17 215:3 231:6 237:23 clerk's 197:10 close 199:24 202:16 221:16,17 ESQUIRE EsquireSolut PO (3376) 208:1 223:11 243:1 aware 198:9,11 belive budget CG 199:25 199:20 218:12 203:2 200:3 big 237:14 chance 210:4 224:20,22 building 230:19 223:12 225:4 198:17 232:19,22 Chandler bill 224:25 241:20 208:16 200:20 buildings 223:11, Awareness 220:6 224:23 19,21 210:25 232:11 225:7 228:21 227:4,6,7 228:17,24 billing business Chandler's 222:5 239:23 210:21 bills 222:18 244:10 223:6 May 18, 2016 Index: attack -close - changed 234:23 - 244:15 charge 243:14 244:4,13 charged 218:13 charitable 211:3 checks 218:10 Chris 230:20 Christmas 215:8 Citizens 210:25 227:4,6 228:17,24 city 225:4,5, 25 239:22 class 223:1 clear 226:9 230:14 242:18 clerk 201:23 212:17 215:3 231:6 237:23 clerk's 197:10 close 199:24 202:16 221:16,17 ESQUIRE EsquireSolut PO (3376) KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 Index: clue -dollars 234:2 conduct 215:14 214:5 deposition clue 200:1,3 219:7 day 210:21 206:16,19 223:7 211:9 238:10 199:4,13, 207:19 247:12 248:9 code 210:8 14 202:14 correctly 209:13 deposits 204:24 211:25 205:2 216:2,13 219:10 215:21 234:24 242:24 counted 229:10 dictated constantly 246:11 209:16 205:5 comment 241:15 days 231:9,17, County dictates constructio 202:16 24 232:23 200.4 206:2 n 215:21 common 199:18 couple 221:12,15 dictation 231:23 204:22 234:2 205:6 contacting companies 237:1 238:24 deal difficult 215:20 246:19 214:10 214:1,6,8 continue compared cos P 199:15 court dealing directs 226:5 217:11 209:1 205:19 contractor complain P 217:22,23 create dealt discuss 206:16 220'2 218:5 208:16 207:18 copies created 216:5,7 220'6 decided 216:1 210:17 221:23 complete copy 239:10 213:18 222:16 199:4,8 defense 198:23 crew discussed 204:23 241:14 complex 217:3 223:19,20 227:5 delivered 239:13 213:24 220:20 cross complied 247:1,25 197:1,3 209'9 discussion 217:18 248:7 229:24 demands 222:1 210:18 223:8 comply corporation current 210:16 244:15 denied discussions 214:2 211:1 custom 198:14,19 222:12 concern corporation 231:17 201:14 disgusted 237:12 s department 216:9,10, conclude 217:19 224:16 13 239:16 221:22 D correct departments documents concluded 199:7,9, daily 225:7 220:1,12, 213:25 11,17 207:13 depending 19 224:16 248:9 203:13 227:10 225:24 conclusion 205:17, Danny 228:19 229:19 18,20 244:18 deposit 233:3 207:11,17 date 221:21 dollars concocting 208:9,11 197:6 234:19 238:13 210:9202:3 235:20 221:2 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) Esquire Solutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM May 18, 2016 Index: drive -firm's drive employees excess 245:17 figure 230:17 215:20 225:22 Fair 234:14 234:20 217:5 243:1 excessive 238:12 due 244:20 226:4 figured fall 207:2,4 emulate 234:22 excited 203:14 201:18 215:22 file fashion E end 199:21 excused 212:21 218:8 208:17 248:8 232:6,13, fast 213:13 earlier 14 exempt 241:6 226:25 filed 207:2 ended EAU 204:12 earliest 219:12 exempted 222:8,9, 209:16,19 197:6 207:3,9 10 212:21 early ensure 232:5 Exhibit fax filing 198:13 218:20 199:10 201:3 202:6,22 enterprise 211:3 241:15 faxed 207:23 earshot expense 202:22 210:24 225:8 entities 211:11 217:5 221.24 fearful easily fill expenses 213:6 235:11 equipped 233:20 218:9,11 200:12 feel effect explained 211:16,22 financial 221:15 errata 197:24 217:25 213:1 efficient 247:3 214:12 218:8 express 233:5 estimate 222:2 find 240:17 217:22 230:15,16 205:22 effort 218:1,6 expressed 233:15,17 214:1 234:5 235:5,8, 244:25 245:19 241:10 ego 18 236:3, extensive feeling 242:24 211:2 16 215:16 211:18 Finding electric estimate's extra 230:10 225:7 237:9 236:20 234:3 feels fine emails estimates 212:25 224:4 243:18 220:5 F fees 242:4 embarrassed evidence 211:4 246:9 243:4 203:23 facilitate felt finished employed exact 211:3 212;24 206:6 197:6 223:18 fact 230:17 firm employee examination 204:17 fiddle 210:23 218:3 197:3 210:17, 233:12 214:22 226:8 18,19 223:10 244:19 examine 211:1 fide firm's 229:25 210:15 244:24 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) 1 1i EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 244:22 245:2,9 219:12 handful firms frustrating glanced 216:14 215:11 205:23,24 229:9 handling Five-minute 207:20 good 197:18 224:2 frustration 214:19 207:15 fix 231:15 216:14 happen 197:18 240:22,23 234:17 234:10 229:3,4,6 give 202:1 245:1,2 246:22 237:6 flash 218:1 208:20 fulfill government happened 234:20 231:12 220:8,9, 235:4 204:13 202:24 Florida 235:11, 213:14, 245:14 217:3 fully frustrated 14 248:3 210:5 giving 19'23 207:9 216:6 happening 222:14 grabbed 210:4 force 206:11 G harassment 245:4 229:18 gave 230:23 220:5 237:19 229:14 245:14 generally Foster 229:7 214:22 get all 238:14 227:21 Foundation 233:20 210:25 Gillespie Four -people 243:14,25 224:12 girl Freida 241:3 197:18 gist 198:5 240:13 200:20 give 202:1 198:1 207:12 218:1 208:20 228:7 212:23 231:12 220:8,9, 233:21 16 235:11, front 13,15,16, 217:3 21 236:2, frustrated 14 248:3 230:10, giving 18,21 207:9 ESQUIRE granted 199:22 grateful 245:5,12 great 233:2 group 207:23 guess 201:16 224:15 225:2 229:6 Gulf 197:7 212:22 214:20 223:15 224:9 225:4 H Hall 231:1 232:18 245:14 harder 214:17 he'll 205:14 head 206:14 health 237:23 hear 2 08: 13 224:21 232:13 heard 201:17 208:16,19 210:6 239:20 241:25 242:1 hearing 215:14 helped 245:3 helps 241:4 May 18, 2016 Index: firms -identify hide 210:17 highest 244:19,21 hold 236:7 holding 234:20 holidays 215:7,10 238:13 home 206:21 honestly 212:8 230:5 hope 211:20 hospital 212:17 hourly 235:18 house 201:14 how'd 222:2 how's 239:24 hundreds 215:6 I idea 239:4,5 ideas 239:10 identify 217:4 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM Index: immediately -log 240:4,8 inundation 17,20 knowledgeab 211:24 immediately 240:23 Jones le 212:2,7 201:13 242:5,12 214:22 216:6 learned 235:12 involved 238:14 212:6 impression 197:6 July L leaving 200:15,19 219:25 201:9 208:20, 214:25 228.7 202:5 Lake 22,24 218:20 226:1 229:1 inappropria 219:1 June tely 238:20 218:25 language left 206:12 239:6 233:12 209:23 221:24 increase involvement K large 237:15 200:6 198:3 legal information issue keeping larger 216:6 229:18239:11,14 207:2 207:5,7, 203:20 226:1 232:20,25 10,21 KELLY lastly245:13 233:3,8 210:10 legislature 197:1 insinuation 211:5 224:7 210:10 late 225:17 issued kill 201:9 letter instance 221:5 208:13, 203:14 206:18 221:3 220:4 issues 14,17 laughed 245:1 213:14 222:20 letting 223:23 instructor 223:17 kinds 245:9 law 223:14 items 200:21 limited 210:23 intake 219:13 205:15 214.22 214:16 205:17 _ 216:17 215:11 list 223:23 217:18 218:11 intensive J 234:3,4 223:10 227:18 2 36:11 236:21 230:20 interim Jersey kinds laws 241:15 199:22 200:1 227.21 222:13 211:25 lawsuit litigation internet 226:18,19 kiss 238:20 208:18 212:11,15 234:21 245:19 212:3 located intimidatin 238:11 kissed 219:6 197:13 g job 206:13 220:2 locations 205:22, 208:21,25 knew lawsuits 224:14 24,25 209:3 208:7 210:7,24 to log 214:19 237:23 242:5,13 02:7,8 199:5 joint knowledge lawyer 203:20,23 207:24 204:13 204:12 208:8 207:16 inundating Jonathan 213:13 209:14, learn 213:5 204:16, 217:13,17 21,22 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEP0 (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM Index: long -nuts 217:3 239:3,5 long 198:22 206:8,9 235:17,19 236:3 longest 215:18 Longport 200:1 211:25 212:17 226:18 227:13,25 228:16,22 237:17,22 238:8 looked 209:21 211:4 lot 215:2,4 216:3 222:24 231:4 love 209:3 low 247:16 lowest 218:1,3 luck 246:22 lump 216:17,19 M machine 199:4.8 made 204:8 215:6,15, 17 220:7 221:15 223:4 225:16 233:16 234:5,24 245:19 maintenance 224:25 make 202:18 204:4,6, 21 214:1, 16 220:6, 19 221:23 222:2 230:14 232:10 233:9,19 235:7 236:19 237:4 241:2,8 247:10 makes 236:21 making 202:13 203:6 210:18 212:1 214:21 215:10, 13,20 221:23 241:19 manner 207:25 March 2 19: 5 Martin 198:11 205:4 206:10,18 211:24 216:13 245:16 matter 237:11 matters 204:14 216:6 maximum 244:6 Mayor 231:11 meaning 247:2 means 229:6 247:8 meet 200:10, 12,15 205:1 meetings 216:1 231:1 mention 212:18 mentioned 226:17,22 237:17 239:15 245:13,24 met 200:9 204:17 mind 207:25 213:25 246:25 minutes 248:5 mistakes 223:4 money 235:22 236:10,14 Monica 238:2 monopolizin g 200:24 month 198:23 233:23 months 201:9 Morgan 231:11 morning 209:10, 11,14 mouth 243:15 moved 229:9 moving 243:10 multiple 214:21 225:5,7 multiply 235:19 N named 203:1 names 202:21 203:1 narrower 237:5 necessarily 209:11 211:14,17 negotiate 217:22 neutral 238:21,22 newspapers 211:7 227:21 normal 200:17 225:18,21 226:4 not-for- profit 210:16 211:1 217:19 noted 201:6 notes 205:12 nothing's 235:1 now's 229:3 numbers 198:3 245:3 numerous 215:13 nuts 230:17 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) Esquire Solutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM Index: O'boyle..personnel S O'boyle 198:8,12 199:13 200:23 201:3,19 202:17 203:3,5, 6,11 204:1,16, 18,20 2 05: 4 206:11,18 2 07: 16 2 08: 1 209:17 210:17 211:2,10 212:21 213:12 215:19 216:13 217:5 223:10,22 224:1,3, 5,8 227:4,8, 25 229:22 230:20,24 231:8 232:4,17 238:1 243:8 245:16 246:17 247:2,6, 15,22 248:2,5 O'boyleIa 202:20 207:18 211:25 216:2,13 222:17 O'boyles 209:2 210:1 222:16 223:8 O'hare 198:8 201:11, 14,17,24 203:7,12 204:1 207:15 208:1,10 209:2,8, 16 210:2 211:10 212:21 213:13 214:21 215:19 216:16 217:9 220:4,5, 19 221:23 230:20 231:8 232:4 238:13 245:2 O'hare Is 202:4 208:7 O's 216:20, 21,23,25 217:1 239:17,25 Object 229:18 237:19 obtaining 211:4 occasions 204:20 2 05: 8 occurred 220:9 October 197:7 offer 246:14,19 offhand 205:9 216:14 218:15 240:5,7 office 197:9,10 199:6 206:15 221:22 offices 197:13 official 246:14, 16,19 on-line 204:25 234:15 239:8 240:25 241:10 243:2 open 204:13 213:14,22 opinion 242:16 opinions 2 10: 20 opportunity 247:9 order 201:18 211:3 orders 248:6 originated 222:20,22 overwhelmin g 202:9 owed 220:24 P paid 219:23 235:1 244:19 Palm 200:4 Park 226:2 part 214:15,18 225:10, 20,21 226:10, 12,15 239:3,4,9 242:3 partic 238:21 pay 220:21 221:5,6 234:18 236:7 244:12 payable 241:4 244:11 paying 234:22 peace 216:8 people 197:11 2 00: 14 215:25 216:3,8, 12,19 221:22 222:13, 23,24,25 223:3,13, 14 230:20 237:4 239:15,21 241:8,23 242:3,6, 12,14 percent 210:3 percentage 209:25 perfect 208:17 214:14,18 perfectly 242:4 247:19 period 215:18 permit 199:18 permits 224:22 personal 217:13 personally 205:5 211:19,20 personnel 221:13,14 ESQUIRE Esqu �eSolutions.com) KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM Index: phone -records phone previous 221:14 223:25 reason 242:24 218:18 222:2,13 228:6,12 219:11 243:2 243:19,20 225:17, 229:12, 226:24 248:3 20,23,24 16,21,23 227:9 prior pick 200:1,3 226:10 230:1,2,6 reasonable 220:13,20 243:16 231:9 231:12, 214:12 234:11,14 232:24 19,21 proactive 233:2,10 Rebecca picked 240:22,24 237:11 quick 241:3 220:13 problem 239:3 235:15 236:16 rebuilt place 213:21 pulled 224:24 quickly 227:22 231:5,22 212:11,15229:9 recall P laces 242:10 punished 199:1 246:20 problems 241:18,23 quote 202:13 206:10 242 � 1 219:12, 212:8,16 plans P 18,23 224:20,22 237:23 purporting 233:21 receipts pockets produce 210:24 234:5 238:18 222:13 220:11 purpose 235:16 received point Produced 211:2 243:18, 203:24 221:20 19,20 239:1 197:16,21 push 220:25 pro£essiona 200:21 recently 232:17 1 R 214:21 234:17 245:22 put 237:14 206:13 police project 209:4 rate record 224:16 218:9 221:20 218:17 204:16 245:4 properly 232:3 235:20 225:8,9 policy 213:10 235:2 244:15 records 221:14 236:20,22 reacted 197:18, 234:24 provided P 242:25 223:3 22,24 206:24 243:15 P onion read 198:11,20 public 245:18 205:14 199:12 241:5 197:16,22 246:6 210:20,22 200:24 preparing 198:11,20 putting 211:6 201:7,23 209:9 199:12 239:8 219:10 205:6 presuming 200:24 226:20 206:2,22 224:1 201:7,23 229:9 208:17 205:6 4 246:24 210:18 pretty 206:2,22 247:2,4,9 211:22 222:18 208:17 question 212:1,20 226:21 210:18 231:8,18readin g 213:3,5, prevented 212:1,20 232:3 212:16 14,20,22 241:19,23 213:14 233:5,9 real 214:1,13 242:1 215:10, questions 235:15 215:14,20 13,20 217:4 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. corn KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM Index: redirect -she'll 218:6 204:7 requestor require 221:8,14, 212:12,14 220:1 205:11 S 16,21 221:1 234:11 required 222:13 223:18,20 requests 205:5 safeguard 223:4 227:7,8, 197:19,22 246:25 224:14 24 reroof 198:3,11, 225:17, 228:16,23 201:14 sake 20 199:2, 20,23,24 229:5,8 12,15,21 residents 233:16 226:10 235:9 200:7,9, 240:3 sat 230:12 237:21 15,25 230:25 232:24 240:5,6, respond 233:2,10, 9,10,12 201:4,8, 213:8 scanner 15 235:12 242:23 21 214:6,9, 199:6 239:3 202:14,18 11 234:10 remind 203:6,11, Security 241:5,9, 221:4 24 204:5, responded 245:3 19 242:4, 6'8'21 233:21 9,10,11 removed 234:1 seminar 243:16 245:3 205:6 222:16 206:2 response redirect repeat 207:16send 235:12 224:1,7 207:6 208:18 220:10 209:9,15, responses 235:21 redo report 214:13 244:10 237:4 198:1 16,19,25 211:11,22 responsive sending refer REPORTER 212:1,20 235:12 221:3 211:10 207:4,6 213:3,5, 216:22 21 22 24 Rita separate referred 219:15, 198:6 204:8 238:24 214:4,9, 200:20 241:14 19,21 20,21 servant 246:16232:11 215:6,11, 222:3 referring 247:20,23 14,16 239:14 225:22 248:1,4 217:4 242:25 serve 227:5 request 218:13,16 Roeder 200:7 228:18, 197:24 220:6 208:7 served 21,22,24 198:25 221:23 roof 210:1 245:17 199:22 230:12 215:14 219:6 regard 204:9 232:24 settled 211:25 206:22 233:2,10, rough 199:16 217:18 215:21 15,20 214:12 201:2 220:19 238:13,18 roughly regular 239:1 settlement 226:6 221:4,16, 235:7 17 234:9 241:9,19 212:5 rehearse 235:4 242:4,9, run she'd 229:23 237:4,8,9 10,11 217:14 220:22 243:19,21 243:16 248:2 remember she'll 199:2,3 requested 244:14 running 246:24 203:19 221;9 217:14 247:4 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) , EsquireSolutions.com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II May 18, 2016 CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM Index: sheet -temporary sheet situation sponsored 209:1 suspect 247:3 220:23 222:10 212:17 244:18 shortly 240:13 staff stressful suspected 201:16 size 214:16 212:20 234:10 203:8 225:25 224:12 213:16 24 222:14 sued 247:16 Sweetapple shot slip 239:13 strictly 197:2 208:14 245:10 stand 226:8 207:8 222.21 small 206:5 strike 216:24 shots 197:9 start 201:22 219:17,22 208:17 224:9 198:20 apecificall 224:4 204:13 229:24 231:20 stuff 229:11,18 show 225:13 203:6 221:19 230:23 205:1 Social started 222:5 237:19 222:25 245:3 197:5 224:23 243:6 showed son's 201:24 231:4 245:15 212:10 210:23 202:7,8, 240:16 246:24 222:23 234:19 25 203:6, 241:10 247:4,8, 223:2,6 space 213:18 submit 12,18,25 242.23 197:13 215013 202.21 248:6 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com showing speak state 235:5,11 238:3 200:4 T 243:3 succeed 242:16 201:18 shown speakingtalk 210:5,13,200:23 207:16 24 222:14 sued 247:16 237:17, 213:7 222:24 sic specific 21,25 232:9,10 227:2 204:7suit 238:7 239:23 228:13,15 243:10 213:13 239:24 245:22 240:11 steer suite talked aide apecificall 215:2 204:13 229:24 231:20 y steps summer 242:23 sides 230:1,3 240:24 203:14 245:15 231:20 spend stored supplement talking 232:1 209:8 224:24 218:22 203:3 signed 236:10 Stream 219:3 232:25 209:6 197:7 234:19 spent supplements 213:18 212:22 240:23 215:10 1 241:15 similar 238:13 214: 20 219:8 230:6,9 223:15 technical spoke 224:9 support 225:2 sit 230:10 227:11 205:12,13 238:2,23 Stream's tells 206:5 225:4 supposed 205:16,19 spoken 215:3 233:22 242:19 stress 232:20 temporary 208:21,25 197:12 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM ten 206:9 204:13,24 — 226:2,5 212:5 208:22 term 213:10 210:1,5 — 214.8 12 213:13 0 208:19 ' ' Um-hmm time 16 215:23 214:4 understandi 197:23touched 206:16 202:2 terms 221:3,13, 215:3,19, 214:23 201:7 18 224:1 25 216:19 206:7 200:21,24 town 202:18 208:2 testify 226:3 219:13, - 210:14 201:17 229:3 15,16 215:12 204:7,10 231:16, 224:10 218:11 testimony 17,18,23, 226:1,8, 216:3,11 197:5 24 235:18 12 230:25 217:6,12 217:21 236:2,25 231:24 218:4 247:10 232:4, 18 222.9 timeline 224:11,13 Thanksgivin 198:23 240:3,21 225:19 g 242:13 215:7 timely 244:4 229:13,15 214:6 thing town's 237:16 216:17 times 200:24 239:18 241:1 204:22 213:7 242:20 242:19 207:21 225:23 unanswered 213:12,15 things 214:3,7 towns 234:6 216:5 220:3,22 231:18 uncomfortab 223:5 234:25 track le 232:12 202:10 245:20 240:14 told 218:8,12 241:2,8 199:24 underground 220:16 training 237:9 thinking 228:5 222:7,12 209:7understand 232:16 219:9 transcribed 199:23 238:17,25 228:19,20246 :15 247:21,24 201:2 truth 214:10 tho top 217:21 239:9 206:14 244:21 220:15 Thrashertwo-and-a- total 231:16, 232:16 209:15, half 18,20,21, 246:4 16 19 215:23 22 233:4 May 18, 2016 Index: ten -wanted upset 216:4 236:21 239:22 242:6,8, 12 upsets 234:3,4 236:19 utility 218:9 V verbally 2 05: 16 viable 232:24 viciously 213:4 video 247:1 videos 222:23,24 223:2 voice 216:3 volume 201:7 214:4,9 voluminous 203:11 209:9 W waiting 246:14 wanted 199:19 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com time 220:24 type understandi 197:23touched 206:16 ng 198:10206:11 210:8 214:23 199:25 types unusual 200:21,24 town 202:18 201:7 201:6,24 197:7 203:7 200:1,10, updated 204:7,10 12 201:8 218:11 May 18, 2016 Index: ten -wanted upset 216:4 236:21 239:22 242:6,8, 12 upsets 234:3,4 236:19 utility 218:9 V verbally 2 05: 16 viable 232:24 viciously 213:4 video 247:1 videos 222:23,24 223:2 voice 216:3 volume 201:7 214:4,9 voluminous 203:11 209:9 W waiting 246:14 wanted 199:19 ESQUIRE 800.211.DEPO (3376) EsquireSolutions. com KELLY AVERY VOLUME II CITIZENS AWARENESS VS. TOWN of GULF STREAM 221:19 205:5,15, 232:3 16 208:16 wanting 245:25 236:9 writing 218:10 waves 246:6 211:11 written website 205:14 223:2,6 206:18 242:25 211:7 weekend 213:25 209:7,8 weeks 215:23 when Ia 198:10 women 2 06: 15 word 2 08: 13 words 240:11,13 243:15 work 197:10,11 200:18,21 213:19 218:3 22 0: 10 221:24 225:18,21 226:7 233:6 234:4,7 236:11 worked 226:1 working 197:15,18 201:23 207:12 write Y y'all 223:15,17 year 215:7 yesterday 209:23 York 225:5 z zip 240:20 ESQUIRE May 18, 2016 Index: wanting..zip 800.211.DEPO (33 76) EsquireSolutions. com