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Home My Public Portal About11/15/1988 PABEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 15, 1988 Commission met i Regular Planning Commission Tuesday, November 15, 1988, in the City Council The Planning Meeting on residing. Chambers with Chairperson Burton p Meeting was called to order at 7 :02 P.M. the ere present: following commissioners Chairperson Burton. On Roll Call, ke, Fries and Chair Commissioners Bru/ex gchuelSchuel Commissioner Remy was Affidavit of Posting was read. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. The minutes for the special Planning Commission i Meeting of 1. 1988, were appro ed as submitted. October 25, 2. Oral Communication: None.j 3• Director's Report: None, CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: located at a proposed three (3) apartment units, 4 87- PP -19, licant, Howard Haig.' 673 Massachusetts. Applicant, applicant explained to the commission that plot plan and COD Koules exp with a Regular Planning has not provided staff licant will recommends continuing this matter to the Reg 17, 1989- The app Commission Meeting of January then a new application will be be so informed of this continuance and if submittal of his plot plan is not received, asked for as well as fees. to the then continued by the commi This matter was ssion1989. Regular Planning Commission Meeting of January 17r PUBLIC HEARINGS: re - annexation 5• 88- ANX -3, 88 -RZ-5 and 88- ND -16, a proposed p zoning to RSF (Residential - Single Family) on 9•S3 acres, APN #406- 110 -002, located on the west side of Sunnyslope Avenue, Way. about 350 feet north of its intersection with Cougar Applicant, Aware Development. the CDD Koules presented the st be aff report e property rcabe commission that it is a requirement that the pre -zoned in order to go to LAFCbfor angexat1singleAPPfamily is thinking of eventually subdivision of 6000 s.f. lots that ro ertl be Fee be conjunction the with owners to the west of this p P Y• zone request f to pYOmotecsinglebfamilyhhomescin °this area. City in trying Chairperson Burton then opened the publi hinglntoatspeak. p.m., asking for proponents/opponents There being none, she then closed the public hearing at 7:10 P.M., turning the project back to tht commission for discussion. Upon arrival of a representative for this project, Chairperson Burton re- opened the public hearing at 7:10 P.M. PC Minutes' November 15, 1988 Page 2 rt_ Mr. Ro er Wilson, 6377 Riverside Ave , Suite;101, Riverside addressed the commission commenting, that,,,; e was -, ^_ the Director of Development Marketing, Sal , s for:, =Aware Development and wanted to know if he could answer any questions. { There being no questions, Chairperson Burton -then closed the public hearing at 7:11 P.M., again turning the matter back to the commission. fill ` After discussion, and on motion'` by " Commissioner Fries, seconded by Commissioner Bruner, recommendation by City Council for approval of this proposed pre - annexation zoning to RSF (Residential - Single Family)`. 88 -RZ -5 and Negative Declaration 88 -ND -16 was made. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote:. AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries and Chairperson Burton, NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Remy. 6. 88 -TM -2 (Tract No. 23491) and 88- ND -17, for a proposed subdivision consisting of eleven (11) lots of single family homes, on 2.54 acres, APN #406 - 122- 012,,rlocated at the northeast corner of Cougar Way and Sunnyslope Avenue. Applicant, Ronald C. Hemsley. CDD Koules informed the commission that the proposed subdivision meets the general plan requirements of maximum density of 5 du. to the acre (4.03 du /ac)F'and the lots do meet the zoning for RSF, recommending approval of the tentative map and the negative declaration. Chairperson Burton then opened the public hearing at 7:15 P.M., asking for proponents/opponents-from the audience wishing to speak. IN Matt Webb, Webb Associates, 3788 Mccray St.,`'Riverside, addressed the commission noting :«they - a reviewed the conditions objection to John of approval prepared by''staff any of the conditions; will an and swer they have 'no questions: on to Cougar Way with the high school parking lot located immediately south of the project and the transportation and maintenance yard which handles all the bus traffic located on the southwest of this project; expressed concern pertaining to the pedestrian traffic on Cherry Avenue and the vehicle traffic coming from Beaumont Avenue on to Cougar Way; no traffic signal lights or stop signs other than updating the existing sign on Sunnyslope and an additional stop sign on Kirby Avenue cul -de -sac; approximately 3/4 mile which is a straight of way without any stopping of traffic; high density of traffic at specific times qf the day - all a concern that the commission should consider. Kath Taylor, 11463 Cherry Avenue,<•.,.;addres ed the commission commenting that she is east o the project wanted to know if the homes would be sold or if they would be rentals.' feels a wooden fence should be required in back. Dale D'Avignon, Transp addressed the commiss as that of Mr. Wood. Drtation - Beaumont Lon stating.his,coi JOlIVVl L.Lb GLAU1 1 ° cerns -were t e�same PC Minutes November 15, 1988 Page 3 x, Matt Webb, again addressed the commission commenting:,`agrees and recognizes the need for some traffic 'signals in the area; could not afford to build 'A'traffic: signal with only 11 homes involved; has a condition to pay a`:traffic, signal fee and when sufficient fees have been collected, it will be used to pay for traffic signals; there is a requirement to put stop signs at the end of their 'streets which extend into Sunnyslope; the intent of this project is to create single family homes for sale; no intent to 'keep as rental property; is agreeable in placing a wooden fence along the street. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Burton then closed the public hearing at 7:25 P.M., turning the matter back to the commission. Matt Webb, commented that on Cougar 30' is the half street widtT h and the other 30' from the parcel to the west he thought had already been dedicated to the City with Commissioner Schuelke noting she would;, like to have verification of this. Mr. Webb then commented that this could be added as a condition; explained that the 15' shown on the map is a dimension to a proposed water line; will be dedicating additional street right of way to the City after recordation; explained paving will be 201 on their side of the centerline plus additional paving on ';the other side pursuant to City standards; believes there is a requirement to pave 281. CDD Koules commented that the two conditions that have been discussed namely, 1) applicant shall construct a 6' wooden fence along the easterly property line of the project and 2) A 30' right of way on Sunnyslope Avenue represents one - half of the ultimate right of way could be added to the conditions of approval as 11 and 12. Further, this is the legal contract of conditions imposed on the project. Matt Webb, explained that the 20 feet is from the centerline of the street to the face of the curb and then the sidewalk is from the face of curb going towards the lots. John Wood, asked if the commission has the option for requiring a three way stop at Sunnyslope and Cougar, with CDD Koules noting that the overall view of-the whole street pattern needs to be considered to see if it fits the plan for the circulation element. CDD noted that crosswalks and stop signs can be put in at some later date without being bound to this specific project. Commissioner Schuelke noted that this matter should be continued and give,: the school district members an opportunity to discuss with the City Engineer their concerns. She also would like to find out what is lacking on the tentative map as well as the reason for the condition where he (Dotson) wishes to delete the 6' block wall. Chairperson Burton then re- opened the public hearing at 7:53 P.M., and continued the meeting to the next Regular Planning Commission Meeting of December 6, 1988. SCHEDULED MATTER: 7. Appeal of Community Development Director's decision reference outdoor Advertising Displays (Billboards).;, per Section 17.60.015 of Beaumont Municipal Code. N Chairperson Burton noted that, a request from 'Adams Advertising had been received to' continue =.this matter= to December 6, 1988. ti CDD Koules explained that the last meeting was continued at the request of the City Attorney for him to have a chance to look at the constitutional issues involved. His memo addresses point by point the objections raised by the sign company's attorney. Mr. Ryskamp was unable to be here due to illness; however, his recommendation is to sustain the Community Development Director's refusal to accept the application. CDD Koules further commented that Mr. Ryskamp feels that he has answered the objections raised by the attorney for the billboard company and the only issue is whether the action to deny receipt of the application was correct or incorrect - not merits or.. demerits of the proposal. It is Mr. Ryskamp's feeling'" as well as his (Koules) that they were within the legal frame work of the ordinance to deny the application. Chairperson Burton noted that staff and Mr. Ryskamp feels that a continuance is not necessary. CDD Koules noted that generally continuances are made on matters that require approval review, or the applicant was not at the meeting to present his case. Michael Slagle, speaking from the audience commented that it a been his experience to give professional courtesy face to face with the applicant. Legal ramifications not withstanding. Commission felt as a courtesy (since the request for continuance was received), this item should be continued to the next Regular Planning Commission Meeting of December 6, 1988. There being no further business before the commission, the meeting adjourned at 8:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Pecr ry T PC Minutes "' November 15, 1988 Ali Page 4 trx Chairperson Burton noted that, a request from 'Adams Advertising had been received to' continue =.this matter= to December 6, 1988. ti CDD Koules explained that the last meeting was continued at the request of the City Attorney for him to have a chance to look at the constitutional issues involved. His memo addresses point by point the objections raised by the sign company's attorney. Mr. Ryskamp was unable to be here due to illness; however, his recommendation is to sustain the Community Development Director's refusal to accept the application. CDD Koules further commented that Mr. Ryskamp feels that he has answered the objections raised by the attorney for the billboard company and the only issue is whether the action to deny receipt of the application was correct or incorrect - not merits or.. demerits of the proposal. It is Mr. Ryskamp's feeling'" as well as his (Koules) that they were within the legal frame work of the ordinance to deny the application. Chairperson Burton noted that staff and Mr. Ryskamp feels that a continuance is not necessary. CDD Koules noted that generally continuances are made on matters that require approval review, or the applicant was not at the meeting to present his case. Michael Slagle, speaking from the audience commented that it a been his experience to give professional courtesy face to face with the applicant. Legal ramifications not withstanding. Commission felt as a courtesy (since the request for continuance was received), this item should be continued to the next Regular Planning Commission Meeting of December 6, 1988. There being no further business before the commission, the meeting adjourned at 8:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Pecr ry T