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BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSIO
MINUTES OF
SEPTEMBER 20, 1988
The Planning Commission met in a Regular Planning Commission
Meeting on Tuesday , September 20, 1988, in the City Council
,
Chambers with Acting Chairperson Remy presiding.
Meeting was called to Order at 7:02 P.M.
On Roll Call, the following commissioners were present:
Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries and Acting Chairperson
Remy. Chairperson Burton was excused.
Affidavit of Posting was read.
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed.
1. Minutes for the Regular Plan Commissin meeting the
September 6, 1988, were approved as
following amendments.
Page 5, paragraph 4 to read:'
Attorney Ryskamp noted that the project should be
conditioned so that public improvements for the project be
built either with freeway access or access to 4th Street.
Page 6, paragraph 7 to read:
Commissioner Schuelke commented that the applicant be
directed to consult with an environmtal consultant toiremake
the determination on whether the project
focused EIR or a full EIR.
2. Oral Communication: None.
3 witlicusrthiseevening and wouldsaddresscthetCOissiontlaters
Also on September 12, 1988, the City Council sustained the
Commission's recommendation and denied the appeal of
Broyles' CUP.
CON'T PUBLIC IiEARING:
4. 87- Pp -17, 87 -V-6 and 87- ND -39, a proposed 4 unit apartment
building, located at 738 Chestnut between 7th and 8th
Streets. Applicant, Victor Schiro.
Acting Chairperson Remy opened the public hearing at 7:10
P.M., and continued this matter to October 4, 1988.
5, Applicant requests permission per Section 15.28.090 of
Beaumont Municipal Code, to relocate singlefamily dwelling
unit to site located east side of Michigan
approximately 300 ft. Jsouth of its intersection with First
Street. Applicant,
CDD houles addressed the commission ce of review ethat in move
past the City did not require this been has b been on the books since
on building but the Or
1966; thus, the reason that it is being brought before
Commission for a decision. The Acting Building Inspector
went to the site in Fontana and inspected the building and
the building will again be inspected when it is set in
place to be sure that it meets the building code.
/ Page 2 tructure was
will be imposed as if a new s commission
conditions Mr Koules noted that section of the
Same Also, this
being built. consider revision of
might want to
ordinance.
public hearing at
Chairperson Remy then openeonentsPfrom the audience
Acting asking for proponents /oPP
7:20 P.M.o speak. commission
wishing addressed the be
an, Beaumont, this parcel would
D.J. Ward, 86 at 1, and gutters f development and the
that cur s of wide; 5th
commenting there is 500 ft. 20 feet to
silly because the street is only never had
this lot on to this property; could cause
frontage of
hat he has moved on delay room
building h anything like this before; street
go throug sets back off the
Problems since the the dcarpetcut off from art of the lot;
and rain could destroy driveway that is p
about 200 ft. with a 20'
have separate parcels legally divided .
to speak, Acting Chairperson
There being no one else wishing
at 7:23 P.M-, turning
Remy then closed the public hearing
the matter back to the commission for discussion.
to
Commissioner Fries t ingg unit; seconded the
On motion by single family with
relocate the Bruner. Motion carried unanimously
Commissioner
following roll call vote: Fries and Acting
c Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke,
AYES-
Chairperson Remy*
NOES: None-
ABSTAIN: Chairperson Burton. AB.,ENT: th
Schuelke at Section
Commissioner amended so
Also on motion by al Code be deleted or
15.28.090 of the Municip family
similar requests be handled administratively or in
of single Motion
that to the approval Bruner.
manner similar Commissioner call vote:
seconded by roll
residences; with the following
carried unanimously Schuelke, Fries and Acting
Commissioners Bruner,
AYES: Chairperson Remy.
140ES : None.
ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: Chairperson Burton.
6, 88 -PM -
division of land into two
10 (PM 22949) and 88- ND-13, corner
parcels, located at the nort west SOCiatesf 14th Street an
Beaumont Avenue. Applicant, of
d the
CDD Koules
presented staff report and conditions the
approval recommending approval of this item subject o
conditions of approval. at
Acting Chairperson Remy then opened the public hearing
asking for proponents /opponents from the audience
7:32 P.M•` eak.
wishing to sP ' be abstaining
noted that she would involved in
on and voting
Commissioner Schuelke since she is
from the discuss'
ect.
negotiation of a parcel within the project*
7250 Ma nolia, Riversideof od
Francois C.Elahl,
.CE Associates, is costing a of I.
i a dresse t e commission °Otriedlto work out witthehFederal
money to develop the land; FE which is waters;
Control to lessen the condition on
Agency for Management concerning the United States
will be replacing with more trees.
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There being no one else wishing to speak, Acting Chairperson
Remy then closed the public hearing at 7 :37 P.M., turning
the matter back to the commission for discussion.
On motion by Commissioner
City Council of 88 -PM -10
seconded by Commissioner
following roll call vote:
Burner to recommend approval by
and Negative Declaration 88- ND -13;
Fries. Motion carried with the
AYES: Commissioners Bruner,
Remy.
CIOES : None,
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Schuelke.
ABSTAIN: Chairperson Burton.
Fries and Acting Chairperson
7. 88 -v -3, and 88- ND -12, (88- MPP -10)
260' southtwofn d Fourth Street.
Carriers, Inc.
Transit Truck pproximately
Avenues, approximately
Applicant, Three Coast
CDD Koules presented the staff report for this Variance
commenting that this would also be reviewed under a
Plot Plan with conditions for off-side dinanceVespecifically
will be forthcoming. The zoning
calls out that in no case shall barbed wire be used as part
of the fence. However, several surrounding businesses have 3
strand barbed wire fence on top of their 6' chain
fence. The project will have a 1,200 feet of
yard for not
office lmore
and trucks will be placed in the enclosed y
than 48 hours. Conditions for improvement of Minnesota will
be requested.
Commissioner
coming under
Schuelke expressed concern about this project
a Minor Plot Plan.
Acting Chairperson Remy then opened the public
3:52 P.M., asking for proponents/opponents
wishing to speak.
addressed the
line that runs on
hearing at
the audience
Darle Helmer.s
commission co
Minnesota.
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566 N. RamseynTll
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12573 7th Street, Yuc
mentlnQ: Dura P ast
ipi, addressed the
c cannot be compared to
this project.
Commissioner Schuelke noted that if this particular use is
permitted in that zone and it falls under a Minor Plot Plan
then Dura Plastic or anyone else who has a us does e on
not
unimroed needptov come lbefore nthe zPlanning Commission. use,
There being no one else wishing to speak, Acting Chairperson
Remy
then closed the public hearing at 8:01 P.M., turning
the matter back to the commission for discussion.
CDD Koules commented that tonight's hearing is on the
variance only and staff will report back at the next meeting
as to whether a plot plan is needed.
On motion by Commissioner Fries to recommend approval by
City Council of d by CommissionernBruneNegative
. , motionlcarried
88- ND -12; seconded by
unanimously with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries and Acting
Chairperson Remy.
NOES: None.
ABSTAIN: None.
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ABSENT: Chairperson Burton.
SCHEDULED MATTERS.
Out of Sequence.
9 PalmeW discussion ftoanConditionand
No. 15 a for
15 for WDS
Development.
bir. Ro er Deutschman, 819 Stephens wve., rLL1y °a�ma/ of Palm
representative o WDS -eve opment isp aye P
Avenue and explained that a district to maintain landscaping
would involve each property owner within the subdivision to
pay a certain amount of money along with his regular
property taxes and this money will be given to the City to
maintain all of the landscaping.
Joe "dulley, S�'DS Aevelopment, addressed the commission
mentioning one pro 1em �„��lved with Condition #15 which is
Michigan Avenue - the cul -de -sac. Have found that Edison
Co., Mr. Dotson, Mr. Koules and theirselves are not in favor
of this cul -de -sac; would like to have this portion of
Condition #15 deleted.
Jim Dotson recommended that the applicant's request be
honored and delete the portion of Condition #15 pertaining
to the cul -de -sac at Michigan Avenue.
On motion by Commissioner Schuelke to amend Condition #15
for 87 -TM -8, Amendment #2, dated May 23, 1988, by deleting
the phrase pertaining to the cul -de -sac on Michigan Avenue
and that the treatment of the cul -de -sac be turned over to
the City Engineer; seconded by Commissioner Bruner. Motion
carried unanimously with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, SChuelke, Fries and Acting
Chairperson Remy.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAIN: None.
Commission recessed at 8:32 P.M., reconvening at 8:38 P.M.
8. Request by James Dotson, City Engineer, to address the
Planning Commission regarding clarification of direction to
write Conditions of Approval for John Thomas' project, 87-
DP -1 and 87 -TM -3.
CDD Koules explained that at the September 6, 1988 meeting,
this item was continued to October 4, 1988 in order to have
the City Engineer write conditions of approval and direct
staff to send out Notices of Preparation on the Draft EIR.
The Draft EIR Notices have gone out by certified mail to all
the pertinent agencies.
Mr. Dotson addressed the commission commenting that he
wanted clarification from the commission as to what it is
that he is to do - explained outside ager}cy and personal
control.
Commissioner Schuelke commented that they,can approve and
endorse the concept of projects knowing that they have to go
to all the other agencies and meet their', requirements as
well.
Mr. Dotson noted that there are projects brought to the
commission that are not feasible and an applicant should not
insist that: a project be brought to the commission and go
through all the paperwork.
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Mr. Dotson noted that if you approve a project and this
applicant is capable of pulling together everything, then he
has the right to bring improvement plans and final maps in,
get them signed off and then build. Also, he needs all the
legal documents for this project due to the easement - needs
to see if the easement prevents backing lots up to it.
Commissioner Schuelke noted that if they had a letter
stating that conditions of approval could not be placed on
this project since there are too many details missing, then
the commission could follow the city engineer's
recommendation that there is not enough information.
Mr. Dotson commented that in effect what he had said is
that the map has not been accepted because it is inadequate
and this was the recommendation to Valerie. Also his
recommendation was made a year ago that this project isn't
even close to being a plan and not to accept it - doesn't
know how it got to this point.
Also Mr. Dotson commented that he thought that the City
could be sued in leading the applicant into believing he
has a project.
There was lengthy discussion with Commissioner Schuelke
informing Mr. Dotson to draft the conditions as to his
recommendation and if unable to do so then send whatever he
has in order for the commission to have at the October 4,
1988 meeting.
CDD Koules noted that we are proceeding as was noted at the
public hearing to come before the commission October 4, 1988
with conditions.
Mr. Dotson further noted that the Circulation Element would
have to be amended and that he had about 11 circulation
element amendments that he wants to present to the city in
the next couple of months.
Commissioner Schuelke commented that the city engineer and
city staff form some type of a way of preparing for
development in this area so that when people do make an
application to develop, they (commission) can work with
them.
CDD Koules noted that the general plan has always called for
a Specific Plan on this site.
Commissioner Schuelke presented literature for a one day
seminar at UCR and asked if the commissioners might be
allowed to attend. It is to be held on a Wednesday,
November 9, 1988, cost - $145. CDD Koules noted that he
would back with this information at the meeting of October
4, 1988.
There being no further business before the commission, the
meeting adjourned at 9:31 P.M.
Sincerely,
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Plannin omm' ion Secretary
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