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MINUTES OF
AUGUST 15, 1989
The Planning Commission met in a Planning Commission meeting on
Tuesday, August 15, 1989, in the City Council Chambers with
Chairperson Burton presiding.
Meeting was called to Order at 7:00 P.M.
Affidavit of Posting was read.
On Roll Call, the following commissioners were present:
Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries and Chairperson Burton.
Commissioner Remy arrived shortly thereafter.
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed.
1. The minutes for the Planning Commission meeting of Wednesday,
July 5, 1989, were approved as submitted.
2. Oral Communication: Mr. Jack Chamberlain, 1334 Michigan,
Beaumont, addressed the commission stating he opposed the
sewer main being placed in the street on Michigan and further,
stressed his concern as to whether the rear of his property
had an alley or an easement. After discussion with the
commission and the City Engineer explaining the reason
for the sewer placement on Michigan, this item was placed on
the agenda for discussion at the Meeting of September 19,
1989.
3. Director's Report: Community Development Director, Stephen
Koules, introduced Mr. Douglas Fazekas, Assistant Planner to
the Commission noting that Mr. Fazekas was hired by the City
May 12, 1989.
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
4. 89 -TM -1, (Tract 24273) and 89- ND -10, for a proposed
subdivision of 7.72 acres, consisting of thirty -six (36)
single family lots, located at the southeast corner of 14th
Street and Michigan Avenue. Applicant, Seam Properties, Inc.
COD Koules presented the staff report noting that the project
is designed to prevent direct traffic onto 14th Street and
meets the minimum lot size of 6000 s.f. for the zone. Staff
has recommended a 6' high wall along 14th Street and applicant
has agreed to this. A wall with the proper landscaping in
front would serve as an attractive buffer - these would be the
rear yards of lots backing up to 14th Street.
Chairperson Burton then opened the public hearing at 7:09 P.M.
asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to
speak.
Mr. Shahan Gharibian, President of Seam Properties, Inc.
addressed the commission commenting that he does agree with
the conditions with one correction. The correction is 4.03,
Section 4 - On -Site Improvements of the City Engineer's
Conditions - would like "if needed" added.
Mr. Jim Dotson, City Engineer, wanted to clarify and to add
the words "if needed" to the Section and commented that it may
well be they will not need a retaining wall.
Chairperson Burton commented that the name "Cherry Circle" was
not conducive for a street name and suggested it be changed
with Mr. Gharibian stating "no problem ".
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There being no opponents wishing to speak, Chairperson
Burton then closed the public hearing at 7:15 P.M. turning
the matter back to the commission for discussion.
There was lengthly discussion by the commission with Mr.
Dotson explaining the sewer main as well as the one he would
like to see abandoned. He further commented there would be no
vehicular access into the back yards, the only access being
for Edison Company and the City of Beaumont. Also, there
would be no dedicated alleyway, only an easement for sewer
and power lines.
Chairperson Burton re- opened the public hearing at 7:26 P.M.
in order for Mr. Chamberlain to speak.
Mr. Jack Chamberlain, 1334 (Michigan Avenue, Beaumont,
addressed the commission speaking as an opponent to the
location of the sewer main.
Chairperson Burton then closed the re- opened public hearing
at 7:34 P.M. turning the matter back to the commission for
discussion.
City Engineer Dotson commented that due to the expense to
the City, it was his preference that every back yard sewer
be removed and this was the reason in his conditions that he
asked for a stub so that in the future the sewer main can be
placed in the streets. Mr. Dotson also identified 14th Street
as an alternate east /west corridor in order to keep I -10 from
being jammed in the event of an emergency.
Mr. Dotson also explained the setbacks from 14th Street for
this project commenting that beginning at the centerline over
38' you are at the curb face, then over 6 more feet you're
at 4419 then over 11 more feet you're at the face of the
block wall and between the back of the sidewalk and the face
of the blockwall will be 11 feet of dirt which will be
planted. The developer will bear the expense and will then
submit to a 1972 Street Lighting and Landscaping maintenance
Act. It is the intent to get a decorative block wall and
then landscaping in front of it of a width of 6' on Michigan
and a width of 11' on 14th Street and a 6' wide sidewalk.
Commissioner Schuelke asked about bikeways with COD Koules
noting it should be looked at in a comprehensive way.
On motion by Commissioner Bruner recommending approval by
City Council of 89 -TM -1 and 89- ND -10, subject to the amended
conditions of approval for a proposed thirty -six (36) lot
single family subdivision, located at the southeast corner of
14th Street and Michigan Avenue with the change of 4.03 of the
City Engineer's Conditions to show "if needed" and the
addition of Condition No. 10 to read "Landscaping Plan shall
be reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission "; seconded
by Commissioner Fries. Motion carried with the following roll
call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries and
Chairperson Burton.
NOES: Commissioner Remy.
ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: None.
It was noted for staff that the Landscaping Plan does not
have to be advertised.
5. 89 -TIM -4 (Tract 24621) and 89- ND -119 for a proposed subdivision
of 7.96 acres, consisting of thirty -five (35) single family
lots, located at the southeast corner of 14th Street and
Pennsylvania Avenue. Applicant, R.G. Development.
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COD Koules presented the staff report noting that most of the
lots range from 6000 to 7000 sq. ft. in size.
Chairperson Burton then opened the public hearing at 8:06 P.M.
asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to
speak.
Mr. Dick Garcia, 563 Acosta Drive, Banning, addressed the
commission noting they were happy to accept all the conditions
as proposed by the Planning Department, also his new address
is 3559 West Ramsey, Suite C -6, Banning.
Chairperson Burton then closed the public hearing at 8:10 P.M.
turning the matter back to the commission for discussion.
City Engineer Dotson, noted that the curb on this project from
centerline of 14th Street will be 381. Along Pennsylvania
the right of way stays at 40' width on the half side. Also,
between the sidewalk edge and right of way should be 11 feet.
Cherry Avenue will be 100 feet plus. He noted that the
written conditions supercedes the map with COD Koules noting
that the motion could be approved as per amended corrections.
Jim Dotson then asked for a correction under 4.04 (d) on his
conditions to read "Lot 21 not Lot 2211.
On motion by Commissioner Fries recommending approval by City
Council of 89 -TM -4 (Tract 24621) and 89- ND -11, subject to the
amended conditions of approval for a proposed subdivision of
7.95 acres, consisting of thirty -five (35) single family lots,
located at the southeast corner of 14th Street and
Pennsylvania Avenue as corrected, and that the Landscaping
Plan come before the commission for review and approval with
4.03 of the City Engineer's Conditions to be corrected to read
"if needed "; seconded by Commissioner Remy. motion carried
with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Fries and Remy.
NOES: Commissioner Schuelke and Chairperson Burton.
ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: None.
6. 89 -PM -1 (PM 24806) and 89- ND -12, for a proposed subdivision
project of 1.26 acres consisting of four (4) single family
lots, located at 1215 Pennsylvania Avenue. Applicant, Don
Higdon.
COD Koules presented the staff report noting that this project
is to be split into 4 lots with each lot averaging in size
from 10,692 sq. ft. to almost 15,000 sq. ft. Staff's
recommendation is that of approval.
Chairperson Burton then opened the public hearing at 8:24 P.M.
asking for proponents/ opponents from the audience wishing to
speak.
Mr. Tom Isgro, 1241 Pennsylvania Avenue,
the commission commenting that he did no
have to remove the existing power pole -
is that the post office will not deliver
is placed behind the sidewalk. Further,
sell the lots.
Beaumont, addressed
t understand if they
their understanding
mail if the mailbox
his intention is to
City Engineer Dotson noted that the conditions says "keep the
sidewalks clear ".
Ms. Betty Chaffin, 1246 Massachusetts, Beaumont, addressed the
commission stating she lives at the end of Massachusetts and
wanted to know how the street would be extended. Also she
wanted to know about the water and if they would be improving
the end of Massachusetts.
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Chairperson Burton explained to Ms. Chaffin that at this time
there are no houses being built - just splitting the property
into 4 lots. Also the applicant will be dedicating 30 feet of
roadway if and when the parcels develop.
COD Koules noted that when this tentative map records as a
final map, building permits can then be pulled.
City Engineer Dotson noted that he is asking for 30 feet of
dedication and an additional 20 feet for an easement. Also,
contrary to constructing the half cul -de -sac as shown, it is
now recommended that they construct a full 40 foot width
roadway.
Mr. Howard Clasen, 1160 E. 12th Street, Beaumont, addressed
the commission noting that the cul -de -sac floods when there is
a heavy rain.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Burton
then closed the public hearing at 8:41 P.M. turning the
matter back to the commission for discussion.
City Engineer Dotson noted that under Section 2, 2.01
addresses the run -off coming from Parcels 2 and 4; 2.02
addresses the run -off coming from Parcel 3; 2.03 addresses the
run -off coming from Parcel 1. He explained that the effect of
all this is to split the drainage so that it does not
concentrate at a single point.
On motion by Commissioner Fries recommending approval by City
Council of 89-PM-1 (Parcel map 24606) and 89- ND -12, subject to
the conditions of approval for a proposed subdivision project
of 1.26 acres consisting of four (4) single family lots,
located at 1215 Pennsylvania Avenue; seconded by Commissioner
Bruner. motion carried unanimously with the following roll
call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries, Remy and
Chairperson Remy.
NOES: None.
ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: None.
Commission recessed at 8:47 P.MI., reconvened at 8:59 P.M.
7. BO- CUP -6 /Swap Meet. Review of Conditions of Approval of
Conditional Use Permit 80 -CUP -6 as approved by the Planning
Commission on July 2, 1985, for swap meet property, located at
1501 East Sixth Street. Applicant, Richard & Johnny Jacquet.
CDD Koules informed the commission that Mr. Fazekas would be
presenting the staff report for this project and that also
this afternoon the applicant brought in a revised plot plan
showing the spaces more accurately.
Assistant Planner Fazekas commented that this was a review of
the swap meet and that upon five (5) different dates, he and
the building inspector visited the swap meet.
Chairperson Burton then opened the public hearing at 9:02 P.M.
asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to
speak.
Mr. Johnny Jacquet, Owner of the Swap Meet, addressed the
commission stating they agree with the recommendation and
findings and have already done a lot to come into compliance.
The only question he has is on the parking lot - would prefer
to level and gravel the entire area to control the dust. He
noted it would be difficult to line the car spaces since the
cars work it under. Investors have purchased both parcels.
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Chairperson Burton noted that in 1985 there was a total of 94
vendor spaces on one parcel and no approval for the second
parcel. Now there is a total of 141 vendor spaces on both
parcels. She then asked Mr. Jacquet if they ever split a
space with Mr. Jacquet stating "yes we do, but had never
exceeded the maximum of 150" and splitting a space is done
primarily when the vendor has driven a long way to set up at
the swap met.
Mr. George Salate, 5399 -A Via Carisso, Leisure World, Luguna
Hills, addressed the commission commenting that the owners
as well as himself were very impressed with the swap meet
and the orderliness of it.
Chairperson Burton then closed the public hearing at 9:17 P.M.
turning the matter back to the commission for discussion.
There was much discussion pertaining to this project with
Chairperson Burton noting that possibly Johnny Jacquet should
make a new application.
Commissioner Schuelke questioned the traffic problem coming
out of the swap meet as well as people crossing 6th Street
with Assistant Planner Fazekas noting that a traffic study
would need to be done to find out the feasibility of
crosswalks. Mr. Fazekas commented that the applicant has
spoken with the property owner on the west side of Xenia and
they (applicant) will post "no parking" signs.
After discussion, Chairperson Burton re- opened this public
hearing at 9:30 P.M. and continued the matter to the meeting
of September 19, 1989, in order for the applicant to have time
to bring the swap meet into compliance with the conditions of
approval.
COD Koules noted that since there is some contradiction in
terms of the dust control and stripping, the applicant needs
direction from the Planning Commission as to what is preferred.
Mr. Jacquet commented that the problem is the oil doesn't stay
because the chalk absorbs it.
Chairperson Burton then noted that the dust control method
shall be 3/4" crushed rock or sprayed with a low specific
gravity road oil which shall be applied to the roadways of the
parking area, but may exclude parking stalls for stripping
purposes. The entire unpaved section along the property in
question of Xenia Avenue shall be sprayed with the same low
specific gravity oil. The road oil shall be as specified by
the City Engineer. Dust Control Method to be completed within
21 calendar days after approval of the Conditional Use Permit.
Applicant is to work with staff and city engineer on what to
do about the parking /stripping.
SCHEDULED MATTERS:
B. 87 -PP -2 and 87- ND -23, a request for a one year extension of
time for proposed 144 apartment complex, located at the
northwest corner of 14th Street and Beaumont Avenue.
Applicant, Allied Group, Inc.
COD Koules presented the staff report explaining the
extensions and noting he felt that the second extension could
establish a precedence - applicant should offer convincing
justification to the Planning Commission that there is a
unique situation that has precluded them from completing the
process.
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Mr. Francois Elahl, 11950 Elahl Court, Sunnymead, addressed
the commission commenting he disagrees with the Planning
Director and City Engineer. They have paid for the increase
in capacity of the sewer line in the sum of about $34,000.
He noted that Mr. Dotson has all their improvements except the
sewer design; the water district has annexed their project,
and have worked with the fire department and flood control on
the water channel.
City Engineer Dotson commented that he returned the
applicant's plans and check since it would not be proper to
accept the money and plans because of the water problem they
had. If they have gone ahead with the water company, they
should have immediately re- submitted their plans. Has only
initial set in his files.
Mr. Elahl stated they received written notification from the
water district of their annexation in June 1989.
Mr. Nick Saab, 6 Morro Bay Dr., Corona Del Mar, addressed the
commission commenting they had had problems with the water
district but that it was resolved and they are in the process
of annexing. Also they are contributing money for the sewer
hook -ups.
Mr. Elahl further noted that he hand delivered to the
attention of Mr. Koules and City Manager a letter that their
design of the channel had been approved by Flood Control.
In response to the Commission's questions, CDD Koules noted
there is not a limit on the number of extensions, there is a
limit on the life of a plot plan which is 3 years.
On motion by Commissioner Schuelke to continue this matter to
the next meeting of September 19, 1989; seconded by
Commissioner Remy. Motion carried with the following roll
call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Schuelke, Remy and Chairperson Burton.
NOES: Commissioners Bruner and Fries.
ABSTAIN: None.
ABSENT: None.
9. 89- MPP -8, Appeal by applicant of Conditions of Approval
regarding Minor Plot Plan to install Modular Unit with
Security Quarters, located at 202 E. Third Street.
Applicants, David and Emeline Schuelke.
It should be noted for the record that Commissioner Schuelke
excused herself as a commissioner, seated herself in the
audience and spoke as a proponent for the project.
COD Koules presented the staff report noting that the report
recommended approval with certain conditions. The issue being
the limitation of the building for caretaker's use as
opposed to office use and on the engineering conditions that
were requested to take care of the drainage. The appeal is on
limiting the use to a caretaker's structure and the
engineering conditions which the applicant feels are excessive.
Mr. Koules felt there may be some ambiguity in the fact the
Light Manufacturing Zone limits the mobilehome to a
caretaker's use and does not permit a mobilehome construction
office - this is however, what the ordinance literally says.
Ms. Emeline Schuelke, addressed the commission and in
response to Mr. Koules' statement about the ordinance asked
where in the ordinance did it o.k. an office for the truck
terminal by way of a mobile unit. Further, Mrs. Schuelke
stated that "they were encouraged that they would not have a
problem and to go ahead and pay for the unit
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and place it on the site, which they did ". Also Anchor Forest
Products had a modular unit (same location) which was moved
and they (applicants) would be replacing a unit.
COD Koules commented he was not aware this was a replacement
of an existing use. It came to him as a caretaker's unit and
partly for office use. He noted that the first application
was approved by Valerie Beeler but that it expired. He also
noted that the truck terminal was represented as a structure.
City Engineer Dotson noted that if this matter was continued
he would have the City Attorney write a backup letter
supporting his position - will not withdraw his
recommendation.
Ms. Schuelke commented that she had spoken with Mr. Hershey
and that he stated the mobile unit that had been there was not
a problem to him and never was.
On motion by Commissioner Fries to grant the appeal to install
a Modular Unit with Security Quarters, located at 202 E. Third
Street; seconded by Commissioner Remy. Motion carried with
the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Fries, Remy and Chairperson Burton.
NOES: Commissioner Bruner.
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Schuelke.
ABSENT: None.
There being no further business before the commission, the
meeting adjourned at 10:52 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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