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MINUTES OF
SEPTEMBER 19, 1989
The Planning Commission met in a Planning Commission meeting on
Tuesday, September 19, 1989, in the City Council Chambers with
Chairperson Burton presiding.
Meeting was called to Order at 7:00 P.M.
Affidavit of Posting was read.
On Roll Call, the following commissioners were present:
Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Remy, Fries and Chairperson
Burton.
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed.
1. The minutes for the Planning Commission meeting for Tuesday,
August 15, 1989, were approved with a correction on Page 4,
under AYES should read "Chairperson Burton ".
2. Oral Communication: None.
3. Director's Report. COD Koules reported that at the City
Council meeting of September ill 1989, the Planning
Commission's action of August 15, 1989 was reversed on the
Schuelke's appeal.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING:
4. 80- CUP -6 /Swap Meet. Review of Conditions of Approval of
Conditional Use Permit 80 -CUP -6 as approved by the Planning
Commission on July 2, 1985 for swap meet property, located at
1501 East Sixth Street. Applicant, Richard and Johnny
Jacquet.
Assistant Planner Doug Fazekas presented the staff report and
noted he had pictures and a plot plan showing Mr. Jacquet had
met the conditions.
At this time the pictures were given to the commission for
their perusal.
Mr. Johnny Jacquet for Jacquet's Swap Meet, addressed the
commission commenting that the only question they had was the
west side parking on Xenia Avenue, noting also they would
like to propose an alternative method to chalking. They would
prefer to use concrete curb stops to control parking within
the swap meet thereby graveling the whole area effectively
controlling the dust.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Burton
then closed the public hearing at 7:12 P.M. turning the matter
to the commission for discussion.
Mr. Fazekas commented that the applicant had fire
extinguishers in the interior of the gift shop as well in the
office which is a trailer in the back.
In response to Commissioner Schuelke asking "we are reviewing
the original CUP for compliance" Assistant Planner Fazekas
noted it was his understanding we were reviewing the
conditions under Mr. Larson in 1985; however, a copy of the
original back in 1981 is also attached. Further noting that
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during his inspections, there had been no electrical drop
cords across driveways, vendors were clearly marked, there
were about 350 parking spaces with four (4) additional
handicap spaces. Also as to the traffic study, staff
consulted Chief Funston who will address the problem on west
Xenia.
Chief Funston, Beaumont Police Department, addressed the
commission noting he had had only one complaint concerning
traffic at 6th Street. He further commented the only thing he
had looked into was the parking situation on the west side of
Xenia noting, there has been no volume count or traffic
study done on 6th Street. After observations as to the
parking on Xenia his suggested options were 1) do nothing and
allow it to go until it presents a problem at which time he
will contact Mr. Koules, or 2) establish a "no parking" zone
which would have to be a recommendation to the City Council.
Chairperson Burton noted that pursuant to the map in her file
of 1985, it did not show the trailer and it was her feeling
that if it were allowed, then improvements would be needed.
Mr. Fazekas commented that it was staff's opinion when it was
approved in 1981, the original plot plan showed a trailer;
however, there is a map which does not have the word "trailer"
written in - otherwise they are the same. Chairperson Burton
noted that the previous owners were told to remove the trailer
then asked Mr. Jacquet if there was a trailer there in 1985?
Mr. Jacquet responded by stating "not after they moved (1981
owners) the fence was torn down just prior to moving and the
trailer was taken out ".
Mr. Jacquet, Sr. spoke from the audience noting that the
trailer was in the plot plan when he took the swap meet over
and he used the same plot plan that the previous owners used
in 1981. Chairperson Burton again commented that the travel
trailer was not listed in the plot plan of 1985.
The commission went on to discuss the parking and the chalking
thereof. Commissioner Bruner noted that the people park in an
orderly manner; however, if the owner wants to put in curb
stops it will make it even better. Chairperson Burton noted
that there is a condition that says they must chalk but it can
be deleted if that is what the commission desires.
Commissioner Schuelke noted that the asphalt area is in need
of restripping, numbers need to be repainted, etc. maybe even
patch some of the asphalt that is in poor condition.
Mr. Jacquet asked if the public hearing could be reopened with
Chairperson Burton reopening the public hearing at 7:35 p.m.
Mr. Jacquet again addressed the commission pertaining to
splitting of spaces and noted this was done to avoid problems.
If the vendors do not get a space they will go out and sell in
the lot (usually 2 to 4 spaces split on their busy days).
Also they make certain that all vehicles stay on the space and
as a result there is no over crowding.
Chairperson Burton noted that she would like to add a
condition to have only one vendor to each selling space. She
then closed the public hearing at 7:39 p.m. turning the matter
back to the commission for discussion.
Commissioner Schuelke questioned the proper fee per space
with Mr. Fazekas commenting that a feasibility study would
need to be addressed with comparisons to other swap meets in
the area.
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Commissioner Bruner noted that the applicant stated at the
meeting that he only splits a space when vendors come in with
a couple of items - he doesn't have two commercial type
vendors jammed into one lot to sell.
Chairperson Burton noting she wanted to discuss the travel
trailer since it is not just an office but a residence.
Mr. Jacquet noted he is living in the trailer while they are
making improvements.
Mr. Fazekas noted that it was his understanding the trailer
would be used for security reasons due to the fact there has
been problems with drug sells. He also noted that he does
have a Conditional Use Permit for a security type RU vehicle
for the site and it is not an eye sore because you cannot see
the trailer from 6th Street.
Mr. Jacquet noted that another reason for putting the
trailer in was to be able to sell tickets on the south side -
since the property is up for sell he does not know how
feasible it would be to do major improvements.
COD Koules commented he would favor the trailer staying on the
site especially since it was shown on the plot plan in 1981.
Chairperson Burton then asked what happened to the
1985 conditions with Mr. Koules stating he did not think the
1985 conditions negated the conditions in 1981. Also the
trailer should stay if it is helping to alleviate vandalism,
theft, and drug traffic and if that would be confirmed by
Chief Funston who is present, with Chairperson Burton noting
that by the same token they then could do that throughout the
City. Mr. Koules stated "but this is a conditional use
permit and as you know conditional use permits bestow special
rights with that conditional use ".
The commission then discussed the wording of Conditions 14.33
and 14.90 as well as the discussion that the building could be
used for security purposes.
On motion by Commissioner Fries to grant the conditional use
permit 80- CUP -6, subject to the amended conditions seconded by
Commissioner Bruner to read as follows:
14.33 The unpaved parking rows shall be covered with 3/4"
crushed rock with concrete parking stops installed to
separate rows and parking spaces. The balance of 14.33
to remain, deleting "overall stripping once a week with
necessary touch -up during the week ".
14.90 Dust Control method shall be 3/4" crushed rock. The
entire unpaved section along the property in question
of Xenia Avenue shall be rocked with same.
The use of the travel trailer will be allowed for 3
months from this date at which time the trailer is to
be removed.
This CUP is to have an annual review with the next
review by September 20, 1990.
Motion carried with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries and Remy.
NOES: Chairperson Burton.
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAIN: None.
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5. An amendment to an Ordinance of the City Council of the City
of Beaumont, California, adding Sections 17.20.120, 17.20.121
and 17.20.122 to the Beaumont Municipal Code (Title 17 -
Zoning Ordinance): R -Lm Zone (Residential - Low medium)
which proposes a new zone classification allowing up to eight
(8) dwelling units to the acre. Adoption of Negative
Declaration 89 -ND -13 is also being proposed.
COD Koules presented this staff report noting this was
primarily a housekeeping item explaining that the general plan
shows a land use category of low- medium density residential of
8 du /ac; however, there is no zone in the zoning ordinance
that can implement this general plan category. The area from
Maple Avenue to Pennsylvania Avenue from the northerly side of
Highway 10 to the south side of the commercial frontage facing
6th Street is shown on the general plan as low- medium density.
This area is zoned industrial, residential multi - family of 16
du /ac and some general commercial. At some future time if the
City intends to bring the zoning in compliance with the
general plan there would be no zone on the books to do this
with.
Chairperson Burton then opened the public hearing at 8:25 p.m.
asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to
speak.
Ms. Barbara Voigt, 38537 Orchard St., Cherry Valley, addressed
the commission wanting to know how many homes or lots per acre
is at the Country Crossings Development.
The commission explained the density at Country Crossing.
COD Koules explained that for each dwelling unit you need
5,440 sq. ft. Also what this means is if someone has a
lot that is 10,990 sq. ft. in size and it is zoned R -Lm they
can put two units on that lot. You would have to have a
6,000 sq. ft. lot to put one residential home.
Commissioner Schuelke felt this proposal was very confusing
and that this was a good opportunity to rewrite the ordinance.
COD Koules noted that no issue had been taken with the
Residential multi- Family and Residential High- Density Zone
which obviously allows for smaller lots and less open space.
There is a plan designation on the general plan that requires
a zone with no more than 8 dwelling units.
There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairperson Burton
then closed the public hearing at 8:45 p.m.
It was the commission's feeling that this zoning would be
adding to the confusion that is already in Title 17.
Commissioner Schuelke commented that she felt this zoning
classification was needed as per staff's recommendation but
she also felt that it be recommended to amend the general plan
for that area from maple to Pennsylvania to commercial since
it is a more conducive use. COD Koules noted that a public
notice would then be needed. He further noted that a study
would then need to be done with the commission commenting that
a study was done back when Valerie Beeler was here.
On motion by Commissioner Schuelke recommending approval by
City Council for the adoption of the proposal of R -Lm Zone as
an additional zone to be made part of Title 17 and identified
as Sections 17.20.120, 17.20.121 and 17.20.122 as per staff's
findings and adoption of Negative Declaration 89- ND -13;
seconded by Commissioner Bruner. motion carried with the
following roll call vote:
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AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries, and
Chairperson Burton.
NOES: Commissioner Remy.
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAIN: None.
It was requested by the Commission that a review of the area
between maple and Pennsylvania, along 5th Street be placed on
the next agenda and that there be no approvals of multi-
family dwellings in this area until this time.
CONTINUED SCHEDULED MATTER:
6. 87 -PP -2 and 87- ND -23, a request for a one year extension of
time for proposed 144 apartment complex, located at the
northwest corner of 14th Street and Beaumont Avenue.
Applicant, Allied Group, Inc.
COD Koules noted that this item was continued from August 15,
1989 because at that time the applicant expressed the desire
to meet with the City Engineer and work out some progress on
the submittals. He noted that Mr. Dotson recommends that the
applicant withdraw the request for a one year extension of
time on the condition that the off -site improvements which
were part of 88 -PM -10 be waived. Mr. Koules noted that he did
not agree procedurally with the City Engineer's approach to
tie these two projects together. If it is the commission's
pleasure and the applicant agrees and they want to withdraw
the request for the one year extension on the plot plan,
then the City would initiate a public hearing to consider the
waiving of those off -site conditions; however, he could not
make this commitment to the applicant. Mr. Dotson's thinking
is that he would like to get the 144 units redesigned, thus,
the reason for tieing the two together.
Mr. Nick Saab, 6 Morro Dr., Corona Del Mar, Ca, addressed the
commission, commenting that since the last meeting they had
met with Mr. Dotson and that he (Dotson) suggested they
withdraw their project (plot plan) and in return they would
get a waiver for the parcel map. If they give up the
apartment project they could possibly get their property zoned
commercial with COD Koules noting he would not support this.
Mr. Saab further noted they are in the process of annexing to
the water district and feels they are diligently working on
their project and wanted to know what else they could do.
On motion by Commissioner Remy to approve the one year
extension of time for 87 -PP -2 and 87- ND -23; seconded by
Commissioner Bruner, motion carried unanimously with the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Bruner, Schuelke, Fries, Remy and
Chairperson Burton.
NOES: None.
ABSENT: None.
ABSTAIN: None.
SCHEDULED MATTERS:
7. Discussion of Mr. Chamberlain's concerns regarding an easement
at the rear of his property located at 1334 Michigan Avenue.
Chairperson Burton read a letter received from Mr.
Chamberlain noting he was unable to attend the meeting (see
attached).
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COD Koules distributed a colored assessor's map for the
commission showing the easement and commented it was his
understanding that the sewer line is on the property line and
that the easement runs 3' to the west and 7' to the east.
Commissioner Bruner then stated that an utility easement does
not grant access for anyone other than the Utility Co. and
felt there was really nothing to discuss.
COD Koules also noted there was nothing to discuss because he
had been advised that it is a utility easement and not an
alley easement, also noting, the City has no obligation to
maintain the easement but simply reserves the right to access
it if it becomes necessary.
Commissioner Remy explained that there are people in this area
with structures /junk in their back yards climbing atop the
debris, robbing and vandalizing other people in the
neighborhood. She felt they were in violation of Title 17
since they are to have a setback of 15 feet in the rear and
that the City should enforce the setback requirement.
It was decided after discussion that this item was a code
violation and COD Koules noted that he would contact the
police department concerning this matter.
8. Discussion of revision to RSF (Residential Single Family) Zone
to require 7,000 sq. ft. minimum lot size instead of 6,000 sq.
ft.
After discussion by the commission, staff was directed to
bring to the commission on the RSF Zone a requirement that the
minimum lot area be 7,000. COD Koules noted that staff would
provide an amended proposed ordinance.
There being no further business before the commission, the
meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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