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MINUTES OF
OCTOBER 4, 1988
The Planning Commission met in a Regular Planning Commission
Meeting on Tuesday, October 4, 1988, in the City Council Chambers
with Acting Chairperson Remy presiding.
Meeting was called to Order at 7:05 P.M.
On Roll Call, the following commissioners were present:
Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke and Acting Chairperson Remy.
Commissioner Fries arrived shortly thereafter and Chairperson
Burton was excused.
Affidavit of Posting was read.
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed.
1. Minutes for the Regular Planning Commission Meeting of
September 20, 1988, were approved as submitted.
2. Oral Communication:
3. Director's Report: CDD Koules reported that at the City
Council Meeting of September 26, 1988, they reaffirmed the
Commission's approval of the D. J. Ward move -on building and
directed City Attorney to amend Section 15.28.090 of the
Beaumont Municipal Code that deals with move -on buildings so
that in the future the move -on buildings would be handled in
the same manner as a single family residence.
ON ITEMS 4, 5 AND 7 THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED AT 7:10
P.M., AND CONTINUED TO THE MEETING OF OCTOBER 25, 1988.
4. 87- PP -17, 87 -V -6 and 87- ND -39, a proposed 4 unit apartment
building, located at 738 Chestnut between 7th & 8th Streets.
Applicant, Victor Schiro.
5. 87- PP -19, a proposed three apartment units, located at 673
Massachusetts. Applicant, Howard Haig.
7. 88 -PP -3, 88 -V -4 and 88- ND -14, a proposed 60 unit Travelodge
Motel and a Variance to allow a 55 ft. high sign with a 200'
square foot surface area, located on the south side of
Fourth Street about 300 feet east of Beaumont Avenue.
Applicant, Sam Lee and Daniel Tsai.
6. 87 -DP -1 and 87 -TM -3, a proposed development on 160 acres
consisting of 366 detached single family units, 224 multi-
family units and 21 acres of commercial uses. The
residential construction is proposed to be developed in 9
phases and the commercial development at a future time;
located on the south side of Highway 60, and south of
Western Knolls Drive, at the westerly City limits.
Applicant, John Thomas, Beaumont Associates.
Acting Chairperson Remy opened the public hearing at 7:11
P.M., asking for proponents /opponents from the audience
wishing to speak.
Mr. John Thomas 21202 Kroll Dr., Huntington Beach
addressed the commission delivering a letter to the
secretary (see attached); commented that Hubert Webb is ill
and is unable to attend this meeting but would like to speak
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to the Planning Commission to address all the meetings
he has had with Beaumont staff members; the conditions of
approval asks for all the construction documents and all
the improvement plans before approval is given to the
tentative map - which is never done; Mr. Thomas elaborated
on each condition of approval objecting to all.
Acting Chairperson Remy then closed the public hearing at
7:40 P.M., turning the matter over to the commission.
It was the feeling of the commission that there were a lot
of unanswered questions pertaining to this project and on
motion by Commissioner Schuelke to continue this hearing
until the next meeting to allow the engineer for the
project the opportunity to address the Planning Commission
as to his views regarding the conditions of approval by the
City Engineer, and to request that our City Engineer be
present at that meeting as well as the City Manager.
Attorney Ryskamp noted that normally the City Manager
prefers not to attend the commission meetings because he
attends and represents the City Council meetings.
Commissioner Schuelke then commented that if the City
Manager could not attend, if he would address the commission
in the form of a letter pertaining to his comments and
commitments for the project - specifically sewer.
Attorney Ryskamp noted that before the motion is adopted we
need a statement from Mr. Thomas on the record that he
agrees as he agreed on the 6th of September that any action
taken at the continued meeting which is being given at his
request be deemed to have taken place on the 6th of
September for purposes of the Streamlining Act.
Mr. John Thomas, then requested that this matter be
continued to the meeting of October 25, 1988 in order to
give Hubert Webb the opportunity to share information and
discuss with the commission questions they might have;
however, in continuing this matter, he would not be waiving
any of his benefits which may have resulted or accured from
violating the State Streamlining Act and further, whatever
action is taken would be back dated to the 6th of September.
Attorney Ryskamp commented that any action that takes place
at the meeting of October 25, 1988 is deemed to have
occurred on the 6th of September for purposes of the Permit
Streamlining Act.
Commissioner Bruner then seconded the motion. Motion
carried with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke and Acting
Chairperson Remy.
NOES: Commissioner Fries.
ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: Chairperson Burton.
8. 88- PUP -2, a proposed church located on 1.52 acres at the
east side of Pennsylvania Avenue, between 11th Street and
12th Street (1174 Pennsylvania Avenue). Applicant, Kingdom
Hall of Jehovah witnesses.
CDD Koules informed the commission that due to an oversight
in the preparation and a review of the plot plan submitted,
the plot plan shows parking within the required front yard
setback. Applicant has been informed and it is the option
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of the commission to either hear this and condition it or
continue the item and refer it back to staff. The applicant
earlier represented to staff a plan they prepared that would
delete the parking within the required front yard setback.
The recommendation of staff would be no parking in the front
yard setback.
Acting Chairperson Remy then opened the public hearing at
7:53 P.M., asking for proponents /opponents from the audience
wishing to speak.
Mr. John Jones, 1159 Orange Ave, addressed the commission
commenting: yesterday they were informed that there was a
problem with the parking and they prepared a new site plan
which was distributed to the commission; the extension of
the setback is incorporated in the landscaping areas; added
four parking spaces on the south side; have answered the
question about the setback, feels this matter should not be
continued and because of the approval indicated in the staff
report would like to have it considered and approved
tonight.
Mr. David Hacker, 490 S. Farrell Dr., Palm Springs ,
addressed the commission speaking in favor of the project
and commented that Pennsylvania is shown on the General Plan
to be a secondary highway and as such is meant to carry a
good amount of traffic - this would be a normal and a good
usage of this type of street for a facility of this type.
Mr. Mark J. Stoker, 6342 Airway Dr., Yucca valley, addressed
the commission stating he is a general contractor from Yucca
Valley; has outgrown the existing facility in this
community; gave background on type of construction method
that will be used; vacant land in the back will be used for
future growth; will comply with the ordinance pertaining to
fencing.
CDD Koules noted that he would like to keep the fencing open
for a closer look as what the interpretation of the
ordinance is.
Mr. Darrell Cornett, 13116 Palo Alto, Beaumont, addressed
the commission speaking in favor of building the Kingdom
Hall.
Mr. Pat Moore, 1186 Pennsylvania, Beaumont, addressed the
commission speaking in opposition of the project. His
property adjoins the property in question; concerned over
traffic problem, noise; wanted to know if his zoning would
be affected.
CDD Koules explained that it would not affect his zoning.
Acting Chairperson Remy then closed the public hearing at
8:21 P.M., turning the matter back to the commission.
CDD Koules commented that he would recommend that Condition
No. 1 of the conditions of approval be amended to read that
applicant shall substantially conform to the revised plot
plan as submitted on October 4, 1988, along with the
Architect's Renderings for front elevation and floor plan.
Further, Condition No. 2 to construct 5' -wide sidewalk
in line with existing sidewalks.
The commission discussed this project at length
incorporating the above amendments in the conditions of
approval and also adding Condition No. 12 that applicant is
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to control the dust on the unimproved portion of the lot.
On motion by Commissioner Schuelke to approve 88 -PUP -2 and
recommendation of approval by City Council of 88 -ND -5 as
submitted, subject to the amended conditions of approval by
staff and the city engineer. Seconded by Commissioner
Fries. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll
call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries and Acting
Chairperson Remy.
NOES: None.
ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: Chairperson Burton.
9. Appeal filed by Adams Advertising.
This item is to be noticed for the hearing of October 25,
1988.
10. City Attorney's legal opinion in response to Commissioner
Schuelke's question of Minor Plot Plans /Plot Plan
requirements for M -L zone.
It was felt by the Commission that Mr. Ryskamp's
interpretation of Section 17.50.205 (b) 1RR1 was clear in
that if a project proposes to use vacant or undeveloped
land and there are off site improvements, and no further off
site improvements will be required, the minor plot plan may
be used, if off site improvements will be required, it is
necessary to have a full plot plan with hearing.
11. Authorization for Planning Commission Members to attend UCR
Workshop on "Property Development Agreements and Vesting
Tentative Map" (cost $145. each).
Mr. Ryskamp commented that he and CDD Koules would get
together and schedule a Workshop to be held here in Beaumont
on a Saturday morning sometime before Christmas.
There being no further business before the Commission, the
meeting adjourned at 9:05 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Cherry ylor
BEAUMONT ASSOCIATES
LIMITED PARTNERSHIP
GENERAL PARTNER
October 4, 1988
City of Beaumont
Planning Commission
City Clerk
PO Box 158
Beaumont, CA 92223 -0158
JOHN THOMAS
RE: 87 DP -1 and 87 TM -3 /Participation at Planning Commission Hearing
Dear Sir or Madam:
This hand delivered letter is intended to advise the City of Beaumont that
Beaumont Associates will participate in the October 4, 1988 planning commission
hearing pertaining to the above - captioned project under a full reservation
} of rights. Neither Beaumont Associates' decision to participate, nor any
aspect of such participation, shall be deemed a waiver of any of its rights
accruing under the Permit Streamlining Act.
Respect Submitt ,
Jo onas
aumont Associates
mmowqOCT E - 1988
CITY OF BEAUMONT
PLANNING DEPT.