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HomeMy Public PortalAbout160_050_20130108PARKINGCOMMITTEEMINUTES CITY OF TYBEE ISLAND PARKING COMMITTEE MINUTES January 8, 2013 ATTENDEES Council Committee representatives: Bill Garbett, Paul Wolff, Tom Groover Staff Committee representatives: Diane Schleicher, Joe Wilson, Denise Dubuque, Pete Ryerson, Chantel Morton and Chief Robert Bryson CALL TO ORDER Mr. Bill Garbett called the meeting to order. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Mr. Wolff made a motion to approve the minutes of the last meeting. Mr. Groover seconded the motion. The minutes from the December 11, 2012 meeting were approved. New Business: Old Business: I. Continued Discussion of Legal City ROW Parking Options on Lovell Avenue South of 14th Street to 15th Street. Mr. Garbett stated that part of the issues around Stingray's had resolved. Mr. Wilson advised that the fence is 19' off the road. Pictures were taken. It is mostly scrub brush and small wax myrtles, small oaks and small palms that need to be removed in order to get the 18' parking. Five spaces can be fit in the area. There is 50' from driveway to well site. He said that the well site comes closer to the road. There are only 15'. There is thirty feet from the center line. It is a 60' right of way. Mrs. Jolley's fence line is at 19'. He advised the fence is on the City ROW. Mr. Wilson said that Mr. Reese does not want to move the gates around the pump station as the gate at the back end is where the diesel tanks are filled for the generator for the pump. Mr. Reese does not want access denied there. Mr. Reese does not want the other gate moved. There are only 15 feet; therefore a parking space cannot be put in there. Mr. Wilson explained the parking spaces that were possible as shown in a slide presentation. The committee discussed the possibilities of spaces as shown in the slides. Mr. Groover asked how often the water department filled up their diesel tank. Sharon S Shaver Mr. Wilson said there is no way to know when the tank will be filled and if there is a car parked in front of the gate and there is no access to fuel, there may be a problem. He said that he understands that a space could probably be put in for special events, but access is needed in case of emergency. Mr. Groover said that work was done there recently and the gate was not opened. The work was done with a crane. Mr. Wilson stated that it was not operational so he did not need the diesel fuel. Mr. Wolff asked if the fuel was being pumped through a hose. Mr. Wilson confirmed that a truck was backed up to the gate and pumped through a hose. Mr. Wolff stated all that is needed is a longer hose. Mr. Groover stated that he could pump from the middle of the street if the hose was long enough. Mr. Groover stated that there is a pole leaning at about a 15 degree angle because of all the solar on top of it. He said the fence is almost nonexistent and if Mr. Reese needs access, he can get it at the corner. The discussion continued with ways to give the water department access. Mr. Wilson said that he could get a total of nine spaces, perhaps, but eight for sure, right now. Mr. Wolff asked Mr. Wilson to discuss with Mr. Reese the possibility of getting a longer hose. Mr. Groover asked if there was anything that could be done in front of the pump house. Mr. Wilson said there is not enough space. Mr. Wilson asked the committee if they wanted him to do the improvements. Ms. Schleicher explained that it has to go to council first. Mr. Groover asked what Mrs. Jolley had to say about all of this. Sharon S Shaver Ms. Schleicher said that it has not been sent to Mrs. Jolley yet as it has to go to council before any resources can be spent and as far as policies that were going to be worked on for Lovell. She stated that a recommendation is needed from the committee and asked whether it will be decal parking only. Mr. Wolff said he would move that the area be improved and make as many spaces as possible. Ms. Schleicher asked if it would be decal only. Mr. Wolff said that it would have to be decal only. Mr. Groover asked why. Mr. Wolff then stated that he did not see how it could be decal only. Mr. Groover asked what would be done with Stingray's. A discussion ensued about decals and menus in car windows for Stingray's parking. Mr. Groover said that no trees on Mrs. Jolley's property should be cut. Mr. Wilson said that he is not, as the trees are on city property. He said that if he cuts anything it will be on city property and Mrs. Jolley's fence is on city property. Mr. Groover said so was every other bush and shrub on the island. Mr. Wilson said if he has to improve it so that it is legal for parking he has to prune that area back. Mr. Groover began a discussion of houses on the Thirteenth Street side of Lovell being in the ROW. Mr. Wilson explained that there is an ordinance stating there is not to be any building, planting or erecting in the ROW. Mr. Garbett and Mr. Wolff explained that policy that was put in place for parking. Sharon S Shaver Mr. Groover continued a discussion about use of city ROW. Mr. Garbett explained that there are places all over Tybee with parking policies. The discussion continued. Mr. Wolff restated his motion: To improve that area in the 100' south of Fourteenth adjacent to the pump station to add as many parking spaces as possible. Mr. Garbett seconded the motion. Mr. Wolff and Mr. Garbett voted in favor of the motion. Mr. Groover voted against. Mr. Garbett asked Mr. Wilson to check with Mr. Reese and get a price. The committee discussed payback for that area. Mr. Ryerson asked about meters and decals in the area. Mr. Garbett suggested a decal only sign on Lovell between Fourteenth and Tybrisa. He asked what that would do to Captain's Watch. Ms. Schleicher stated that she believed that it would be a good thing, stating perhaps residents would be more likely to park there during special events. Mr. Groover asked what the motion was that is going to council. Ms. Shaver read the motion. Ms. Schleicher stated that she met with Mr. Patel. She said that after looking at his survey, SAGIS and Mrs. Jolley's property, it is clear that Mr. Patel cannot put straight in parking at all. She said that Mr. Patel was willing to look at the investment to change his parking, but it is not possible as it is all City ROW. She said that some of the things discussed were the possibility of the City selling part of the ROW less the value of the improvements Mr. Patel has done. Mr. Garbett said that he thought this had been run by Mr. Hughes in the past and there may be a problem with it. He said that he thought that may be the best solution and asked Ms. Schleicher to check with Mr. Hughes on it. Sharon S Shaver The committee discussed the possibilities and scenarios of selling a portion of the right of way. Mr. Garbett stated that he wanted Ms. Schleicher to pursue this with Mr. Hughes. Mr. Groover agreed. Mr. Wolff stated that he is completely against it. Mr. Groover and Mr. Wolff continued the discussion. Ms. Schleicher clarified that the committed did want her to pursue this with Mr. Hughes. She was instructed to discuss it with him. II. Parking Update by Parking Staff Mr. Ryerson stated that New Year's Day went very well. There was passive enforcement. He had Holly in fourteen lot and his car parked at the circle, until around 2pm, then started their patrol. People were overall compliant. Mr. Garbett asked about the new machines. Mr. Ryerson said that they were working out well. He said that there is a reception problem Mr. Ryerson discussed the condition of Pay and Display machines. A discussion ensued about single head meters, Pay and Display and change machines. Ms. Schleicher asked when the striping people were coming in. Ms. Dubuque stated that they were waiting until projects in DPW were completed. She said that she has done the PO, it has been approved. Mr. Garbett asked about the BOOT. Mr. Ryerson stated that one person has been booted, others have come in to pay their heavy fines and the BOOT has already paid for itself. Mr. Ryerson gave an in-depth explanation of the meters on the island. Sharon S Shaver Mr. Garbett asked for further business. Mr. Groover asked that north beach parking lot be put under new business. The committee had a brief discussion of improving the old right of way and parking in the north lot. Mr. Garbett asked that it be put on the agenda. Mr. Wolff made a motion to adjourn. Mr. Garbett seconded. The meeting was adjourned Sharon S Shaver