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HomeMy Public PortalAbout1991BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF - JANUARY 22, 1991 Meeting called to Order at 7:12 p.m. Commissioners Echlin and Prouty were reappointed by the City Council at their meeting of January 14, 1991, and Mayor Connors conducted their swearing in on this :date with terms expiring December 31, 1994. Roll Call: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. The Affidavit of Posting was read: The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The Minutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of December 18, 19909 were approved as submitted. 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: None. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: 4. 87- TM -8(R) Tract 23161, revision of a previously approved 2O1 lot subdivision on 63.01 acres in order to allow a lot redesign of the easterly arm of the project, located at 14th and Palm Avenue. Applicant, WDS Development. CDD Koules informed the commission that the applicant and City Engineer needed to work out some design problems and requested that this matter be continued to the meeting of February 19, 1x91. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin, this item was continued to the meeting of February -19, 1991. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Ring. NOES: None, ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. PUBLIC HEARINGS: Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman S. SP -90 -3, EIR -90 -3 and 90 -RZ -9, a proposed zoning to Specific Planning Area Zoning (SPA 4.1 dwelling units per acre) from (PUD) Planned Unit Development on 155 acres proposed for 532 single family dwelling units and two acres of retail --- _--_,_, rL-- —4-46 s- tmnaieA An 4--ho amith Side of PC Minutes of January 229 1991 Page 2 extensively with the City Engineer in order to work out ,the drainage, circulation patterns and grading of the site. Mr. Koules also noted that the applicant had questioned Condition No. 7.05(x) and the applicant would also like to add Condition 4.06 to the City Engineer's recommended conditions whereby the applicant would be reimbursed by adjacent property owners at some point and time. Also, it was noted by Mr. Koules that Revised Conditions of Approval from the City Engineer had been distributed to the commission. Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7 :24 p.m. asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. Bill Ehrlich, 6700 Stanton Avenue, Buena Park, addressed the commission stating his only concern is Section 7.05(e). whereby the City Engineer has requested they agree to pay any fees for purposes in amounts not yet determined nor established by the City Council. He noted that the State Map Act has certain conditions which they operate under which appear to be in conflict with this condition. The Map Act requires that a tentative map approval can only be based on standards in effect when the application is complete. Additionally, Section 66483 which is the ,fee portion in Article 5 in the State Map Act allows that any local ordinance may impose fees for storm drainage, sanitary sewers and off - site improvements as long as the ordinance has been in effect for a period of at least 30 days. prior to filing of the tentative map. His understanding is that the only fees that can be applied to him are those that. are in effect that have been approved by the City of Beaumont for at least 30 days prior to this hearing. Requests that this condition be amended or deleted. Mr. Jim McGillyray, Sanborn & Webb. 600 E. Tahquitz Way, Palm Springs, addressed the commission stating he had researched the fee basis and presented copy to commission (see attached). Mr. Dave Sumner, Sanborn & Webb, 795 E. Sixth St., Beaumont, addressed the commission stating this project would definitely clean -up this end of town since it is a very viable project. Mr. Jim Dotson, addressed the commission informing them that 7.07 of his conditions is recommended being deleted because at the time he had not received the preliminary title report nor soils report. Also he felt that 7.08 was appropriate to add to the conditions since it says that the City and Mr. Ehrlich will form a reimbursement agreement for expenses incurred in constructing the storm drain since the applicant is creating a storm drain for developments around his project and wants to be reimbursed for the expense. Requested that the revisions be accepted by the commission. PC minutes of January 22, 1991 Page 3 7.03.x. 6) Corrected. Public Utility Easement for storm drains through lots 7 and 9. 7.07 Deleted. For lack of a thoroughly adequate Tentative Map illustrating all proposed improvement; for lack of a Preliminary Title. Report; and, for lack of a 'Preliminary eddnibY al the Reportp other City Engineer during y during conditions the imposed imp Review process. 7.08 Added. Applicant shall enter into an Agreement with the City of Bea0mont which document shall set forth terms and conditions whereby Applicant may be partially reimbursed for expenses incurred in constructing storm drain facilities ben oher nearby and future developments Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Killing, Prouty and 'Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 7. 90 -PP -3 and 90- NO -129 a proposed Industrial Center consisting of thirteen 12.458escres a located at aViola and "8 f "B" Streets• sq. ft. on Applicant, Bill Ehrlich. C00 Koules presented the staff 'report commenting that the project meets all the zoning requirements in the M -l. zone, feels it is a high quality project and further noted there were some changes in the Planning Department's conditions of approval. Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7:40 p.m• asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. Bill Ehrlich, 6700 Stanton Avenue, Buena Park, addressed the commission wanting it to be noted for the-record that he was requesting that Section 2.07 in the Engineer's report (which is included in the Parcel Map) be deleted on the plot plan. Mr. Ehrlich went on to explain his project stating that if someone wanted two buildings they could merge lots and that building size would be from approximately 9,000 to 36,000 sq. ft. Also the conditions do allow changes and in the event a tenant or buyer has a particular use then they would resubmit a new plot plan within the slot structure from this plot plan and seek approval. The building styles have to be compatible and if it is changed then it would have PC Minutes of January 22, 1991 Page 4 Planning Department's Conditions: Condition No. 5, Corrected. County cant Firs shall Department's Riverside requirements dated December 199 1990, as attached. Condition No. 11. Addition. Applicant shall improve parking spaces to the satisfaction of the Planning Department. Parking. is not. permitted within the required setback areas as defined by Section 17.50.215(8) of the Zoning Ordinance. ►. Condition No. 20. Correction. All trash bins and /or refuse collection areas shall conform to the setback requirements and shall be completely screened by a solid fence or wall, or shall be enclosed within a building. Also, applicant shall follow approval of Inland Disposal 'requirements dated in a letter of August 29 1990 (see attached). Condition No. 24. Deleted. All roof mounted equipment shall be at least six - inches (80) lower than the parapet ball or top of equipment well and shall be painted to match the building. Evidence of compliance shall be included in building plans. Correction. Page 2 of the Conditions of Approval should read "Project shall commence development within twenty -four (24) months" not twelve (12) months. 1. Revised City Engineer's Conditions: 1.01 Correction. All On -Site rough grading,. all utility and storm drain improvements, all curbs and gutters and at least a single layer of asphalt roadway paving shall be completed prior to the commencement of any buildings' or On -Site improvements are constructed. 1.06 Correction. Along that portion of the westerly boundary that is adjacent to RSF Zoned property, construct 6'- high masonry screen wall,. said wall to. be designed for 20 psf lateral wind load. The footings for said - screen wall shall be constructed wholly within the boundaries of the Site or within easements provided for that purpose. 1.10 Corrected. All on -site drainage shall be directed to antrances to each lot and no drainage shall be directed PC minutes of January 22, 1991 Page 5 Sewer Facilities Fees Water Facilities Fees Public Facilities Fees Drainage Facilities Fees Parks & Recreation Fees Wastewater Reclamation Facilities Fees Motion carried unanimously With the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. ' SCHEDULED MATTERS: 8. Letter from Mitzi Adams appealing denial of Sign Permit No. 90- SNP -16, proposed location northwest orner Aof Beaumont Avenue and First Street. Applicants Advertising, Inc. CDD Koules presented the staff report explaining that the applicant filed for an Outdoor Advertising Billboard on the 84 Lumber site and there is presently an existing billboard across the street on the westerly side of Beaumont Avenue and within 500 feet of the proposed location of this billboard. The Ordinance reads in Section 17.60.015(&)4, that each display shall be at least 500 feet from any such display unless in a particular zone a different interval shall be specified in which event the minimum distance between Koules displays shall be not less than such -interval. further noted that staff's reading"'is 500 'feet in any direction and believes the applicants position, is that 500 feet should be measured in a lineal line along Beaumont Avenue. based Heon Kthee ordinance Attorney # the recommendation is a that of and denial. Ms. Mitzi Adams, 19081 Rocky Road, Santa Ana, addressed 'the commission stating she felt there was a discrepancy in the way the ordinance was interpreted and she then distributed material numbered 3 through 23 (see attached) to- the commission. She went through this.material outlining items on each page to the commission. Ms. Adams then showed various documents from a binder that she passed to each of the commissioners (no copies distributed) elaborating' on the lawsuit that between the Leonard City settledmpthisancase a and the 8 on noting sign is standing at Western Knolls. rnn Kniilwa noted that the Leonard billboard was erroneously PC minutes of January 229 1991 Page 6 Attorney Ryskamp then noted that Ms. Adams had reviewed extensively all of the previous sign applications and had spent a number of hours going through the permit applications and files available to her to Which she acknowledged-in the affirmative. There being no further discussion, Commissioner Echlin made e- motion to uphold the denial of 90- SNP -16, seconded by Commissioner Kisling. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring.. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 9. Consideration of Development Agreement for Deutsch Specific Plan (SP- 89 -1). CDD Koules informed the commission that Mr. Ryskamp would make a brief presentation of what a Development Plan is and noted there were some corrections he would like to offer Which are: Page 5 - should read "maximum of 4,716 residential units" instead of "minimum of 4,851 ". Also at the close of the paragraph it should read "4.1 d.u. ac" instead of "4.2". Exhibit "E" (benefits to the City) replaces the blank page of Exhibit "E ". Page 9 - at the bottom starting with "Notwithstanding" delete & 10 all four lines as well as the next 3,lines at the top of Page 10 and substitute'the following: 11. General Development of the Project 11.1 Project. Page 9 last sentence: As part of the tentative'subdivision map review, the applicant shall submit architectural drawings showing building treatment, elevations, material samples, and landscaping as part of the review and approval process for the residential portions of the Project. Attorney Ryskamp "plained the Development Plan Agreement to the commission stating that in 1979 the Government Code was amended to allow the City to enter into development agreements. It is a contract between the City and the developer about how this particular project is going to be developed and it gives the developer the opportunity to freeze most of the rules and regulations governing zoning, building and the general development of the project. When a nrniert takes 15 to 25 veers to develop, it dives the City PC minutes of January 22, 1991 Page 7 although new types of fees cannot be not locked in so that 25 years fro paying the same amount for sewer currently paying. There are aspects will change and will allow for change this is spelled out, imposed, the rates are m now they will not be connections they are of developing law that s that are positive and There being no further discussions Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin recommended adoption of the Development Agreement car � edt unanimouslyc withntheP following City Council. Motion roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kislingp Prouty and. Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. There being no further items before the commis -ion, the meeting adjourned at 8:48 p.m. Respectfully submitted, harry ylo Secret y . BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION. MINUTES OF MOW FEBRUARY 19, 1991 Meeting called to Order at 7 :00 p.m. Roll Call: Commissioners Echlin, Prouty and Chairman Ring. Commissioner Kisling was excused. The Affidavit of Posting was read: The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The Minutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of January 22, 1990, were approved as submitted. 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: CDD Koules informed the commission that at the last meeting the City Council approved Ehrlich's Industrial subdivision with the City Engineer's recommended deletion of Condition No. 2.07.01 which he had previously recommended being included in the approval. Copies have been distributed to the commission with both the page from the original conditions as well as the City Engineer's letter asking for the deletion. This parcel map will be heard at the City Council meeting on Monday, FEbruary 25, 1991. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS: 4. 87-TM-B(R) Tract 23161, revision of a previously approved 201 lot subdivision on 63.01 acres in order to allow a lot redesign of the easterly arm of the project, located at 14th and Palm Avenue. Applicant, WDS Development. COD Koules informed the commission that the applicant had submitted a letter asking for a continuance to the next meeting. Applicant is working with the Beaumont School District on a Lot Line Adjustment to acquire some of the school's land to accommodate the redesign of the easterly arm of the subdivision. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin, this item was continued to the meeting of March 19, 1991. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Kisling. ABSTAIN: None. Prouty and Chairman Ring. 5. SP -90 -39 EIR -90 -3 and 90 -RZ -9, a proposed coning to Specific PC Minutes of February 19, 1991 Page 2 On motion by Commissioner Echlin, seconded by Commissioner Prouty, this item was continued to the meeting of March 19, 1991. Matia.n carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Kisling. ABSTAIN: None. S. 90 -PM -1 (PM 26229) and 91- NO-2, a proposed subdivision of 17.68 acres into two (2) parcels (Parcel 1 is zoned C -G, Commercial General, and Parcel 2 is zoned R -MF, Residential Multiple- Family), located at the northwest corner of 14th Street and Beaumont Avenue. Applicant, Allied Group /Nick Saab. CDO Koules presented the staff report explaining that this property was uniquely zoned (split zoned). To the east of the drainage channel the property is zoned commercial, to the west of the channel it is zoned Residential Multiple Family. He noted you cannot split -zone a piece of property and expect to use both halves; thus, the need for a parcel map in order to split the property. Further, whenever the applicant's wish to develop either parcel, they would have to come in for a plot plan and at that time the City can impose necessary improvements. Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7 :09 p.m. asking ror proponents/ opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Ms. Vera McNealey, 211 14th Street, addressed the commission concerned about the drainage channel and how water would be furnished. COD Koules explained that at this time the proposal is just to split the parcel into two pieces. The property is already zoned for apartments on the westerly side of the channel and commercial on the easterly side; however, in-order for either parcel to development, it would have to be brought before a public hearing. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7 :13 p.m* turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. On motion by Commissioner Echlin, seconded by Commissioner Prouty recommending approval by City Council of Parcel Map 90 -PM -1 (PM 26229), subject to the conditions of approval and Negative Declaration 91 -ND -2, since there will not be a significant impact on the environment. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: PC minutes of February 19, 1991 Page 3 noted that the 40 acre piece of property immediately to the west is zoned RMF; however, it is being processed as residential single family. Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7 :16 p.m. asking for proponents/ opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. Mike Chang, 3818 Glove Street, Torrance, addressed the commission stating he felt it was to the interest of the City of Beaumont to approve this project. Mr. Richard Reeley, 11105 Sunnyslope, addressed the commission informing the commission that this project was not compatible to the property at the north because they have bigger lots and feels that when this property develops their lifestyles will change. Also their street is real narrow (191). Mr. Barry Steele, 11168 Sunnyslope, addressed the commission stating he doesn't want to see a lot of traffic, doesn't want 4 to 5 homes to the acre. Mr. Ernie Finley, 11211 Sunnyslope, addressed the commission questioning law enforcement, water and Marshal Creek. COD Koules noted that the property is within Beaumont's Sphere of Influence. Mr. George Cummins, 39985 Mary Lane, addressed the commission stating that Mary Lane was 151 wide - opposed to the annexation. Mr. Barry Steele, again addressed the commission stating he felt that the commission already knew what they were going to zone the property when they came in. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7 :31 p.m. turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin recommending approval by City Council of Annexation 91- ANX -10 Zone Change 91 -RZ -1 and Negative Declaration 91 -ND- 1, since there will not be a significant impact on the environment. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Kisling. ABSTAIN: None. Prouty and Chairman Ring. 8. 91- ANX -29 90 -RZ -6 and 91 -ND -3, a proposed preannexation zoning PC Minutes of February 19, 1991 Page 4 Mr. Kirk Evans, KSE Development, addressed the commission noting that this was part of the project that was approved about a month ago for KSE Development for single family homes. With this project when a plan is brought in, it will include the access which is needed by the City of Beaumont to connect in with 14th Street through Three Rings R -anch as well as KSE Development. Also this application will go along with the KSE Development Application with IAFCO as well - will be looking at it as one. There being no one also wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7 :36 p.m. turning the matter back to the commission. On motion by Commissioner Echlin, seconded by Commissioner Prouty recommending approval by City Council of Annexation 91- ANX -2, Zone Change 90 -RZ -6 and Negative Declaration 91 -ND- 39 since there will not be a significant impact on the environment. motion carried unanimously with the, following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Kisling. ABSTAIN: None. 9. Consideration of Development Agreement for the Deutsch Specific Plan (SP -89 -1) which allows for the devdlopment of a maximum of 4,716 dwelling units on 1162 acres proposed for annexation, located between 8th Street and Brookside Avenue, and between Cherry Avenue and Highland Springs Road. Applicant, Deutsch Corp. COD Koules presented the staff report noting that staff received a letter from a GIs. Pam Alps stating she would like to see parks and bicycle trails in this project (see attached letter dated 2/8/91). He (Koules -) continued explaining that due to an administrative oversight this item was not properly advertised at the last hearing and that what is before the commission now is the exact same document that was heard and unanimously approved at the last meeting of 1/22/91. This action was necessary at the advise of legal council. Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7 :38 p.m. asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. Richard Illingworth, 37303 Cherry Valley B.lvd.,.addressed the commission concerning the blowdown facility and the main line valve station. He informed the commission of .the noise that is generated by this blowdown facility on Highland Springs. He also noted at the last meeting Mr. Taylor 4 -A 4 .... & -.4 4.6.- .. -,I ...- . J. -.L I - ...... It J L. - PC Minutes of February 19, 1991 Page 5 Ms. Jan Cummins, 39985 Mary Lane, addressed the commission complaining of the dust a•nd noise. Ms. Martha Guerta, 40281 E. 8th Street, addressed the commission noting that if density is reduced problems would be cut. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring closed the public hearing at 7 :48 p.m. turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. CDD Koules noted that what we are hearing tonight is the Deutsch Development Agreement not the Deutsch Specific Plan. The above concerns should be expressed to the city council. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin recommending approval by City Council of Deutsch's Development Agreement as amended per the meeting of January 22, 1991. motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Kisling. ABSTAIN: None. It was noted by the Commission that the next meeting would be March 199 1991. There being no further items before the commission, the meeting adjourned at 7 :50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Cherry aylo PC Sec•etary BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF MARCH i9, 1991 Q Meeting called to Order at 7 :00 p.m. Roll Call: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. The Affidavit of Posting was read. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The (Minutes for the Planning Commission (Meeting of February 19, 1991, were approved as submitted. 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: None. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS: 4. 87- TIM -B(R) Tract 23181, revision of a previously approved 201 lot subdivision on 63.01 acres in order to allow a lot redesign of the easterly arm of the project, located at 14th' and Palm Avenue. Applicant, WDS Development. CDD Koules addressed the commission noting there had been a request this project be continued to May 21, 1991, in order to allow the applicant to negotiate with the school district for a lot line adjustment between his property and the school district's property. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Kisling to continue this matter to the meeting of May 21, 1991. (Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring, NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 5. SP -90 -3, EIR -90 -3 and 90 -RZ -9, a proposed zoning to Specific Planning Area Zoning (SPA 4.1 dwelling units per acre) from (PUD) Planned Unit Development on 155 acres proposed for 632 single family dwelling units and two acres of retail commercial. The project is located on the south side of Highway 60 across from-Western Knolls Road, and running southerly for a distance of approximately 2,000 feet to a line approximately 2,500 feet westerly of the west end of Fourth Street and is identified as Rolling Hills Specific Plan. Applicant, Robertson Homes. PC Minutes of March 19, 1991 Page 2 practice throughout the City to have 20 feet. Mr. Koules noted there was a second issue involving cul -de -sacs and where there is a pie shaped lot the minimum frontage is 45 feet. Also any lots showing a side entry garage would have to follow the existing standard setbacks. Chairman Ring then asked for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to speak. 3 Mr. Dave Dodson, Planning Consultant from Newport Beach, addressed the commission giving an overview of the project and addressing the three issues as noted by CDD Koules. Mr. Dodson commented they were providing a 25 foot landscaped area adjacent to the project /freeway which will consist -of a wall treatment along the property line with mounds, landscaping, etc., and which will be dedicated to the City. He (Dodson) noted they have a.plan to incorporate the loop road system to access all the properties and to divide it into . different residential types, one for 5,000 6,000 and 7,000 sq. ft. properties. The 5,000 sq. ft. + lots have been located on the perimeter - these being the more }� affordable housing complexes. The interior is 6,000 and 7,000 sq. ft. products. Mr. Dodson also noted there is a large ravine running through the project they would like to retain which has been incorporated within the park that will run adjacent to the potential school site throughout the project and then link up with another proposed park for open space area that runs along the existing creek on the south side of Fourth Street. The intention is to provide a park for the community as well as the school and also to provide a link since it is envisioned along the creek there will be some sort of recreational trail. He noted they tried to create a community that is self sufficient, thus, the reason 2 acres will be a retail commercial corner. Mr. Dodson explained there would be a 20 ft. rear yard setback for 2 story homes; however, they do not have the setbacks for garages on lots with sideyard entries with CDD Koules commenting that a corner lot would require a side street setback of 15 feet. Mr. Dodson then commented that their biggest concern is the 45 feet requirement on the street frontage for lots on cul- de -sacs. Commissioner Prouty wanted to know how fire access would occur if there are trains blocking the tracks. Mr. Wes Alson, County of Riverside Fire Dept. addressed the commission stating the only access now is Fourth Street. They are proposing a second access on Highway 60, however, the applicant has not responded to the Fire Department's letter as yet. The train blocking the access continues to be a problem. Mr. Alson noted that 35 dwelling units be the maximum until the accesses are completed. He explained that if they could be assured of the access on Highway 60, they would be able to a L_ _i _t J_ .. ft -. ft .,A 1,o mhnoi+ a 99 minute resoonse PC minutes of March 199 1991 Page 3 access road is not going to be sufficient for both projects. Also she noted this access (which is the secondary road) is something that is being allowed until the overpass on Highway 60 can be implemented with the other projects in the area. Mr. Joe DiCristina, Vice President with Robertson Homes, addressed the commission noting that the problem with the 35 homes is that they have gone to Caltrans on a preliminary basis and all they can get at this time from Caltrans is a preliminary discussion of the access point. Caltrans will not respond until they are supplied with a tentative map and this is the reason they cannot guarantee to the City they will have an appropriate access at that point. To hold them up with a 35 home limit is a hardship. Mr. DeCristina commented that he understood the need for the access point and was willing to work with the adjacent landowner to pay for the access and the pavement for the road; however, if they are held up it will kill the project. Mr. Wes Alson, Riverside County Fire Department, stated *that some type of guarantee was needed to hold the developer to his obligation in putting in the secondary access. COD Koules noted that possibly this was a more appropriate issue to be discussed at the tract map submittal rather than the specific plan approval. There is no intention in letting this property develop beyond the parameters that are satisfactory to Riverside County Fire Department. Mr. Dave Dodson addressed the commission again noting they are willing to agree with staff on the setbacks for 2 story with 20 feet and conditions of 15 feet on the side yard except; however, they are still questioning the radius of the cul- de -sacs. COD Koules stated that staff's concern is that when you place a house on a cul -de -sac pie shaped lot, your driveway width is going to be two car widths so you take up 20 feet of that pie and there is needed a flow where visitors and tradesmen would have places to park their cars. He further noted that the City Engineer and he would like to defer this question to the tract map stage because certain cul -de -sacs would prompt one type of layout and others might differ. There being no one else wishing to speak from the audience, Chairman Ring closed the public hearing at 8:35 p.m., turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. .IMr. Tom Ryan, Chambers Group, addressed the commission noting that the Scrub Oak Woodland in its present location would not be retained. They have proposed that in the park area on the southern part of the project, it would be possible to re- established some of the Scrub Oak. The ravines would need PC Meeting of March 19, 1991 Page 4 2. Find that changes or.alteration have been required in and incorporated into the project which mitigate or lessen the significant environmental effects thereof as identified in the environmental impact report. 3. Recommend approval of 90 -RZ -9 prezoning 155 acres to Specific Planning Area (SPA) 4.1 dwelling units to the acre. 4. Recommend adoption of the attached Resolution of approval for Specific Plan SP -90 -3 (Rolling Hills Ranch Specific Plan SP- 90 -3), allowing a maximum of 632 residential single family units. Also, recommend an amendment thereto to require a minimum rear yard setback of 20 feet for any proposed two story residential structure. Furthermore, any residential side entry garage development units on corner lots shall provide 15 ft. side street setback on 5,0009 6,000 and /or 7,000 square foot lots either for single and /or two story structures. 5. Recommend approval of the Mitigation Monitoring and Report Plan as attached No. 91- MMP -3. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 6. 90 -RZ -7, 91 -GP -19 and 91 -ND -4, a request to change the General Plan designation from Rural Residential (2 dwellings per acre) to General Commercial and to change the zoning from R -A (Residential Agricultural) to C -G (Commercial General) on approx. 11.82 acres APN# 418- 310 -004 and 418 - 310 -005, located at the southeast corner of First Street and Beaumont Avenue. Applicant, The Beaumont Partners /Beaumont Land Fund X. CDD Koules informed location at one of Beaumont. Since the requirement that the parcels can be joine plus acre parcel. the commission that this is a unique the gateway entrances to the City of project site has two parcels, there is a applicant file a parcel merger so the two d and developed comprehensively as an 11 Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7 :42 p.m. asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. John Carvelli, addressed the commission informing the commission that he was here to, answer questions. PC Meeting of March 19, 1991 Page 5 2. The requested plan /zone amendment is reasonable for this site and a logical extension of the commercial plan and zoning designation existing immediately adjacent to the west. 3. The proposed general plan amendment and zoning reclassification will not have a significant impact on the environment. 4. The 11.82 acre site would allow flexibility in introducing a development proposal which could.serve as an enhancement to a gateway entry into the City of Beaumont. Any development proposal for this 6+ty 4oulck Pe subject to Planning Commission review and approval'., . Recommendation: 1. Recommend approval of 90 -RZ -7 zoning 11.82 acres (APN# 418 -310 -004 and 418- 310 -005 to C -G (Commercial - General) zoning. 2. Recommend 'approval of 91 -GP -1 changing 11.82 acres (APN# 418 - 310 -004 and 418 - 310 -005 from General Plan designation of Rural - Residential to Commercial General. 3. Approve Negative Declaration 91 -NO -4. The above actions will not have a significant impact on the environment. 4. Recommend that the applicant file a parcel merger, merging APN# 418 -310 -004 and APN# 418 -310 -005 within 30 days after City Council action on the General Plan and zoning (per applicant's attached letter). Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 7. 91 -PP -1 and 91 -ND -6, a proposed 22,000 sq. ft. metal commercial building as office space and for coating re- enforcing steel, located on the south side of "B" St. between Viele Ave. and Elm St. Applicant, Western Coating. CDD Koules addressed the commission noting that staff received a revised letter from Riverside County Fire Department dated March 18, 1991 which has been distributed 'to the commission. He further noted he would like to make an amendment to staff's Conditions of Approval No. 4, inserting the March 18, 1991 date. PC Meeting of March 19, 1991 Page 6 "Applicant should comply with the Riverside County Health Department requirements to the satisfaction of the Community Development Director." On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Kisling approving Plot Plan 91 -PP -1 -with the amended conditions of approval and recommending,. approval of Negative Declaration 91 -ND -6 by City Council, since this project will not have a significant impact on the environment. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 8. 91 -PP -2 and 91- AID -7, a proposed 441 unit mini - warehouse with manager's residence, located on the north side of Sixth, between Illinois and American Avenues and immediately east of the Rusty Lantern Restaurant. Applicant, Aware Development formerly Jasper Stone Development (87- PP -11). COD Koules addressed the commission recently received a letter. from Department dated March 18, 1991, whit No. 14 in the staff report. Also it some changes to the march 18th Department. noting that staff had Riverside County Fire :h will change Condition is understood there are letter from the Fire Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7 :55 p.m. asking for proponents/ opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. Jim McGillvray, Sanborn & Webb Engineering, addressed the commission commenting the applicant was concerned about the condition on the general roadway from the city engineer which was clarified as Item 1.33. Ms. Jolene Weiss, represents the applicant for ` Aware Development, 6377 Riverside Avenue, Riverside, addressed the commission stating she wanted to clarify Condition 1.33, they would not be doing any relocation of power poles or fire hydrants on the westerly portion of the property. City Engineer Dotson then made a point of clarification stating the conditions of approval require them to improve (pointing to the map), down pass the Rusty, pass Jimmy's to the intersection of Illinois. This improvement requires existing curb and gutter in front of the Rusty and Jimmy's be removed and replaced. Behind it are some power poles and the intention is to replace the curb and gutter only. The poles cannot be removed since there is no right -of -way behind them. The condition does apply PC Meeting of March 19, 1991 Page 7 know if these bonds can be applied to the new plot plan fees. City Engineer Dotson stated he concurred and felt that the condition should be stricken entirely. Ms. Jolene Weiss then questioned Condition No. 6.04 (e) For Various Fees. City Engineer Dotson stated that he recommends this condition remain since it is a matter that the city manager and city council wishes to deal with; however, this condition can be appealed. Mr. Charles Ware, owner of the project, 6377 Riverside Avenue, Riverside, addressed the commission commenting he did not understand the last comment. City Engineer Dotson again noted that you have the right to appeal anything approved or disapproved by this commission. COD Koules commented that it should be pointed out that at the present time, the City is in the process of establishing mitigation fees and that any forthcoming fee system would be applied in a fair and equitable manner. Mr. Charles Ware then asked that in his situation could he pay the fees when the building permit is pulled instead of just leaving them undetermined. Mr. Ware also commented about the parking spaces. He wanted to know if he could be given credit for parking in front and in aisleways along side of the buildings. He mentioned they were only using 40 percent of the property and did not want to take and eliminate the building behind the manager's quarters for parking whenever they have 3 1/2 acres to park. Mr. Ware went on commenting that he also needed financial help in putting the off -site improvements in. COD Koules corrected Mr. Ware's statement regarding "40 percent usage of the site" indicating that the site is proposed to be built to the maximum without any room left for any additional building and that Mr. Ware's statement is totally misleading. Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 8 :13 p.m. turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. Ms. Karen Cudney, Fire Department, Riverside County, addressed the commission noting items to be read into the record. Item No. 4 Minimum Width is 24 feet in lieu of 38, also Item No. 15 is to be deleted in reference to Gate Entrances. On motion by Commissioner Kisling, seconded by Commissioner Prouty to approve Plot Plan 91 -PP -2, subject to the amended rnnHit.inna of nnnrnval and also recommend aooroval of Neqative PC Meeting of March 19,1991 Page 8 Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 9. 89- TM -8(R) and 91 -NO -8, a proposed project consisting of 73 lots of single family homes, located on the southeast corner of Beaumont Avenue and Cougar Way. Applicant, Thomas Shelton. CDD Koules addressed the commission informing them that the applicant and City Engineer needed to get together and work out mutual acceptable approaches in preparing a tract map, therefore,. it is requested that this item be continued to. the meeting of May 21, 1991 so the applicant can work with the City Engineer. Mr. Tom Shelton, 11522 Seacrest Drive. Garden Grove, addressed the commission questioning the turn - around and access from the Fire Department's requirements. He strongly recommended that the channel be maintained along its present line. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin to continue this project to the meeting of May 219 1991. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 10. 91- ANX -39 91 -RZ -2 and 91 -NO -5, a proposed pre - annexation zoning from Riverside County R -1 (One Family Dwellings) to RSF (Residential Single Family) on 5.15 acres, APN# 406 -181- 001, located on the south side of Brookside' Ave.. starting at 120 ft. west of Maureen Drive, and then westerly for approx. 415 ft. to Orchard Height Ave. Applicant, Allied, Group, Inc. /Nick Saab. CDD Koules presented the staff for an annexation, noting that backing onto the Deutsch further explained that -this development proposal. report explaining the process this property would be piggy - Property annexation and was not a tract map nor a Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 8:28 p.m. asking for proponents/ opponents from the audience wishing to speak. PC Meeting of March 19, 1991 Page 9 Mr. Dick Reeley, 1105 Sunnyslope Ave., Cherry Valley, addressed the commission commenting that it Wasn't true that the City of Beaumont does not take in property that doesn't want to come into Beaumont - gave an example of American Avenue. Also he said he understood that the County would no longer keep you if you were an island. Mr. Jack Shresspury, 11036 Maureen Dr., Cherry Valley, addressed the commission in reference petitions that had to be gotten in order to kill annexations. Ms. Lora King, 11027 Maureen Dr., Cherry Valley, addressed the commission commenting that the land had already been divided into lots with COD Koules stating the City had no evidence that this property has been subdivided, he noted that the record shows this to be one lot of 6.15 acres. Mr. Darrell Barbarick, 40675 Norman Rd.,' Cherry Valley, addressed the commission stating that at the time he purchased his property you had to have an acre in order to build - would like to see this maintained. Also, it is his understanding that Cherry Valley is in the process of incorporating and some of the property in question has been proposed to the County for incorporation to Cherry Valley. Ms. Andy Sheridan, 11066 Maureen Dr., Cherry Valley, addressed the commission concerned as to who would help in the event of an emergency, also questioned the flooding of Brookside. Ms. Michelle Cushing, 40585 Lincoln Dr., Cherry Valley, again addressed the commission with the question to Mr. Saab as to why he wanted to annex this property to the City of Beaumont - wants to keep a rural area. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public, hearing at 8 :48 p.m. turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin, recommending approval by City Council of Annexation 91- ANX -3, Zone Change 91 -RZ -2 and Negative Declaration 91- ND -5, since there will not be a significant impact on the environment. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. There being no further items for hearing, the meeting adjourned at 8:441 p.m. BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Of MAY 21, 1991 Meeting called to Order at 7:00 p.m. Mr. Michael Burch was sworn in as a commissioner by mayor Connors. Roll Call: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. The Affidavit of Posting was read. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The Minutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of March 19, 1991 were approved with the following corrections to Page 2 and 5 as follows: "three sq. ft." be deleted form page 2, third paragraph, line seventeen. "City" be deleted and "site" inserted on page 5, number 49 fourth line. 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: At the City Council's meeting of May 13, 1991, Rolling Hills Specific Plan was approved by a vote of 3- 2 at its second reading; however, a council member has ask for reconsideration of the second reading and the item will again be placed on the June 10, 1991 City Council agenda. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS: 4. 89- TM -8(R) and 91 -ND -89 a proposed project consisting of 73 lots of single family homes, located on the southeast corner of Beaumont Avenue and Cougar Way. Applicant, Thomas Shelton. This item was continued to the Planning Commission Meeting of June 18, 1991. 5. 87- TM -8(R) Tract 23161, revision of a previously approved 201 lot subdivision on 63.01 acres in order to allow a lot redesign of the easterly arm of the project, located at 14th and Palm Avenue. Applicant, WDS Development. This item was continued to the Planning Commission Meeting of June 18, 1991. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 6. 90 -TM -1 (Tract 25272), 91 -MND -1 and 91- MMP -4, for a proposed subdivision of 37.65 acres, consisting of 159 single family PC minutes of May 21, 1991 Page 2 Mr. Charles Schultz, Reid & Hellier, 3880 Lemon Street, Riverside, addressed the commission commenting he was representing Mr. Charles Ware and that they are in agreement with all the proposed conditions of approval but they would however, like to have a couple of clarifications on the conditions. Mr. Bill Gable, Gable, Cook & Beckland, 547 N. Main St., Riverside, addressed the commission stating they would lose about 5 lots in this tract if held to the 45' frontage. Also that up until the council meeting last month, they had a concensus among themselves that this tract would be alright with the 40' frontage. However, in laying out the final map they would attempt to make the 40' lots wider but doesn't feel that every lot can be 451. Chairman Ring noted that some lots were less than 40' wide with COD Koules commenting that awhile back he and the developer were talking about 40' wide lots, but then Rolling Hills project came up and prior to the final revision, he indicated by memo form to Jim Dotson he would like to see 45' wide lots. City Engineer Dotson addressed the commission explaining the cul -de -sac lots and the .curb face, right of way and setbacks. Mr. Charles Schultz noted that the intent of the design is to ensure that there is enough room for the 16' driveway and the parking of one vehicle. He also noted that the map and the application indicate there are 159 lots however there are 154 lots with two remainder parcels which could result in a total of 156 lots. Mr. Charles Schultz went on commenting about the purpose of the two remaining lots (at the and of'the Flood Control Channel), that they were attempting to get their adjoining neighbor to the north to agree to do a Lot Line Adjustment. This way you would have a straight lot with the design remainder adjacent to lot 114 and 113 which would become a square lot with the remainder piece of this triangle becoming an additional lot. He wanted clarification when and if these would ever become legal lots and would they be acceptable in two years as legal lots based on their design. Commissioner Prouty questioned what the City's point of view was concerning the two lots with COD Koules noting he did not see how one could give ony warranty as to whether they will be considered legal a couple of years from now. Mr. Charles Schultz explained their intent was to square off these two lots as the adjoining property owner comes in and does a Lot Line Adjustment and they in turn exchange }hroo nno hiinArnri }hc of on =nro nn nno onA aniita ro nff tho PC minutes of May 21, 1991 Page 3 Mr. Schultz went on to question Condition No. 8 and Condition 1.06. He wanted it clarified that on Condition No. 8 (agreement with Cherry Valley Parks for fee) that this language does not call for an additional park fee by the City. Also does not need language pertaining to the twenty -four month approval. On Condition No. 1.06 for bond improvement, he noted that some of the conditions of approval on Tract 23646 are also contained on this tract map and doesn't feel the bond should be dup]4cative - doesn't want to double bond. City Engineer Dotson explained that Condition No. 1.06 states that on Tract 23646 the words "SHALL NOT" be offered to and shall not be accepted by the City as sufficient security to guarantee completion of required improvements within Tract No. 25272 was very clear. This protects the City from the applicant subdividing the parcel. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring closed the public hearing at 7 :40 p.m., turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. Commissioner Echlin asked about the status on Tract 23646 with City Engineer Dotson commenting that the plans are near completion; however, there is a critical document known as the Marshall Creek Improvement Agreement which is the agreement that binds six properties to mutually fund and construct this Cougar Crossing and the Marshall Creek Improvement. It is a complicated document and it too is nearing completion. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Kisling recommending approval by City Council of 90 -TM -1 (Tract 25272), Mitigating Negative Declaration 91- MND -1, since there will not be a significant impact on the environment, Mitigating Monitor Plan 91- MMP -4, subject to the Conditions of Approval, with the amendment that the fourteen (14) lots that is presently designed to be 40' or less at the right of way, be increased to a minimum of 42' at the right of way /property line. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 7. 91 -PUP -1 and 91 -ND -9, a proposed 1,560 sq. ft. temporary classroom building addition to an existing church complex located at 1252 Beaumont Avenue. Applicant, Calvary Baptist Church. CDD Koules presented the staff report noting that the applicant is proposing a recreational building to the rear PC meeting of May 21, 1991 Page 4 COD Koules noted that in the conditions of approval there is a time limit since the Public Use Permit is a special rivilege and this project will be subject for review five r5) y eas from date of approval. Commissioner Prouty questioned the standards and asked if this modular is held to the standards -of the UBC as far as its electrical grounding, etc. with COD Koules commenting that the building inspector would have to inspect and make sure that it complies with the UBC. Commissioner Prouty commented that the UBC does not require specific type of grounding of these types of units which has been hazardous. On motion by Commissioner Echlin, seconded by Commissioner Prouty recommending approval by City Council of Public Use Permit 91 -PUP -1 and Negative Declaration 91 -ND -9, since there will not be a impact on the environment, subject to the conditions of approval with an amendment to Condition No. 8 to read as follows: Before occupancy of the temporary classrooms the applicant shall meet with a representative from the Building and Safety Department to meet all required regulations and standards and to pass the 25 OHMS Meg test. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 8. 91 -PM -1 (PM 27045) for a proposed subdivision of 176 acres, consisting of five (5) parcels (each greater than 20 acres). Project is bounded on the south and west by Bth Street and Interstate 10, on the north by Florence Street and Marshall Creek and on the east by Elm Avenue. This' project has previously received tentative tract map approval (89 -TM- 3) (Tract 24039) for 500 single family lots, complying with prior approval of Specific Plan 88 -02 and EIR 88 -2. The applicant now seeks to phase the project by proposing a five - lot overlay on the prior approval of 89 -TM -3. Applicant, LNC Properties LTD, No. 27/Premier Homes. COO Koules presented the staff report noting the prior approvals and stating that the applicant is now requesting to overlay a parcel map on top of the tentative tract map approval in order to phase the project and possibly have the option of offering a portion of it to merchants. This does not undermine or negate the conditions of approval on the tract map or the EIR or the specific plan. PC meeting of May 21, 1991 Page 5 There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 8:01 p.m., turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. On motion by Commissioner Kisling, seconded by Commissioner Prouty recommending approval by City Counpil of Parcel Map 91- Pm -1 (PM 27045), subject to the conditions of approval. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. Next meeting tentatively scheduled for June 18, 1991. There being no further items before the commission, the meeting adjourned at 8:02 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Cherry- ylo PC Se ary attachments BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTTES OF JUNE At 1991 Meeting called to Order at 7:00 p.m. Roll Call: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling,, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. The Affidavit of Posting wa's read. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The minutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of May 21, 1991, were approved as submitted. 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: CDD Koules noted that at the June 10, 1991 Council meeting, Councilmember McLaughlin withdrew his motion to reconsider Rolling Hills Specific Plan; therefore, the plans stand approved per recommendation. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS: 4. 89- TM -B(R) and 91 -NO -B, a proposed project consisting of 73 lots of single family homes, located on the southeast corner of Beaumont Avenue and Cougar Way. Applicant, Thomas Shelton. This item was continued to the Planning Commission Meeting of July 16, 1991, pursuant to applicant's request. S. 87- TM -80) Tract 23161, revision of a previously approved 201 lot subdivision on 63.01 acres in order to allow a lot redesign of the easterly arm of the project, located at 14th and Palm Avenue. Applicant, WDS Development. This item was continued to the Planning Commission Meeting of July 16, 1991, pursuant to applicant's request. PUBLIC HEARING: 6. 90 -TM -1 (Tract 25272), 91- MND-wland 91- MAP -4, for a proposed subdivision of 37.65 acres, consisting of 159 single family lots, located on the northside of Cougar Way, approximately 2,000 ft. east of its intersection with Beaumont Avenue. Applicant, Charles Ware. (This item was heard at the Planning Commission Meeting of may 21, 1991 but is being rescheduled due to applicant's error in public notification). CDD Koules presented the staff report noting that this item was heard at the May 21, 1991 meeting, but to an error in the public notification, the information provided to staff did not show the 300' radius out far enough to cover the whole PC minutes of June 18, 1991 Page 2 Mr. Bill Gable, Civil Engineer with Gable, Cook &'Beckland, representing the applicant, addressed the commission stating he is in agreement with the staff report; however, he wanted to make one thing a matter of record and that is the "designated remainder lots" which was discussed at the meeting of May 21, 1991. He would like to have the two designated remainder lots be eligible for two building permits - feels these two lots meets the minimum sizes and dimensions of legal lots; they are being called designated remainders because they are unable at this time to do a Got Line Adjustment with the owners to the north because of some legal problems they have. Sir. Gable feels they should have the option between now and the time the final map is prepared to have these numbered lots included in the map without coming back to the commission. City Engineer Dotson explained that the reason for two designated lots being considered as one designated lot is to prevent any building. It is hoped that when this development does come in that it will be straightened out and the lots will then be consistent. If building permits are allowed you will preclude any adjustment and will be projecting the problem on into the next subdivision; thus his recommendation is to leave it as a single designated remainder which in effect says if you want to go ahead and build one house on it fine. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7:13 p.m. turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. There was lengthy discussion by the commission with Commissioner Prouty asking if there was someway that a park could be mandated for this area. CDD Koules noted that staff has shown that in larger projects they have been sensitive to the open space and park requirements; however, due to the cost of improving the channel it might be an unreasonable burden on this applicant. Mr. Bill Gable, again addressed the commission commenting they had discussed parks with staff and it was part of the environmental review package which is part of the report and as Mr. Koules' stated because of the flood control channel, it was suggested that they meet with the County Noble Creek District and make an agreement with them to mitigate the park issue. The developer is making a cash donation of $40,000. to go into a fund the District has -for their Regional Park issue on this project - this is how they have addressed the park issue. CDD Koules then noted that staff has a standard condition that is in all reports whereby applicant meets with the City of Beaumont and the Parks & Recreation District to determine fees. PC Minutes of June 189 1991 Page 3 is a potential of something like 800 residential units and another 140 apartment - would a 5 acre park be sufficient for 900 family units? Commissioner Prouty stated that the Park would serve all the surrounding areas. The commission then decided that more than one community park would be needed ranging in size from 2 to 5 acres. Mr. Greg Barker, 1099 Pennsylvania Avenue, Beaumont, addressed the commission commenting that what the commission is asking is unjust and a financial burden on this development. He felt that instead of another park, the money should go to help the Parks & Recreation District finish some of their plans for more park area which has been in the works for sometime. Commissioner Prouty then commented that the financial burden would be spread to all areas that would be bensfitted from the parks. Mr. Charles Ware, owner of the project, addressed the commission stating he has been 3 years trying to get before the planning commission to get this map approved and doesn't feel it is fair at this time to ask him to wait for the City to do an analysis to see -if they want to take some of his property for parks. Noted there is a high school across the street. CDD Koules stated there is a real value in small parks since people with families use these parks and if this can be done in a fair and equitable manner it would be beneficial. He noted that direction is needed from the commission and city council and staff will negotiate parks as best they can. Mr. Dotson explained the financial arrangements whereby the residents who will be benefitting will pay for the facilities. He noted however, that the real problem will come from the development that has already occurred before this Park master Plan was designed. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin, the commission voted to defer this project for 60 days to August 20, 1991, until the small parks issue is studied as to where locations should be within this project (if any) as well as future projects in the area. Motion failed for lack .of a majority with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin and Prouty. NOES: Commissioner Burch and Chairman Ring. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: Commissioner Kisling. This matter was again discussed at length by the commission .i +1, r;+.%, Fa rnni noon nn+ ann ata *inn 4-hav noori i natrm-+i nna PC Meeting of June 189 1991 Page 4 Chairman Ring stated he personally felt that this developer should not lose acreage for a park after he has already gone through the process - also what would the delay serve? Also he would like to pass on to City Council the suggestion they make lot sizes in the future no less than 45 feet widths on cul -de -sac lots. In response to Commissioner Burch's comment, Mr. Ware stated he did not understand theif n nagreement ith saying theyes Parks further, he had alrea d y signed a District. In response to Chairman Ring's comment, City Engineer Dotson commented that it would allow time to report back on the feasibility or the possibility of getting a site somewhere in the neighborhood that would satisfy concerns. He also noted they may come back with five 2 acre parks sprinkled all around in the area - move the parks a little closer to the areas of population rather than concentrate on a single 10 acre parcel. Mr. Greg Barker, again addressed the commission stating that these questions should have come up a long time ago for this project. Comes a time when developer's cannot afford to keep waiting and keep being put off 60 or 90 days or whatever the time period is that you are asking. Mr. Charles Ware, again addressed the commission wanting to know how he could help the planning commission or city council if his project is postponed and a site is recommended somewhere else. Commissioner Prouty noted that the only benefit he sees is if the study came up that this project happens to be part of the project. Ms. Jolene Weiss, Aware Development, addressed the commission commenting that they have to do significant improvements in this project one of which is Cougar Crossing which is going to be about $250,000 and the channel has to be put in which is about a $1,000,000 - the amount of money that has to be invested in this project is enormous. Doesn't feel it is fair that Mr. Ware suffer for any planning that may or may.not have happened. Ms. Weiss also noted that should the planning commission defer this project, she would like for them to be very specific on what they are asking the city planning and the city engineer to review, what boundaries are they going to look at for these parks. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Echlin, the commission voted to recommend deferring this project for 60 days until August 20, 19911 in order to allow PC meeting of June 189 1991 Page 5 AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. There being no further items on the agenda, the meeting adjourned at 8:15 p,-m. Respectfully submitted, fhadrry a to Y Se retary BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF AUGUST 209 1991 Meeting called to Order at 7:00 p.m. Roll Call: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. The Affidavit of Posting was read. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The Minutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of June 18, 1991, were approved the date d submitted. for the The heading secretary theaMlinutestto record a change o read "Beaumont Planning Commission Minutes of June 18, 1991• 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: COD Koules informed the commission th as City Engineer Jim Dotson and Associate Planner Doug would be making most of the presentations since he had been on vacation. PUBLIC HEARING: 4. Parks /Open Space Area Study for the general area from 14th Street to Brookside Avenue and from Beaumont Avenue to Cherry Avenue. Applicant, City of Beaumont. COD Koules informed the commission that at the meeting of June 18, 1991, staff was directed to prepare a park concept for the northerly portion of the city. The planning department, city engineer and have called ithisoF"Thetallorthr together City Park Concept done so Plan". Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7 :05 p.m. asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to speak. City Engineer Dotson then read verbatim to the audience the "Report to Planning Commission Regarding Providing of Parks with New Residential city Cougar Wa Avenue", dated g 1, aswellasdisplaying exhibits on this issue. Mr. John Hart, Attorney with Reid & Hellyer, 3880 Lemon Street, Riverside, addressed the commission stating they had no comment to the concepts presented in the report but wanted to address the applicant's participation on Tract 25272 in funding some of these mini parks. They would have an +h; c mart i rri nnf i nn fnr the laoal reason that it Minutes of PC meeting August 20, 1991 Page 2 Commissioner Echlin then asked (pursuant to Dotson's report), if the City may be able to acquire the Edison easement for free and wanted to know how this could be checked on. CE Dotson noted that Mr. Shelton's tentative map has to include the 100' wide strip in one of the conditions of approval ( in the packets) and is labeled Lot 69 and Mr. Shelton is required to deed this to the City in fee title. There was discussion as to the location of the parks and Edison's easement as a park with COD Koules noting that the easement was meant as a riding trail and the concept was to use the easement, the drainage channel, open space on large projects to connect the whole horseback riding trail around the city. CE Dotson noted that riding trails could fit very nicely since there would have to be access roads. CE Dotson went on explaining that the City Council should get involved now and for the commission to request them to ratify their action and then city council can bring in consultants and create whatever park plan they feel is the most desirable. He also explained that Deutsch Specific Plan utilized the 400' easement for all sorts of parks. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7:35 P.M. On motion by Commissioner Burch, seconded by Commissioner Prouty requesting an expansion of the current report by City Council, presented by the City Engineer on the parks /open space issue and that they consider all alternatives in greater detail. motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARINGS: 5. 87- TIM -B(R) (Tract 23161), a revision of a previously approved 201 lot subdivision on 63.01 acres in order to allow a lot redesign of the easterly arm of the project, located at 14th and Palm Avenue. Applicant, WDS Development. COD Koules informed the commission that the way the City Engineer's Report reads is that you are looking to affirm the North City Park Concept, consequently, items that will be affected should be continued. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Burch to continue Items 5, 6, and 7, due to the parks /open - f - - - M -1' -- - - -.-2 -J ..- _ -:-- -1 .. ...3 41.. 4.6- C.-.1 1 . -...,. -- Minutes of PC meeting August 209 1991 Page 3 7. 90 -TM -1 (Tract 25272)9 91 -MNO -1 and 91- MMP -4, for a proposed subdivision of 37.65 acres, consisting of 159 single family lots, located on the northside of Cougar Way, approximately 2,000 ft. east of its intersection With Beaumont Avenue. Applicant, Charles Ware. Continued when Item 5 was called. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 8. 89- -PP -29 Am. #1, and 89 -ND -79 a request for a one year extension for a proposed 32,827 sq. ft. mini - warehousing Allegheny facility on 1.55 00acfeet north of on Sixth Street. Avenue about Street. of Applicant, Vincent Danise. Associate Planner noting eConditione No.a 19 had report outlining been added the project and 9 COD Koules noted that it had been the practice in the past to not go beyond the second extension and pursuant to Commissioner's Prouty question, he further noted that the commission could indicate to the applicant of their desire not to have this extended another time. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Kisling, approving the second extension for Plot Plan Bg -pp -2, Am. #1 and Negative Declaration 89 -ND -7 and notice being given to isheropect. Motion would be the last with extension for project. the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. 9. 89 -TM -6 (Tr. 23646) and 89 -NO -99 a request for a one year extension for a proposed 50 lot subdivision, located at the north side of Cougar Way about 1800 ft. applicant,of Aware interesection with Beaumont Avenue. Development. Associate Planner Eazekas presented the staff report noting that Mr. Ware's letter was asking for an extension of 24 months; however, only one year extension are allowable. Chairman Ring opened e public e • for prop onents % o PP one ts from the audience wishing to speak Mr. John Hart, Attorney with Reid & Hellyer, 3880 Lemon Street, Riverside, addressedr the �FommissionA�statin ,g hey do Minutes of PC Meeting August 20, 1991 Page 4 Mr. Hart continued to speak regarding Tract 25272 commenting they were not prepared to waive nor extend this project. Commissioner Prouty y recordedheand commission will gohatoCity already Council motion which as for further review. Mr. Hart stated the Government Code prohibits the commission from attaching additional conditions on approvals for the conditions that have already been recommended by staff. Commissioner Prouty commented that this project was never officially approved - was null and void due to the notification. Mr. Hart noted the applicant is in agreement with all the conditions recommended by staff including participation with the local parks group for contributions to local parks, however, they object to the addition of new park requirements that have been imposed subsequent to this application's filing since at the time it was deemed complete. Government Code Section 66474.2 states: "The local agency (commission or city council) shall apply only to those ordinances, policies and standards in effect at the date the local agency has determined that the application is compatible or complete pursuant to Section 65943 of the Government Code ". INr. Hart went on commenting that the statute prohibits the creation of additional conditions and it is inappropriate to add new conditions since it is a new issue proposed or attempted to be proposed upon this applicant after the application was deemed complete. The applicant has reached an agreement with the Beaumont Parks District to exchange mitigation fees in lieu of parks space. COD Koules commented that he felt we were co- mingling this Item 9 with the other previous item that was continued and felt that Commissioner Prouty was right in stating action had already been taken on Item 7. Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7:58 p.m. asking staff for comments. On motion by Commissioner Echlin, seconded by Commissioner Prouty recommending approval by City Council of a one (1) year extension of Tentative Map 89 -TM -6 and Negative Declaration 89 -ND -9. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ARRTATN! NnnR_ BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 149 1991 Meeting called to Order at 7:00 p.m. Roll Call: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. The Affidavit of Posting was read. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The Minutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of August 209 1991, were approved as submitted. 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: CDD Koules noted to the commission that the Minute Order, dated August 26, 1991 by City Council, pertaining to the Open Space Study Area was included in their packets. CON'T PUBLIC HEARINGS: 4. 90 -TM -1 (Tract 25272), 91 -MND -1 and 91- MMP -4, for a proposed subdivision of 37.65 acres, consisting of 159 single family lots, located on the northside of Cougar Way, approx. 29000 ft. east of its intersection with Beaumont Avenue. Applicant, Charles Ware. CDO Koules informed the commission that this item had been: continued several times, it does propose 159 single family homes and all are of minimum lot size of 6,000 sq. ft. with an average lot size of 69600 sq. ft. The proposal does most the zoning for the area, the general plan and the applicant has worked extensively with the City Engineer to set up a street network as well as the improvement of the drainage channel. Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7:05 p.m. asking for proponents/ opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. Bill Gable, Civil Engineer. representing Aware Development, addressed the commission stating they had read the conditions of approval and takes no issue with the conditions. Commissioner Burch ask if the map showing the 42 ft. frontages for the cul -de -sacs had been redrawn with Mr. Gable stating "yes, they have been changed and are to scale ". There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7 :07 p.m. turning the matter back Minutes of PC Meeting September 17, 1991 Page 2 Tract Map 90 -TM -1 (Tr. 25272), Mitigating Negative Declaration 91 -MND -1 and Mitigating Monitor Program 91- MMP -4, subject to the conditions of approval. Motion carried with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: Commissioner Kisling. 5. 89- TA -8(R) and 91 -ND -89 a proposed project consisting of 73 lots of single family homes, located on , the southeast Shelton. of Beaumont Avenue and Cougar Way. APP COD Koules noted that this item had been continued and that minimum lot size is 60000 sq. ft. Also the City Engineer has incorporated several conditions similar to those on properties in this general area. Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7:10 p.m. asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. Thomas Shelton, 11622 Seacrest Or., Garden Grove, addressed the commission stating he had a problem with Conditions No. 3.03 and 4.01. Stated he was willing to drill a well but would like credit for the cost of the well. He commented that if these two issues can't be resolved then he would like for his project to be continued. There being no one else wishing to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7:17 p.m. turning the matter back to the commission for discussion. City Engineer Dotson responded to Mr. Shelton's comments stating he would advise Mr. Shelton to withdraw his statement asking for a continuance since he can request an appeal from city council for these two conditions at the time of that public hearing. He noted that this commission is in no position to know all the ramifications that surround the water WDSs Tract Mr. which says that the conditions from drainage will be underground. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Burch recommending approval by City Council of Tentative Tract Map 89- TM -8(R) and Negative Declaration 91 -ND -8, subject to the conditions of approval. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Minutes of PC Meeting September 17, 1991 Page 3 Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 7:22 p.m. asking for proponents /opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Those speaking in opposition were: Mr. Paul Coppage, 10011 Jonathan St., Beaumont, addressed the commission commenting he was a baseball coach at Beaumont High School and stated that at this point they have the only regulation size grass infield and baseball field in the City of Beaumont and that he is here tonight to protect something that is used by the youth in the community. He noted that the contractor informed him that the field could be relocated because they wanted to put a street through 60 eet right tthieldfi which the school would be giving up The school district did have a proposal whereby they would try to relocate the field and the contractor was in some sort of an agreement with this. The last thing he (Coppage) heard concerning this relocation was that it cost too much money so the project was dropped. Mr. Bob Jones, 305 Tenth Place, Beaumont, addressed the commission stating he was the principal at Beaumont High School and commented that the developer came to the school district with a lan to put in six or seven additional lots. They (the school had no problem with that so long as their primary responsibility to provide for the education and well being of their students were met. Apparently the contingency plan developed by the district was not adequate or cost too much money or simply did not meet whatever prerogative that WDS had so they (WDS) decided to circumvent that and come directly to the commission in an attempt to annex school property to get these additional lots. The simple fact of the matter is that relocating a high school baseball field is not a matter of simply moving the bases, chalking new basa- paths and then starting up again. It is a very extensive process. It is generally acknowledged throughout the De Anza League of which Beaumont High School has been an active participate for many years, that it is the single best, the premier baseball field in that league. They are attempting to protect the property rights and the current good conditions they now enjoy. Mr. Corky Cloudy, 1114 Radka Avenue, Beaumont, addressed the commission stating he was the high school varsity basketball coach and the assistant baseball coach and commented that the school is growing and if you take land away from the field it would be a shame - it's the best field in the DeAnza League. Feels there are some things that can be worked out but they have to work within the concept "that if they're giving something they have to get something in return. Have to look at the options. Minutes of PC Meeting September 179 1991 Page 4 Mr. Robert Guillen, 126 W. 5th St., Beaumont, Assistant Superintendent of Business, addressed the commission stating they had been working with WDS in the past on this matter. A letter was sent on May 21, 1991 to Mr. James L • Dotson but they had no response. In this letter, however, they stated the initial cost of restructuring the baseball facility. Their staff believes that the direct alignment of Cedar View Drive does provide a benefit to WDS by allowing additional lots to be developed and by releasing the potential homeowners from obligation of an annual assessment to pay for storm drain improvements - so there is a cost savings to WDS. He stated they have not received a response from this letter from anyone. Mr. Guillen ask that this not be approved and that it be continued for further discussions. City Engineer Dotson was then asked to comment on this project and read the first page of his conditions for the audience. He noted that this tract was originally approved by city council in its entirety on May 23, 1988 and because the developer opted to complete the subdivision in phases, special conditions for Phase I were prepared pursuant to the Provisions of the Map Act. Prior to the council approving the original map in 1988 and continuing until now he has had severe concerns about developing the most easterly portion of this tract which resembles and will be called "Panhandle ". In early 1988 the developer was encouraged and did attempt to give the panhandle property to the adjacent Beaumont High School - which offer was rejected. There are three maps which depicts different roadway alignments and he (Dotson) proceeded to place them on the wall explaining each calling them Version 1 through 3. The city council insisted that Version 1 was to be adopted because it was desired to have a connection between Palm Avenue and Cherry Avenue (Dogleg Version). Both Version 1 and 2 presented problems and the only reason that a tentative map for Phase 2 of Mr. Simonian's tract is before the commission is because he (Dotson) ask for it. Mr. Simonian did not ask and was content to do whatever the city said. Mr. Dotson went on to say he was here now because he believes Version 3 which takes off a sliver of ground from the baseball field is the most preferable to the city. Version 3 however, presents some difficulties which the commission must consider, but it will in its completion alleviate the flooding of 14th Street since as it has been pointed out Mr. Simonian would have to put in a storm drain which would pick up the water coming from the high school. Mr. Dotson noted that three of the school people here tonight said that the school had prepared some sort of a plan for the high school baseball field to be remodeled - the high school made no such plan, instead Mr. Simonian paid for and hired Roger Deutschman a. Landscape Architect to make such a plan and, the high school baseball field to be rotated according to this plan for $112,000. Mr. Dotson went on to say that two of the school __1 - L+_ __ LL_ _..J2_,_- __IJ iL_t LL. - ­1R - - -L L -- - - - - -- 1 Minutes of PC Meeting September 17, 1991 Page 5 Chairman property then asked Si oniane in school the district placed With take the proper y Dotson stating he did not know. Mr. Sieonian commented from the audience that he had a letter from the school district, which Mr. Dotson read: "The purpose of this letter is to inform you that upon review by the District, the District does not desire that you dedicate any property in your tentative tract 23161 to the Beaumont Unified School District, Sincerely, John Thornsley ". Mr. Robert Guillen, addressed the commission again commenting that the Office of Local Assistance (OLA) has to approve where sites relating to schools can be located. They cannot locate too many sites near power lines. To take this land the OLA has to give their permission which would require studies to see if it is a healthful environment. Mr. Dotson commented that he would be very willing to sit down again with the school and with Mr. Simonian; however, he is a little reluctant to do so when the school says give and they (the school) don't give. Mr. Matt Russo, again addressed the commission commenting that it may be that the school district people do not have an engineer working for them with Mr. Dotson stating "they have several ". Mr. Russo didn't think the school district had really taken a look at the whole issue and suggested that this be given a little more time which would be best for everybody to look at again. Attorney Ryskamp stated the testimony of clear in his mind as to whether or not actually asked OLA to review the site Mr. Robert Guillen, again approached th they had looked at other elementary sites has said no to those sites. Mr. Guillen was not the school district or respond to it. s commission stating farther down and OLA Attorney Ryskamp noted to Mr. Guillents statement that the district decided that OLA would say no to this request so no request was made. City Engineer Dotson then asked Mr. Guillen what would be their preference if the land was given to them - would you want it? Mr. Guillen commented they would have to research this at this point. Mr. Bob Jones, wanted to know what requirements would be placed upon the district if this land was accepted with Mr. Dotson stating the city is not in the business of dictating to anybody that owns land that they have to do something with it. Minutes of PC Meeting September 17, 1991 Page 6 Mr. Dotson commented that the former council with the exception of one council member, insisted that this road be carried through. On motion by Commissioner Kisling, seconded by Commissioner Echlin to continue this project to the meeting ofNovember Mr. 1991, in order to give the school district, Mr. o Simonson time to unanimously matter at following rollecallevots: Motion carried unan Y AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Kisling, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: None. ABSTAIN: None. PUBLIC HEARING: 7. 91- PUP -2, 91 -V -i, and 91- ND -10, a request for a front yard setback variance from 25 feet to 10 feet for a proposed front narthex consisting of 480 sq. ft, as an addition to an existing church located at and 1234 Palm Avenue* Permit church comple Ave ue. Applic nt, San , Gorgonio Catholic Church. COD the staff seeking explaining the narthex and the va riance which Chairman Ring then opened the public hearing at 8:00 p.m. asking for proponents/ opponents from the audience wishing to speak. Mr. Ray Strobe, 666 West Gilman, Banning, addressed the he is the project architect and they had commission with stating a d concurs with the conditions of approval. worked with Mr. Manuel Baldi, Member of the Parish, addressed the commission commenting he had worked with staff and concurs. Ms. Zola Narem, 12th and Palm, Beaumont, addressed the commission speaking whereo this building audience would wanting some clarification and if was going to be three stories high. Mr. Manuel Baldi clarified her concerns. There being no one else wishing the public hearing at 8:04 p.m. commission for discussion. to speak, Chairman Ring closed turning the matter back to the On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Burch to approve Public Use Permit 91- PUP-29 Variance 91- con and of a approval. claMotion carriedlunanimously with the condition Minutes of PC Meeting .September 17, 1991 Page 7 These two items were discussed at length by the commission with Commissioner Burch commenting there is a need to have larger lot sizes since lot sizes seem to be getting smaller rather than larger which will eventually create problems. He commented that he wanted to start the process of increasing the lot size of single family dwellings as Well as reviewing residential high density zoning and general plan designations. Attorney Ryskamp wanted to know if all residential single family units built in the city are to be nothing smaller than 7,000 sq. ft. with Commissioner Burch stating "that's what I prefer". The specific plan zoning was then discussed with Mr. Ryskamp pointing out that you are dealing with about 4 different areas and types of zoning in a specific plan. He further noted that our Title 17 does not have any requirements on specific plan's - they are created for each individual specific plan and a specific plan has to have a density declared. COO Koules explained that when a specific plan comes through for processing then the zoning ordinance Title 17 is put on hold. It is possible that even if you adopt the 7,000 sq. ft. minimum lot size for the zoning ordinance there could be the latitude of allowing a smaller lot size in the specific plan. He further commented that he felt it would not be wise to take the latitude away from the specific plan. Attorney Ryskamp brought to the commission's attention that with this increased lot size you would eliminate a lot of the flexibility that currently exists in the trade off such as park developments, etc. He (Ryskamp) noted that he felt the question should be asked if a subdivision with 5200 sq. ft. lots with affordable housing is more desirable then using this same land for multiple density housing. Mr. Matt Russo, speaking from the audience, commented that he did not think 6,000 sq. ft. lots were. unreasonable for single family zoning. The key is to find those developers who want larger lots but yet leave the bottom -end open since anything below 6,000 sq. ft. needs to be approved by the commission and city council. COD Koules in response to Commissioner's Burch's concern over the high density residential zoning outlined the various densities on the zoning map and commented that he would look at the areas zoned high density residential which are vacant and then come back with a report evaluating those vacant areas of high density and come up with a proposal. He would also look at lot size's and come up with a tentative revision of the zoning ordinance to indicate the options available to the planning commission. BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF (SPECIAL MEETING) OCTOBER Be 1991 Meeting called to Order at 7:00 p.m. Roll Call: Commissioners Echlin, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. Commissioner Kisling was excused. The Affidavit of Posting was read. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The minutes for the Planning Commission Meeting of September 17, 1991, were approved as submitted. 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: C00 Koules informed the commission that at the City Council Meeting of September 23, 1991s they (Council) discussed the recommended 45' minimum lot width requirement for cul -de -sac and knuckle residential lots; however, the City Council favors a 55' minimum lot width. Mr. Koules stated that at this time his recommendation would be that action be deferred until some design input from the City Engineer and others interested in the practicality of a 55' minimum width requirement be received. He (Koules) also noted that he felt 55' minimum width would create lots. that would be 139000, 14,000, and 159000 sq. ft. and this would discourage the developer to layout land use with cul- de- sacs. DISCUSSION ITEMS: 4. Minimum lot size requirement of 7,000 square feet in the Residential Single Family (RSF) zone. C00 Koules explained to the commission that the way the Zoning Ordinance, Title 17 is now written under the Residential RSF zone it does allow the imposition of a'7,000 or 8,000 sq. ft. lot minimum if that is the desire of the Planning Commission and City Council. He commented he had checked this interpretation with the City Attorney, George Ryskamp' and he concurs that you do have the latitude to do this. He cited the Three Rings project when it came before the Planning Commission and although it was a specific plan with its own zoning in the specific plan text, the .action of the Planning Commission was to impose the same standards as the RSF zone but with the 7,000 sq. ft. minimum lots. He noted he is trying to offer the greatest latitude to both the Planning Commission and City Council since there might be. times to go with the 6,000 sq. ft. lots. Also there might be certain instances when you want to trade -off for a small park or other use or even a change of zoning from high zone to Minutes of PC Meeting October 8, 1991 Page 2 5. Existing Residential High. Density (RHD) zoned areas and High Density Residential General Plan designation areas within the City. CDD Koules presented to the commission a land use map of the high density (RHD) zoned area that he prepared through a field -check of the area. He outlined the areas that Were built -out and those that were vacant land. He (Koules) also pointed out to the commission that there should be no pre- judgment of any vacant pieces of land that might be before them in the future for consideration. After lengthy discussion, CDD Koules noted that the general plan is currently being updated by consultants retained by the city and that the state mandates that zoning be brought into compliance with the general plan. He further noted that any such actions would have to be advertised for public hearings and the commission should indicate their concerns so that at the time of the general plan update all the land within the city that is designated residential high density be reviewed at that time. On motion by Commissioner Burch, seconded by Commissioner Prouty recommending that at the time of the general plan review, the residential high density areas that exists in the city be reviewed and any changes be taken at that time. Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Echlin, Burch, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioner Kisling. ABSTAIN: None. Chairman Ring announced that the next meeting would be November 19, 1991. There being no further items 'for discussion, the meeting adjourned at 7 :37 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Cherr ay PC Se retaf BEAUMONT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 19, 1991 Meeting called to Order at 7 :00 p.m. Roll Call: Commissioners Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. Commissioners Echlin and Burch were absent. The Affidavit of Posting was read. The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag was observed. 1. The Minutes for the Special meeting of the Planning Commission of October 8, 1991, were approved as submitted. 2. Oral Communication: None. 3. Director's Report: COD Koules distributed the Project Status sheet to the commission identifying approved, pipeline and pending projects as of November 1991. He (Koules) reminded the commission that next Monday, November 25, 1991, the City Council would be swearing in the new Council members and electing a mayor and Mayor Pro Tem. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING: 4. 87- TM -8(R) (Tract 23151), a revision of a previously approved lot subdivision on 63.01 acres in order to allow a lot redesign of the easterly arm of the project, located at 14th and Palm Avenue. Applicant, WDS Development. CDD Koules informed the commission this was a project approved back in 1987 with over 200 lots, 75 of which have been built out. After several continuances and negotiations with the school district, the applicant (see attached letter) requested withdrawal of his application. On motion by Commission Kisling, seconded by Commissioner Prouty to accept the letter of withdrawal from WDS Development, Tentative Map 87- TM -B(R). Motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioners Echlin and Burch. ABSTAIN: None. PUBLIC HEARING: 5. 89- CUP -2, Amend. B. and 89- ND -14, one year extension of time for a proposal to construct a 4,100 sq. ft. manufacturing building addition to an existing 21,000 sq. ft. -.- - - t-_ _t.. -_ -- /. — :-- ----I ..v -o-A i- nnno +rPon +i e%n r%f a Minutes of PC meeting November 19, 1991 Page 2 Mr. Steve Morgan, representative from Precision Stamping, spoke from the audience stating they do want to be able to proceed with their project; however, at this point and time the business climate is not worthy of stretching themselves and thus the reason for requesting a one year extension. There being no one else to speak, Chairman Ring then closed the public hearing at 7 :07 p.m., turning the matter back to the commission. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Kisling approving a one (1) year extension for Conditional Use Permit 89- CUP-2. motion carried unanimously with the following roll call vote: AYES: Commissioners Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioners Echlin and Burch. ABSTAIN: None. On motion by Commissioner Prouty, seconded by Commissioner Kisling to cancel the Planning Commission meeting for December 1991 and that the next meeting be held January 21, 1992. AYES: Commissioners Kisling, Prouty and Chairman Ring. NOES: None. ABSENT: Commissioners Echlin and Burch. ABSTAIN: None. At the direction of the Planning Commission, COD Koules will prepare a staff report for the Planning Commission Meeting of January 21, 1992 which will consider that Landscape requirements be done before actual project developments on specific projects. There being no further items for discussion, the meeting adjourned at 7:11 p.m. Respectfully submitted, fherrayl Se reta