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09.20.2023 Park Commission Meeting Packet
POSTED AT CITY HALL: September 15, 2023 PARK COMMISSION AGENDA WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 2023 7:00 P.M. CITY HALL (2052 County Road 24) 1. Call to Order 2. Changes to Agenda 3. Approval of Draft Park Commission Minutes a. Minutes of the July 20, 2023 Regular Park Commission Meeting 4. Update from City Council Proceedings 5. Representative at next City Council Meeting 6. Staff Report 7. Hunter Lions Park – Pickleball Sound Mitigation 8. Adjourn CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION DRAFT Meeting Minutes July 20, 2023 Page 1 of 6 The Park Commission of Medina, Minnesota met in regular session on July 19, 2023 at 7:00 p.m. 1 2 Chairperson Mary Morrison presided. 3 4 1. CALL TO ORDER 5 6 Chairperson Morrison called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. 7 8 Present: Park Commissioners Mary Morrison, Terry Sharp, Nila Norman, Steve Webster and 9 Tom Mayer. Youth Park Commissioners June Ney and Grace Illingworth. 10 11 Absent: Park Commissioners Troy Hutchinson and Will Gunter. 12 13 Also Present: Public Works Director Steve Scherer, Public Works Administrative Assistant Lisa 14 DeMars, Planning Director Dusty Finke and City Council Member and Liaison to the Park 15 Commission Joe Cavanaugh. 16 17 2. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA 18 19 Cavanaugh asked for a few minutes at the end of the meeting so his kids could present an idea 20 for a Farmers Market and get initial feedback from the Park Commission. The Park Commission 21 agreed to hear the informal presentation. 22 23 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 24 25 A. Approval of the June 21, 2023 Regular Park Commission Meeting Minutes. 26 27 Motion made by Sharp, seconded by Norman, to approve the June 21, 2023 Park Commission 28 meeting minutes as presented. 29 30 4. CITY COUNCIL UPDATE 31 32 Cavanaugh provided an update on recent City Council actions. There were no questions. 33 34 5. REPRESENTATIVE AT NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING 35 36 Morrison noted upcoming council meetings to be held on August 2 and 15 and September 5 and 37 19; and that Mayer is on the roster for August and Morrison is on the roster for September. 38 CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION DRAFT Meeting Minutes July 20, 2023 Page 2 of 6 Morrison also noted that Scherer will continue to provide meeting updates if any Commissioner 1 is unable to attend or trade dates. 2 3 6. STAFF REPORT 4 5 DeMars presented the staff report. She noted that Facebook activity indicates residents near 6 Lakeshore Park plan to utilize the park for a Night to Unite event on August 1. There were no 7 questions. 8 9 a. Hunter Lions Park – discuss pickleball court feedback 10 11 Scherer noted comments from residents were heard at the last two City Council meetings, 12 leading the Council to direct Staff to temporarily adjust court hours to 8:00a.m. to 8:00p.m., and 13 research options to minimize pickleball sound effects, and screening for the courts at Hunter 14 Lions Park, to allow the Park Commission time to review noise reduction options and provide a 15 recommendation to Council. 16 17 DeMars stated her research included muted balls and paddles, sound curtains, and tree coverage. 18 She said balls and paddles are generally not thought to sufficiently solve sound problems, these 19 recommendations appear to be geared towards persons playing on the court vs. persons residing 20 nearby or outside of the courts. 21 22 Scherer presented a quote for a windscreen and one for a sound curtain, options that could be 23 draped on the fence. Due to warranty and manufacturer recommendation, additional support 24 posts would need to be installed. 25 26 Scherer stated recommended tree cover that might help with noise mitigation are Spruce or 27 Arborvitae, staggered in two rows, and space 15’ to 20’ apart. 28 29 DeMars commented that other options to reduce noise include reduced court hours, limiting days 30 of use, closing the courts, or moving the courts to another park. DeMars noted complaints are 31 originating from three households, and the latest count in favor of the courts is over thirty. She 32 said calls in support of the courts are noted when residents call in to ask for seating, or 33 designated time slots for more experienced players, or restrooms closer to the courts, or seating 34 outside of the courts, etc. DeMars referred to the numerous calls she received, prior to the courts 35 opening, from residents who wanted the courts opened up, so anticipates the reduced hours, as 36 posted this afternoon, may lead to another influx of call-ins. 37 38 Morrison opened the floor for Commissioner comments. 39 CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION DRAFT Meeting Minutes July 20, 2023 Page 3 of 6 Mayer stated he finds it difficult to make a recommendation without efficacy because we don’t 1 know if any of the presented options will work to reduce noise complaints. Mayer said a 2 professional sound assessment is critical and until we know what the decibel change is, and what 3 the actual activity of sound is, he is reluctant to believe the sounds can be mitigated. 4 5 Sharp echoed Mayer’s comments and recommended to wait until we have professional results 6 and know what we are dealing with. 7 8 Webster said he understands noise associated with living next to a park because his property line 9 is 100 feet from, and directly across from, the tennis/pickleball court at the Park at Fields of 10 Medina. Webster said his family bought the house knowing there would be park noise, their 11 family enjoys being in such close proximity, and the noise of the park and courts does not affect 12 his situation. Webster also supports waiting for professional sound test before adjustments, 13 beyond reducing the court hours, are made. 14 15 Norman thanked Staff for the quick research and stated she found listening to the comments in 16 the City Council meeting beneficial. Norman noted people work out at different times so 17 limiting specific amenities, and what precedence it could establish, is concerning, because 18 actions can create chain reactions, going forward. Norman stated she listened to the complaints 19 from the residents who spoke at the council meeting last night and the takeaway is they seem to 20 only want the courts moved. Norman explained she is empathetic to annoying noises but 21 spending taxpayer dollars to mitigate the complaints of a few neighbors, especially after listening 22 to the other residents who spoke, feels lopsided without a study. Norman supports planting trees, 23 however, would first like to understand if this would enhance or channel more sound towards the 24 backyards. Norman said she is hesitant to make a hurried recommendation to council when we 25 don’t know if it will resolve the problem for the people complaining. Norman noted that Hunter 26 Lions Park was historically seldom utilized, so enjoys knowing residents are gathering and 27 meeting new neighbors. 28 29 Ney noted she bought a pickleball set but on the day she and her Mom went to the park the 30 courts were in use, so they haven’t played at Hunter yet. She said it was nice to see different age 31 groups playing, including teenagers. Ney commented her busy lifestyle doesn’t allow her time to 32 play regularly, thus is opposed to a requirement that would force her to buy balls or racquets that 33 might be more expensive. 34 35 Illingworth asked if a sound study were to determine the noise level is within the standards, will 36 it bring an end to the discussion, or will we continue to look for solutions. 37 38 CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION DRAFT Meeting Minutes July 20, 2023 Page 4 of 6 Morrison said she feels we would want to make a decision with the knowledge of knowing if we 1 are legally compliant, and what options will yield the best solution. She commented the park 2 was a great resource for its neighbors who have complaints in the sense it was quiet and didn’t 3 impact their lives very much, but this should not stop the Commission and Staff from treating the 4 renovations as a successful addition to our activities. Morrison noted if we are not in violation of 5 noise standards then we can pursue if there are things that make sense from a financial standpoint 6 that actually would have an impact. In her view we should know that, prior to spending money, 7 that may provide visual security but doesn’t really do anything to mitigate the complaints. 8 Morrison is hesitant to direct Staff to do any further research, knowing they are overloaded with 9 activities, or to recommend solutions, until we have the data from an expert. Morrison said noise 10 mitigation gets complex quickly, and given where the people are located, how are we going to 11 determine, for this specific case, whether any of the noise reduction ideas will work. 12 13 Cavanaugh encouraged the Park Commission to consider recommending sound reduction options 14 ahead of the noise testing, which could take some time. 15 16 Morrison thanked Staff for the presented options, which need more evaluation. She said she just 17 doesn’t see where we’re in a position to make a more specific recommendation on a particular 18 mitigation strategy right now because we don’t know enough to want to push that if this is all a 19 matter of annoyance. 20 21 Motion made by Morrison, seconded by Sharp, to table any further efforts at sound mitigation 22 until we get a sound study and know what the decibels are, and whether we are in compliance 23 with state law and our own regulations, and whatever light the expert can shed on what 24 mitigation efforts might be effective, specifically to the people who feel most affected by the 25 noise. 26 27 b. Fitness Court – grant opportunity presentation 28 29 DeMars shared a short video explaining a BCBS grant opportunity and stated she and Scherer 30 met with the group and learned a $50,000 grant opportunity is available but would require a 31 recipient match of somewhere between $125,000 and $150,000. 32 33 Webster noted similar grants are available through AARP. 34 35 Generally speaking, the Park Commission liked the concept, but agreed the recipient contribution 36 requirement is far too expensive to consider with our existing funds. 37 38 39 CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION DRAFT Meeting Minutes July 20, 2023 Page 5 of 6 Farmers Market – Informal Discussion 1 2 Katya and Patrick Cavanaugh asked the Park Commission for informal feedback on an idea to 3 host a farmers market in Uptown Hamel. 4 5 Katya Cavanaugh said she and her brother are here to propose an idea for a farmers market, 6 which would be a great addition to Medina, because it could help create a better sense of 7 community here and it would support local farmers and artisans, and it could help boost tourism 8 in Medina as well as support local businesses. Katya said they discussed Hamel Road as an 9 location to hold a farmers market because art fairs have been held there in the past. She said they 10 talked to some people that grow fruits and vegetables close to the Fields of Medina Park, and 11 they are interested in participating in something like this. She asked the Park Commission for 12 their thoughts on this idea. 13 14 Mayer asked what regulations are necessary for this type of event. 15 16 Morrison said we would need to know whether there are any City regulations. She said she 17 believes there is a regional association of farmers markets that have rules, but is not sure if they 18 are voluntary, such as selling items grown within a geographic area. 19 20 Webster asked if they had thought about participating in the flea market at the Medina 21 Entertainment Center. 22 23 Joe Cavanaugh said this event only occurred on Sunday. 24 25 Scherer noted he has been to the flea market a few times this year and has recently seen vendors 26 selling vegetables. 27 28 Sharp said it is a great idea and sounds like a great way to bring people to Uptown. 29 30 Norman thanked the Cavanaugh’s for thinking about this awesome idea and volunteered to help. 31 She noted her love of farmers markets and that there is not one close by, so we should try it. 32 33 Illingworth stated she knows a lot of people her age that would be interested in participating or 34 visiting the event, and that it is a very great idea. 35 36 Katya Cavanaugh said they welcome anyone interested in helping out. 37 38 CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION DRAFT Meeting Minutes July 20, 2023 Page 6 of 6 Joe Cavanaugh thanked the Park Commission for listening to the idea and will help the kids put 1 together a proposal to bring back to the Park Commission. 2 3 7. ADJOURN 4 5 Motion made by Mayer, seconded by Sharp, to adjourn the meeting. 6 7 The meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m. Minutes prepared by Lisa De Mars. 8 1 MEMORANDUM To: Medina Park Commission From: Lisa DeMars, Public Works Assistant Date: September 15, 2023 Meeting: September 20, 2023 Subject: Park Commission Meeting Report 2. Changes to Agenda If any Park Commissioner wishes to add an item to the agenda after the agenda has already been posted, the agenda item must be proposed at this point in the meeting. The Park Commission must agree to add the item by motion. No attachments for this item. 4. Update from City Council Proceedings This is a reoccurring agenda item to have the City Council Liaison to the Park Commission give an update at each meeting on what is happening at the Council level. City Council member Joseph Cavanaugh has been appointed as the Liaison to the Park Commission for 2023. No attachments for this item. 5. Representative at next City Council Meeting Upcoming council meetings will be held on October 3 and 17 and November 8 and 21. Terry Sharp is on the roster for October, Nila Norman is on the roster for November. Steve Scherer will continue to provide meeting updates if you are unable to attend or trade dates with another Park Commissioner. No attachments for this item. 7. Hunter Lions Park – Pickleball Sound Mitigation Planning Director Dusty Finke’s report explains results from the pickleball sound study, and mitigation options the Park Commission could consider recommending to Council. See attached report. Recommended Action: Provide recommendation on potential sound mitigation actions. Staff Report Upcoming Events. none Park Activity Update. Rainwater Nature Area: Friends of the Park Volunteer, Mary Shimshock transplants perennials from her garden and shared the attached photo1. Hamel Legion Park: Grandstand construction began late August and will be completed by the end of September. The tennis courts and basketball court were resurfaced in late August. Hunter Lions Park: the ballfield was sprayed for broadleaf, reseeded, and temporary irrigation cannons are in place. The Park at Fields of Medina: Medina resident Kristen Renner submitted an inquiry asking the Park Commission to consider adding a hockey rink on the soccer field or on top of the tennis court. 2 Alchemy Soccer canceled practices because of rough terrain, similar to the open space at Maple Park, their security deposit was refunded. Lakeshore Park: decks with railings2 and mulch pathways have been constructed, benches are on order, kayak rack installation is in process, and I found an eagle scout candidate to take on building the pavilion in 2024. Shawnee Woods: the sign arrived for the wooded area located in the Reserve neighborhood and will be installed by Public Works. General Items. This is a reoccurring agenda item for Park Commissioners or Staff to give a verbal update on any other general park items. Staff representation at the September 20 Park Commission meeting will be Planning Director Dusty Finke and Public Works Administrative Assistant Lisa DeMars. 1 2 Hunter Lions Park Page 1 of 4 September 20, 2023 Pickleball Courts Park Commission Meeting TO: Park Commission FROM: Dusty Finke, Planning Director DATE: September 14, 2023 MEETING: September 20, 2023 SUBJECT: Hunter Lions Park – Pickleball Courts Background The pickleball courts at Hunter Lions Park have been highly utilized since being completed this spring. As discussed at the June 21 and July 19 meetings several neighbors to the east of Hunter Drive have raised concerns related to the noise resulting from the pickleball play. Emails received by Council members on this matter are attached for reference. Additional discussion occurred at the July 5 and July 18 City Council meeting. The City Council temporarily enacted more restrictive hours for the courts in Hunter Lions Park than apply generally in parks as the matter was studied further. The City Council also authorized a study to collect data on the sound to compare with regulatory requirements. Sound Report The summary of the sound data collection is attached for reference. Tony Baxter, the engineer who completed the work, will be available at the September 20 meeting to answer questions from members of the Park Commission. The report also includes general information about sound measurements and noise regulations that is helpful for context. The conclusion of the data was that sound generated from pickleball activity does not exceed the maximum standards established by the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA) as measured at the edge of the closest residential property to the east. Although the pickleball sound measurements do not appear to exceed the maximum standards, it is important to note that the MPCA rules state that “these standards do not, by themselves, identify the limiting levels of impulsive noise needed for the preservation of public health and welfare.” Mr. Baxter states that the sound of a paddle striking a pickleball can be described as an impulsive noise. MPCA rules do not provide specific alternative standards for impulsive noise. Although the sound generated by pickleball activity does not exceed specific standards set forth in MPCA rules, staff believes it is nevertheless reasonable to consider actions to reduce the impact of pickleball noise on surrounding property. MEMORANDUM Hunter Lions Park Page 2 of 4 September 20, 2023 Pickleball Courts Park Commission Meeting Options Standard hours, no mitigation The City could allow activities under standard park hours (sunrise-sunset) without sound mitigation measures. Tree Planting The Hunter Lions Park Master Plan included proposed tree planting after installation of the recreational amenities. The tree planting does not result in projected sound mitigation but would provide screening. Staff would recommend 11 coniferous trees placed in two staggered rows at a cost of $5500. Renovate or Construct new Pickleball Courts at Hamel Legion Park Neighboring property owners have suggested converting one of the tennis courts in Hamel Legion Park to four pickleball courts and converting the pickleball courts in Hunter Lions Park to a tennis court. Alternatively, pickleball courts could be constructed in Hamel Legion Park near the existing court. The existing courts in Hamel Legion Park are approximately 500 feet from the nearest residential homes, while the pickleball courts in Hunter Lions Park are approximately 250 feet. An increase of distance from 250 feet to 500 feet results in projected reduction of approximately 6 dB, assuming other variables are fixed. Staff does not have cost estimates for the conversions at this time, but can prepare if desired by Park Commission or City Council. The conversion of the existing pickleball courts to a tennis court is more difficult because the concrete for all the nets and fences would need to be removed and patched and several of these patches would be located throughout the middle of the court. There is a higher chance of heaving and cracking at these patches unless the court were completely repaved. Hunter Lions Park Page 3 of 4 September 20, 2023 Pickleball Courts Park Commission Meeting The cost of paving an entire tennis court is approximately $22,000, with an additional $6,500 for coating and paint. Staff assumes the conversion would be possible without repaving the entire court, at a lower cost, but also at the risk of poorer surface. Re-coating would be required and some cost to install salvaged and re-used nets. The costs of converting a tennis court would be fence and net install (assuming salvage and reuse) plus coating/painting ($6500). Adding a 10’ tall fence between the tennis and pickleball would likely be an additional $15,000. The Park Commission and City Council have discussed the potential of constructing additional pickleball courts in the City. Additional courts could also be constructed while maintaining the courts at Hunter Lions Park to increase the overall number of courts in the City. Restrict Days/Hours of Operation Beginning on July 19, the City temporarily set hours for the courts at 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Compliance with the closing hours was poor, which led to calls to Medina Police on many evenings as shown by the call summary to the right. Compliance with the opening hours appeared to be better. Complaints related to after hour play stopped at the end of August, not because of improved compliance, but instead because of earlier sunsets. Experience from this summer suggests that enforcing closing hours will likely be necessary. Automatic locking gates which would unlock in the morning could be installed, but the closing hours would likely still commonly require some sort of staff activity or additional technology equipment to enforce. Estimated cost for automatic locking gates is approximately $10,000 for the pickleball gates and an additional $8,000 if the tennis gates were to be included. Staff intends to continue review about whether the locks would best address compliance with court hours. Install Sound Barrier There are various barriers on the market intended to be hung upon the fence to reduce sound from a source. The City’s sound consultant indicated that based on their review of available products, a 10 dB reduction in sound could be anticipated. The City has received an estimate of approximately $20,000 for the center fence. Some portion of the northern and southern fences may also need to be installed Title Reported Date Time Assist 7/1/2023 1711 Disturbance 7/2/2023 1201 Disturbance 7/11/2023 1624 Disturbance 7/11/2023 1624 Disturbance 7/13/2023 1404 Loud Music 7/17/2023 1513 After Hours 7/19/2023 2038 After Hours 7/20/2023 0748 Disturbance 7/20/2023 2004 Disturbance 7/21/2023 0704 After Hours 7/23/2023 2016 After Hours 7/28/2023 2023 After Hours 7/29/2023 2101 After Hours 7/30/2023 2032 After Hours 8/1/2023 2009 Assist 8/3/2023 0752 After Hours 8/4/2023 2003 After Hours 8/5/2023 2026 After Hours 8/6/2023 2003 After Hours 8/8/2023 2004 After Hours 8/9/2023 2006 After Hours 8/9/2023 2036 Disturbance 8/10/2023 2002 After Hours 8/12/2023 2003 Vandalism 8/14/2023 1702 After Hours 8/14/2023 2007 After Hours 8/16/2023 2001 After Hours 8/18/2023 2000 After Hours 8/21/2023 2002 Hunter Lions Park Page 4 of 4 September 20, 2023 Pickleball Courts Park Commission Meeting to realize the full sound reduction benefit to the east. The north and south fence are each approximately ½ the length of the center fence. Staff Recommendation For continued use of the pickleball courts at Hunter Lions Park, staff would recommend the following a mitigation actions. 1) Install acoustical sound barrier on eastern pickleball fence and any portion of the north and south fence necessary to provide sufficient mitigation to the east. 2) Set hours for courts at NE corner of Hunter Lions Park to 8 a.m.-Sunset daily and review need for lockable gates to improve compliance. Staff would also recommend tree planting in the park, primarily for aesthetic purposes. Attachments 1. Sound data summary 2. 6/21/2023 Park Commission minutes 3. 7/5/2023 City Council minutes 4. 7/18/2023 City Council minutes 5. Emails September 12, 2023 Mr. Scott Johnson City of Medina 2052 County Road 24 Medina, MN 55340 Subject: Summary of Results Pickleball Noise Monitoring Hunter Lions Park – Medina, Minnesota Dear Mr. Johnson: We understand the City of Medina recently installed four new pickleball courts at Hunter Lions Park and nearby residential neighbors have complained about noise. Figure 1 is an aerial image showing the approximate location of the pickleball courts. ESI Engineering was retained to measure pickleball noise and compare the results with State of Minnesota noise limit requirements. This letter is a summary of noise monitoring performed in August 2023. Figure 1 – Aerial image showing Hunter Lions Park, the pickleball courts (overlay) and nearby residential properties. Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 2 Noise Requirements The State of Minnesota Rule 7030: Noise Pollution, enforced by the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency (MPCA), has requirements for limiting noise levels, or standards, evaluated at the location of the person who hears the noise. The levels are calculated statistical values that quantify noise over a period of time, the minimum being one hour. Table 1 shows the Rule 7030 L10 and L50 noise standards (in dBA1) per noise area classification (NAC) of the receiving land use. L10 is the sound level that is exceeded 10% of the time during a measurement period. L50 is the sound level that is exceeded 50% of the time during a measurement period. NAC 1 land use is residential and recreational, NAC 2 is commercial, and NAC 3 is industrial. Table 1 – Minnesota Noise Standards The daytime noise standards for residential land use (NAC 1) are an L10 level of 65 dBA and an L50 level of 60 dBA. However, the noise rule says that “these standards do not, by themselves, identify the limiting levels of impulsive noise needed for the preservation of public health and welfare.” Impulsive noise is defined in the rules to be a sound pressure peak with either a rise time of less than 200 milliseconds or a duration of less than 200 milliseconds. By this definition and the measurement data, pickleball noise is impulsive noise. The State of Minnesota does not have a separate noise standard for impulsive noise. Therefore, as requested by the City of Medina, the pickleball noise monitoring results in this letter are compared with the daytime L10 and L50 standards in Table 1, knowing that other factors may need to be considered by the City in evaluating the impact of the pickleball noise on the residential receivers. The noise rules require that noise monitoring of the statistical L10 and L50 levels be conducted for at least one hour and that the sound level meter use “A” weighting and Fast response characteristics. The State of Minnesota Rule 7030 is included for reference as Attachment A. Additional information can be found in Minnesota Pollution Control Agency document A Guide to Noise Control in Minnesota. 1 dBA is the abbreviation for an A-weighted decibel measurement. A-weighting is a filtered decibel level that reflects the human ear response to sounds of a low pressure level. L10 L50 L10 L50 1 Residential 65 dBA 60 dBA 55 dBA 50 dBA 2 Commercial 70 dBA 65 dBA 70 dBA 65 dBA 3 Industrial 80 dBA 75 dBA 80 dBA 75 dBA Noise Area Classification Receiver Type Daytime (7AM - 10PM)Nighttime (10PM - 7AM) Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 3 Noise Background Information Noise levels are commonly evaluated with a sound level meter, which measures pressure variations in air. Sound level amplitudes are displayed in a decibel (dB) unit, which is a logarithmic ratio of the measured pressure variation to 20 Pa (considered the lowest pressure variation a healthy human ear can detect). On the decibel scale, an increase of 6 dB represents a doubling of the sound pressure, however, an increase of 10 dB is necessary before the human ear perceives the sound level to be twice as loud. The following describe subjective impressions of changes in sound levels: 1 to 3 dB Change = Just Noticeable Difference 5 dB Change = Noticeable Difference 10 dB Change = Twice or Half As Loud The perceived loudness of sound changes with frequency. A young, healthy human ear can sense pressure variations between 20 Hz and 20,000 Hz. The ear is most sensitive to sounds between 2,000 Hz and 5,000 Hz and is less sensitive to low frequencies and high frequencies. To simulate the response of the human ear, sound level meters can filter the low and high frequencies of the measured pressure variations. One of the common filters is called an A-weighted filter. Sound levels that have been A-weighted are designated with the unit dBA. Measured sound levels can be quantified with a single value, overall dB or dBA level. When more information is needed, sound levels can be displayed in frequency bands called octave bands. Multiple noise sources add logarithmically. Adding two 50 dBA sources will be 53 dBA (50 dBA + 50 dBA = 53 dBA) and three 50 dBA sources equal 54.8 dBA. Logarithmic addition of sources that are more than 10 dBA different result in no increase from the higher level (e.g., 50 dBA + 40 dBA = 50 dBA). Sound propagation through the atmosphere can be complicated. However, within 300’ of a source, atmospheric effects like wind and temperature inversion can be ignored. Generally, sound pressure waves travel away from a point source spherically and the reduction in level is 6 dB with every doubling of distance. Consideration needs to be given to reflections from large flat surfaces and the barrier effect caused by walls, berms or buildings. Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 4 Site Conditions An aerial image of the Hunters Lions Park area with an overlayed drawing of the new park is shown in Figure 2. The center of the four pickleball courts is approximately 260’ west of the nearest home. There is also one new tennis court adjacent to the pickleball courts. We understand that use of the tennis and pickleball courts is limited to 8:00 AM to 8:00 PM. Hunter Drive, also on the east side of the park, has a 40 mph speed limit. Noise was monitored for multiple days at Location A in Figure 2. This location was chosen because it was in the direction of the nearest home. Figure 3 is a photograph of the microphone 13’ above the ground at Location A. We recognized that traffic on Hunter Drive would add to the measured noise levels, however that was true at all other locations too, although at lower levels. Adjusting for traffic noise was going to be necessary regardless of the measurement location. In our opinion, pickleball noise at locations farther to the north or south from Location A would be similar to or lower than the noise at Location A. To confirm this, additional measurements were made at Locations 1 through 5 shown in Figure 2. Although not discussed here, noise from pickleball activities at Location 1 were similar to the other four locations. Figure 4 shows a sketch of the relative elevation of the courts, the microphone at Location A and the nearest home. The microphone height of 13’ was in direct line of sight of the courts, similar to the sightline of people of the decks of the homes. Although there would normally be reduction in noise due to the increased distance from the microphone to the deck, we suspect that reflections from the house increased noise levels equally. It is conservative to assume that the pickleball noise levels at homes to the east of the courts are the same as at Location A. Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 5 1007' 1003' 1007' 1004' 1005' 1005' 1018' 1007' 1008' 3 2 1 4 5 260' 180' A Fig u r e 2 – Ae r i a l i m a g e s h o w i n g c o u r t s a n d m e a s u r e m e n t l o c a t i o n s . Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 6 Figure 3 – Photo showing the microphone at Location A. Figure 4 – Sketch showing the elevation of the microphone at Location A relative to the pickleball courts and the nearest home. 260' 180' 13'5' 11'16' 1003'1005' 1007' ß Microphone Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 7 Noise Monitoring Results The noise monitoring equipment was installed at Location A at 1:00 PM on Thursday, August 10, 2023 and removed at 11:00 AM on Wednesday, August 16, 2023. The equipment setup and measurement methodology following the procedures defined in the State noise rules and in guidelines provided by the MPCA. Observations and other noise measurements were made on the morning of Friday, August 11th between 8:00 AM and 10:00 AM and Sunday, August 13th between 8:00 AM and 10:00 AM. The monitoring system logged noise levels every one second. Each day there were 86,400 seconds measured, and in each second, 45 separate values were saved. The hourly L10 and L50 statistical levels are normally calculated using the Fast response levels every second, however because these levels may have missed the highest Fast response pickleball noise, the data was reevaluated using the Fast Max values, which resulted in higher L10 and L50 levels. Both the Fast and the Fast Max L10 and L50 levels are presented in the summary table. In my opinion, the higher Fast Max levels should be compared to the State daytime standards. The monitoring equipment made sound recordings at the beginning of every hour. Although these recordings helped determine if the pickleball courts were in use, it was not possible to know how many players were on the courts. The monitoring system measurement data at Location A is provided in Attachment B. Pickleball noise was present in recordings and evident in the data, characterized by short duration increases in the noise level. Hourly L10 and L50 statistical results for the seven days of noise monitoring at Location A are summarized in tables in Attachment C. The daytime hours from 7:00 AM to 10:00 PM are highlighted yellow. The hourly values in red font in the tables exceeded the State noise standards. Some of the hours that exceeded were during times the courts were open for use and some hours were when the courts were not being used. The loudest noise sources at Location A were vehicular traffic and lawn mowing. Traffic noise was easily identified as the level slowly increased as the vehicle approached and then slowly decreased as it moved farther from Location A. Observations and additional noise measurements were made on Sunday, August 13, 2023 from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM. All four pickleball courts and the tennis court were being used during this period. The L10 and L50 hourly levels for Sunday are shown in Table 2. The hourly levels from 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM did not exceed the State standards. Figure 5 shows the one second Fast Max noise levels from 7:00 AM to 10:30 AM. The highest levels around 70 dBA were from passing vehicles. There was a noticeable increase in noise at 8:00 AM which appeared to be from the start of pickleball activities. Noise after 8:00 AM had more high frequency content and shorter duration events. Figure 6 shows the noise from 7:50 AM to 8:20 AM. The passing vehicles were easily identified in this data. The pickleball noise was mainly the short duration events in the 54 dBA to 62 dBA range. Most of the pickleball noise was from the ball and paddle impact, however there was also talking and occasional shouting. Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 8 Table 2 – Noise Monitoring Results – Sunday, August 13, 2023 To estimate noise levels at that were only from the pickleball activities, the Location A data between 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM on Sunday, August 13, 2023 was edited to remove noise from passing vehicles. The noise from passing vehicles was identified and removed from the 7,200 second Fast Max data set for the period and the L10 and L50 statistics were calculated using the remaining 5,990 samples. This period was selected because all four pickleball courts and the tennis court were being used. The L10 and L50 results with and without traffic noise are shown in the graphs of Figure 7. The L10 levels were 62 dBA with traffic and 57 dBA without traffic. The L10 State requirement was 65 dBA. The L50 level was 53 dBA with traffic and 51 dBA without, and the State requirement was 60 dBA. In addition to using the LA Fast Max data to calculate the statistical L10 and L50 hourly levels, the LA Impulse Max data was also used. Although the Impulse Max time weighting measurement captures the amplitude of the impulsive noise more accurately , statistical results will be high because of the long decay time. The L10 levels using the Impulse Max data were 66 dBA with traffic and 63 dBA without traffic, and the State requirement was 65 dBA. The L50 level was 58 dBA with traffic and 57 dBA without, and the State requirement was 60 dBA. LAfast L Afast Max MPCA LAfast L Afast Max MPCA Date Hour L10, dBA L10, dBA L10 Limit L50, dBA L50, dBA L50 Limit 12:00:00 AM 49 55 47 50 1:00 AM 47 55 46 50 2:00:00 AM 46 55 45 50 3:00:00 AM 55 55 45 50 4:00:00 AM 45 55 44 50 5:00:00 AM 45 55 44 50 6:00:00 AM 47 48 55 42 43 50 7:00:00 AM 51 53 65 42 43 60 8:00:00 AM 57 60 65 47 52 60 9:00:00 AM 60 63 65 49 54 60 10:00:00 AM 62 64 65 48 51 60 11:00:00 AM 64 66 65 49 51 60 12:00:00 PM 62 64 65 47 50 60 1:00:00 PM 63 65 65 50 55 60 2:00:00 PM 62 65 51 60 3:00:00 PM 64 65 50 60 4:00:00 PM 64 65 46 60 5:00:00 PM 60 65 46 60 6:00:00 PM 63 65 51 60 7:00:00 PM 60 65 46 60 8:00:00 PM 57 65 44 60 9:00:00 PM 50 65 47 60 10:00:00 PM 52 55 48 50 11:00:00 PM 55 55 51 50 Sunday, August 13, 2023 Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 9 Figure 5 – Noise data at Location A for Sunday, August 13, 2023 from 7:00 AM to 10:30 AM. Figure 6 – Noise data at Location A for Sunday, August 13, 2023 from 7:50 AM to 8:20 AM. Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 10 40455055606570 6:0 0 A M 7:0 0 A M 8:0 0 A M 9:0 0 A M 10 : 0 0 A M 11 : 0 0 A M 12 : 0 0 P M 1:0 0 P M Sound Pressure Level, dBA L1 0 -L A f a s t m a x Tr a f f i c Re m o v e d W i t h Tr a f f i c 2hr p e r i o d L1 0 r e q u i r e m e n t 40455055606570 6:0 0 A M 7:0 0 A M 8:0 0 A M 9:0 0 A M 10 : 0 0 A M 11 : 0 0 A M 12 : 0 0 P M 1:0 0 P M Sound Pressure Level, dBA L5 0 -L A f a s t m a x 2hr p e r i o d L5 0 r e q u i r e m e n t Tr a f f i c Re m o v e d W i t h Tr a f f i c Fig u r e 7 – 8 A M t o 1 0 A M S u n d a y A u g u s t 1 3 , 2 0 2 3 m o n i t o r i n g d a t a w i t h a n d w i t h o u t t r a f f i c no i s e r e m o v e d . 40455055606570758085 8:0 0 : 0 0 A M 8:0 6 : 0 0 A M 8:1 2 : 0 0 A M 8:1 8 : 0 0 A M 8:2 4 : 0 0 A M 8:3 0 : 0 0 A M 8:3 6 : 0 0 A M 8:4 2 : 0 0 A M 8:4 8 : 0 0 A M 8:5 4 : 0 0 A M 9:0 0 : 0 0 A M 9:0 6 : 0 0 A M 9:1 2 : 0 0 A M 9:1 8 : 0 0 A M 9:2 4 : 0 0 A M 9:3 0 : 0 0 A M 9:3 6 : 0 0 A M 9:4 2 : 0 0 A M 9:4 8 : 0 0 A M 9:5 4 : 0 0 A M 10 : 0 0 : 0 0 A M Sound Pressure Level, dBA LA F a s t M a x w i t h T r a f f i c LA F a s t M a x w i t h o u t T r a f f i c Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 11 Conclusions ESI Engineering was asked to monitor pickleball noise levels at Hunter Lions Park in Medina, Minnesota and compare the results with the State of Minnesota Noise Rule requirements. The State of Minnesota has requirements for noise levels evaluated at the location of the person who hears the noise. The levels are calculated statistical values that quantify noise over a period of time, the minimum being one hour. The daytime noise standards for residential land use are an L10 level of 65 dBA and an L50 level of 60 dBA. However, the noise rule says that “these standards do not, by themselves, identify the limiting levels of impulsive noise needed for the preservation of public health and welfare.” The State of Minnesota does not have a separate noise standard for impulsive noise, and pickleball noise meets the State’s definition of impulsive noise. Therefore, as requested by the City of Medina, the pickleball noise monitoring results in this letter were compared with the daytime L10 and L50 standards, knowing that other factors may need to be considered by the City in evaluating the impact of the pickleball noise on the residential receivers. The results of the monitoring included noise from traffic passing on Hunter Drive and other sources not related to pickleball. In our judgement, there was not a better location to measure the pickleball noise. The monitoring included all noise in the environment, such as traffic, birds, weather generated sounds, pickleball, tennis, lawn mowers, etc., and for some hours the L10 and L50 levels exceeded the State noise standards. There were also hours when the pickleball courts were in use with L10 and L50 results that did not exceed the standards. Pickleball noise was present in the recordings and evident in the data . The loudest noise sources at the monitoring location were vehicular traffic and lawn mowing. Noise from passing vehicles was removed from the data for a two-hour period between 8:00 AM and 10:00 AM on Sunday, August 13th when all four pickleball courts plus the tennis court were in use. The L10 and L50 results from this period were calculated with and without traffic noise. • The L10 level using the Fast Max data with traffic was 62 dBA and 57 dBA without traffic. The L10 State requirement was 65 dBA. The L50 level was 53 dBA with traffic and 51 dBA without, and the State requirement was 60 dBA. • The L10 levels using the Impulse Max data were 66 dBA with traffic and 63 dBA without traffic, and the State requirement was 65 dBA. The L50 level was 58 dBA with traffic and 57 dBA without, and the State requirement was 60 dBA. Although by this assessment, pickleball noise did not exceed the State standards, the noise rules state that “the standards do not, by themselves, identify the limiting levels of impulsive noise needed for the preservation of public health and welfare.” Pickleball noise meets the State’s definition of impulsive noise. Mr. Scott Johnson September 12, 2023 City of Medina Page 12 We appreciate the opportunity to serve the needs of the City of Medina and remain available to assist in the resolution of these and any other matters. Please let us know if you have any questions or need more information. Sincerely, Anthony J. Baxter, P.E. Principal ESI Engineering, Inc. Attachments Attachment A State of Minnesota, Rule 7030: Noise Pollution Control Hunter Lions Park Pickleball Noise Monitoring – September 12, 2023 1 CHAPTER 7030 MINNESOTA POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL GENERALLY 7030.0010 INCORPORATION BY REFERENCE. 7030.0020 DEFINITIONS. 7030.0030 NOISE CONTROL REQUIREMENT. 7030.0040 NOISE STANDARDS. 7030.0050 NOISE AREA CLASSIFICATION. 7030.0060 MEASUREMENT METHODOLOGY. 7030.0070 SOUND ATTENUATION MEASUREMENT METHODOLOGY. 7030.0080 VARIANCE. MOTOR VEHICLE NOISE LIMITS 7030.1000 DEFINITION. 7030.1010 PROHIBITIONS. 7030.1020 SCOPE. 7030.1030 EXCEPTIONS. 7030.1040 NOISE LIMIT FOR VEHICLES OVER 10,000 POUNDS. 7030.1050 MOTOR VEHICLE NOISE LIMITS FOR MOTORCYCLES. 7030.1060 NOISE LIMITS FOR OTHER VEHICLES. GENERALLY 7030.0010 INCORPORATION BY REFERENCE. For the purpose of chapter 7030,American National Standards Institute,Specification for Sound Level Meters,S1.4-1983 is incorporated by reference.This publication is available from the American National Standards Institute,1430 Broadway,New York,N.Y.10018 and can be found at:the offices of the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency,520 Lafayette Road North,St.Paul,Minnesota 55155;the Government Documents Section,Room 409,Wilson Library,University of Minnesota,309 19th Avenue South,Minneapolis,Minnesota 55454;and the State of Minnesota Law Library,25 Rev.Dr.Martin Luther King Jr.Blvd.,St.Paul,Minnesota 55155.This document is not subject to frequent change. The Federal Highway Administration publication,Sound Procedures for Measuring Highway Noise: Final Report,FHWA-DP-45-1R (August 1981)is incorporated by reference.This publication is available from the United States Department of Transportation,Federal Highway Administration,1000 North Globe Road,Arlington,Virginia 22201 and can be found at:the offices of the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency, 520 Lafayette Road North,St.Paul,Minnesota 55155;the Government Documents Section,Room 409, Wilson Library,University of Minnesota,309 19th Avenue South,Minneapolis,Minnesota 55454;and the State of Minnesota Law Library,25 Rev.Dr.Martin Luther King Jr.Blvd.,St.Paul,Minnesota 55155. This document is not subject to frequent change. Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 7030.0030 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 2 Statutory Authority:MS s 115.03;116.07 History:11 SR 43;18 SR 614;41 SR 763 Published Electronically:January 27,2017 7030.0020 DEFINITIONS. Subpart 1.Application.The terms used in this chapter have the meanings given them in this part. Subp.2.A-weighted."A-weighted"means a specific weighting of the sound pressure level for the purpose of determining the human response to sound.The specific weighting characteristics and tolerances are those given in American National Standards Institute S1.4-1983,section 5.1. Subp.3.Daytime."Daytime"means those hours from 7:00 a.m.to 10:00 p.m. Subp.4.dB(A)."dB(A)"means a unit of sound level expressed in decibels (dB)and A-weighted. Subp.5.Decibel."Decibel"means a unit of sound pressure level,abbreviated as dB. Subp.6.Impulsive noise."Impulsive noise"means either a single sound pressure peak (with either a rise time less than 200 milliseconds or total duration less than 200 milliseconds)or multiple sound pressure peaks (with either rise times less than 200 milliseconds or total duration less than 200 milliseconds)spaced at least by 200 millisecond pauses. Subp.7.L10."L10"means the sound level,expressed in dB(A),which is exceeded ten percent of the time for a one hour survey,as measured by test procedures approved by the commissioner. Subp.8.L50."L50"means the sound level,expressed in dB(A),which is exceeded 50 percent of the time for a one hour survey,as measured by test procedures approved by the commissioner. Subp.9.Municipality."Municipality"means a county;a city;a town;a regional planning and development commission established under Minnesota Statutes,chapter 473;the metropolitan council;or other governmental subdivision of the state responsible by law for controlling or restricting land use within its jurisdiction. Subp.10.Nighttime."Nighttime"means those hours from 10:00 p.m.to 7:00 a.m. Subp.11.Person."Person"means any human being,any municipality or other governmental or political subdivision or other public department or agency,any public or private corporation,any partnership, firm,association,or other organization,any receiver,trustee,assignee,agency,legal entity,other than a court of law,or any legal representative of any of the foregoing,but does not include the agency. Subp.12.Sound pressure level."Sound pressure level",in decibels,means 20 times the logarithm to the base 10 of the ratio of the pressure to the reference pressure.The reference pressure shall be 20 micronewtons per square meter. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:11 SR 43;L 1987 c 186 s 15;18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.0030 NOISE CONTROL REQUIREMENT. No person may violate the standards established in part 7030.0040,unless exempted by Minnesota Statutes,section 116.07,subdivision 2a.Any municipality having authority to regulate land use shall take Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 3 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 7030.0050 all reasonable measures within its jurisdiction to prevent the establishment of land use activities listed in noise area classification (NAC)1,2,or 3 in any location where the standards established in part 7030.0040 will be violated immediately upon establishment of the land use. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:11 SR 43;18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.0040 NOISE STANDARDS. Subpart 1.Scope.These standards describe the limiting levels of sound established on the basis of present knowledge for the preservation of public health and welfare.These standards are consistent with speech,sleep,annoyance,and hearing conservation requirements for receivers within areas grouped according to land activities by the noise area classification (NAC)system established in part 7030.0050. However,these standards do not,by themselves,identify the limiting levels of impulsive noise needed for the preservation of public health and welfare.Noise standards in subpart 2 apply to all sources. Subp.2.Noise standards. Noise Area Classification Daytime Nighttime L50 L10 L50 L10 1 60 65 50 55 2 65 70 65 70 3 75 80 75 80 Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:11 SR 43;18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.0050 NOISE AREA CLASSIFICATION. Subpart 1.Applicability.The noise area classification is based on the land use activity at the location of the receiver and determines the noise standards applicable to that land use activity unless an exception is applied under subpart 3. Subp.2.Noise area classifications.The noise area classifications and the activities included in each classification are listed below: Noise Area Classification Land Use Activities 1 Household Units (includes farm houses) Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 7030.0050 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 4 Hotels,motels,or other overnight lodging Mobile home parks or courts Other residential units Motion picture production Medical and other health services Correctional institutions Educational services Religious activities Cultural activities and nature exhibitions Entertainment assembly Camping and picnicking areas (designated) Resorts and group camps Other cultural,entertainment,and recreational activities. 2 Railroad terminals (passenger and freight) Rapid rail transit and street railway passenger terminals Bus passenger terminals (intercity and local) Other motor vehicle transportation Airport and flying field terminals (passenger and freight) Marine terminals (passenger and freight) Automobile parking Transportation services and arrangements Wholesale trade Retail trade,including restaurants and bars Finance,insurance,and real estate services Personal services Business,legal,or other professional services Repair services Contract construction services Governmental services (except correctional institutions) Miscellaneous services (except religious activities) Public assembly (except entertainment assembly and race tracks) Amusements (except fairgrounds and amusement parks) Recreational activities (except designated camping and picnicking areas) Parks Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 5 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 7030.0050 3 Manufacturing Transportation (except passenger terminals) Highway and street right-of-way Communication Utilities Race tracks Fairgrounds and amusement parks Agricultural and related activities Forestry activities and related services (including commercial forest land,timber production,and other related activities) Fishing activities and related services Mining activities and related services Other resource production and extraction All other activities not otherwise listed. 4 Undeveloped and unused land area Noncommercial forest development Water areas Vacant floor area Under construction Subp.3.Exceptions.The noise area classification for a land use may be changed in the following ways if the applicable conditions are met. A.The daytime standards for noise area classification 1 shall be applied to noise area classification 1 during the nighttime if the land use activity does not include overnight lodging. B.The standards for a building in a noise area classification 2 shall be applied to a building in a noise area classification 1 if the following conditions are met: (1)the building is constructed in such a way that the exterior to interior sound level attenuation is at least 30 dB(A); (2)the building has year-round climate control;and (3)the building has no areas or accommodations that are intended for outdoor activities. C.The standards for a building in a noise area classification 3 shall be applied to a building in a noise area classification 1 if the following conditions are met: (1)the building is constructed in such a way that the exterior to interior sound level attenuation is at least 40 dB(A); (2)the building has year-round climate control;and (3)the building has no areas or accommodations that are intended for outdoor activities. Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 7030.0060 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 6 D.The standards for a building in a noise area classification 3 shall be applied to a building in a noise area classification 2 if the following conditions are met: (1)the building is constructed in such a way that the exterior to interior sound level attenuation is at least 30 dB(A); (2)the building has year-round climate control;and (3)the building has no areas or accommodations that are intended for outdoor activities. Statutory Authority:MS s 115.03;116.07 History:11 SR 43;18 SR 614;41 SR 763 Published Electronically:January 27,2017 7030.0060 MEASUREMENT METHODOLOGY. Subpart 1.Measurement location.Measurement of sound must be made at or within the applicable NAC at the point of human activity which is nearest to the noise source.All measurements shall be made outdoors. Subp.2.Equipment specifications.All sound level measuring devices must meet Type O,I,II,or S specifications under American National Standards Institute S1.4-1983. Subp.3.Calibration.All sound level measuring devices must,at a minimum,be externally field calibrated before and after monitoring using a calibration device of known frequency and sound pressure level. Subp.4.Measurement procedures.The following procedures must be used to obtain representative sound level measurements: A.Measurements must be made at least three feet off the ground or surface and away from natural or artificial structures which would prevent an accurate measurement. B.Measurements must be made using the A-weighting and fast response characteristics of the sound measuring device as specified in American National Standards Institute S1.4-1983. C.Measurements must not be made in sustained winds or in precipitation which results in a difference of less than ten decibels between the background noise level and the noise source being measured. D.Measurements must be made using a microphone which is protected from ambient conditions which would prevent an accurate measurement. Subp.5.Data documentation.A summary sheet for all sound level measurements shall be completed and signed by the person making the measurements.At a minimum,the summary sheet shall include: A.date; B.time; C.location; D.noise source; E.wind speed and direction; F.temperature; Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 7 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 7030.0080 G.humidity; H.make,model,and serial number of measuring equipment; I.field calibration results; J.monitored levels;and K.site sketch indicating noise source,measurement location,directions,distances,and obstructions. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:11 SR 43;17 SR 1279;18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.0070 SOUND ATTENUATION MEASUREMENT METHODOLOGY. Subpart 1.Purpose.Sound level measurements made for assessing sound attenuation as specified in part 7030.0050,subpart 3,item B,C,or D,shall be made according to the requirements of this part. Subp.2.Equipment.The equipment shall meet the requirements specified in part 7030.0060, subpart 2. Subp.3.Calibration.The equipment must meet the calibration requirements specified in part 7030.0060,subpart 3. Subp.4.Measurement procedure.The measurement procedure described in FHWA-DP-45-1R, section 8 must be used for determination of the sound attenuation. Subp.5.Equivalent methods.Methods equivalent to those described in subpart 4 may be used provided they are approved by the commissioner of the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency.The commissioner shall approve an alternative method if the commissioner finds that the method will produce representative data and results which are as reliable as the methods specified in subpart 4. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:11 SR 43;L 1987 c 186 s 15;18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.0080 VARIANCE. If,upon written application of the responsible person,the agency finds that by reason of exceptional circumstances strict conformity with any provisions of any noise rule would cause undue hardship,would be unreasonable,impractical,or not feasible under the circumstances,the agency may permit a variance upon the conditions and within the time limitations as it may prescribe for the prevention,control,or abatement of noise pollution in harmony with the intent of the state and any applicable federal laws. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:11 SR 43;18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 7030.1010 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 8 MOTOR VEHICLE NOISE LIMITS 7030.1000 DEFINITION. "Motor vehicle"means any self-propelled vehicle not operated exclusively upon railroad tracks and any vehicle propelled or drawn by a self-propelled vehicle and includes vehicles known as trackless trolleys which are propelled by electric power obtained from overhead trolley wires but not operated upon rails, except snowmobiles. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.1010 PROHIBITIONS. Subpart 1.Operation of vehicle.No person shall operate either a motor vehicle or combination of vehicles of a type subject to registration pursuant to Minnesota Statutes,chapter 168 at any time or under any condition of grade,load,acceleration,or deceleration in such a manner as to exceed the noise limits contained herein for the category of motor vehicle and speed limits specified,when tested with a measurement procedure approved by the commissioner. Subp.2.Sale of vehicle.No person shall sell or offer for sale a new motor vehicle or combination of vehicles of a type subject to registration pursuant to Minnesota Statutes,chapter 168 which when maintained according to the manufacturer's specifications would exceed the noise limits contained herein for the category of motor vehicle and speed limits specified,when tested with a measurement procedure approved by the commissioner. Subp.3.Modification of vehicle.No person shall modify a motor vehicle or combination of vehicles of a type subject to registration pursuant to Minnesota Statutes,chapter 168 in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the vehicle,above the noise limits contained herein for the category of motor vehicle and speed limits specified,when tested with a measurement procedure approved by the commissioner.No person shall operate a motor vehicle so modified. Subp.4.Sale of parts.No person shall sell or offer for sale replacement or additional parts for a motor vehicle or combination of vehicles of a type subject to registration pursuant to Minnesota Statutes, chapter 168 which when installed in the vehicle will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the vehicle, above the noise limits contained herein for the category of motor vehicle and speed limits specified,when tested with a measurement procedure approved by the commissioner.No person shall operate a motor vehicle incorporating such parts. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:L 1987 c 186 s 15;18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 9 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 7030.1040 7030.1020 SCOPE. This chapter applies to the total noise from a vehicle or combination of vehicles of a type subject to registration pursuant to Minnesota Statutes,chapter 168 and shall not be construed as limiting or precluding the enforcement of any other provision of law relating to motor vehicle exhaust noise. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.1030 EXCEPTIONS. Vehicles under parts 7030.1050 and 7030.1060 are allowed to exceed the noise limits contained herein when performing acceleration maneuvers for safety purposes. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.1040 NOISE LIMIT FOR VEHICLES OVER 10,000 POUNDS. Motor vehicle noise limits for vehicles with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds and any combination of vehicles towed by such motor vehicle. A.Speed limits greater than 35 mph. B.Speed limits equal to or less than 35 mph and stationary run-up tests (for vehicles with governed engines).For stationary run-up tests on all-paved surfaces,add 2 dBA. C.Speed limits equal to or less than 35 mph and stationary run-up tests (for vehicles with governed engines),for vehicles manufactured on or after January 1,1978.For stationary run-up tests on all-paved surfaces,add 2 dBA. D.Speed limits equal to or less than 35 mph and stationary run-up tests (for vehicles with governed engines),for vehicles manufactured on or after January 1,1982.For stationary run-up tests on all-paved surfaces,add 2 dBA. Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 7030.1060 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 10 Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.1050 MOTOR VEHICLE NOISE LIMITS FOR MOTORCYCLES. A.For vehicles manufactured before January 1,1975. B.Speed limits greater than 35 mph for vehicles manufactured on or after January 1,1975. C.Speed limits equal to or less than 35 mph for vehicles manufactured on or after January 1, 1975. Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 7030.1060 NOISE LIMITS FOR OTHER VEHICLES. Motor vehicle noise limits for any other motor vehicle not included under parts 7030.1040 and 7030.1050 and any combination of vehicles towed by such motor vehicle. Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. 11 NOISE POLLUTION CONTROL 7030.1060 Statutory Authority:MS s 116.07 History:18 SR 614 Published Electronically:December 12,2003 Copyright ©2017 by the Revisor of Statutes,State of Minnesota.All Rights Reserved. Attachment B Noise Monitoring Data for August 10, 2023 through August 16, 2023 Hunter Lions Park Pickleball Noise Monitoring – September 12, 2023 Calibration Frequency: 1 kHz Initial Calibration: 94.2 dB Final Calibration: 94.1 dB Last Cal. Check: 08/16/23 @ 11:03 PM Location: Measurements: Meteorology: Preamplifier: Location: Project: Engineer: Microphone: Last Calibrated: Analyzer: Calibrator: Start Time: End Time: Run Time: City of Medina, Pickleball Noise Monitoring P2965 Medina, Minnesota A.J. Baxter Project No: Date: Calibration Check: Acoustic Test Results Minneapolis, Minnesota | o: 952.831.4646 | esi-engineering.com Figure B1 Larson Davis PRM831 s/n 070949 Larson Davis 377C20 s/n 320010 Larson Davis CAL200 s/n 18322 January 30, 2023 Larson Davis 831 s/n 4694 1:51:23 PM 36517.0 seconds 12:00:00 AM 8/10/2023 One Second and Hourly Ambient Noise Levels A-Weighted Results 12:00:AM 2:00:AM 4:00:AM 6:00:AM 8:00:AM 10:00:AM 12:00:PM 2:00:PM 4:00:PM 6:00:PM 8:00:PM 10:00:PM 12:00:AM Time, h.m.s AM/PM 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 dB So u n d P r e s s u r e L e v e l , d B r e . 2 0 µ P a 23081000.LD0.s - LAFmax 23081000.LD0.s - LN10 23081000.LD0.s - LN50 5:07:41 PM 57.5 dBA 64.5 dBA 49.7 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L50 Data Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 1:51:23 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 60 dBA 50 dBA 49 dBA 51 dBA 50 dBA 53 dBA 49 dBA 48 dBA 52 dBA 51 dBA 49 dBA Location A Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L10 Data Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 1:51:23 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 73 dBA 64 dBA 64 dBA 67 dBA 65 dBA 65 dBA 60 dBA 59 dBA 54 dBA 52 dBA 55 dBA Temperature: 73 °F Wind Speed / Dir.: 7 MPH Humidity: 57% LA fast (not fast max) LA fast (not fast max) Calibration Frequency: 1 kHz Initial Calibration: 94.2 dB Final Calibration: 94.1 dB Last Cal. Check: 08/16/23 @ 11:03 PM Location: Measurements: Meteorology: Preamplifier: Location: Project: Engineer: Microphone: Last Calibrated: Analyzer: Calibrator: Start Time: End Time: Run Time: City of Medina, Pickleball Noise Monitoring P2965 Medina, Minnesota A.J. Baxter Project No: Date: Calibration Check: Acoustic Test Results Minneapolis, Minnesota | o: 952.831.4646 | esi-engineering.com Figure B2 Larson Davis PRM831 s/n 070949 Larson Davis 377C20 s/n 320010 Larson Davis CAL200 s/n 18322 January 30, 2023 Larson Davis 831 s/n 4694 12:00:00 AM 86400.0 seconds 12:00:00 AM 8/11/2023 One Second and Hourly Ambient Noise Levels A-Weighted Results 12:00:AM 4:00:AM 8:00:AM 12:00:PM 4:00:PM 8:00:PM 12:00:AM Time, h.m.s AM/PM 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 dB So u n d P r e s s u r e L e v e l , d B r e . 2 0 µ P a 23081100.LD0.s - LAFmax 23081100.LD0.s - LN10 23081100.LD0.s - LN50 9:00:31 AM 51.0 dBA 63.2 dBA 50.6 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L50 Data Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 49 dBA 45 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 47 dBA 51 dBA 51 dBA 51 dBA 53 dBA 49 dBA 50 dBA 48 dBA 49 dBA 56 dBA 61 dBA 49 dBA 48 dBA 47 dBA 49 dBA 49 dBA 48 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L10 Data Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 52 dBA 51 dBA 47 dBA 49 dBA 46 dBA 52 dBA 56 dBA 61 dBA 65 dBA 63 dBA 65 dBA 64 dBA 64 dBA 65 dBA 64 dBA 63 dBA 68 dBA 71 dBA 62 dBA 59 dBA 57 dBA 55 dBA 52 dBA 53 dBA Temperature: 73 °F Wind Speed / Dir.: 9 MPH Humidity: 75% Location A LA fast (not fast max) LA fast (not fast max) Calibration Frequency: 1 kHz Initial Calibration: 94.2 dB Final Calibration: 94.1 dB Last Cal. Check: 08/16/23 @ 11:03 PM Location: Measurements: Meteorology: Preamplifier: Location: Project: Engineer: Microphone: Last Calibrated: Analyzer: Calibrator: Start Time: End Time: Run Time: City of Medina, Pickleball Noise Monitoring P2965 Medina, Minnesota A.J. Baxter Project No: Date: Calibration Check: Acoustic Test Results Minneapolis, Minnesota | o: 952.831.4646 | esi-engineering.com Figure B3 Larson Davis PRM831 s/n 070949 Larson Davis 377C20 s/n 320010 Larson Davis CAL200 s/n 18322 January 30, 2023 Larson Davis 831 s/n 4694 12:00:00 AM 86400.0 seconds 12:00:00 AM 8/12/2023 One Second and Hourly Ambient Noise Levels A-Weighted Results 12:00:AM 4:00:AM 8:00:AM 12:00:PM 4:00:PM 8:00:PM 12:00:AM Time, h.m.s AM/PM 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 dB So u n d P r e s s u r e L e v e l , d B r e . 2 0 µ P a 23081200.LD0.s - LAFmax 23081200.LD0.s - LN10 23081200.LD0.s - LN50 9:00:31 AM 55.4 dBA 63.2 dBA 50.2 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L50 Data Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 46 dBA 45 dBA 45 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 45 dBA 46 dBA 48 dBA 48 dBA 50 dBA 51 dBA 51 dBA 51 dBA 59 dBA 50 dBA 49 dBA 47 dBA 48 dBA 49 dBA 48 dBA 49 dBA 52 dBA 50 dBA 48 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L10 Data Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 47 dBA 46 dBA 50 dBA 48 dBA 47 dBA 47 dBA 55 dBA 56 dBA 61 dBA 63 dBA 63 dBA 63 dBA 63 dBA 68 dBA 64 dBA 64 dBA 63 dBA 61 dBA 62 dBA 59 dBA 56 dBA 57 dBA 53 dBA 50 dBA Temperature: 73 °F Wind Speed / Dir.: 9 MPH Humidity: 61% Location A LA fast (not fast max) LA fast (not fast max) Calibration Frequency: 1 kHz Initial Calibration: 94.2 dB Final Calibration: 94.1 dB Last Cal. Check: 08/16/23 @ 11:03 PM Location: Measurements: Meteorology: Preamplifier: Location: Project: Engineer: Microphone: Last Calibrated: Analyzer: Calibrator: Start Time: End Time: Run Time: City of Medina, Pickleball Noise Monitoring P2965 Medina, Minnesota A.J. Baxter Project No: Date: Calibration Check: Acoustic Test Results Minneapolis, Minnesota | o: 952.831.4646 | esi-engineering.com Figure B4 Larson Davis PRM831 s/n 070949 Larson Davis 377C20 s/n 320010 Larson Davis CAL200 s/n 18322 January 30, 2023 Larson Davis 831 s/n 4694 12:00:00 AM 86400.0 seconds 12:00:00 AM 8/13/2023 One Second and Hourly Ambient Noise Levels A-Weighted Results 12:00:AM 4:00:AM 8:00:AM 12:00:PM 4:00:PM 8:00:PM 12:00:AM Time, h.m.s AM/PM 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 dB So u n d P r e s s u r e L e v e l , d B r e . 2 0 µ P a 23081300.LD0.s - LAFmax 23081300.LD0.s - LN10 23081300.LD0.s - LN50 4:14:35 AM 44.1 dBA 44.7 dBA 43.8 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L50 Data Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 47 dBA 46 dBA 45 dBA 45 dBA 44 dBA 44 dBA 42 dBA 42 dBA 47 dBA 49 dBA 48 dBA 49 dBA 47 dBA 50 dBA 51 dBA 50 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 51 dBA 46 dBA 44 dBA 47 dBA 48 dBA 51 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L10 Data Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 49 dBA 47 dBA 46 dBA 55 dBA 45 dBA 45 dBA 47 dBA 51 dBA 57 dBA 60 dBA 62 dBA 64 dBA 62 dBA 63 dBA 62 dBA 64 dBA 64 dBA 60 dBA 63 dBA 60 dBA 57 dBA 50 dBA 52 dBA 55 dBA Temperature: 73 °F Wind Speed / Dir.: 9 MPH Humidity: 61% Location A LA fast (not fast max) LA fast (not fast max) Calibration Frequency: 1 kHz Initial Calibration: 94.2 dB Final Calibration: 94.1 dB Last Cal. Check: 08/16/23 @ 11:03 PM Location: Measurements: Meteorology: Preamplifier: Location: Project: Engineer: Microphone: Last Calibrated: Analyzer: Calibrator: Start Time: End Time: Run Time: City of Medina, Pickleball Noise Monitoring P2965 Medina, Minnesota A.J. Baxter Project No: Date: Calibration Check: Acoustic Test Results Minneapolis, Minnesota | o: 952.831.4646 | esi-engineering.com Figure B5 Larson Davis PRM831 s/n 070949 Larson Davis 377C20 s/n 320010 Larson Davis CAL200 s/n 18322 January 30, 2023 Larson Davis 831 s/n 4694 12:00:00 AM 86400.0 seconds 12:00:00 AM 8/14/2023 One Second and Hourly Ambient Noise Levels A-Weighted Results 12:00:AM 4:00:AM 8:00:AM 12:00:PM 4:00:PM 8:00:PM 12:00:AM Time, h.m.s AM/PM 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 dB So u n d P r e s s u r e L e v e l , d B r e . 2 0 µ P a 23081400.LD0.s - LAFmax 23081400.LD0.s - LN10 23081400.LD0.s - LN50 8:00:06 AM 69.7 dBA 66.5 dBA 52.0 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L50 Data Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 54 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 45 dBA 47 dBA 49 dBA 50 dBA 52 dBA 50 dBA 48 dBA 49 dBA 51 dBA 52 dBA 49 dBA 50 dBA 51 dBA 51 dBA 52 dBA 50 dBA 48 dBA 46 dBA 44 dBA 43 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L10 Data Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 57 dBA 54 dBA 47 dBA 47 dBA 46 dBA 54 dBA 59 dBA 64 dBA 67 dBA 65 dBA 61 dBA 64 dBA 66 dBA 68 dBA 64 dBA 64 dBA 66 dBA 66 dBA 64 dBA 62 dBA 59 dBA 54 dBA 53 dBA 56 dBA Location A Temperature: 64 °F Wind Speed / Dir.: 11 MPH Humidity: 87% LA fast (not fast max) LA fast (not fast max) Calibration Frequency: 1 kHz Initial Calibration: 94.2 dB Final Calibration: 94.1 dB Last Cal. Check: 08/16/23 @ 11:03 PM Location: Measurements: Meteorology: Preamplifier: Location: Project: Engineer: Microphone: Last Calibrated: Analyzer: Calibrator: Start Time: End Time: Run Time: City of Medina, Pickleball Noise Monitoring P2965 Medina, Minnesota A.J. Baxter Project No: Date: Calibration Check: Acoustic Test Results Minneapolis, Minnesota | o: 952.831.4646 | esi-engineering.com Figure B6 Larson Davis PRM831 s/n 070949 Larson Davis 377C20 s/n 320010 Larson Davis CAL200 s/n 18322 January 30, 2023 Larson Davis 831 s/n 4694 12:00:00 AM 86400.0 seconds 12:00:00 AM 8/15/2023 One Second and Hourly Ambient Noise Levels A-Weighted Results 12:00:AM 4:00:AM 8:00:AM 12:00:PM 4:00:PM 8:00:PM 12:00:AM Time, h.m.s AM/PM 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 dB So u n d P r e s s u r e L e v e l , d B r e . 2 0 µ P a 23081500.LD0.s - LAFmax 23081500.LD0.s - LN10 23081500.LD0.s - LN50 11:09:39 AM 57.5 dBA 63.8 dBA 49.3 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L50 Data Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 41 dBA 40 dBA 39 dBA 40 dBA 43 dBA 48 dBA 52 dBA 54 dBA 54 dBA 51 dBA 47 dBA 49 dBA 50 dBA 49 dBA 49 dBA 51 dBA 53 dBA 52 dBA 52 dBA 52 dBA 49 dBA 53 dBA 52 dBA 51 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L10 Data Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 12:00:00 PM 1:00:00 PM 2:00:00 PM 3:00:00 PM 4:00:00 PM 5:00:00 PM 6:00:00 PM 7:00:00 PM 8:00:00 PM 9:00:00 PM 10:00:00 PM 11:00:00 PM 45 dBA 46 dBA 43 dBA 50 dBA 56 dBA 53 dBA 58 dBA 66 dBA 65 dBA 64 dBA 64 dBA 64 dBA 64 dBA 65 dBA 64 dBA 66 dBA 67 dBA 66 dBA 64 dBA 63 dBA 57 dBA 57 dBA 54 dBA 52 dBA Location A Temperature: 70 °F Wind Speed / Dir.: 11 MPH Humidity: 64% LA fast (not fast max) LA fast (not fast max) Calibration Frequency: 1 kHz Initial Calibration: 94.2 dB Final Calibration: 94.1 dB Last Cal. Check: 08/16/23 @ 11:03 PM Location: Measurements: Meteorology: Preamplifier: Location: Project: Engineer: Microphone: Last Calibrated: Analyzer: Calibrator: Start Time: End Time: Run Time: City of Medina, Pickleball Noise Monitoring P2965 Medina, Minnesota A.J. Baxter Project No: Date: Calibration Check: Acoustic Test Results Minneapolis, Minnesota | o: 952.831.4646 | esi-engineering.com Figure B7 Larson Davis PRM831 s/n 070949 Larson Davis 377C20 s/n 320010 Larson Davis CAL200 s/n 18322 January 30, 2023 Larson Davis 831 s/n 4694 12:00:00 AM 39796.0 seconds 11:03:16 AM 8/16/2023 One Second and Hourly Ambient Noise Levels A-Weighted Results 12:00:AM 2:00:AM 4:00:AM 6:00:AM 8:00:AM 10:00:AM 12:00:PM 2:00:PM 4:00:PM 6:00:PM 8:00:PM 10:00:PM 12:00:AM Time, h.m.s AM/PM 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 dB So u n d P r e s s u r e L e v e l , d B r e . 2 0 µ P a 23081600.LD0.s - LAFmax 23081600.LD0.s - LN10 23081600.LD0.s - LN50 10:00:14 AM 55.3 dBA 67.5 dBA 51.6 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L50 Data Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 Time L50 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 51 dBA 50 dBA 49 dBA 48 dBA 47 dBA 46 dBA 46 dBA 52 dBA 57 dBA 52 dBA 52 dBA 69 dBA Noise Monitoring Measured Hourly L10 Data Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 Time L10 12:00:00 AM 1:00:00 AM 2:00:00 AM 3:00:00 AM 4:00:00 AM 5:00:00 AM 6:00:00 AM 7:00:00 AM 8:00:00 AM 9:00:00 AM 10:00:00 AM 11:00:00 AM 52 dBA 51 dBA 50 dBA 48 dBA 48 dBA 50 dBA 57 dBA 64 dBA 66 dBA 65 dBA 68 dBA 74 dBA Location A Temperature: 77 °F Wind Speed / Dir.: 14 MPH Humidity: 59% LA fast (not fast max) LA fast (not fast max) Attachment C L10 and L50 Summary Tables for August 10, 2023 through August 16, 2023 Hunter Lions Park Pickleball Noise Monitoring – September 8, 2023 C1 LAfast L Afast Max MPCA LAfast L Afast Max MPCA Date Hour L10, dBA L10, dBA L10 Limit L50, dBA L50, dBA L50 Limit 2:00:00 PM 64 65 50 60 3:00:00 PM 64 65 49 60 4:00:00 PM 67 65 51 60 5:00:00 PM 65 65 50 60 6:00:00 PM 65 65 53 60 7:00:00 PM 60 65 49 60 8:00:00 PM 59 65 48 60 9:00:00 PM 54 65 52 60 10:00:00 PM 52 55 51 50 11:00:00 PM 55 55 49 50 12:00:00 AM 52 55 49 50 1:00 AM 51 55 45 50 2:00:00 AM 47 55 46 50 3:00:00 AM 49 55 46 50 4:00:00 AM 46 55 46 50 5:00:00 AM 52 55 46 50 6:00:00 AM 56 55 46 50 7:00:00 AM 61 63 65 47 48 60 8:00:00 AM 65 67 65 51 55 60 9:00:00 AM 63 65 65 51 54 60 10:00:00 AM 65 67 65 51 54 60 11:00:00 AM 64 66 65 53 55 60 12:00:00 PM 64 66 65 49 50 60 1:00:00 PM 65 67 65 50 53 60 2:00:00 PM 64 65 48 60 3:00:00 PM 63 65 49 60 4:00:00 PM 68 65 56 60 5:00:00 PM 71 65 61 60 6:00:00 PM 62 65 49 60 7:00:00 PM 59 65 48 60 8:00:00 PM 57 65 47 60 9:00:00 PM 55 65 49 60 10:00:00 PM 52 55 49 50 11:00:00 PM 53 55 48 50 12:00:00 AM 47 55 46 50 1:00 AM 46 55 45 50 2:00:00 AM 50 55 45 50 3:00:00 AM 48 55 46 50 4:00:00 AM 47 55 46 50 5:00:00 AM 47 55 45 50 6:00:00 AM 55.2 55.0 45.9 50.0 7:00:00 AM 56 58 65 48 49 60 8:00:00 AM 61 63 65 48 62 60 9:00:00 AM 63 65 65 50 62 60 10:00:00 AM 63 65 65 51 55 60 11:00:00 AM 63 65 65 51 62 60 12:00:00 PM 63 65 65 51 56 60 1:00:00 PM 68 70 65 59 60 60 2:00:00 PM 64 65 50 60 3:00:00 PM 64 65 49 60 4:00:00 PM 63 65 47 60 5:00:00 PM 61 65 48 60 6:00:00 PM 62 65 49 60 7:00:00 PM 59 65 48 60 8:00:00 PM 56 65 49 60 9:00:00 PM 57 65 52 60 10:00:00 PM 53 55 50 50 11:00:00 PM 50 55 48 50 12:00:00 AM 49 55 47 50 1:00 AM 47 55 46 50 2:00:00 AM 46 55 45 50 3:00:00 AM 55 55 45 50 4:00:00 AM 45 55 44 50 5:00:00 AM 45 55 44 50 6:00:00 AM 47 48 55 42 43 50 7:00:00 AM 51 53 65 42 43 60 8:00:00 AM 57 60 65 47 52 60 9:00:00 AM 60 63 65 49 54 60 10:00:00 AM 62 64 65 48 51 60 11:00:00 AM 64 66 65 49 51 60 12:00:00 PM 62 64 65 47 50 60 1:00:00 PM 63 65 65 50 55 60 2:00:00 PM 62 65 51 60 3:00:00 PM 64 65 50 60 4:00:00 PM 64 65 46 60 5:00:00 PM 60 65 46 60 6:00:00 PM 63 65 51 60 7:00:00 PM 60 65 46 60 8:00:00 PM 57 65 44 60 9:00:00 PM 50 65 47 60 10:00:00 PM 52 55 48 50 11:00:00 PM 55 55 51 50 Thursday, August 10, 2023 Friday, August 11, 2023 Saturday, August 12, 2023 Sunday, August 13, 2023 C2 LAfast L Afast Max MPCA LAfast L Afast Max MPCA Date Hour L10, dBA L10, dBA L10 Limit L50, dBA L50, dBA L50 Limit 12:00:00 AM 57 55 54 50 1:00 AM 54 55 46 50 2:00:00 AM 47 55 46 50 3:00:00 AM 47 55 46 50 4:00:00 AM 46 55 45 50 5:00:00 AM 54 55 47 50 6:00:00 AM 59 55 49 50 7:00:00 AM 64 66 65 50 51 60 8:00:00 AM 67 68 65 52 53 60 9:00:00 AM 65 67 65 50 51 60 10:00:00 AM 61 63 65 48 49 60 11:00:00 AM 64 66 65 49 51 60 12:00:00 PM 66 68 65 51 52 60 1:00:00 PM 68 70 65 52 53 60 2:00:00 PM 64 65 49 60 3:00:00 PM 64 65 50 60 4:00:00 PM 66 65 51 60 5:00:00 PM 66 65 51 60 6:00:00 PM 64 65 52 60 7:00:00 PM 62 65 50 60 8:00:00 PM 59 65 48 60 9:00:00 PM 54 65 46 60 10:00:00 PM 53 55 44 50 11:00:00 PM 56 55 43 50 12:00:00 AM 45 55 41 50 1:00 AM 46 55 40 50 2:00:00 AM 43 55 39 50 3:00:00 AM 50 55 40 50 4:00:00 AM 56 55 43 50 5:00:00 AM 53 55 48 50 6:00:00 AM 58 55 52 50 7:00:00 AM 66 68 65 54 55 60 8:00:00 AM 65 67 65 54 56 60 9:00:00 AM 64 66 65 51 55 60 10:00:00 AM 64 65 65 47 49 60 11:00:00 AM 64 66 65 49 52 60 12:00:00 PM 64 67 65 50 53 60 1:00:00 PM 65 67 65 49 52 60 2:00:00 PM 64 65 49 60 3:00:00 PM 66 65 51 60 4:00:00 PM 67 65 53 60 5:00:00 PM 66 65 52 60 6:00:00 PM 64 65 52 60 7:00:00 PM 63 65 52 60 8:00:00 PM 57 65 49 60 9:00:00 PM 57 65 53 60 10:00:00 PM 54 55 52 50 11:00:00 PM 52 55 51 50 12:00:00 AM 52 55 51 50 1:00:00 AM 51 55 50 50 2:00:00 AM 50 55 49 50 3:00:00 AM 48 55 48 50 4:00:00 AM 48 55 47 50 5:00:00 AM 50 55 46 50 6:00:00 AM 57 55 46 50 7:00:00 AM 64 66 65 52 53 60 8:00:00 AM 66 68 65 57 58 60 9:00:00 AM 65 67 65 52 55 60 10:00:00 AM 68 65 52 60 Tuesday, August 15, 2023 Wednesday, August 16, 2023 Monday, August 14, 2023 CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION Meeting Minutes June 21, 2023 Page 1 of 6 The Park Commission of Medina, Minnesota met in regular session on June 21, 2023 at 7:00 p.m. Vice Chairperson Terry Sharp presided. 1. CALL TO ORDER Vice Chairperson Terry Sharp called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Present: Park Commissioners Terry Sharp, Troy Hutchinson, Will Gunter and Tom Mayer. Youth Park Commissioners June Ney and Grace Illingworth. Absent: Park Commissioners Mary Morrison, Nila Norman and Steve Webster. Also Present: Public Works Director Steve Scherer and Public Works Administrative Assistant Lisa DeMars and City Council Member Dino DesLauriers. 2. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA A motion was made by Mayer, seconded by Gunter to move-up pickleball court discussion so residents who are present are not expected to sit through entire meeting. Scherer brought the Park Commission up to speed noting that the new courts at Hunter Lions Park opened the day after the annual Park Commission tour and have been busy ever since. He said the city has received numerous positive comments and a few negative comments, most regarding pickleball noise, with emails directed to the Mayor and Councilmembers. Scherer reminded the Park Commission that the plan was to collect data before considering adjustments to hours or allowing league play or the ability to reserve the courts because we didn’t know if they were going to be a popular amenity. Kate Agarwala, 3241 Butternut Drive, voiced concerns about pickleball noise. Agarwala said she does not begrudge pickleball and agrees players deserve to have a place to play, but homeowners deserve to use their decks, porches, and backyards, and to be in their own homes without hearing constant pinging. Hutchinson asked Agarwala how long she has lived at her address and if she received the notices about the courts, and if she expressed concerns about pickleball at that time. CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION Meeting Minutes June 21, 2023 Page 2 of 6 Agarwala stated she did receive notices however had no idea how disruptive the courts would be to her family. Agarwala noted noise from baseball games was not destructive like the pickleball noise. Sharp thanked Agarwala for the comments and said the goal of the Commission is to provide park and recreation activities for the City, and noise comes with use of these assets. He noted Hunter Lions Park was not being utilized, so the goal was to provide desirable options. Sharp explained pickleball has been one of the top requested amenities. Sharp stated he understood the complaints and although a decision can’t be made at this meeting, the Commission will take these concerns under advisement. Ellen Bach, 220 Bergamot Drive, voiced her support for the pickleball courts. She noted how many new neighbors she has met on the courts. Bach asked for additional courts to be built for less wait time and stated she is an avid player, playing at a very high level for years, and would like to help promote the courts with options like hosting clinics, allowing league play, and designating play time slots depending on skill level. Bach offered to help run a pickleball program. Hutchinson thanked Bach for the comments and noted that Medina doesn’t have staff resources available to devote to parks and recreational programs, like neighboring larger cities do. Hutchinson invited Bach to draft a proposal and submit it through Staff for the Commissions review. 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES A. Approval of the April 19, 2023 Regular Park Commission Meeting Minutes. A motion was made by Hutchinson and seconded by Gunter to approve the April 19, 2023 Park Commission meeting minutes as presented. B. Approval of the May 17, 2023 Regular Park Commission Meeting Minutes. A motion was made by Hutchinson and seconded by Gunter to Norman to approve the May 17, 2023 Park Commission meeting minutes as presented. 4. CITY COUNCIL UPDATE DesLauriers provided an update on recent City Council actions. CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION Meeting Minutes June 21, 2023 Page 3 of 6 5. REPRESENTATIVE AT NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING Sharp noted upcoming council meetings to be held on July 5 and 18, and August 2 and 15; and that Gunter is on the roster for July; and Mayer is on the roster for August. Sharp also noted that Scherer will continue to provide meeting updates if any Commissioner is unable to attend or trade dates. 6. PRESERVE OF MEDINA – PUD General Plan and Prelim Plat East of Holy Name Drive, North of CR 24 Scherer stated that the Commission previously reviewed a concept plan for this rural five lot subdivision. He noted the PUD allows for more flexibility of the zoning standards and although no park facilities or broader trail corridor are identified in the vicinity, staff recommends securing trail easements for a future Medina Road to Holy Name connection and cash in-lieu. Tim Boser, applicant, stated that they are working with Stantec on the wetland restoration project as that firm has experience in that area and said they are not positive where the wetland buffer will ultimately fall which is why they asked the Planning Commission for flexibility on lot size. He stated the process can take up to five years and once completed the land would be dedicated to the City or Watershed District. The Park Commission also heard from Greg Hoglund, co-applicant, who opposed the trail easement because it would be undesirable for potential property owners as well as encroach on the existing homeowner properties on Holy Name Road. Gunter said he agreed that Holy Name Road is narrow which is why those residents desire access to the trail system. Hutchinson suggested a boardwalk option or extension of a path down the east and south border. Hoglund objected, reminding the Commission that the City doesn’t have a trail corridor identified for this area. A motion was made by Hutchinson and seconded by Gunter to recommend requiring the trail easements described in the staff report and cash-in-lieu of additional park dedication. 7. LAKESHORE PARK RENOVATION DISCUSSION DeMars presented the concept plan and draft modified documents. CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION Meeting Minutes June 21, 2023 Page 4 of 6 Hutchinson asked when the kayak rack will be installed and noted residents in the Lakeshore neighborhood have been waiting for this amenity for quite some time. He also noted his neighbors are excited for the seating areas. DeMars and Scherer explained that Public Works has been short staffed and inundated with street projects this year. Hutchinson pointed out that it appears the City’s limited resources will continue to be consumed by reactive issues like pickleball complaints. DeMars agreed that Public Works handles the parks department, but the first priority is streets and utilities. Mayer asked if the lottery would restart each calendar year. DeMars confirmed that the proposal has the lottery restarting each year with an application period from January to March. Sharp asked how the amenity would be announced, the Commission agreed it makes sense to post an announcement on the rack in lieu of social media or our website, allowing the City to gauge neighborhood popularity. Gunter commented the Park Commission has the option to continuously analyze usage and update the process as needed. Hutchinson directed Staff to allow storage rack usage through November because it is still a popular month to be out on the lake. The Park Commission discussed charging a fee and ultimately agreed costs are covered by tax dollars and could be amended later if the Commission recommends it necessary. Additionally, the Commission discussed installation of a second rack, which was originally planned. DeMars stated only one rack was ordered because the City wanted to evaluate the choice after a full season, including winters, to ensure this model is a lasting choice. A motion was made by Hutchinson and seconded by Sharp to recommend approval of the Lakeshore Park concept plan and draft documents. CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION Meeting Minutes June 21, 2023 Page 5 of 6 8. STAFF REPORT DeMars presented the staff report. There were no questions. A motion was made by Hutchinson and seconded by Sharp directing City Staff to document the reason for deviation of the normal process for reviewing grant opportunities and recommending to Council support regarding pursuance of inclusion in the Green River Grant Opportunity, as attached in the park meeting packet. 2024-2028 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN (CIP) PARK FUND DISCUSSION Scherer walked the Park Commission through the capital plan as presented in the meeting packet. The Park Commission recommended the addition of pickleball courts at Maple Park, which is further away from properties and already experiences high noise due to County Road 19. The Commission also recommended building the pavilion at Lakeshore park as part of an eagle scout project for potential cost savings. The Commission recommended a redesign of Walnut Park into a raingarden or nature area because residents in the neighborhood do not utilize the space. DeMars explained the park asset inventory is managed in an excel spreadsheet and is currently a compilation of notes left behind from the previous park coordinator. DeMars admitted the inventory requires many updates. Gunter said as part of park assignments, Commissioners should review their parks inventory, and note any changes or corrections. The Park Commission agreed to try to work on the asset inventory during the off season and as time permits. Gunter noted resident input from the 2023 cleanup day event should be considered during future budget cycle planning as we start planning the land on Chippewa. A motion was made by Sharp, seconded by Hutchinson, to approve the recommended Park Capital Improvement Plan as discussed. 9. ADJOURN CITY OF MEDINA PARK COMMISSION Meeting Minutes June 21, 2023 Page 6 of 6 A motion was made by Mayer, seconded by Sharp, to adjourn the meeting. The meeting was adjourned at 7:53 p.m. Minutes prepared by Lisa De Mars. Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 1 MEDINA CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES OF JULY 5, 2023 The City Council of Medina, Minnesota met in regular session on July 5, 2023 at 7:02 p.m. in the City Hall Chambers. Acting Mayor Albers presided. I. ROLL CALL Members present: Albers, Cavanaugh (virtually arrived at 7:32 p.m.), DesLauriers, and Reid. Members absent: Martin. Also present: City Administrator Scott Johnson, City Clerk Caitlyn Walker, Attorney Dave Anderson, City Engineer Jim Stremel, City Planning Director Dusty Finke, Public Works Director Steve Scherer, and Chief of Police Jason Nelson. II. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE (7:02 p.m.) III. ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA (7:02 p.m.) The agenda was approved as presented. IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES (7:03 p.m.) A. Approval of the June 20, 2023 Work Session City Council Meeting Minutes Moved by Albers, seconded by DesLauriers, to approve the June 20, 2023 work session City Council meeting minutes as presented. Motion passed unanimously. B. Approval of the June 20, 2023 Regular City Council Meeting Minutes Albers noted that prior to the meeting Johnson distributed changes as suggested by Martin. Moved by Albers, seconded by Reid, to approve the June 20, 2023 regular City Council meeting minutes as amended. Motion passed unanimously. V. CONSENT AGENDA (7:04 p.m.) A. Approve Temporary Liquor License to Holy Name of Jesus Christ Church at 155 County Road 24 on September 16, 2023 B. Resolution 2023-73 Approving the Agreement between the City of Medina and Law Enforcement Labor Services, Inc. Representing the Local #36 Bargaining Unit for the Calendar Years 2024-2025 C. Resolution Accepting Donation from Garrett Larson Insurance Agency D. Adopt the Lakeshore Park Concept Plan and Direct Staff to Update the Related Policies Johnson noted that Item C will need to be removed from the Consent Agenda. He noted that should Cavanaugh connect into the meeting virtually at some time tonight, it could be considered at that time. Albers commented that the plan for Lakeshore Park looks nice and thanked staff and the Park Commission for that work. Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 2 Moved by Reid, seconded by DesLauriers, to approve the consent agenda as amended. Motion passed unanimously. VI. COMMENTS (7:06 p.m.) A. Comments from Citizens on Items not on the Agenda Kate Agarwala, 3241 Butternut Drive, commented on her concerns with noise from the pickleball courts at Hunter Park. She commented that her backyard is only 300 feet from the courts, and they can hear the noise in her home and even down the road from her home. She proposed hours of 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. on weekdays, not to exceed seven consecutive hours per day, and 10 a.m. and 5 p.m. on weekends, not to exceed four consecutive hours per day. She also requested that the courts be closed one or two days per week. She commented that neighbors should be allowed to use their outdoor space and have some time of quiet. She understood that players may be frustrated with lesser hours but noted that this court is close to homes and future pickleball courts could be placed in areas further from homes. She believed that switching the tennis courts at Hamel Legion Park and the pickleball courts at Hunter Park would be the best option. She commented that this is a national issue and concerns were expressed on the proposed courts prior to the courts being opened. Albers commented that the Council has received the emails and articles from the resident as well. Brian Kirkendall, 3185 Butternut Drive, stated that he lives across the street from the pickleball court and has had a visit from the Mayor. He expressed concerns about parking and the noise. He commented that he completed a noise test and provided those results. He asked for a plan to address parking. He noted that he reviewed the meeting minutes from the last four years and provided excerpts. He commented on the visual impact of the courts and traffic and asked what the plan is to address this. He commented that he has been told that the HOA should add landscaping but noted that the City is responsible for its side of the street. Christine Kirkendall, 3185 Butternut Drive, commented that she would like to appeal to the sympathy of the Council for people that are unwell. She commented that she has a neurological disorder and cannot sleep with the courts in her backyard because of the constant noise of the ball. She commented that they waited ten years to put the deck on their home and now they cannot enjoy it because of the noise from the pickleball courts. Albers appreciated the input from the residents. B. Park Commission Scherer stated that the Park Commission discussed the pickleball courts and the resident concerns. He recognized the popularity of the courts. He commented that the City has denied all league requests to use the courts. He noted that they received the first complaint two days after the courts opened. He stated that the Park Commission asked that this be monitored for the next month, with additional research being done in the community by Commission members. He noted that he was also directed to look into screening and sound barrier options. He stated that the Commission plans to bring some recommendations to the Council following its next meeting. He stated that he is also looking into potentially placing screening across the street in the right-of-way, to better screen the homes. Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 3 He stated that the Commission also discussed the Holy Name Preserve of Medina, and the Commission recommended the trail easement connecting Holy Name Drive to Brockton. DesLauriers asked how hour restrictions would be done at the courts, whether that would be done with a padlock. Scherer stated that they would perhaps post the times. He noted that currently the courts are open during park hours, sunrise to sunset. He did not think the courts would need to be locked. DesLauriers noted that he believes parking could be easily resolved. Scherer confirmed that there is additional parking as the ball field is only used by HAC for practice. Kirkendall commented on statements made during a Park Commission meeting in 2020 where a representative from HAC stated that they would use the field for little league. Scherer stated that he spoke with HAC and was reassured that the field is only used for practice. DesLauriers stated that the HAC contract is reviewed annually and is easily amendable. Albers stated that perhaps a proposal for reduced hours could be presented to the Council at its next meeting to provide some temporary relief as a recommendation from the Park Commission would not be considered by the Council until August. Cavanaugh joined the meeting virtually. C. Planning Commission Finke reported that the Commission does not have any hearings to consider at its next meeting. He noted that there is a discussion item the Commission could consider or that could be postponed to the next meeting. He noted that he will speak with the Chair to make that determination. VII. PRESENTATIONS (7:33 p.m.) A. Swearing In Ceremony for David Hall Albers conducted the swearing in of Officer David Hall. Nelson commented that Hall has been an employee of Medina for 20 years and is a pillar of the organization. He commented that he will be a great Sergeant. V. CONSENT AGENDA (Continued) (7:36 p.m.) C. Resolution 2023-74 Accepting Donation from Garrett Larson Insurance Agency Johnson stated that $200 was received for the Cops and Bobbers Program. Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 4 Albers thanked the agency for the generous donation, which was much appreciated for a great event. Moved by DesLauriers, seconded by Reid, to adopt Resolution 2023-74 accepting donation from Garrett Larson Insurance Agency. A roll call vote was performed: Cavanaugh aye Reid aye DesLauriers aye Albers aye Motion passed unanimously. VIII. NEW BUSINESS A. Reflections Dental Care – 872 Highway 55 – Site Plan Review (7:37 p.m.) Johnson stated that the applicant is requesting site plan review for a multi-tenant building at 872 Highway 55. He noted that the existing buildings would be demolished to construct the new facility. Finke identified the subject site, which is guided for commercial use and zoned commercial highway. He stated that the site is currently accessed from Highway 55 and noted that the proposed uses are allowed within the zoning district. He noted that as proposed the site would meet the minimum parking for office and retail, with a condition that uses with a higher parking need not be permitted without review to ensure sufficient parking. He stated that relative dimensional standards are met by the proposal, with access to remain in the current location. He noted that if Clydesdale Trail is extended in the future, access could be provided from that location. He provided a brief summary of design, materials, and landscaping. He stated that the Planning Commission reviewed this at its last meeting and unanimously recommended approval. He stated that concern was expressed about the access but it is an existing access and there is not the needed right-of-way to provide access from Clydesdale. DesLauriers asked for clarification on the private property. Finke replied that property is owned by McDonalds and estimated that to be less than half an acre. DesLauriers commented that vehicles leaving that area often turn right, but sometimes cross all the way over. He stated that there is a proposed driveway for the future and asked if that could be done now. Albers noted that McDonalds would need to be approached for the right-of-way. Finke confirmed that McDonalds owns that property and would need to be approached. He recognized that it would be in the interest of the City and applicant to have that connection. He noted that there would need to be a willing sale of the property, or some other process. Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 5 DesLauriers noted that Peg’s would also benefit from that driveway access as well. Finke commented that he would imagine that the property owner would like to at least keep a limited access onto Highway 55. He noted that control would be by MnDOT, and the City would not have that control to limit access in that location. Albers asked if the building would house two or three tenants. He recognized that the dental use would limit the other occupants. Finke commented that there would be sufficient parking for retail. Albers invited the applicant to speak. Mark Fuller, representing the applicant, commented that the City could undergo a taking to create the access to the north. He commented that they would not have a method to force access themselves. He commented on the issue of slope. He noted that if the access were to happen, that would need to happen relatively quickly as it would not only impact their property but also Peg’s and McDonalds. He stated that currently they have planned for a fire turnaround that would not be needed if the alternate access were provided which would leave that as additional impervious surface. DesLauriers commented that the plan looks good and will clean up the site. Albers agreed. He commented that he likes the condition to explore connection to Clydesdale as part of the process. He questioned if the City should take the lead on that or whether the applicant should be directed to work with McDonalds. Fuller commented that they would be a willing participant but would want the City to take the lead. He commented that although they have a connection planned that would meet engineering standards, it is not optimal if the cul-de-sac stays in the current condition because of the slope. DesLauriers commented that he recalled that Peg’s was looking to make some improvements and asked for details. Finke replied that Peg’s is doing a small addition. He recapped that there is an interest from the Council and Planning Commission that staff engage to determine what could be done to move that access to the north forward. He recognized that would need to be done after the site plan review and as construction commences. Cavanaugh asked if there was anything that would need to be done to the approval to leave that connection option open. Finke commented that they could work something into the language that would allow for that connection to the north and could be reviewed administratively by staff. The Council agreed. 1. Resolution 2023-75 Granting Site Plan Review Approval to Nitya Investments LLC for Construction at 872 Highway 55 Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 6 Moved by DesLauriers, seconded by Reid, to adopt Resolution 2023-75 granting site plan review approval to Nitya Investments, LLC for construction at 872 Highway 55 with the additional language as mentioned by Finke. A roll call vote was performed: Cavanaugh aye Reid aye DesLauriers aye Albers aye Motion passed unanimously. B. School Lake Nature Preserve (7:59 p.m.) Johnson stated that final plat approval was given for this six lot subdivision in 2018 and the applicant is requesting an amendment. He stated that there are formal English gardens, and the property owner would like to separate those from the lot to allow the smaller lot to be sold. He stated that the garden would be on its own outlot, which would not be buildable and would be conveyed to another property owner in the subdivision. Finke commented that this conservation design subdivision was approved in 2018 and provided brief background. He commented that the subject site is within the buildable lots and does not impact the conservation areas. He noted that the proposal would take a portion of the buildable lot and create an outlot that could be conveyed to a property owner within the subdivision. He noted that the initial plan would be to convey that to Mr. Marks who would continue to maintain the garden. He commented that staff suggests that outlot G be incorporated into this plat which will only change the legal description. He stated that the Planning Commission did recommend approval. Albers invited the applicant to speak. Kent Williams, representing the applicant, commented that this is pretty straightforward. He noted that this change would make the lot more saleable. He noted that the maintenance of the garden would be cumbersome for someone to take on. He noted that the outlot would be conveyed to the applicant and he would continue to maintain the garden. He also confirmed agreement with the change discussed by Finke with outlot G. DesLauriers commented that it was recommended by staff that the Council delay action until the plat is updated. Finke commented that staff would prepare the documents but would not present them for approval until the plat is updated. Moved by Reid, seconded by Albers, to direct staff to prepare approval documents for the amendment to the School Lake Nature Preserve CD-PUD district and the School Lake Nature Preserve 3rd Addition plat. A roll call vote was performed: Cavanaugh aye Reid aye Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 7 DesLauriers aye Albers aye Motion passed unanimously. C. Moratorium on the Operation of Cannabis Businesses – Public Hearing 8:09 p.m.) Johnson stated that in the 2023 legislative session there was action to legalize recreational cannabis for adults over 21 years of age and it has been recommended by legal counsel that the City adopt an interim ordinance imposing a moratorium to allow the City to study the issue. Anderson stated that businesses will soon be allowed to sell recreational cannabis products following the recent legislative action. He noted that cities will have little authority to regulate cannabis businesses once the Office of Cannabis Management OCM) is up and running. He commented that although cities cannot prohibit cannabis businesses from operating, the City can place reasonable restrictions on the time, place and manner of these businesses. He stated that cities will be able to limit the maximum number of cannabis businesses in relation to the population of the city. He noted that cities are allowed to adopt an interim ordinance that would temporarily prohibit cannabis businesses until January of 2025, which is about six months longer than a typical moratorium. He noted that it is anticipated that the OCM will be running and issuing licenses in late 2024 or early 2025. He stated that this moratorium would allow the City to study the issue and determine how it would want to place its regulations. He stated that in November the City approved a moratorium on the low dose THC products that were legalized in the previous legislative session and noted that staff will bring back recommendations to address the sale of those items as those are not addressed under the new moratorium. DesLauriers asked if the edible moratorium could be extended to align with this moratorium. Anderson replied that moratorium can only run for one year. He stated that staff is looking into whether the City can prohibit the sale of those items until the State begins licensing. Albers opened the public hearing. No comments. Albers closed the public hearing. 1. Interim Ordinance 711 Authorizing a Study and Imposing a Moratorium on the Operation of Cannabis Businesses within the City of Medina Moved by Reid, seconded by DesLauriers, to adopt Interim Ordinance 711 authorizing a study and imposing a moratorium on the operation of cannabis businesses within the City of Medina. A roll call vote was performed: Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 8 Cavanaugh aye Reid aye DesLauriers aye Albers aye Motion passed unanimously. 2. Resolution 2023-76 to Publish Ordinance by Title and Summary Moved by Albers, seconded by Reid, to adopt Resolution 2023-76 to publish the ordinance by title and summary. A roll call vote was performed: Cavanaugh aye Reid aye DesLauriers aye Albers aye Motion passed unanimously. IX. CITY ADMINISTRATOR REPORT (8:21 p.m.) Johnson noted that the Hamel Rodeo begins the following night and runs through the weekend with different events including the parade on Sunday at 1 p.m. X. MAYOR & CITY COUNCIL REPORTS (8:22 p.m.) DesLauriers noted the official merger of Loretto and Hamel fire departments which became effective on July 1st. Albers recognized that is a huge achievement that has been ongoing for a number of years. XI. APPROVAL TO PAY THE BILLS (8:22 p.m.) Moved by DesLauriers, seconded by Reid, to approve the bills, EFT 006890E-006906E for $73,506.14, order check numbers 054487-054540 for $189,799.84, and payroll EFT 0512804-051832 for $62,634.10. A roll call vote was performed: Cavanaugh aye Reid aye DesLauriers aye Albers aye Motion passed unanimously. Medina City Council Meeting Minutes July 5, 2023 9 XII. ADJOURN Moved by Albers, seconded by Reid, to adjourn the meeting at 8:23 p.m. A roll call vote was performed: Cavanaugh aye Reid aye DesLauriers aye Albers aye Motion passed unanimously. Kathleen Martin, Mayor Attest: Caitlyn Walker, City Clerk Medina City Council Excerpt from 7/18/2023Minutes 1 A. A. Pickleball Court Discussion (7:09 p.m.) Johnson stated that at the July 5 City Council meeting, staff was directed to research options for potential limited times. Scherer stated that his specific direction was to provide a recommendation for reduced court hours while the Park Commission considers further sound mitigation options. He stated that the recommendation of staff would be to temporarily change the hours to 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. He stated that some members of the Commission have visited the courts and have been more involved in this topic as the group continues to discuss pickleball. He stated the Park Commission will discuss screening and other potential measures of mitigation for the courts at their meeting tomorrow night. Albers agreed that the action item was to receive temporary hours until they could develop some mitigating strategies for sound and potentially visually for the residents living nearby. Martin stated that she will allow members of the public to speak on this topic related to the temporary hour proposal. She stated that other mitigating strategies will be analyzed by the Park Commission and that body will make a recommendation for the Council to consider. Cathy Carr, 3201 Butternut Drive, commented that her family chose to live by a park and accepted the activity that came along with that choice. She stated that their lives changed in May of 2023 when people started playing pickleball nonstop. She stated that when the Park Commission chose to add pickleball to the plans for the park in 2020, it was already a highly divisive sport. She commented that pickleball is widely known as a noisy game and experts recommend that courts not be placed closer than 500 to 600 feet from residential homes. She stated that if a closer distance is chosen, a sound engineer should be used to mitigate the noise from the sport. She noted that lawsuits have and continued to be filed over the issues being discussed related to pickleball. She provided examples of sounds that would compare to the noise from pickleball noting that her home is 100 feet from the courts. She noted that her family has had to stay in their home because of the noise from the activity of pickleball and those playing the sport. She commented that people are arriving at 6:30 a.m. to begin playing. She noted that the signs state that the courts are only to be used by Medina residents and their guests and did not believe that all players fall into those categories. Martin acknowledged that the resident has researched this topic well but noted that speakers are asked to limit their comments to two minutes. She asked that the Council be provided a copy of the resident’s written materials and limit the remainder of her comments towards the suggestion for reduced hours. Carr estimated 99 ball hits per game, which over the 12-hour period proposed would subject residents to 4,752 ball hits per court. She stated that the public nuisance ordinance would not allow a dog to bark at that rate. She stated that repeated requests of residents to have noise studies have not been answered. She asked that the courts be immediately relocated to another court that would simply require restriping, is 450 feet from the closest home, and already has two buffering rows of trees. She stated that most residents chose to live in Medina to enjoy the rural character and the City has made a commitment to preserve that character. She stated that the Council has the opportunity to change course and resolve this issue. She stated that while pickleball is a great addition to Medina, it should be located in another park. Medina City Council Excerpt from 7/18/2023Minutes 2 Brian Kirkendall asked what the plan is. He stated that in reviewing the records, the plan that was presented to the public three years ago is very different than what occurred. He stated that the plan was to remove the tennis court, basketball court and baseball field. He commented that the City spent money to move the baseball field when the Hamel Athletic Club had committed to do that. He was unsure why the City spent the money when HAC had committed to that. He noted that everyone agreed to remove the court and was unsure why funds were spent to line that court for pickleball. He asked who is making the decision as it is certainly not the public. He stated that the concept was to have new tennis courts with pickleball courts but that also was not how it turned out. He stated that he reviewed the City Code which would provide specific guidance on the hours. He noted that while 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. is fine in July, that would not work in the other seasons. He noted that those limited hours are still the entire day. He commented that people begin to play at 5:45 a.m. He stated that external speakers and radios should not be allowed, and pets should not be allowed on the courts or tied to the courts. He stated that people are tying dogs to the courts and the dogs bark consistently during play while the ball goes back and forth. He proposed that additional signage should be installed listing the actions that are prohibited. He commented that people are yelling at each other and pushing each other, and this will continue to occur and potentially get worse. Martin confirmed that the resident would like to see the rules posted in the park expanded to include the rules set forth in city ordinances. Christine Kirkendall, 3185 Butternut Drive, commented that she spoke at the July 5th meeting about her personal situation and how the pickleball courts have impacted her. She commented that the first speaker covered a lot of the issues the community is facing. She invited everyone in the room to come to her home and stand on her deck to hear the sound that carries from the pickleball courts and parking lots. She stated that a few weeks ago she was home alone with COVID, waiting for two players to finish their game on the courts so that she could go outside and enjoy her deck. She stated that the two men proceeded to talk loudly in the parking lot about a woman they both had an affair with. She commented that the language was disgusting, and she could not imagine anyone being subjected to that conversation. She stated that she never intended to leave Medina, but they are moving because of this issue and is aware of the declining property value that they will face. She commented on an incident the previous day where she wanted to go to sleep but could not because there were six teenagers on the court playing loud music. She commented that she called the police as the Council had previously directed but the policeman did not say anything to the teens as he said he could not hear the music from the parking lot. She stated that she calmly went to the court and asked the teens to turn the music off and the teens yelled at her and screamed profanities at her. She stated that she went to talk to the policeman to tell them about the incident. She noted that the teens proceeded to say that they were going to make her life a living hell and proceeded to play for four more hours with their music blasting and yelling profanities. She asked that the hours for the courts be changed from 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. with one day off per week. She pleaded with the Council noting that sound mitigation measures have to be put in place. She asked for trees and greenscreen on both sides of the road. Rohit Agarwala, 3241 Butternut Drive, commented that they are already looking forward to winter at his house because the courts will be closed. He stated that if the Council chooses a reduced hours solution, he asked that the Council look at the hours that he has suggested. He stated that the majority of cities have implemented a 40-hour play week with either longer hours and more days off or shorter hours and less days off. He stated that the proposal of 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. is insulting as it shows that staff is not taking this problem seriously. He stated that kids sleep more than adults and therefore may not experience any quiet time during the day. He Medina City Council Excerpt from 7/18/2023Minutes 3 stated that as days grow shorter the entire daylight time will be filled with noise. He stated that for cities that use 12-hour play days they require courts to be 600 feet from the lot line, noting that they are not measuring from homes but from property lines. He stated that cities are choosing the wellbeing of homeowners and reduced hours would allow outdoor family time for children to play and for those around the park to enjoy their yards. He asked how the 12-hour time was developed and whether they considered the neighbors in the area. He asked the Council to reject the hours proposed and consider the neighbors and their best interest when considering this short-term solution as well as a long-term solution. He commented that the neighbors have lived with this issue for two months already and need some relief. Neil Wolf, 3390 Elm Creek Drive, commented that he does not hear any of the noise mentioned. He stated that he has not heard the fighting in the parking lot, or the dogs and he works from home. He stated that he has lived in his home for 35 years and was there when the park was initially created. He stated that the city has grown since that time and more facilities are needed for the residents. He appreciated the comments made tonight but these improvements were needed to serve all the residents of the community, not just the needs of those on Butternut. He stated that he interviewed over 40 people in his area and received no complaints about the park and the activities of the last six months. He was puzzled by the comments of the previous speakers and likened it to fake news as he lives just as close to the park as the others that spoke tonight. He commented that he does believe that some changes are necessary to allow the others that have spoken to enjoy their decks. He suggested the hours proposed of 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. and noted that if people on Butternut do not like it, they could plant trees. He stated that he did not particularly like it when the homes on Butternut were built and the construction noise that occurred nor the traffic that was added but also understands that is part of progress. He believed that the comments received were just a response to change. He stated that public works staff did an exceptionally good job in designing this, noting that there were changes in the plan, but the City received tremendous cost savings as well. He stated that he interviewed ten people last night and did not receive one complaint. He found it difficult to respond to the previous speakers as he has not experienced that. He stated that he does see kids and their parents playing pickleball and leaving with smiles on their faces. He commented that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. He stated that if the neighbors do not like the noise, there are improvements they can make on their own property. He stated that buffers are needed along Hunter from his property, all the way down, estimating six to 12 trees. He asked that the City implement the hours of 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. noting that the gates would most likely have to be locked as people have been playing at 10 p.m. He stated that the parking lot should also be striped as people are parking all over. He also suggested that the police make frequent stops to interact with the public and check on the courts. He noted that a drinking fountain would be nice because of the activity and hot weather. He commented that the signage could be improved stating the regulations clearly for users. He commented that the City is not responsible to fix everything and if people on Butternut are not happy, they can look into improvements on their property similar to what the others in the area had to do if they did not like the homes on Butternut being built. Gabe Vogel, 2972 Butternut Drive, commented that he is in support of the pickleball courts noting that he and his friends play on the courts multiple times a week. He noted that it provides them an opportunity to get together and be outdoors. He thanked the City for giving the community another reason to be outside and enjoy the summer season. He noted that he also enjoys the winter rink. He stated that his generation gets a bad reputation for their use of technology and when they do get outside and off technology, there seems to be an issue with that as well. He commented that when he is at the courts there are people of all ages and backgrounds enjoying pickleball. He stated that he recently heard an older woman comment Medina City Council Excerpt from 7/18/2023Minutes 4 that pickleball gives her and her friends an opportunity to get outside and be active and that she has made new friends at the courts. He commented that a few years ago all the parks were empty, and it is amazing to see people back outside and enjoying the company of others. He supported the hours of 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Joe Vogel, 2972 Butternut Drive, commented that despite their address on Butternut, their home is not adjacent to the park. He stated that after reading the minutes from the previous City Council meeting, he was concerned that the Council was only receiving negative feedback, therefore he is present to voice his support. He commented that as a taxpayer he is pleased to see investment in amenities that are actually used. He wanted to see a way to keep this investment open and available to the public. He commented that he is a regular user of the trail system in Medina and thanks the City for its year-round maintenance. He commented on the noise from the busy road and therefore was not sure that buffering the courts alone would solve the issue of noise for those neighbors that spoke. Paul Hermann commented that he believed that a voice from the older generation should speak. He commented that he has played pickleball in many places and many states and has not found an instance where cities do not allow play until 9 p.m. He stated that other courts open at 6 a.m. or 7 a.m. He stated that in Golden Valley the courts are similarly close to the homes and a decision was made to wait until 8 a.m. for play. He stated that he has not heard one swear word while playing at the courts nor has he seen bad behavior in the parking lot. He did agree that the rules should be more clearly posted. He stated that he has heard laughter at the courts. He noted that he has lived in Medina since the time when it was all country, before the larger developments were added and they do not complain about that. He stated that children are running around in those neighborhoods screaming and laughing, but that is called fun. He stated that perhaps the police will need to check in from time to time. He stated that the rules state Medina residents and guests, which is vague for users. He stated that one group that plays early are not Medina residents. He stated that the 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. hours seem to be in line with most communities and he would support those hours. He stated that he has never heard of a court having a day off, but perhaps that would provide some quiet. He noted that the most popular time for people to play is between 7 a.m. and 10 a.m. He stated that some people play before they go to work. Cavanaugh commented that it seems the resident has experience at other courts and asked if he has noticed sound mitigation at those courts. Hermann replied that he has never seen anything that he could say has worked. He noted that some courts have windscreens and perhaps there could be some type of screen that would help to mitigate noise. DesLauriers asked if the other courts were restricted to residents only. Hermann replied that none of those courts restrict to residents only. He commented that Plymouth tried that, but it did not work well, and the city dropped that, leaving the courts open and it has seemed to work well. He stated that people learn how many people are using the courts, the skill levels, and adjust their playtime appropriately. Martin thanked the residents for their input and asked that the minutes from this meeting and all written comments be provided to the Park Commission for its continued review. She asked the Council for input on the proposed hours of 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. seven days per week. Medina City Council Excerpt from 7/18/2023Minutes 5 Cavanaugh asked if it would make sense to say 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. or sunset, whichever is earlier. Scherer stated that these hours would be specific to the courts and noted that the courts are not lit, and people cannot play in the dark. He stated that the park hours are until sunset as people get up early and walk trails and do the same in the evenings. Martin referenced a question from a resident on the basis for the hour recommendation. Scherer stated that he met with a member of the Park Commission that has been tasked with research on this issue and his suggestion was 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. for three days per week and then until sundown for four days per week. He commented that he believed that would be complicated for users and therefore the 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. would provide the same playing hours. He noted that the representative from the Park Commission agreed it would be easier to have consistent hours each day of the week. Martin commented that it would seem appropriate to have some study of the level of noise to ensure the activity is not above the level set through ordinance. Anderson commented that he spoke with staff on this topic and referenced the comment from a resident about MPCA noise standards. He stated that he has also inquired whether WSB would have the instruments to complete that type of study. He noted that the MPCA has specific standards on how those levels are measured, providing additional details on that process. He believed that staff could work with an engineering firm to have that type of study completed if the Council desires. Martin recalled that when the MPCA evaluated noise standards decades ago there was a lot of public comment and long hearings on the topic. She stated that regulation has evolved in a sophisticated manner and believed the City should be able to determine if the activity is above the State standards and City ordinance. Anderson stated that the City does not have specific standards and relies on the MPCA noise standards. He commented that mitigation standards could be taken whether or not the standards are violated. Martin commented that noise impacts people in different ways and therefore it may be helpful to have the noise measurements as a baseline. Anderson commented that there are a lot of apps that people can download on their phones to measure sound but those are not calibrated to determine whether there is an actual violation. Moved by Cavanaugh, seconded by Martin, to direct staff to temporarily limit pickleball court use hours to 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and allow the Park Commission time to review noise reduction options and provide a recommendation to the Council. Further discussion: DesLauriers recognized that the Park Commission will be meeting the following night and asked if that feedback could be provided to the Council at its next meeting. Scherer commented that staff intends to bring some information back at that time. Martin noted that would most likely not allow sufficient time for a noise study to be completed. Medina City Council Excerpt from 7/18/2023Minutes 6 DesLauriers retracted his request. Albers asked if staff could also be directed to place a sign within a reasonable amount of time, such as one week, with the hours posted. Scherer confirmed that a temporary banner would be installed immediately, noting that staff would be working on that tomorrow morning. Martin recapped the motion as stated, with the addition to direct staff to post appropriately sized visible banners with the new hours of operation for the courts. Motion passed unanimously. From:Dusty Finke To:Lisa DeMars Subject:FW: Moving forward Date:Friday, September 15, 2023 7:30:34 AM Dusty Finke | Planning Director | City of Medina Direct: (763) 473-8846 • dusty.finke@medinamn.gov 2052 County Road 24 • Medina, MN • 55340 From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 12:54 PM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala <>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov> Subject: Moving forward Hello all, In response to Dusty's proposition for fencing around the pickleball courts on Hunter to hopefully, yet unproven, alleviate the noise of the pb courts, I ask that you take some time to dig into these articles and familiarize yourself with the information included. A quick analysis of the ESI report seems to indicate that the courts on Hunter are within MN standards. However, If you read the articles below on Noise Fundamentals and the current community standards, you will see that due to its impulse sound which is NOT accurately reflected on the ESI report, the courts will be above the current standards with the penalty applied (see Article from Science Direct below). Some current sound studies on other locations in the US have applied a 12 db penalty to accurately reflect the impulse noise pickleball creates. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022460X96900772 ·Annoyance penalty of impulsive noise – The effect of impulse onset 2020, Building and Environment Citation Excerpt : The measures are described in Fig. 1 where the A-weighted SPL time profile is analyzed with Fast time weighting, LAF. The method suggests that the sampling of LAF is made using 10–25 ms time window, which conforms with the suggestion of Rice [14]. The starting point of an impulse is the first point where the first order linear regression slope between two consecutive SPLs is over 10 dB/s. Impulsive sound can be perceived more annoying than a steady-state sound having the same A-weighted equivalent sound pressure level, LAeq. The difference in perceived noise annoyance can be compensated by adding a penalty or an adjustment k to LAeq (rating level). Many legislations apply a constant penalty value, such as 5 dB or more, but the validity of this procedure has been questioned. Nordtest method NT ACOU 112 identifies an impulse from the time profile of sound pressure level by using two measures describing the onset of an impulse: level difference (DL) and onset rate (Ron). The purpose of this study was to determine how the annoyance penalty depends on DL (5–40 dB) and Ron (5–800 dB/s) and to compare obtained results to the penalty prediction model of Nordtest method. A psychoacoustic laboratory experiment of 32 participants was conducted. Synthetic and periodic impulsive sounds were studied with two alternative spectra. The sounds were presented at 55 dB LAeq. Steady-state sounds at levels 49–70 dB were used to derive the penalty of impulsive sounds. The observed penalty values ranged between 0 and + 8 dB. The penalty values depended somewhat on spectrum. The penalty deviated from zero when DL > 10 dB or Ron > 15 dB/s and increased with increasing DL and Ron. The penalty predicted by Nordtest method usually overestimated the observed penalty when Ron ≥ 200 dB/s. The results are against constant penalty values and they can be used to develop future penalty schemes. In addition, Jan 2023 articles.... On sound barriers and effectiveness -> https://pickleballscience.org/pickleball-sound-barriers/ On noise and community standards NOT accurately reflecting impulse noise -> https://pickleballscience.org/pickleball-community-noise/ On Noise Fundamentals including accuracy of readings -> https://pickleballscience.org/acoustic- fundamentals/ ·Acoustic reflections off of adjacent barriers, nearby structures, and trees will provide a direct sound transmission path to the residence. ·Reverberations within the enclosed court will prolong the sound duration, cause echos, and amplify the impact noise like the soundbox of an acoustic guitar. ·Refraction by the atmosphere (i.e., inversion layers) can direct the sound downward towards the residence at certain times of the day. Acoustical engineers will therefore conservatively estimate that sound barriers such as those used on pickleball courts will provide only 10 dB of sound attenuation. Although a 10 dB reduction of sound level equates to a halving of the perceived loudness level, it is often not adequate to satisfy homeowners and communities. Furthermore, vinyl barriers that are hung on fences are prone to weathering and tearing and may not otherwise be suitable for use in high wind areas. I am requesting the following to be considered immediately: 1.A side by side quote on the actual costs of fully (including doors) enclosing the courts with a sound barrier with proven data of effectiveness (not just the claims from its manufacturer) VS an actual quote to move the nets and restriping of the courts to one of the tennis courts at Hamel Park. Until these numbers are actualized, there is NO way to know which is the most fiscally responsible use of taxpayers monies in rectifying this issue. No additional monies should be spent without knowing all the data possible at decision time. 2.The elevation of the homes along Hunter must include the 1st (not ground level) AND 2nd floor (bedrooms and additional living areas) spaces. These must be considered on the noise travel projections. Considering only the deck height is not enough for accuracy. Noise travels up as the articles illustrate and will go up and above the fencing line. 3.As Rohit Agwarla suggested in his email of 9/14/23, if the new pickleball (pb)courts are to be wrapped and no pb is allowed on the new tennis court, then it is clear the old tennis/pb court is now an issue. It seems in separate conversations with Steve and Dusty, that the old tennis/pb court is now staying even though the original Park plans that were presented to the public for comment, indicate it being removed. If it stays and pb is permitted to be played there, it must be also wrapped with fencing. Has this cost also been factored in? We cannot continue to do one thing one place and another not be included when the courts are in such close proximity. We already saw this error when hours were changed for the new courts and then pb players just went over to the old tennis/pb court to play after 8pm. Consistency all around must be in place. In conclusion, at what point does Medina stop spending time and money on efforts to appease the pb players and admit an error of location was made? The description of this Park on our own City of Medina website states: HUNTER LIONS PARK Location: This park is located at 3195 Hunter Drive in the Hunter Farms subdivision. Description: This neighborhood park is 6.8 acres in size and mainly serves the residential properties south of Hamel Road along Hunter Drive. If this park is designated to serve our neighborhood, then WHY is pb being allowed here when it is a known fact that players are from all over Plymouth and the surrounding areas. This is slated as a small residential park and now is being used by non Medina residents for a sport attracting hundreds daily. Meanwhile, the courts and park space at the 40 acre Hamel Park sit unused a majority of the day. The need to jam in one of the most highly controversial sports, with NO indication of any research from the City administrators into its potential effects on the surrounding residents, into a tiny residential park is unacceptable and frankly unnecessary. As I stated in my speech to the City Council on 7/18/23, the City Code Book of Medina has outlined this in Section 330.01 Public Nuisance Defined. It states a nuisance as “a situation that maintains or permits a condition which unreasonably annoys, injures or endangers the safety, health, morals, comfort or repose of any considerable number of members of the public”. In addition, the 2022 MN Statute 609.74 Public Nuisance maintains the same wording. It is followed by Statute 609.745 stating that “whoever having control of real property permits it to be used to maintain a public nuisance or lets the same knowing it will be so used is guilty of a misdemeanor.” MN Private nuisance laws are defined formally as anything “injurious to health, indecent or offensive to the senses, or an obstruction to the free use of property, so as to interfere with the comfortable enjoyment of life or property. Read that last sentence again please. This is a nuisance to your constituents...no question. This must be rectified immediately. Do the proper analysis of the abundance of articles on pb and its effects, run the numbers but most importantly... listen to your residents who deal with this situation every day. If you would spend an entire day in one of our homes...you would realize the egregiousness of the decision to put pb at Hunter Park. Standing courtside for 15 minutes is not an accurate analysis. Relying on a noise study with insufficient metrics is also not accurate. As I write this, my back door is closed, no windows are open and there are 2 pb games going on. I can hear the popping sounds of the ball in the front office space of my home. This is an unwelcome intrusion to our lives that should have never happened yet can be fixed. Please move the pb courts to Hamel Park. Cathy -----Original Message----- From: Rohit Agarwala <> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 10:38 AM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov> Cc: Kate Agarwala <>; Cathy Carr <>; Brian Kirkendall<> Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park - Pickleball courts Hello, First, I think the correct solution to this problem remains with relocation of the courts, even if this may not be the easy choice. These courts are simply too close to homes. I am doubtful sound barriers will fully solve the problem. If the council pursues sound barriers, I echo Cathy's points in her email. 1. Are there actual examples of the chosen barrier being installed successfully? I can't find any instances of installing the Soundblock 850 on pickleball courts. We can't just take their word for it that it will help. Successful past installations and professional analysis should be used to increase confidence. 2. In reviewing the Soundblock 850, they do not give a specification of attenuation between 1-2kHz which is where pickleball noise is. The specific target frequency is 1.2kHz. This number should be known with all the barrier options being investigated. 3. The math should be reviewed to make sure the top of homes are protected. You'd need the distance from court to both the barrier and home, along with the heights of the barrier and home at the same elevation. 4. It is unclear if the intent is to put barriers around both tennis and pickleball, or just pickleball. If just pickleball, then signage would need to be updated to say no pickleball allowed on the tennis court. If both, it is more likely to fail item 3 above due to the distance between court and barrier being so high. 5. Make sure the install instructions are followed, and done by a professional installer. I doubt we can just buy these from the internet, install ourselves, and have a positive outcome. 6. If the intent is to install in the spring, will the courts be closed throughout winter and spring until the installation is complete? Regarding hours changing to sunset, I have concerns because I don't believe the barrier will completely solve the problem. Also, can you please redact my (and Kate's) email address from any packet? I have seen other packets that include email addresses of other citizens that then become public. Thank you, Rohit Agarwala On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:57 PM Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov> wrote: > > Hi Kate, > I apologize that I overlooked the 7/5 Council minutes, I will add those as well. > We have not chosen the specific brand of acoustical barrier as of yet. > We have a cost estimate on one type (Soundblock 850) but want to do > some more research to see if there are more effective. The intent would be to install in the spring The initial thought was with the sound mitigation, for hours to be 8 a.m.-sunset through the year. > My best, > Dusty Finke | Planning Director | City of Medina Direct: (763) 473-8846 • dusty.finke@medinamn.gov 2052 County Road 24 • Medina, MN • 55340 > From: Kate Agarwala <> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:55 AM > To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Cathy Carr > ; rohit; Brian Kirkendall<> > Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park - Pickleball courts > > Hi Dusty, > > Thank you for the information. Will the new hours of 8 am-sunset be for the fall as the sun is setting earlier and then go back to 8 am-8 pm in the spring and summer as they days get longer again? > > What type of acoustical barrier is staff recommending? If the recommendation passes through the park commission and City Council when will it be installed? > > Brian, Crinny, and I spoke at the July 5th City Council meeting. Can those minutes also be shared in the packet with the other minutes? > > Thanks, > Kate ________________________________ > From: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:36 AM > To: Cathy Carr <; Kate Agarwala<><rohit>; Brian Kirkendall<> > Subject: Hunter Lions Park - Pickleball courts > > Hi Cathy, Kate, Rohit, and Brian, > > I wanted to let you know that the Park Commission is scheduled to discuss the pickleball courts at Hunter Lions Park next Wednesday (9/20). > > Staff intends to recommend installation of acoustical barrier and hours for the pickleball and tennis courts at the northeast corner of the park to be 8 a.m. to sunset. > > We were planning to provide your email correspondence and the minutes from the June 21 Park Commission and July 18 City Council meetings for review as well. > > If you would like to provide any additional comments to go out with the packet, I would need them before 7 a.m. on Friday. If you would like to provide comments after that, we can email them to the Park Commission prior to the meeting for their consideration. > > Have a good day! > > Dusty Finke | Planning Director | City of Medina Direct: (763) 473-8846 • dusty.finke@medinamn.gov 2052 County Road 24 • Medina, MN • 55340 1 From:Rohit Agarwala <> Sent:Friday, July 7, 2023 12:45 PM To:Steve Scherer Cc:Kathleen Martin; Dino Deslauriers; Todd Albers; Robin Reid; Joseph Cavanaugh; Scott Johnson Subject:Hunter Park Pickleball hours Hi Steve, This past Wednesday night you men oned you were going to talk with Park Commissioners regarding a change of hours at Hunter Park. I spent some me reviewing the schedules other ci es around the US have been using based on similar noise problems they are having. Most of the courts have se led at less than 40 hours of allowed play per week. The majority of them also include at least 1 day off per week. The two main ideas I see are longer days with more days off, and shorter days with less days off. Based on my analysis, I have come up with some sugges ons that Medina could consider. I am happy to share the links I used and the analysis sheet if you would like. 1.9‐5 M, W, F; 10‐4 Sat, Sun; Closed T, Th. Total hours 36 2.9‐4 M, T, Th, F; 10‐3 Sat, Sun; Closed W. Total hours 38 3.9‐7 M, W, F; 10‐1 Sat, Closed T, Th, Sun. Total hours 33 Item 3 is an actual implemented solu on in Vienna, VA. It does allow for more evening play. These hours are in line with what other ci es have implemented. It would allow affected households some quiet in the morning and evening, as well as some outdoor family me for kids to play. Hopefully soon we can arrive at a long‐term solu on that works for both neighbors and players. Thank you, Rohit Agarwala 3241 Bu ernut Drive 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Sunday, June 18, 2023 2:51 PM To:Kathleen Martin Cc:Brian Kirkendall; Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kate Agarwala; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Re: Hunter Lions Park new courts Attachments:IMG_2070.HEIC; IMG_2074.HEIC; IMG_0.MOV; IMG_0.MOV Another video for reference. This is on my deck at 2:15 today. It is important to know this is only ONE court playing at this video being shot. I will continue to record like this to illustrate the nuisance these courts have created. Cathy Carr 3201 Butternut Dr, Medina, MN 55340 On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 1:39 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Copying in key city staff and the rest of our council, but the message would not go through with all the pictures. Cathy, could you try to send the pictures agin in a smaller format? Thanks. On Jun 17, 2023, at 12:41 PM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: Good morning all! I'm giving a Saturday status report here... 1.Courts have been occupied since about 8am. First there was just a tennis match which I sent a video below of to reference the sound difference between only 1 court in use and 2 players vs. the sounds of even 1 court of pickle ball and 4 players. 2.Also attached is a picture and video of the dog chained up to the fence barking while its owners played. This has been going on for at least an hour. Are we as neighbors supposed to go over and handle? 3.My husband and I just came back from an hour walk at Hamel Legion Park. While there, only 1 of the tennis courts was occupied for the last 15 minutes of our walk. Meanwhile, over on the new courts, both tennis courts (old and new) in use and 3 pickleball courts used. Over at Hamel Park, the baseball fields were empty except for a few people, and the parking lot had about 4 cars in it. It was pretty much empty and very quiet as opposed to the sounds we hear when we get home in our own backyard. Also noted are the massive trees surrounding the Hamel courts to the West and South sides. Picture below to show. If trees can get planted there where there are NO neighbors, why can we not have similar planted for us to the East of the new courts? I look forward to your visit Monday evening and thought I'd share this now so you are aware of one thing I hope to discuss. 2 Cathy On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 2:10 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Thank you. From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2023 1:44 PM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Kate Agarwala <>; Brian Kirkendall <> Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park new courts Sure, no problem. See you then. Cathy & Greg Carr On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 1:39 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy. May I invite anther council person to join us at your house on Monday at 6:30? Due to public meeting laws, I can only have one other person present but I think it would help to have two of us understand the issues. From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2023 9:34 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Kate Agarwala <>; Brian Kirkendall <> Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park new courts Feel free to check it out from my house too (3201 Butternut) if you're here but I would still like you to see what it's like in the evening as it's much busier (translation...louder). 3 Thank you for your time! Cathy On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 9:31 AM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: And maybe I’ll drive by Kate’s house tomorrow morning at about 7:30 (I have an 8:30 exercise class in Plymouth so I hope it’s ok I arrive in gym clothes with messy hair!). Kate, tell me which house is yours as I’m driving up hunter. I have your address, but I’ll just park along Hunter and then walk up to your back patio (unless you are near the wetland). On Jun 15, 2023, at 8:00 AM, Kate Agarwala <> wrote: Thank you so much for your attention to this issue; it is appreciated! How about a morning between 7‐8 for what appears to be league play? My son has an early morning camp next week, but the week after works. I can reach out at the end of next week to coordinate a day if you are still interested after heading to Cathy's on Monday. Thank you again, Kate 3241 Butternut Drive From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 10:12 PM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Brian Kirkendall <>; Kate Agarwala <> Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park new courts That works for me! 4 Cathy On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 10:09 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: How about next Monday, June 19? From: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2023 10:01 PM To: Cathy Carr <> Cc: Brian Kirkendall <>; Kate Agarwala <> Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park new courts Let me check my schedule —maybe sometime early next week? On Jun 14, 2023, at 9:53 PM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: Yes, of course! We’d love to have you over around 6 or 7 pm to experience the “after work crowd”. Let me know what day works for you and thank you for your quick response! Cathy & Greg Carr 3201 Butternut Dr, Medina, MN 55340 On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 9:09 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Thank you all for your comments and input on the new pickleball courts. I’m wondering if I could stop by one or more of your homes at times that are most impactful to your families so I can appreciate what you are experiencing. 5 If any of you are amenable to that, please let me know when I might stop by and please do give me your address and contact phone number once again! ‐Kathy Martin Mayor of Medina The linked imagedisplayed. The fibeen mov ed, rendeleted. Verify thpoints to the corrlocation. The linked imagedisplayed. The fibeen mov ed, rendeleted. Verify thpoints to the corrlocation. 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Thursday, June 22, 2023 1:28 PM To:Steve Scherer Cc:Kathleen Martin; Scott Johnson Subject:Re: Pickle Ball Thanks for the information Steve. So to be clear on my request earlier, were any acoustic studies performed or considered during the planning process regarding the impact to surroundings particularly with regard to the game of pickleball? As this was a new activity for the park and its neighbors, I wonder if those were taken into consideration. I am also a bit disappointed to hear that the entire baseball field was shifted to accommodate the minimal (maybe 10 a season) games played there every baseball season. If those parents/players can request such a change and be heard, why are the voices of myself and the others not also given that consideration? Baseball season is short and games are short. The 4 courts we are discussing have the potential to be used from April ‐ October. 7 days a week, 15 hours a day. Cathy Carr On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 1:06 PM Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> wrote: For everyone’s knowledge below was the processes the city used when re‐designing the Hunter Park , it is off our website. The pickleball courts were pushed to the west side of the tennis courts to keep them roughly the same distance from the neighbors on the west side of the park . The ballfield was orientated as it is to keep the sun out of the eyes of the ball players just as are the courts north south layout. The Park commission discussed this last night and want to continue to monitor things. A couple of the commissioners are going to chat with the players to get input and find out if they are residents of Medina. The team will also witness the noise levels for themselves. The commission wants to stay the original course and plan to evaluate more and discuss there findings at the next meeting. Steve Scherer 2 Steve Scherer | Public Works Director | City of Medina Direct: (763) 473‐8842 • Fax: (763) 473‐9359 • steve.scherer@medinamn.gov 2052 County Road 24 • Medina, MN • 55340 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Monday, June 26, 2023 5:15 PM To:Kate Agarwala Cc:Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kathleen Martin; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Re: Articles regarding noise & pickleball courts Attachments:IMG_0.MOV; IMG_0.MOV Still going strong at 5pm. This is a different group of 2 courts playing with 8 people. Please listen to the attached videos for what is currently happening right off my deck. You can clearly hear conversations and the pickle ball sounds even over the sound of a car passing. This is the reason why it is impossible now to enjoy our deck on a nice summer evening. The games and subsequent sounds from them will most likely continue until about 9:30 tonight. This is not ok. Cathy Carr On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 1:18 PM Kate Agarwala <> wrote: Thank you for sharing this video. The noise penetrating our house this morning was among the worst I've heard. Kate Agarwala From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:22 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Brian Kirkendall <>; Crinny Kirkendall <>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala <>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Articles regarding noise & pickleball courts A sample of sounds today at 9:20am. 2 pickle ball courts in use by 8 people. Cathy Carr On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 2:11 PM Cathy Carr <> wrote: Hello all, I did not see this happen but wanted to make you aware that tracks were made in the field this morning. 2 3 Please see attached photo. Cathy Carr On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:08 AM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Correction: I told you I did not know if studies were conducted. On Jun 22, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Thank you for the additional information. On Jun 22, 2023, at 9:28 AM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: Mayor Martin and others, As I mentioned to Mayor Martin and Mr. Albers on Monday evening, I have attached a small sample of articles and videos found online all related to the effects of pickleball on a community. In these articles you will find a litany of complaints from residents on the noise and effects on the residents nearby. Also you will find acoustical studies and recommendations on distance from residents. It appears NO studies were done by Medina before deciding on the current location. Mayor Martin told me this directly in our chat Monday evening. In addition to that statement, she had no knowledge of any articles related to any issues other communities are having. There are articles I've found below going back as far as 2016 related to this. I am trying to understand how an investment in our town was made with zero sound studies or consideration for residents. If you have in fact done the studies, I'd be interested in reading the findings and believe this should be shared with myself and my neighbors who are sending emails regarding this matter. The fact that no one from the City has once referenced them seems to indicate the proper pre‐work was NOT done. I kindly ask that you take the time to read through and watch the videos below to properly assess the similarities. The statements made by almost every resident in the articles/videos cited mimic exactly the issues we are having. It's quite clear this is not an Enclave Resident only issue. https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/11/business/pickleball‐sports‐noise‐complaints‐ tennis‐ctpr/index.html https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022‐03‐03/pickleball‐noise‐fueling‐ neighborhood‐ drama#:~:text=Extended%20exposure%20to%2080%2Ddecibel,it%20does%2C%E2% 80%9D%20he%20said. 4 https://masspickleballguide.com/sport/pickleball‐noise‐ impact/#:~:text=Pickleball%20noise%20in%20decibels,than%2090%20can%20be%20 harmful. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/next‐with‐kyle‐clark/pickleball‐ noise‐divides‐neighbors‐and‐players/73‐8beb759c‐c19f‐40f2‐83f3‐ e09d0753242a#:~:text=City%20ordinance%20only%20allows%20for,Deputy%20Dire ctor%20Scott%20Gilmore%20said. https://www.arlnow.com/2022/11/30/exclusive‐more‐residents‐are‐threatening‐ legal‐action‐because‐of‐pickleball‐noise/ https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law‐and‐life/what‐can‐you‐do‐about‐pickleball‐ noise/ https://picklevine.com/how‐far‐does‐pickleball‐noise‐ travel/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%20from%20Spendiarian,sounds%20wit h%20the%20greatest%20clarity. https://www.acousticalnoise.com/noise‐control/why‐are‐your‐pickleball‐courts‐ receiving‐complaints‐from‐neighbors/ https://hoalaw.tinnellylaw.com/amp/pickleball‐installation/ https://www.theflipsidecommunications.com/we‐are‐opposing‐pickle‐ball‐ expansion‐in‐our‐neighborhood/ https://crazypickleballlady.com/2021/06/07/respecting‐our‐neighbors‐creating‐a‐ quieter‐pickleball‐environment/ Video regarding sound of tennis v pickleball: https://crazypickleballlady.com/2021/06/07/respecting‐our‐neighbors‐ creating‐a‐quieter‐pickleball‐environment/ Video from 2016 of resident issues of nearby courts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pij‐t8gAJtQ Video of how pickleball is louder than tennis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQoY_hOpMo San Diego Union Tribune June 2022 The average noise level coming from a pickleball court is measured around 70 decibels at about 100 feet away from the court. This reduces to 64 decibels when measured at 200 feet away from the court. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration prescribes that noise exposure becomes dangerous when an individual is exposed to 90 decibels or greater for eight hours or more. For comparison, typical ambient neighborhood noise is about 45 decibels and average 5 conversation is around 60 decibels. So is pickleball noise dangerous? No. Does pickleball add noise to the environment? Yes. Star Tribune article from March 2019 in Apple Valley: https://www.startribune.com/apple‐valley‐neighbors‐in‐a‐pickle‐over‐ pickleball‐noise/507726242/ Lance Willis, an acoustical engineer from Arizona, has prepared many noise abatement plans for pickleball courts in states such as California and Idaho. He typically recommends prefabricated concrete walls around the ball courts, at a cost of about $100 a foot, though other wall systems and fencing can also muffle sound. Some other methods, such as using sound-deadening paddles or balls, would require enforcement to work. Willis also suggests that pickleball courts be located at least 150 feet from residences. Article and excerpt below of July 2021 article in NJ town: https://projects.nj.com/pickleball/ If you dig deep into the whole kerfuffle, you likely will find the pickleball complainers actually have recent history on their side. In fact, you could argue the original sin in Ridgewood is that no one in leadership studied pickleball enough to know where to put the courts. If members of the Village Council had done some Googling beforehand, they would have seen that pickleball noise complaints are nothing new. Just over the past five years, sound disputes have been documented in Berkeley, California; Punta Gorda, Florida; Rockford, Illinois; Woodbury, Minnesota; Miami and, now, Ridgewood, New Jersey. In fact, in Punta Gorda, a man who lived across the street from pickleball courts said the noise caused him to suffer a stroke. “Nothing was ever discussed with the neighbors about putting in the courts,” Kling said. “It was fait accompli.” Will Thornton, who runs an acoustics and vibrations consulting company in Pittsburgh, said “the fight over this and the viciousness of this is not unique. This has become a really common community noise problem.” Thornton said the main issue is pickleball is such a new sport that most communities haven’t properly vetted where to build courts or realized the noise generated by the game is greater than tennis. “Fundamentally the structure of a pickleball racquet, and pickleball itself, emits noises that are louder and have tonality — frequency 6 content — that is more problematic,” he said. “The sound emitted by pickleball, it’s staccato, constant ringing, basically. And it happens to emit noise, sound that is roughly in the center of human audiological hearing acuity. So, basically, the frequencies, the tones that we’re most sensitive to.” Thornton said the proper distance between courts and residential areas “can easily be hundreds of feet.” In Ridgewood, roughly a half-dozen houses are less than a hundred feet or so from the court I welcome your thoughts on any of the information above. I am also interested in your site work preparation in order to determine that Hunter Park was the best option available. Hunter Park is already utilized for basketball, tennis, baseball, cricket, a playground and volleyball. It is a 6.8 acre park with limited parking and no restrooms. My home is 104 +‐ feet from the new courts. I don't believe any resident is as close to any court over in the larger Hamel Park. Hamel Park has similar amenities yet provides restrooms, ample parking and is 40 acres. Not only that it already has tree sound barriers around the 2 tennis courts. Has it occurred to anyone that before the courts went in that noise complaints from Hunter Park were a non‐ issue? Since they were installed, I know of 6 neighbors that have either written or contacted the city regarding noise. These courts are well used as you can see. The issue is they are in a bad location. The relocation of the pickleball to the larger park alleviates every issue we are complaining about. Please consider switching the Hamel tennis courts and the Hunter pickleball courts. Infrastructure is already in place. I'm looking for help and some information. I know I'm not the only one asking this. Please listen to your taxpayers most affected by this. It is not taking anything away from the community to move the courts. There will still be pickleball available as well as tennis for all to enjoy! Cathy Carr 3201 Butternut Drive Medina, MN 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Tuesday, June 27, 2023 3:05 PM To:Steve Scherer Subject:Re: Parking at Hunter Park Great. Thanks! Cathy On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 3:01 PM Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> wrote: I mean go into your neighborhood and listen to what you are listening to when people are playing pickleball . I have the article. From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 2:52 PM To: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala <>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Cc: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Parking at Hunter Park Great. Thanks Steve! I don’t know what “listen to the noise level on your street” encompasses however I’d ask that you read the article below as it references sound and studies done. https://www.acousticalnoise.com/noise‐control/why‐are‐your‐pickleball‐courts‐receiving‐complaints‐from‐neighbors/ Cathy On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 2:25 PM Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> wrote: 2 Hi Cathy, at least one I think two Park commissioners were going to listen to the noise level on your street, and also look at the existing landscape . I think from a staff prospective we are looking at options for either sound or visual screening so when we get back together we can have an idea of what options are available and what might be the cost of these mitigation items. Steve Scherer From: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 11:38 AM To: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Subject: FW: Parking at Hunter Park Hi Steve, Please respond to question from Cathy Carr. Thanks Scott From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 11:25 AM To: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Cc: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala <>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Parking at Hunter Park Quick follow up question…are the options you are discussing to address the visual aspect or noise disturbances? Cathy On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 11:13 AM Cathy Carr <> wrote: Thank you for the update. 3 Cathy On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 10:56 AM Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy, As Mayor Martin said we continue to gather information on the courts and the Park Commission will discuss options at a future meeting (as they discussed at their June 21st meeting). These changes will more than likely include hours of use and possible screening. Public Works Director Steve Scherer has reached out to your HOA to look into possible screening options. We will keep gathering comments both positive and negative. This information will be shared by Public Works Director Steve Scherer with the Park Commission. Scott Johnson City of Medina From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 9:56 AM To: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala <>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Parking at Hunter Park Hello again. This morning as 3 pickle ball courts were in use, this was the parking lot. Not even full capacity of the courts. I am curious where the additional vehicles will park when a baseball game is scheduled or even other park users. That could be upwards of 20 more cars to park in this lot. It seems most players drive to this location and maybe once a week there’s a player that arrives by bicycle. Cathy Carr 4 5 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:25 AM To:Kate Agarwala Cc:Kathleen Martin; Dino Deslauriers; Robin Reid; Todd Albers; Joseph Cavanaugh; Steve Scherer; Scott Johnson; Dusty Finke Subject:Re: Pickle ball court violations 6/27/23 Here's a picture of the group. I find it hard to believe this is NOT league play as they all showed up at the same time and have been rotating players in and out all morning since arrival at 8am. The noise from this group is quite loud. I hope someone can take time out to visit the courts and check if they are all residents as the sign clearly states they should be. Can you also advise on when the last check of id's was? It has been mentioned as an issue but we (as residents) have not heard in any meetings the results of these checks...if they have been done. Thank you for listening. Cathy On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:18 AM Kate Agarwala <> wrote: Good morning, It might also be a good time to remind players who miss the parking lot that our backyards are not to be used for U‐turns. This morning around 8:30, a red convertible missed the parking lot, pulled over in my backyard to 2 let a car pass, and then did a U‐turn. They then pulled into the parking lot and walked to the pickleball courts. Thank you, Kate From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:09 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Pickle ball court violations 6/27/23 Sorry! Here's the video I meant to send with the last email Cathy IMG_3499.MOV On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:07 AM Cathy Carr <> wrote: Hello again. This is the group I mentioned in the previous email about a potential league taking place as well as possible non‐Medina residents. There are people waiting outside the fencing and rotating in to play. This is why it seems to be a league. Please listen to the sound level taken just now from my deck. Cathy Carr On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:35 AM Cathy Carr <> wrote: Good Morning all. Just a heads up..looks like league play right now at the courts. Apparently a large group was also there yesterday at this time too. Maybe now would be a good opportunity to check and see how many are Medina residents? Just a thought to follow up on that concern. Thanks for your consideration. Cathy Carr On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:04 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Please call the police if you witness further violations. On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: Hello all, I am writing to inform you of a crowd last night that was in clear violation of the rules posted on the pickleball courts on Hunter. As frustrating as it was to hear this crowd play at 6 pm for a long while, 3 I did not realize until it was pointed out to me today, that they were in violation of the clearly marked Rules. I am attaching pictures of the sign and its Rules as well as the group violating the following: Prohibited items: Outside chairs Spectators must remain outside fence Can you clarify the statement posted in BOLD on the sign: "If players do not respect occupancy, courts will be closed and locked". Who and what determines this? Thanks for any information you can provide. Cathy Carr 3201 Butternut Dr, Medina, MN 55340 <IMG_0821.jpeg> <IMG_2305.HEIC> 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Wednesday, July 12, 2023 9:37 AM To:Crinny Kirkendall; Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kate Agarwala; Kathleen Martin; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Replay this please Attachments:IMG_0.MOV Good morning! For those of you reading this email, I’d ask you to play this video ALL day in the background of your work day. Start it at 7 am and play until 9:30 pm. This is what it’s like to experience living by these courts in Hunter Park. I am asking for relief from this, the use of my yard back and the ability to open my windows and not hear this all day. Again, has anyone checked for ids on the courts to ensure they are all residents? Another opportunity exists now to do this. Cathy Carr 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Monday, June 26, 2023 5:15 PM To:Kate Agarwala Cc:Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kathleen Martin; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Re: Articles regarding noise & pickleball courts Attachments:IMG_0.MOV; IMG_0.MOV Still going strong at 5pm. This is a different group of 2 courts playing with 8 people. Please listen to the attached videos for what is currently happening right off my deck. You can clearly hear conversations and the pickle ball sounds even over the sound of a car passing. This is the reason why it is impossible now to enjoy our deck on a nice summer evening. The games and subsequent sounds from them will most likely continue until about 9:30 tonight. This is not ok. Cathy Carr On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 1:18 PM Kate Agarwala <> wrote: Thank you for sharing this video. The noise penetrating our house this morning was among the worst I've heard. Kate Agarwala From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:22 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Brian Kirkendall <>; Crinny Kirkendall <; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala >; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Articles regarding noise & pickleball courts A sample of sounds today at 9:20am. 2 pickle ball courts in use by 8 people. Cathy Carr On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 2:11 PM Cathy Carr > wrote: Hello all, I did not see this happen but wanted to make you aware that tracks were made in the field this morning. 2 3 Please see attached photo. Cathy Carr On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:08 AM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Correction: I told you I did not know if studies were conducted. On Jun 22, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Thank you for the additional information. On Jun 22, 2023, at 9:28 AM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: Mayor Martin and others, As I mentioned to Mayor Martin and Mr. Albers on Monday evening, I have attached a small sample of articles and videos found online all related to the effects of pickleball on a community. In these articles you will find a litany of complaints from residents on the noise and effects on the residents nearby. Also you will find acoustical studies and recommendations on distance from residents. It appears NO studies were done by Medina before deciding on the current location. Mayor Martin told me this directly in our chat Monday evening. In addition to that statement, she had no knowledge of any articles related to any issues other communities are having. There are articles I've found below going back as far as 2016 related to this. I am trying to understand how an investment in our town was made with zero sound studies or consideration for residents. If you have in fact done the studies, I'd be interested in reading the findings and believe this should be shared with myself and my neighbors who are sending emails regarding this matter. The fact that no one from the City has once referenced them seems to indicate the proper pre‐work was NOT done. I kindly ask that you take the time to read through and watch the videos below to properly assess the similarities. The statements made by almost every resident in the articles/videos cited mimic exactly the issues we are having. It's quite clear this is not an Enclave Resident only issue. https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/11/business/pickleball‐sports‐noise‐complaints‐ tennis‐ctpr/index.html https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022‐03‐03/pickleball‐noise‐fueling‐ neighborhood‐ drama#:~:text=Extended%20exposure%20to%2080%2Ddecibel,it%20does%2C%E2% 80%9D%20he%20said. 4 https://masspickleballguide.com/sport/pickleball‐noise‐ impact/#:~:text=Pickleball%20noise%20in%20decibels,than%2090%20can%20be%20 harmful. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/next‐with‐kyle‐clark/pickleball‐ noise‐divides‐neighbors‐and‐players/73‐8beb759c‐c19f‐40f2‐83f3‐ e09d0753242a#:~:text=City%20ordinance%20only%20allows%20for,Deputy%20Dire ctor%20Scott%20Gilmore%20said. https://www.arlnow.com/2022/11/30/exclusive‐more‐residents‐are‐threatening‐ legal‐action‐because‐of‐pickleball‐noise/ https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law‐and‐life/what‐can‐you‐do‐about‐pickleball‐ noise/ https://picklevine.com/how‐far‐does‐pickleball‐noise‐ travel/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%20from%20Spendiarian,sounds%20wit h%20the%20greatest%20clarity. https://www.acousticalnoise.com/noise‐control/why‐are‐your‐pickleball‐courts‐ receiving‐complaints‐from‐neighbors/ https://hoalaw.tinnellylaw.com/amp/pickleball‐installation/ https://www.theflipsidecommunications.com/we‐are‐opposing‐pickle‐ball‐ expansion‐in‐our‐neighborhood/ https://crazypickleballlady.com/2021/06/07/respecting‐our‐neighbors‐creating‐a‐ quieter‐pickleball‐environment/ Video regarding sound of tennis v pickleball: https://crazypickleballlady.com/2021/06/07/respecting‐our‐neighbors‐ creating‐a‐quieter‐pickleball‐environment/ Video from 2016 of resident issues of nearby courts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pij‐t8gAJtQ Video of how pickleball is louder than tennis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQoY_hOpMo San Diego Union Tribune June 2022 The average noise level coming from a pickleball court is measured around 70 decibels at about 100 feet away from the court. This reduces to 64 decibels when measured at 200 feet away from the court. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration prescribes that noise exposure becomes dangerous when an individual is exposed to 90 decibels or greater for eight hours or more. For comparison, typical ambient neighborhood noise is about 45 decibels and average 5 conversation is around 60 decibels. So is pickleball noise dangerous? No. Does pickleball add noise to the environment? Yes. Star Tribune article from March 2019 in Apple Valley: https://www.startribune.com/apple‐valley‐neighbors‐in‐a‐pickle‐over‐ pickleball‐noise/507726242/ Lance Willis, an acoustical engineer from Arizona, has prepared many noise abatement plans for pickleball courts in states such as California and Idaho. He typically recommends prefabricated concrete walls around the ball courts, at a cost of about $100 a foot, though other wall systems and fencing can also muffle sound. Some other methods, such as using sound-deadening paddles or balls, would require enforcement to work. Willis also suggests that pickleball courts be located at least 150 feet from residences. Article and excerpt below of July 2021 article in NJ town: https://projects.nj.com/pickleball/ If you dig deep into the whole kerfuffle, you likely will find the pickleball complainers actually have recent history on their side. In fact, you could argue the original sin in Ridgewood is that no one in leadership studied pickleball enough to know where to put the courts. If members of the Village Council had done some Googling beforehand, they would have seen that pickleball noise complaints are nothing new. Just over the past five years, sound disputes have been documented in Berkeley, California; Punta Gorda, Florida; Rockford, Illinois; Woodbury, Minnesota; Miami and, now, Ridgewood, New Jersey. In fact, in Punta Gorda, a man who lived across the street from pickleball courts said the noise caused him to suffer a stroke. “Nothing was ever discussed with the neighbors about putting in the courts,” Kling said. “It was fait accompli.” Will Thornton, who runs an acoustics and vibrations consulting company in Pittsburgh, said “the fight over this and the viciousness of this is not unique. This has become a really common community noise problem.” Thornton said the main issue is pickleball is such a new sport that most communities haven’t properly vetted where to build courts or realized the noise generated by the game is greater than tennis. “Fundamentally the structure of a pickleball racquet, and pickleball itself, emits noises that are louder and have tonality — frequency 6 content — that is more problematic,” he said. “The sound emitted by pickleball, it’s staccato, constant ringing, basically. And it happens to emit noise, sound that is roughly in the center of human audiological hearing acuity. So, basically, the frequencies, the tones that we’re most sensitive to.” Thornton said the proper distance between courts and residential areas “can easily be hundreds of feet.” In Ridgewood, roughly a half-dozen houses are less than a hundred feet or so from the court I welcome your thoughts on any of the information above. I am also interested in your site work preparation in order to determine that Hunter Park was the best option available. Hunter Park is already utilized for basketball, tennis, baseball, cricket, a playground and volleyball. It is a 6.8 acre park with limited parking and no restrooms. My home is 104 +‐ feet from the new courts. I don't believe any resident is as close to any court over in the larger Hamel Park. Hamel Park has similar amenities yet provides restrooms, ample parking and is 40 acres. Not only that it already has tree sound barriers around the 2 tennis courts. Has it occurred to anyone that before the courts went in that noise complaints from Hunter Park were a non‐ issue? Since they were installed, I know of 6 neighbors that have either written or contacted the city regarding noise. These courts are well used as you can see. The issue is they are in a bad location. The relocation of the pickleball to the larger park alleviates every issue we are complaining about. Please consider switching the Hamel tennis courts and the Hunter pickleball courts. Infrastructure is already in place. I'm looking for help and some information. I know I'm not the only one asking this. Please listen to your taxpayers most affected by this. It is not taking anything away from the community to move the courts. There will still be pickleball available as well as tennis for all to enjoy! Cathy Carr 3201 Butternut Drive Medina, MN 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Thursday, July 13, 2023 11:01 AM To:Kathleen Martin; Todd Albers; Dino Deslauriers; Joseph Cavanaugh; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Dusty Finke; Steve Scherer Subject:Another article regarding nuisances of courts Good Morning. I'd like you to take a minute to read another article. Judge Issues Preliminary Injunction Closing Pickleball Courts – Falmouth MA In 2019 the city of Falmouth spent $310,000 to convert one tennis court and one basketball court into 5 pickleball courts. On 1-04-2022 neighbors filed a complaint in Superior Court alleging failure of the Zoning Board to enforce the town bylaws against nuisances. The neighboring homes ranged between 40 and 350 feet from the new courts. The complaint included a copy of the acoustical engineer’s report paid for by the neighbors. The complaint also noted that the City had declined a 2021 recommendation from the Recreation Department to install a $50,000 noise mitigating wall. On 9-12-2022 Plaintiffs moved for a preliminary injunction to halt pickleball pending resolution of the suit. A hearing was held on 9-29-2022 and on 9-30-2022 the judge wrote his decision: “The plaintiffs have established a likelihood of success that they would suffer irreparable harm if the injunction is not issued, that the plaintiffs' claimed injuries outweigh the defendants harm, and that the injunction would not harm the public interest. Therefore the preliminary injunction is ALLOWED. UPON THE PAYMENT OF $90.00, the preliminary injunction will be issued to plaintiffs.” On 10-6-2022 the judge issued the formal Order for Preliminary Injunction stating that the city is “hereby enjoined and restrained from allowing the use of the courts located at the Lawrence Middle School for playing pickleball until further order of this court”. Neighbors have also submitted an amended complaint seeking money damages for Nuisance and Infliction of Emotional Distress, as well as attorney fees. The city website has now posted a copy of the Order for Preliminary Injunction on its website and announced temporary closure of the courts. Tennis & Pickleball Courts | Falmouth, MA (falmouthma.gov) Hundreds of articles such as these are all over the internet and have been for years back as far as 2012 and noise issues brought on by the location of courts too close to neighborhoods. The recommendations are that courts should be built no closer than 500-600 feet from houses. My home is 100 feet from the courts. I am curious how much research was done by the company hired (with our taxpayer monies) and by you, our elected officials, on the issues we are all currently facing. This is NOT a new issue as the plethora of articles online clearly indicate. A simple search online is all it takes. Please consider moving the pickleball courts to the Hamel Park existing tennis courts. Restriping and net placement seems to be a cheaper alternative to this ongoing conversation. How much time are we all collectively spending on evaluation, discussion, reading, etc? At some point, the costs involved in constant discussion of this could pay for the relocation efforts. 2 I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Cathy Carr 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Friday, July 14, 2023 7:07 AM To:Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kathleen Martin; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:7 am Attachments:image_50739713.JPG It is now 7am and the courts are FULL with pickle ball players. Every court has 4 players. We need the hours changed immediately. My family should not have to wake up to the sound of the ball pinging and players voices. We have lost the right to sleep with windows open due to this. If it is too early to cut your lawn so as to be respectful for your neighbors, why are the courts allowed to be open at this time? We need change….NOW! Cathy Carr 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Sunday, July 16, 2023 7:30 AM To:Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kathleen Martin; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Early again Attachments:IMG_0.MOV Good morning all. It is another morning we awoke to the sound of pickle ball players voices yelling and ball sounds at 6:20 am. This video was a snippet of their play. Hours need to be changed immediately and we as residents need to be heard. Why do players have more rights than us? We get NO relief from this game unless we leave our house. Please help! Cathy Carr 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Sunday, July 16, 2023 9:32 PM To:Brian Kirkendall; Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson Cc:Crinny Kirkendall; Kate Agarwala; Kathleen Martin; Steve Scherer; Joseph Cavanaugh; Todd Albers Subject:Re: 915 PM and still going The only reason the group just left (it is 9:27) is that we heard them say “let’s play another game” and we yelled across and said they need to leave. He said “really?” We said “the sign says til sunset”. They left along with another group of 4. Yes, ALL day we heard this. You truly have no idea what this is like to live by. This HAS to change. Cathy Carr On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 9:27 PM Brian Kirkendall <> wrote: I sent you a time stamp picture starting when I woke up at 545 AM and a picture at 607am. Now I am heading to bed to read and here is a time stamp picture at 915PM. It’s a bit hard to make out because it is almost dark. So from 545 am‐915pm. The only break in activity was the brief period it rained. Another day completely unable to sit on my deck upstairs or patio downstairs and enjoy reading the New York Times in the am and trying to finish the John Grisham novel “The Guardians” I started in the pm. Brian Kirkendall 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Wednesday, July 19, 2023 4:33 PM To:Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kathleen Martin; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Speaker last night Hello again. I’d like to point out one thing from last night’s meeting that needs to be known by all of you. The young man who spoke (Vogel?) WAS for sure the man who mouthed off to Christine Kirkendall the other day at the courts. I witnessed it and can attest it was him. It was disappointing to see him show up with such kind words for the Council when I saw him out there cussing and being extremely disrespectful to her. He happened to be outside with his parents after the meeting when a few of us were chatting in another area. Christine went over and asked him if he was in fact there at the courts. He stammered, shuffled around and then his Mom said “it’s clear we have different opinions.” Christine said “I’m just asking if he was there”. He said “ I don’t have to answer that”. The conversation ended. I bring this up to make sure all parties are on the same page and share information to make opinions. Again, I appreciate the time and welcome any questions. Cathy Carr 1 From:Cathy Carr <c> Sent:Wednesday, July 19, 2023 4:42 PM To:Kathleen Martin Cc:Crinny Kirkendall; Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kate Agarwala; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Re: 7/18/23 Council meeting I’d also ask that my email from this morning gets passed along to Mr David Anderson. Cathy Carr On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 3:15 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Thank you for sending the written statement as well. Scott, would you please share the information with our city engineer? From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2023 8:51 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov> Cc: Crinny Kirkendall <>; Kate Agarwala <> Subject: 7/18/23 Council meeting Hello all. Thank you for the time last night to speak and let you know the situation from "my side of the street". As requested, I am attaching my speech I gave last night. I ask that you take the time to re‐read and take particular note of the noise information included. I welcome any questions you may have. Through my extensive research, I have been in touch with an individual who was himself affected by courts built by his home. He was generous enough to share a sound study done in June of 2023 written by PickleBall Sound Mitigation, a leading company led by Bob Unetich, who I referenced as an expert on this topic last night. This is an excellent example of an appropriate sound study for our situation. Anything less will NOT properly address the topography, study of sound waves and available sound mitigation options. I cannot stress enough the need for acoustical engineers with experience in assessing the impact of short duration impulse sounds as pickleball creates. Failure to do so, will not provide accurate information and will only open the door for more questions and potential complaints. 2 It was disheartening to hear the naivete in the words of the Council members who spoke to "adding trees and a windscreen" as options to mitigate sound. In the numerous articles that I have sent in previous emails, it should have been apparent that trees and a basic screen around the courts will NOT solve our issues as my home and others are above the level of the courts and sound will carry up and over. The attached sound study addresses Sound Barriers on page 27. I ask that you pay particular attention to pages 31 and 32 where they draw conclusions and recommendations. I reiterate my words from last night that a sound study done before building these courts may have shown that the site proposed would not work and a proper site could have been chosen to introduce pickleball in our community. To select a site for a sport with such specific court requirements and noise accommodating needs purely on its aesthetic value and because people want a place to play in the park is an egregious act. The final site may not have been Hunter Lions Park due to its small size and proximity to neighbors. I am also attaching a Feb 2022 article from Ridgewood, New Jersey wherein a town was considering adding a second layer of panels because they found only one did not work. Luckily for the taxpayers, the Mayor did not go forward as she spoke to the manufacturer and it was agreed there was no added benefit. Before any more taxpayer monies are spent on these courts, I ask that due diligence is done NOW before any more decisions are made. We, as residents, are due that consideration. Thank you again for your time. Please feel free to reach out for any additional questions or information. Cathy Carr https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/ridgewood/2022/02/25/ridgewood‐nj‐pickleball‐courts‐ soundproofing‐panels‐noise/6922064001/ https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/colorado‐cities‐pickleball‐policies‐noise‐ ordinance/?fbclid=IwAR0YmlZFAbSkVTW0Y0MJxHNYDiPkFPAbCvIp53Hziv0mSgR0Tsu_GLzMCPI 3 https://www.npr.org/2023/06/08/1181131598/fixing‐pickleballs‐noise‐problem 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Thursday, July 20, 2023 8:12 AM To:Kathleen Martin; Dino Deslauriers; Joseph Cavanaugh; Scott Johnson; Robin Reid; Dusty Finke; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Cc:Kate Agarwala; Crinny Kirkendall Subject:New hours banner Good Morning everyone. I want to thank all who were involved in the quick turnaround on the posting of the new hours banner at Hunter pickleball courts. Hopefully the users will start to follow the rules as play continued until 8:45 last night and began around 7:35. One would think the large signs are clear. I look forward to continued conversation related to these courts and finding a place of compromise for us and the community. Cathy Carr 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Monday, July 24, 2023 11:51 AM To:Scott Johnson Cc:Kathleen Martin; Steve Scherer; Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Robin Reid; Todd Albers Subject:Re: Late Hours at Pickleball Courts Thank you Scott and yes, I am aware that other things are happening in Medina hence the hesitancy to call..specifically call 911. This is why I call the Non‐Emergency number even though we were instructed to call 911. I understand that the banners were installed "without prior warning". However, assuming one can read, players should be fully capable of understanding what the posted hours mean. Was a warning on a time change truly necessary? Again, assuming one knows how to tell time, a ruling was made and therefore should be kept. I don't know what "educate the court users" means other than telling them they are in violation of the very prominently posted court hours. I appreciate the time your staff is putting into a sound study and the time the police spend patrolling the area. Unfortunately, it seems a police presence is the only way people understand the signs. Thank you again for your attention to this matter. Cathy On Mon, Jul 24, 2023 at 11:41 AM Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy, Chief Nelson informed me this morning that we received one phone call this weekend regarding pickleball play after 8 PM on Sunday night. Our Police Officer was responding to a priority call at the same time according to Chief Nelson. Please allow the City more time to monitor and respond to complaints. The banners at the courts were installed at 4:30 PM on Wednesday, July 19, 2023. No warning on the time change was provided in advance to the public. Staff is following up as directed: 1.The City Council and Park Commission directed staff to find sound engineers to conduct a study. Staff is working with our City Engineer at WSB to find options. 2.Our Police Officers are driving by the park before 8 AM and after 8 PM as schedules permit to educate the court users about the updated times for play. Sincerely, Scott Johnson 2 City of Medina From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2023 7:17 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Late Hours at Pickleball Courts Good Morning! Again last night players were on the courts until 8:40. At that time, my husband Greg yelled over "the courts are closed". The final group players left after that. Until 8:30 there were 2 courts in use. I called the Non‐Emergency police number about 8:25 and was put on hold indefinitely. I hung up and at that time Greg yelled over to the group. We need support from the police for the enforcement of these hours as the signs are being ignored. The blatant disregard for these new hours is truly disappointing. How many more calls do we have to make to our already understaffed police force? As the sign states in bold letters, "If players do not respect occupancy, the courts will be closed and locked". So is this only a threat or an actual event that would be a natural consequence of the actions we have witnessed? What is the plan? Continue on this path of calls, emails and increased frustration on us most affected or take action? Cathy Carr 3201 Butternut Dr 3 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Tuesday, August 1, 2023 2:45 PM To:Steve Scherer Cc:Scott Johnson Subject:Re: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played Steve, Thank you for that information. It is true players are staying past the 8pm hours as you now have video confirming so. Why then is nothing being done to use THIS information you already have to enforce the hours other than neighbors calling the already understaffed police? I have no expectation of "monitoring the park forever" as once the hours are strictly enforced with actual and real consequences, this behavior would ideally stop. Until anyone has consequences, the rules will continue to be broken as the video evidence clearly shows. It's hard to understand why if a camera is set up that has evidence of clear violation of rules, why is no one enforcing these rules? The City Council voted on these hours...now it's time to enforce them with action. Telling someone to leave the courts at 8:25 is not enforcement. It's merely letting people play until they are told not to. Your signs state there will be consequences of court closing yet no one seems to be even willing to discuss this option your department put on the sign. Your help in understanding is appreciated. Cathy Cathy On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 12:19 PM Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy, Yes after looking at the footage the majority of the players left at 8:00 but two players remained on the north west court till 8:15. And two tennis players were playing. The purpose of the camera was to gather more information so everyone can make an informed decision. We do not monitor the camara constantly but it helps to verify pre and post 8:00 o’clock starts and stops if we look back at it. Its very low tech. The police are on there own schedule and have been making appearances as there time allows. We have no intention of monitoring the park forever. Steve Scherer From: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 10:39 AM To: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Subject: FW: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played 2 Hi Steve, Please respond to the questions from Cathy Carr on the trail camera. Thanks Scott From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 10:22 AM To: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Cc: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played So even if it is not manned, it most likely has capabilities to notify of motion when players arrive and so it’s possible to send police out when triggered before 8 am and after 8 pm. Is this something that could be utilized? Of course the camera would have to cover the new pickle‐ball AND tennis courts. In addition, the old tennis/pickle ball court should be equally represented for accurate information of usage. Thanks for the ongoing information Scott. Cathy On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 10:02 AM Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy, 3 Public Works staff installed a trail camera at the pickleball courts. The trail camera is not manned and is by the pickleball courts. Steve – does the trail camera have views of the new tennis courts? Scott Johnson City of Medina From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 9:07 AM To: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Cc: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played The police patrols are as much appreciated as they are necessary. One more question, I saw a camera was installed on the new pickleball court. Can you tell me if this is manned and if it also has a view of the new tennis courts? Would that not be an opportunity to see when players are playing early or past posted hours? Thank you for your timely responses Scott. Cathy On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:49 AM Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy, Our Police Officers will continue to drive by the park before 8 AM and after 8 PM as schedules permit to educate the court users about the updated times for play. Please call if people are not respecting the posted times of play. 4 Sincerely, Scott Johnson City of Medina From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 8:19 AM To: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Cc: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played I appreciate the patrols and continued awareness. It’s true I did not call last night or Sunday as I saw the patrol car drive up Sunday night at 8:25 and assumed patrols were happening. I also understand the priority of calls for the City which is why I hesitate to call. It feels futile to call and have them arrive after the parties have left on their own. So it’s a tricky thing….call and take the police officers time driving here only to have courts empty? As you stated above even if I had called last night they were rightfully helping in a much more dire situation and would not have been here to escort anyone out. The signs are clear. The fact that people are discussing them is also clear. So I ask at what point do the courts get closed for “players do not respect occupancy “ as the small blue sign boldly states? I truly want to find a solution and signs do not seem to be it. If the police need to be called to enforce, is that the City’s solution? In addition, for information, players stayed until 9 on the new tennis court last night and the old tennis/pickle ball courts until after 9. I’m struggling to believe ongoing patrols are the best answer. At what point are additional measures taken to alleviate the need for police to patrol every morning evening? Cathy 5 On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 8:04 AM Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy, Chief Nelson informed me this morning that we received no calls last night on the pickleball courts. Chief Nelson spoke with the Police Officer on duty last night and over the weekend. The Police Officer proactively asked people to leave Fri, Sat and Sun night at 8 or later each night. The Police Officer did not have a chance to check it last night as he was working on a 3 car personal injury accident. Staff continues to work diligently to ensure that park users are following established rules. Please know, however, that our police department must prioritize calls, which means that crime, safety and emergency medical calls will take precedent over calls related to the pickleball courts. The Police Officer did say that they didn’t receive any calls last night or this past weekend on the pickleball courts. Our Police Officers continue to drive by the park before 8 AM and after 8 PM as schedules permit to educate the court users about the updated times for play. Sincerely, Scott Johnson City of Medina From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2023 8:26 PM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played Good evening. I’m just reporting in that it’s 8:25 pm and both the old tennis/pickleball court AND the new courts still have players in them. Last night people also had to be told to leave the new courts. 6 Again I ask when do additional measures go into place to ensure the courts are clear as the hours state? The current players on the new tennis court arrived at 8:05pm. The old tennis/pickleball court arrivals were at 8:15pm. Asking for help in enforcement of rules. Thank you Cathy On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:59 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Thank you for sharing your input and concerns, all of which will continue to be well‐documented. City staff and officials are working through a process and gathering necessary information before making any final decisions. Until then, staff will work diligently to ensure that park users are following established rules. Please know, however, that our police department must prioritize calls, which means that crime, safety and emergency medical calls will take precedent over calls related to the pickleball courts. In the meantime, I suggest that our dialogue remain professional and considerate. I must take issue with your suggestion of “an emerging pattern of dishonesty in the Public Works Directing, Site Planning, and Parks Council processes.” I find our city staff to be of the highest integrity and our parks commissioners to be laudable public volunteers. Perhaps we can remove such inflammatory comments from and keep our future conversations civil. Have a nice evening. 7 ‐Kathy Martin Mayor of Medina From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 1:44 PM To: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov> Cc: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played Hi all, I appreciate the action steps of looking into new signage for the old tennis court and the installation of cameras and new signage on the new courts ‐ thank you. You still have not provided me with sufficient, truthful, nor reasonable evidence that Medina City Council and the Parks Commission did their due diligence in site planning. Until this is provided, I cannot accept your reasoning as to why Hunter Lions Park was the best choice for new court installations given its obvious spatial limitations and proximity to residents ‐ coupled with the known sound issues that pickleball has caused across the US. As stated in my address to the Council on 7/18, I am not opposed to pickleball being played in the appropriate location ‐ but I and many other residents believe that appropriate location is Hamel Park, not Hunter Lions Park. With adequate planning and time, this should have been apparent. There are clear shortcomings and an emerging pattern of dishonesty in the Public Works Directing, Site Planning, and Parks Council processes. In 2020, Steve himself stated "having actual pickeball courts provides a better experience than striping tennis courts", and it was noted that "the city does not currently have any pickeball courts" (Park Commission Meeting Notes, October 21, 2020). I would like your response with clarification on each of these three points specifically related to the "old tennis/pickleball court": 1. We were told by members of City Council that the new pickleball courts are a "test site" with the possibility of additional sites in Medina. If the old tennis court was already striped for pickleball as Steve states in his above response, the new courts would not be a test site; they are the additional sites. 8 2.I am attaching a photo I took of my daughter on the court in 2016 ‐ please note there are no pickeball lines in the foreground nor background. Still, if Steve was correct in his statement that the court has been for "striped that way" for 10 years, would that not have fulfilled the wants, ie pickleball courts, of the surveyed community? Additionally, if it was striped, why was the tennis court not used as the test site? 3.The old tennis/pickleball court is not advertised on the Hunter Lions Park website as a pickleball court, no signage refers to it as such and no one has ever referred to it as such in any of our communications whether email or in person. If the public response was so great to the new courts, why would the pickleball community fail notice that they already had one to use? I suspect because they are not Medina residents, and the court was not striped for pickelball. 9 10 I am frustrated at these obvious failures of our local government and dishonest explanations that ultimately result in residents' inability to enjoy the quiet and wide open green space that Medina is known for (and for which we moved to this township), and I look forward to your comments above. Thank you, Cathy Carr On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 8:43 AM Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> wrote: FYI the court has been striped that way for ten years . it was re striped about 4 years ago without digging into it. That being said I will see if we have another sign or make new ones specific to Pickle ball play so tennis can continue as always. From: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2023 6:11 AM To: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Subject: Fwd: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played Hi Steve, Please respond to Cathy Carr’s email. Thanks Scott Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: 11 From: Cathy Carr <> Date: July 26, 2023 at 8:36:34 PM CDT To: Brian Kirkendall <>, Crinny Kirkendall <>, Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>, Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>, Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>, Kate Agarwala <>, Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>, Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>, Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>, Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>, Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: 8:25 pm and yes, pickleball still being played Hello all. It’s 8:26 and we came outside to enjoy our deck but we are still subject to hearing pickle ball. Why? Because pickle ball players are on the newly striped courts of the old tennis court at Hunter Park. No signs to disallow play after 8 pm so people take advantage of that. This situation is exacerbated in that people showed up to play tennis in the new court (yes at 8:32 pm even with the signs up) but can’t even play in old court because the pickleball players are on it. What’s the plan here? Signs on old tennis court now too? Now that the old court has been striped you have allowed people an opportunity to still play past 8pm. Be consistent please. Is that too much to ask? Cathy Carr 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Wednesday, August 2, 2023 6:08 PM To:Scott Johnson Cc:Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kathleen Martin; Robin Reid; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Re: City Council Meeting August 2nd Thanks Scott. So it sounds like the study will in fact be for continuous noise rather than impulsive unless requested otherwise. Cathy On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 6:02 PM Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy, Below are some quick responses from Tony Baxter at ESI: 1.How many pickleball or tennis sound assessments has ESI performed in the past? Can we see the reports if any? I'm sure confidentiality is an issue so names can certainly be taken off the report. [AJB] We have done only one pickleball noise project. However, we have done 100’s of noise control projects to evaluate and control noise outdoors. 2.Do the technicians performing the study have experience in measuring impulsive noises? [AJB] Yes, we have experience measuring impulsive noise. An example is noise from gun ranges. 3.Is the equipment they are using Class 1/Type 1 certified equipment? [AJB] Yes, the equipment we use meets the Class 1 requirements and is factory calibrated ever year, and we field check the equipment calibration before and after measurements. 4.What metrics are they using to measure the sound?[AJB] We were asked to compare the noise to the MPCA noise rule requirements. The MPCA Noise Standards are the L10 and L50 levels, which are hourly statistical levels using the fast response time weighted measurements (LAF). 5.Are they using LAF/LAS or a combination of LApk and exposure to quantify the sound? This is extremely important to accurately measure the impulsive sounds. [AJB] Our equipment evaluates fast, slow, Leq, impulse, peak, max, min and more, simultaneously for the duration of the monitoring. We typically set up the equipment to make all these measurements every second. So, all these values are made 86,400 times per 24 hr day. 6.They state they are measuring from a location on the east side of Hunter. They are only using ONE location for measurements? Most sound engineers use no less than 3 locations. This one site measurement is very concerning. This indicates they are measuring continuous NOT impulsive noises. [AJB] We can measure at more locations if that is what the City wants to do. Or we can use shorter duration measurements and judgement to determine the loudest location and make measurements there. The goal of the study was to evaluate noise levels relative to the MPCA noise rules. 2 From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 1:28 PM To: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: City Council Meeting August 2nd Hello Scott, Thank you for sending over the quote from ESI Engineering for the noise study. I have a few follow up questions related to the work proposed. 1.How many pickleball or tennis sound assessments has ESI performed in the past? Can we see the reports if any? I'm sure confidentiality is an issue so names can certainly be taken off the report. 2.Do the technicians performing the study have experience in measuring impulsive noises? 3.Is the equipment they are using Class 1/Type 1 certified equipment? 4.What metrics are they using to measure the sound? 5.Are they using LAF/LAS or a combination of LApk and exposure to quantify the sound? This is extremely important to accurately measure the impulsive sounds. 6.They state they are measuring from a location on the east side of Hunter. They are only using ONE location for measurements? Most sound engineers use no less than 3 locations. This one site measurement is very concerning. This indicates they are measuring continuous NOT impulsive noises. The outsourcing of the sound study is welcome as we all have the same goal...get an accurate assessment. Please let me know what you find out from ESI related to my questions above. Thank you for your ongoing attention to this. Cathy On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 7:12 AM Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> wrote: 3 Cathy and Brian, Attached is a copy of the quote from ESI Engineering for a noise study per City Council direction. The City Council plans to add this information to the August 2nd agenda. Sincerely, Scott Johnson City of Medina 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Friday, August 11, 2023 8:57 AM To:Steve Scherer Cc:Kathleen Martin; Scott Johnson Subject:Re: Needing clarification Thank you for that information Steve. I still can not understand how the trees along Hunter we discussed for the visual aspect of the courts has anything to do with the sound study. Can you help with that correlation? The research I’ve done online support the fact that due to the topography and elevation of the homes along Hunter, NO trees will effectively block the sound created by the courts. Therefore, the placement of trees along the east side of Hunter will be for visual blockage only. So, what does the sound study have to do with seeing the courts? Cathy On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 8:48 AM Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> wrote: Hi Cathy, in response the tree’s I discussed when I met you on site a few weeks back I was looking to see how much room we had and how they might fit into the rite of way prior to the Park meeting . I reported back to them and they did not want to take any action until the sound study was done. Steve Scherer From: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 8:04 AM To: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Subject: FW: Needing clarification Hi Steve, Please respond to the email below. Thanks Scott 2 From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2023 9:00 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Needing clarification Thank you for your quick reply Mayor. I understand and appreciate the tough choices the police make in responding and am thankful for their services. In no way am I implying they are ignoring the calls. I am simply asking if there is no response what is the consequence to the players violating? It is a two‐fold item in that there IS a violation and there is NO consequence. That is the crux of this issue. No follow through of enforcement as signs indicate there will be. Do you or anyone else have any information on the trees Steve stated were going in? Thank you all for your ongoing efforts to find a solution. We all need a resolution soon. Cathy On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 8:46 AM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: The police make choices between addressing criminal actions and life threatening situations, on the one hand, and pickle ball court complaints on the other. Believe me, they are not sitting around ignoring your calls. When they are able to do so, they will respond. Your choice as to whether you want to continue to call. The Parks Commission will evaluate the entirety of the situation, including the results of the sound study, after it has the data from the study, and make its recommendation to the Council. On Aug 10, 2023, at 7:16 AM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: 3 Good Morning all. I am looking for some clarification on the protocol recommended by the Council. Last evening at 8:36 two people showed up to play tennis at the old tennis/pickleball court. I called the police at that time and asked for them to come to the court to escort them off. At 8:52 the players left on their own as it was getting dark. At no time did the police ever show up either while they were there or anytime after. I understand, as we have been advised multiple times "police must prioritize calls", however not showing up AT ALL is disappointing. What would be the point of us continuing to call when they may or may not show up? Is it solely to track the number of violations based on how many times we, the residents, call for enforcement of the hours very clearly stated? These players had to literally walk underneath the banner to play. So I ask again, how effective is that signage? What are the consequences for these violators? Absolutely nothing. If there are no consequences, there will be continued dismissal of signage (as we all know is an issue) and we are stuck in a cycle of violations, phone calls, police show up (maybe), people leave. Repeat the next day. Is this what the City has planned to monitor these courts? There HAVE to be consequences for violators and until there are none, this will not stop on its own. We, the residents, are suffering daily due to the lack of ownership of this ongoing and persistent problem. I have to believe if there was a dog barking or other similar violation that went on EVERY DAY, whereas the police had to be called out EVERY DAY, there would be fines or some other penalty for the offending party. How is this allowed to continue with NO consequences? Why is it now my job to monitor the courts? The camera which could have been used to do such has been taken down. So please tell me, what is the plan? Another item which has not been completed yet we were given every indication was a surety, were trees along the East side of Hunter. Can you help me understand the correlation between trees (promised by Steve in a conversation in my backyard about a month ago) planted for visual screening and the impending results of a sound study? The trees he and I discussed would have absolutely NO bearing on any sound mitigation due to the topography of the area. Strictly visual. I'd like to know how and why they are tied together. It sure feels like empty promises. I'd like to remind you of the following: 2022 MN Statute 561.01 Nuisance:Action Anything which is injurious to health, or indecent or offensive to the senses, or an obstruction to the free use of property, so as to interfere with the comfortable enjoyment of life or property, is a nuisance. An action may be brought by any person whose property is injuriously affected or whose 4 personal enjoyment is lessened by the nuisance, and by the judgement then nuisance may be enjoined or abated, as well as damages recovered. The noise and issues we have brought to the council since these courts were opened, and are still bringing to you, are a persistent problem for those of us who hear it every day. Players can come and play and go home to their quiet space. There are multiple outlets and venues for players to enjoy the game. They played before these courts were installed so clearly they know of other places. We, along Hunter, have one place we call home and it is under constant attack. We need relief and we need it immediately. We need enforcement of stated hours in a manner that will have meaning to violators. This unfortunate situation was created by the decision of the council and now needs remedying by the same council. While we wait for help, our daily lives, families and way of living is affected. This is not what living in Medina should be like. Play should NEVER be prioritized over the needs to live and work peacefully. Yet, this is what is happening here right here in Medina. Cathy 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Friday, August 11, 2023 12:04 PM To:Kathleen Martin Cc:Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Re: Newest article out Mayor and Council, Can you please point me to where I can find the overall Parks Plan? I do not see it online at the City of Medina site. Did you get a quote on the cost to move the pickleball court? Can you share that please? Thanks for anything you can provide. Cathy On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 7:02 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Cathy, to move the courts to Hamel Park is an expensive proposition and contrary to our parks plan. The City has commissioned a sound study, which the Parks Commission desires to review before taking further action. On Aug 7, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: Good Morning all. Another city with noise complaints such as ours. This article was released this weekend on NBC News. How many more articles and citations do we need to provide the Council to help understand the noise issue this game creates? We are not making this up (as some in the meetings believe) and the numerous nationwide articles support our claims. I still stand by my question which has never been answered…why not move the courts to Hamel Park? The amount of time and money spent on these courts in their current location so far is incredible. These efforts surely could have been applied somewhere else in Medina and we could all move on. Have you sent the police out to Hamel Park nearly every night to tell tennis players to leave at the stated hours? Have you held Council and Parks meetings repeatedly over the topic of tennis for the Hamel courts? Have neighbors called for noise issues specifically related to tennis at Hamel Park? Have you read about lawsuits over noise issues from tennis players and the sound tennis creates in relation to proximity to residents homes? I believe the answer to all those will be No. Why is that? Anything to do with the tree lined courts hundreds of feet away from residential properties? Denying the facts does not equate to progress for the City. This hard line the City is taking with no substantive reasons is dismissive and reeks of negligence. 2 Please provide your taxpayers with articles supporting pickleball close to residents homes. Throw in all the articles of how many people near to any courts that love hearing the constant pinging sound of the game all day and into the night. And please include all the research cited and articles that were read and considered before the Hunter Park courts were installed. I’d love to read them. https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly‐news/video/noise‐complaints‐arise‐as‐pickleball‐grows‐in‐ popularity‐across‐u‐s‐190097477605 Cathy Carr 1 From:Cathy Carr <> Sent:Wednesday, August 16, 2023 9:35 PM To:Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kathleen Martin; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Past hours again Hello again. I am just keeping you in the loop of another late hours violation at the pickle ball courts tonight. Police were called as the courts were full at 8 pm. A few players left a bit later but another group stayed until 8:51 pm! Police never showed but were called. I can assume they had other calls to tend to but the fact is some people will NOT leave unless escorted off or it gets too dark as it did tonight. In comparison, last night police were in the parking lot at 8 pm and all parties left right on time. What does that tell you? Something needs to be done to get people out when the courts are closed. Signs are not working and the police should not have to be called every night or sit in the lot to get the message across. Your assistance is appreciated. Cathy 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Sunday, June 11, 2023 8:49 AM To:Kathleen Martin; Dino Deslauriers; Todd Albers; Robin Reid; Joseph Cavanaugh Cc:Steve Scherer; Scott Johnson; Dusty Finke Subject:Re: Pickleball Thank you for your reply. I appreciate that mitigation measures are being investigated. I was thinking that another solution could be to relocate the pickleball courts to Hamel Park, basically swapping the two setups. Hunter Park would have the double tennis courts and Hamel Park would have one tennis court and four pickleball courts. That way there would still be double courts for Agre tennis and there would be no homes close to the pickleball courts. I understand that you can't reply about policy, but I still wanted to share. Kate Agarwala From: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:51 AM To: Kate Agarwala <>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov> Cc: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov> Subject: RE: Pickleball Thank you for your very thoughtful message. We have received similar comments from others who live close to the courts. City Staff (primarily our Public Works Director, Steve Scherer) is gathering data on the courts and investigating potential means for the city to mitigate the impacts. Our public meeting laws in MN do not permit the Council to discuss policy matters outside a scheduled public meeting, so please do understand that while we have all read your message we cannot discuss it via email; thus you most likely will not receive a reply from the other council persons but I have copied our key staff persons so they are certain to be aware of your concerns. From: Kate Agarwala <k> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2023 7:31 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov> Subject: Pickleball Hi, Thank you for your work for the city of Medina. I am reaching out today in regards to the new pickleball courts at Hunter Park and the noise they are creating. I live across the street from these courts and the noise they are creating has made it impossible to enjoy our 2 porch. The noise travels inside our house with the windows closed too. We hear pickleball playing at breakfast, when we are trying to go to sleep, and all day in between. It is like someone is playing ping pong next to us all day. The noise is louder than pretty much anything else, including trucks, lawn mowers, and my kids. I reached out to Dusty Finke a couple of weeks ago about plans to dampen the sound from the courts. He replied that there are no plans for this. There are many news articles about the problems with pickleball noise, including this NPR article written yesterday: https://www.npr.org/2023/06/09/1181246866/pickleball‐noise‐problem‐courts‐bats‐play I urge you to consider adding noise dampening to these courts either via Acoustifence, plantings or other methods. I am glad that the courts are serving a need in the community, but want to enjoy my house too. If I have to focus on something I have had to start wearing earplugs. Thank you, Kate Agarwala 3241 Butternut Drive 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Thursday, June 22, 2023 9:05 AM To:Steve Scherer Subject:Re: Pickle Ball Hi Steve, Thank you for kindly having me at the Park Commission meeting last night. I appreciate how you respectfully listened to my concerns and are working on this issue. This was my first Park Commission meeting and I’m curious, is it common for someone talking to the Commission to be repeatedly questioned by another member of the audience? I felt the questioning, and her sometimes untrue retort statements to my concerns, was inappropriate and would have preferred to answer questions from the actual Commission. I did notice that you redirected this person once. I did not attend the open house nor bring up any issues prior to now. I had absolutely no idea how disruptive these courts would be. I also trusted that Medina had carefully considered the impact on neighbors and had a plan that was in the best interest of both players and nearby homes. I know that pickleball is quite popular and that these courts have been well received by many. I do not begrudge them a place to play. I think it’s great that Medina was responsive to the feedback provided by community players. These players deserve to have a place to play, but we as homeowners deserve to use our decks, porches, and backyards and to be able to be in our homes without hearing constant pinging. In my research on this topic, noise is a very common problem with pickleball courts. Realtors in some communities with pickleball courts are now starting to show properties when it is not being played. The contact information for the Enclave HOA is included below. Kate Agarwala Nikki Youngquist, CMCA Vice President of Association Management Gassen Company, AAMC 6438 City West Parkway 2 Eden Prairie, MN 55344 clientsupport@gassen.com Office: 952‐922‐5575 From: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 9:50 AM To: Kate Agarwala <> Subject: RE: Pickle Ball I can’t copy everyone on this e‐mail because of open meeting laws. I don’t recall anyone from the Enclave coming to the open house bringing any of these issues up. This is our first Pickle Ball Court so we as a group were are learning some things as we go. As far as screening if you have a contact for your HOA that would be helpful to me so I can investigate the possibility of plantings along the Rite of Way and the wetland where there is no screening. The Hamel Park plantings were a result of tree replacement from the trees that were removed from the Enclave development. I actually placed them all around the park but for a wind break for the tennis courts. I am looking into other way to scree the courts as well. I have been consumed with street paving projects for the past month and I have a little break before phase two starts so I can spend a little more time on this. Steve Scherer From: Kate Agarwala <> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2023 10:13 AM To: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Cc: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Pickle Ball Hi Steve, During planning, what were the considerations for the impact on neighbors, particularly across Hunter Road? What plans were made during this process to mitigate potential impacts? What screening measures are currently being investigated? Are both plantings around the fencing and acoustic fencing/barriers being looked into? I have attached pictures of the tennis courts at Hamel Park. The courts have complete screening coverage on two of the sides. Why was this not planned for at least the three sides of the Hunter Park courts that emit sound to the houses across Hunter Road? The new courts hold 2.5 times more people than the Hamel Park courts, 20 vs. 8, house a significantly louder and more repetitive and social game, and are much closer to homes. I think the impact is quite widespread, as I rarely see people using their decks and porches, which is unusual for this time of year. Kate From: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2023 10:46 AM To: kate <> 3 Cc: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Subject: Pickle Ball Hi Kate, Steve here from Public Works. I am in charge of Parks, Water , Sewer , Stormwater , and Streets. I read your e‐ mail and as the Mayor said we are gathering information for a couple of weeks and we will discuss this with the Park Commission. We are excited that the courts and the park In general is being used, that was our goal. That being said I think a few changes are in order most likely hours of use, and possible screening. There were several meetings and an open house before these courts went in so we have no intention of moving them after three weeks. I do sympathize with you my neighbor has a court in his back yard and he has lights so he can play at night. I am a resident of Medina and have been for 62 years so I do understand change is not easy, as you can imagine I have seen a lot of Medina change from a corn field to housing development . I actually went over and played on the court yesterday and there was a nice mix of ages great to see. We will keep gathering comments both positive and negative and discuss them with the commission. Thanks Steve Scherer Steve Scherer | Public Works Director | City of Medina Direct: (763) 473‐8842 • Fax: (763) 473‐9359 • steve.scherer@medinamn.gov 2052 County Road 24 • Medina, MN • 55340 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Monday, June 26, 2023 1:18 PM To:Cathy Carr; Kathleen Martin Cc:Brian Kirkendall; Crinny Kirkendall; Dino Deslauriers; Dusty Finke; Joseph Cavanaugh; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Todd Albers Subject:Re: Articles regarding noise & pickleball courts Thank you for sharing this video. The noise penetrating our house this morning was among the worst I've heard. Kate Agarwala From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2023 9:22 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Brian Kirkendall <>; Crinny Kirkendall <>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala <>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Articles regarding noise & pickleball courts A sample of sounds today at 9:20am. 2 pickle ball courts in use by 8 people. Cathy Carr On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 2:11 PM Cathy Carr <> wrote: Hello all, I did not see this happen but wanted to make you aware that tracks were made in the field this morning. 2 3 Please see attached photo. Cathy Carr On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:08 AM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Correction: I told you I did not know if studies were conducted. On Jun 22, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Thank you for the additional information. On Jun 22, 2023, at 9:28 AM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: Mayor Martin and others, As I mentioned to Mayor Martin and Mr. Albers on Monday evening, I have attached a small sample of articles and videos found online all related to the effects of pickleball on a community. In these articles you will find a litany of complaints from residents on the noise and effects on the residents nearby. Also you will find acoustical studies and recommendations on distance from residents. It appears NO studies were done by Medina before deciding on the current location. Mayor Martin told me this directly in our chat Monday evening. In addition to that statement, she had no knowledge of any articles related to any issues other communities are having. There are articles I've found below going back as far as 2016 related to this. I am trying to understand how an investment in our town was made with zero sound studies or consideration for residents. If you have in fact done the studies, I'd be interested in reading the findings and believe this should be shared with myself and my neighbors who are sending emails regarding this matter. The fact that no one from the City has once referenced them seems to indicate the proper pre‐ work was NOT done. I kindly ask that you take the time to read through and watch the videos below to properly assess the similarities. The statements made by almost every resident in the articles/videos cited mimic exactly the issues we are having. It's quite clear this is not an Enclave Resident only issue. https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/11/business/pickleball‐sports‐noise‐complaints‐ tennis‐ctpr/index.html https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022‐03‐03/pickleball‐noise‐fueling‐ neighborhood‐ drama#:~:text=Extended%20exposure%20to%2080%2Ddecibel,it%20does%2C%E2%8 0%9D%20he%20said. 4 https://masspickleballguide.com/sport/pickleball‐noise‐ impact/#:~:text=Pickleball%20noise%20in%20decibels,than%2090%20can%20be%20h armful. https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/next‐with‐kyle‐clark/pickleball‐ noise‐divides‐neighbors‐and‐players/73‐8beb759c‐c19f‐40f2‐83f3‐ e09d0753242a#:~:text=City%20ordinance%20only%20allows%20for,Deputy%20Direct or%20Scott%20Gilmore%20said. https://www.arlnow.com/2022/11/30/exclusive‐more‐residents‐are‐threatening‐ legal‐action‐because‐of‐pickleball‐noise/ https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/law‐and‐life/what‐can‐you‐do‐about‐pickleball‐ noise/ https://picklevine.com/how‐far‐does‐pickleball‐noise‐ travel/#:~:text=According%20to%20research%20from%20Spendiarian,sounds%20wit h%20the%20greatest%20clarity. https://www.acousticalnoise.com/noise‐control/why‐are‐your‐pickleball‐courts‐ receiving‐complaints‐from‐neighbors/ https://hoalaw.tinnellylaw.com/amp/pickleball‐installation/ https://www.theflipsidecommunications.com/we‐are‐opposing‐pickle‐ball‐expansion‐ in‐our‐neighborhood/ https://crazypickleballlady.com/2021/06/07/respecting‐our‐neighbors‐creating‐a‐ quieter‐pickleball‐environment/ Video regarding sound of tennis v pickleball: https://crazypickleballlady.com/2021/06/07/respecting‐our‐neighbors‐ creating‐a‐quieter‐pickleball‐environment/ Video from 2016 of resident issues of nearby courts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pij‐t8gAJtQ Video of how pickleball is louder than tennis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCQoY_hOpMo San Diego Union Tribune June 2022 The average noise level coming from a pickleball court is measured around 70 decibels at about 100 feet away from the court. This reduces to 64 decibels when measured at 200 feet away from the court. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration prescribes that noise exposure becomes dangerous when an individual is exposed to 90 decibels or greater for eight hours or more. For comparison, typical ambient neighborhood noise is about 45 decibels and average 5 conversation is around 60 decibels. So is pickleball noise dangerous? No. Does pickleball add noise to the environment? Yes. Star Tribune article from March 2019 in Apple Valley: https://www.startribune.com/apple‐valley‐neighbors‐in‐a‐pickle‐over‐ pickleball‐noise/507726242/ Lance Willis, an acoustical engineer from Arizona, has prepared many noise abatement plans for pickleball courts in states such as California and Idaho. He typically recommends prefabricated concrete walls around the ball courts, at a cost of about $100 a foot, though other wall systems and fencing can also muffle sound. Some other methods, such as using sound-deadening paddles or balls, would require enforcement to work. Willis also suggests that pickleball courts be located at least 150 feet from residences. Article and excerpt below of July 2021 article in NJ town: https://projects.nj.com/pickleball/ If you dig deep into the whole kerfuffle, you likely will find the pickleball complainers actually have recent history on their side. In fact, you could argue the original sin in Ridgewood is that no one in leadership studied pickleball enough to know where to put the courts. If members of the Village Council had done some Googling beforehand, they would have seen that pickleball noise complaints are nothing new. Just over the past five years, sound disputes have been documented in Berkeley, California; Punta Gorda, Florida; Rockford, Illinois; Woodbury, Minnesota; Miami and, now, Ridgewood, New Jersey. In fact, in Punta Gorda, a man who lived across the street from pickleball courts said the noise caused him to suffer a stroke. “Nothing was ever discussed with the neighbors about putting in the courts,” Kling said. “It was fait accompli.” Will Thornton, who runs an acoustics and vibrations consulting company in Pittsburgh, said “the fight over this and the viciousness of this is not unique. This has become a really common community noise problem.” Thornton said the main issue is pickleball is such a new sport that most communities haven’t properly vetted where to build courts or realized the noise generated by the game is greater than tennis. “Fundamentally the structure of a pickleball racquet, and pickleball itself, emits noises that are louder and have tonality — frequency content — that is more problematic,” he said. “The sound emitted by pickleball, it’s 6 staccato, constant ringing, basically. And it happens to emit noise, sound that is roughly in the center of human audiological hearing acuity. So, basically, the frequencies, the tones that we’re most sensitive to.” Thornton said the proper distance between courts and residential areas “can easily be hundreds of feet.” In Ridgewood, roughly a half-dozen houses are less than a hundred feet or so from the court I welcome your thoughts on any of the information above. I am also interested in your site work preparation in order to determine that Hunter Park was the best option available. Hunter Park is already utilized for basketball, tennis, baseball, cricket, a playground and volleyball. It is a 6.8 acre park with limited parking and no restrooms. My home is 104 +‐ feet from the new courts. I don't believe any resident is as close to any court over in the larger Hamel Park. Hamel Park has similar amenities yet provides restrooms, ample parking and is 40 acres. Not only that it already has tree sound barriers around the 2 tennis courts. Has it occurred to anyone that before the courts went in that noise complaints from Hunter Park were a non‐ issue? Since they were installed, I know of 6 neighbors that have either written or contacted the city regarding noise. These courts are well used as you can see. The issue is they are in a bad location. The relocation of the pickleball to the larger park alleviates every issue we are complaining about. Please consider switching the Hamel tennis courts and the Hunter pickleball courts. Infrastructure is already in place. I'm looking for help and some information. I know I'm not the only one asking this. Please listen to your taxpayers most affected by this. It is not taking anything away from the community to move the courts. There will still be pickleball available as well as tennis for all to enjoy! Cathy Carr 3201 Butternut Drive Medina, MN 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Monday, June 26, 2023 2:29 PM To:Steve Scherer Subject:Pickleball Soundproofing Hi Mr. Scherer, In my first email I asked that soundproofing like Acoustifence be looked into. As I've been looking into it more there are a lot of different options for soundproofing that appear to be better options. I wanted to amend my original ask to be soundproofing, rather than a specific type. I'm seeing that sound absorbing rather than reflective products are more appropriate. Thank you, Kate 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Wednesday, June 28, 2023 6:41 AM To:Kathleen Martin Cc:Dino Deslauriers; Robin Reid; Todd Albers; Joseph Cavanaugh; Steve Scherer; Scott Johnson Subject:Re: Pickleball Hours You're welcome. Thank you for asking for my thoughts on this matter. I wanted to clarify that the hours I suggested are limits of time, not meant to be full hours. During the week, I think play should occur between 9 am‐7 pm, not to exceed 7 total consecutive hours daily. Over the weekend, I think play should occur between 10 am‐5 pm, not to exceed 4 total consecutive hours daily. Thank you, Kate Agarwala From: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2023 10:08 AM To: Kate Agarwala <> Cc: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Pickleball Hours Thanks, Kate, for your research and thoughtful input. On Jun 24, 2023, at 7:28 AM, Kate Agarwala <> wrote: Good morning, Thank you for your work on the issue of pickleball noise. When Mayor Martin visited my home, she asked what I thought appropriate hours of pickleball play would be. At the time I wasn't sure what would help the noise situation. I have been giving it a lot of thought and doing research. I am finding that many courts located near residences have fewer open hours than the courts at Hunter Park. In addition to reduced hours, there are courts that are closed on certain days to also help alleviate the noise. I am thinking that my answer to the question of hours would fall somewhere along the lines of Monday‐Friday 9 am‐7 pm and Saturday and Sunday from 10 am‐5 pm. Here are some articles and a quick synopsis that showcase some different scenarios of hour usage. Closed from use: 7 p.m. to 8:30 a.m. Monday through Saturday, and from 6 p.m. to 10 a.m. on Sunday. https://www.newportri.com/story/news/local/2022/07/26/pickleball‐courts‐newport‐vernon‐ hunter‐park‐cause‐issues‐city‐reduce‐hours/10142410002/ 2 Open 4‐8 pm Monday‐Friday with tennis camps; 9am‐8pm without tennis camps; 9‐5 on Saturdays, and closed Sundays. https://6abc.com/chestnut‐hill‐pickleball‐philadelphia‐noise‐water‐tower‐recreation‐ center/12001533/ https://chestnuthilllocal.com/stories/water‐tower‐pickleball‐courts‐get‐new‐hours‐as‐a‐ potential‐lawsuit‐looms,23076 Open Monday, Wednesday, Friday 9am‐7pm and 9 am‐1 pm Saturday. Closed Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday. https://www.ffxnow.com/2023/02/02/vienna‐town‐council‐cuts‐pickleball‐hours‐at‐glyndon‐ park‐urging‐use‐of‐quieter‐paddles/ Open 9 am‐5 pm https://provincetownindependent.org/community/2021/10/27/west‐end‐in‐a‐pickle‐over‐ popular‐sport/ Open 8 am‐8pm. Of particular note, this is Park City's actual code amendment which requires a minimum setback of 600 feet from lot lines of adjacent residential properties for courts with no noise mitigation. These hours are less than Hunter Park hours with required setbacks that appear more than double the distance the courts are from my lot line. https://www.parkcity.org/departments/planning/code‐amendments/pickleball Thank you, Kate Agarwala 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:18 AM To:Cathy Carr; Kathleen Martin Cc:Dino Deslauriers; Robin Reid; Todd Albers; Joseph Cavanaugh; Steve Scherer; Scott Johnson; Dusty Finke Subject:Re: Pickle ball court violations 6/27/23 Good morning, It might also be a good time to remind players who miss the parking lot that our backyards are not to be used for U‐turns. This morning around 8:30, a red convertible missed the parking lot, pulled over in my backyard to let a car pass, and then did a U‐turn. They then pulled into the parking lot and walked to the pickleball courts. Thank you, Kate From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:09 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Pickle ball court violations 6/27/23 Sorry! Here's the video I meant to send with the last email Cathy IMG_3499.MOV The linked image cannot be displayed. The file may hav e been mov ed, renamed, or deleted. Verify that the link points to the correct file and location. On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 9:07 AM Cathy Carr <> wrote: Hello again. This is the group I mentioned in the previous email about a potential league taking place as well as possible non‐Medina residents. There are people waiting outside the fencing and rotating in to play. This is why it seems to be a league. Please listen to the sound level taken just now from my deck. Cathy Carr On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 8:35 AM Cathy Carr <> wrote: Good Morning all. Just a heads up..looks like league play right now at the courts. Apparently a large group was also there yesterday at this time too. Maybe now would be a good opportunity to check and see how many are Medina residents? Just a thought to follow up on that concern. 2 Thanks for your consideration. Cathy Carr On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 1:04 PM Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: Please call the police if you witness further violations. On Jun 28, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Cathy Carr <> wrote: Hello all, I am writing to inform you of a crowd last night that was in clear violation of the rules posted on the pickleball courts on Hunter. As frustrating as it was to hear this crowd play at 6 pm for a long while, I did not realize until it was pointed out to me today, that they were in violation of the clearly marked Rules. I am attaching pictures of the sign and its Rules as well as the group violating the following: Prohibited items: Outside chairs Spectators must remain outside fence Can you clarify the statement posted in BOLD on the sign: "If players do not respect occupancy, courts will be closed and locked". Who and what determines this? Thanks for any information you can provide. Cathy Carr 3201 Butternut Dr, Medina, MN 55340 <IMG_0821.jpeg> <IMG_2305.HEIC> 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Wednesday, July 19, 2023 1:19 PM To:Steve Scherer Subject:Park Commission Hi Steve, It is my understanding that the video from last night's City Council meeting will be shared with the Park Commission. Will you please also share with them the video from the City Council meeting on July 5th? Kate 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Monday, August 7, 2023 7:05 AM To:Kathleen Martin; Dino Deslauriers; Todd Albers; Robin Reid; Joseph Cavanaugh; Scott Johnson; Dusty Finke; Steve Scherer Subject:City Council Meeting Good morning, I was unable to attend this past City Council meeting but I did watch the video. I am writing this email in response to the Park Commission feedback from Terry Sharp, particularly his focus on Maple Grove. He used the Maple Grove argument to dismiss me at the June Park Commission meeting as well. After that meeting I did my own research of Maple Grove's pickleball courts. I can give specific citations, but to summarize, Maple Grove did talk in their meetings regarding Lakeview Knolls about noise impact to neighbors both in 2022 and 2023. If noise is the non‐issue Terry claimed and they truly have had no complaints about noise, why are they discussing it at all? Terry also mentioned roughly 64 pickleball courts in Maple Grove due to tennis courts being lined. Lined tennis courts do not attract the same amount of traffic as dedicated pickleball courts. Case in point, the old Hunter Park tennis court is lined for pickleball but never attracted any notice/complaints before this summer. At the end of the day Medina is not Maple Grove. I could give you a long list of cities that are experiencing the issues we are experiencing in Medina, including Apple Valley. Courts are being closed across the country and cities are amending their codes to include minimum setbacks for courts. There would not be the amount of national news coverage on the issue if this was a rare occurrence, including NBC Nightly News’ story this past week. Maybe Maple Grove is the outlier, not Medina. I find it concerning that Terry mentioned that if the sound study shows that the noise levels are compliant with state laws that they wouldn't have to do anything. The reality is there is a sound issue negatively affecting our lives and property no matter what the numbers show. Please uphold Medina city code: “The City of Medina has an interest in safeguarding the right of its residents to enjoy, in their home and dwelling, a feeling of well‐being, tranquility, and privacy.” 2 Kate Agarwala Virus-free.www.avast.com 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Wednesday, August 9, 2023 1:24 PM To:Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Dusty Finke; Kathleen Martin; Dino Deslauriers; Joseph Cavanaugh; Robin Reid; Todd Albers; Cathy Carr Subject:Re: Pickleball Courts Hi Scott, I don't understand what the sound study has to do with players breaking the current rules. It has been 3 weeks, and the education the players have is they can simply keep playing until they are told to leave because there is no real consequence, like a fine or an actual threat to close the courts temporarily. So, most nights, unless the police drive by on their own, I or another neighbor has to call. This is incredibly unfair to neighbors who already are suffering to see this willful defiance by players and lack of regard for our time. Does the Park Commission even know how many hour violations there have been? Can players continue to break the rules as they wish with no consequence until after the sound study? If we are dependent on the sound study, when is this scheduled? I assume the sound study is not scheduled to be completed before next week's Park Commission meeting. That means we are waiting until at least the September 20th Park Commission meeting for them to review it. The City Council meeting after that date is October 3rd. Will nothing change before October? Kate Agarwala From: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 11:13 AM To: Kate Agarwala <>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Cathy Carr <> Subject: RE: Pickleball Courts Hi Kate, The City has commissioned a sound study, which the Parks Commission desires to review before taking further action. Our Police Officers will continue to drive by the park before 8 AM and after 8 PM as schedules permit to educate the court users about the updated times for play. Please call if people are not respecting the posted times of play. Sincerely, Scott Johnson City of Medina From: Kate Agarwala <> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2023 5:45 AM To: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers 2 <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Cathy Carr <> Subject: Re: Pickleball Courts Hi Scott, On July 21st you asked for more time in regards to enforcement of the hours change to the courts. How long do you need? The hours changed three weeks ago today and they are clearly not being followed. The police have to sit in the morning to deter people from starting early and are having to come by in the evening, either because of calls or patrol and remove people from the courts. It is complete willful defiance of the players. Last night as soon as the police started driving down the path toward the courts, the people started leaving. They knew exactly what the police were there for. At what point will you shut the courts for breaking occupancy, as the sign states? If you are not going to shut the courts, are you planning to have the police issue citations? It seems like players are going to continue to play outside of hours since there are no consequences. What is the plan to enforce the rules? Kate Agarwala From: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 2:04 PM To: Kate Agarwala <>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Cathy Carr <> Subject: RE: Pickleball Courts Hi Kate, Please allow the City more time to monitor and respond to complaints. The banners at the courts were installed at 4:30 PM on Wednesday, July 19, 2023. No warning on the time change was provided in advance to the public. Staff is following up as directed: 1.The City Council and Park Commission directed staff to find sound engineers to conduct a study. Staff is working with our City Engineer at WSB to find options. 2.Our Police Officers are driving by the park before 8 AM and after 8 PM as schedules permit to educate the court users about the updated times for play. Sincerely, Scott Johnson City of Medina From: Kate Agarwala <> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 8:25 AM To: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid 3 <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Cathy Carr <> Subject: Pickleball Courts Hello, I am writing in regards to the new hours at the pickleball courts. As Cathy mentioned yesterday the hours were not followed Wednesday night or Thursday morning. Last night was particularly egregious. At 8:05, when I called the police, all five courts were still in use. In the 25 minutes it took the police to come, some courts emptied and repopulated. That is complete willful defiance as the signs cannot be missed. This morning play started before 7. Again, I had to call the police and he had to clear multiple courts. Why do I have to be part of the enforcement of the rules? I do not want to start and end my day having to call the police. I am not willing to do this every morning and night, but I assume the play will continue to happen during closed hours. Clearly the signs are not working. What is the new plan? Are you going to lock them during closed hours? If not, someone needs to be there from 7‐8 am and 8‐9 pm every day to enforce the rules. The rules sign at the courts clearly states "If players do not respect occupancy, courts will be closed and locked." Between 8 pm and 8 am occupancy is 0. When will these courts be closed and locked for lack of rule following? I think it's probably time to lock the courts full time and use a fob system. Only Medina residents would be able to use them. In order to get a fob, players could also sign a code of conduct acknowledging the rules. If the rules are broken, you would know who was most recently at the courts and their fob access could be revoked. There will always need to be someone going to the courts at 8 pm to get remaining players to leave. Kate 1 From:Kate Agarwala <> Sent:Friday, August 11, 2023 10:05 AM To:Kathleen Martin; Joseph Cavanaugh; Todd Albers; Dino Deslauriers; Robin Reid; Scott Johnson; Steve Scherer; Dusty Finke Subject:Pickleball I received the Rockford Community Ed brochure in the mail this week. The brochure states that their pickleball/tennis courts will be closed for the season after October 15, with the possibility that inclement weather could close them sooner. I looked up the location of these courts. They are not close to any homes. The closest residential structure is over 600 feet away from these courts. When will the courts at Hunter Park close for the season? If you don't close them, people will play even in cold and snowy weather. This morning, and not for the first time, people brought equipment to dry the courts from the rain. Kate Agarwala 1 From:Kirkendall, Brian <> Sent:Saturday, June 10, 2023 6:41 AM To:Steve Scherer Subject:Re: Hunter Lions Park and the new Pickleball courts New record. Someone is playing pickle ball at 615AM. Woke us up as we slept with windows open to appreciate the cool air. Brian Kirkendall (He/Him/His) From: Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 11:30:58 AM To: Brian Kirkendall <>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kirkendall, Brian <>; Lisa DeMars <lisa.deMars@medinamn.gov> Subject: RE: Hunter Lions Park and the new Pickleball courts [EXTERNAL E‐MAIL] Warning! This email originated outside of the organization! Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. As I said yesterday in my e‐mail to you Brian, please give me a call. Your e‐mail covers a lot of ground beyond the pickleball courts. Again, my number is 763‐473‐8842 Steve Scherer From: Brian Kirkendall <> Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 10:21 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kirkendall, Brian <>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Lisa DeMars <lisa.deMars@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park and the new Pickleball courts Yes it is a big change for sure that I know we didn’t anticipate between us and our neighbors we have talked to including impromptu discussion in backyard between 4 of us last night. The biggest thing is the early AM. People are consistently arriving 630‐7 AM. Certainly changes the dynamics of what early mornings are. Brian Kirkendall On Jun 6, 2023, at 8:56 AM, Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> wrote: 2 Thank you, again, for sharing this very helpful information with us. I can appreciate that after a year of little or no use, full use of the park at this magnitude is a significant change. On Jun 4, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Brian Kirkendall <> wrote: This is a good example of the sound I was talking about that has been going on since around 7. This if from our deck. 2 pickle ball courts going, tennis court and someone playing music although thankfully they don’t have it at volume many do when they bring music. You can see the view of what once was the baseball field and trees is now this what we see and I am just surprised no through was given to blend into the surroundings or shield this. There is enough space between the road and sidewalk for plantings like river birch or pines or a mix of both that would make for this court to be much more in line with the surrounding area and not just this structure by the road. <opengraph-content-icon-folder-dropbox- landscape.png> Pickleball dropbox.com Brian Kirkendall On Jun 1, 2023, at 2:00 PM, Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> wrote: Mr. Kirkendall, Thank you for your email. Our Public Works Director Steve Scherer and his staff are monitoring the new pickleball courts. He is out of the office until Monday and will follow up with you next week. Scott Johnson City of Medina From: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2023 1:05 PM To: Kirkendall, Brian < Cc: Brian Kirkendall <>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park and the new Pickleball courts Thank you for your comments. I am copying in our key staff members to review your thoughts. 3 On May 31, 2023, at 11:14 AM, Kirkendall, Brian <> wrote: Added my personal email as I just remembered our work email can at times be heavy handed to blocking and deleting emails from sources the system doesn’t recognize so if you respond I wanted to make sure I saw it. From: Kirkendall, Brian Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2023 11:03 AM To: kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov Subject: Hunter Lions Park and the new Pickleball courts Hi Mayor. I am a resident of Hamel/Medina. I live right across the street from the park and the new courts. The courts certainly seem to be creating a lot more traffic at the park than has been there since we moved in 10 years ago. The courts are creating a few challenges that I think the city needs to adjust given it is directly across the street and beside a number of residential houses. It is frankly starting to cause some real issues for those of us that live by it as it is certainly getting used daily now and for extended periods of the day. The rules need to be more prominent and take into account others beyond the park users. What was once a nice quiet space is changing. Here are some suggestions: 1.Hours: the courts can’t be sunrise to 10pm as stated in the park hours online. There are people there at 7am both this morning and yesterday. The sound of pickleballs being hit in those courts echoes across the street and is easily heard and disruptive. If you have never played or heard pickleball it makes a loud noise as it is essentially two pieces of hard plastic coming into contact with each other. It is much louder than tennis and since you end up with more people in a smaller space, the sound is exponentially increased. So you can no longer sleep with your windows open or sit on your deck for a quiet start to the morning. One way to do that would be to lock the courts during certain hours so people cannot get in. There are ways to do that remotely that would not involve someone physically having to put a lock on the gate. 2.There needs to be rules against using speakers and playing music at the courts. There are groups that come to play pickleball and then 4 play music on Bluetooth speakers above the sound of the pickleball which makes it very loud and disrespectful to others in the courts and the park 3.There should not be alcohol allowed. From what I have seen, those that come is a mix of use between unsupervised minors and adults. The adults bringing coolers of beer/seltzers etc isn’t really appropriate beside two young kids playing for fun 4.People should not be able to tie up their dogs to the courts while they play. That creates a few potential issues. There are unsupervised children in the park and at some point a dog/child interaction will end badly. There are dogs barking as ball goes back and forth (happened this weekend – it was constant). Then the obvious of dog waste that will be there when baseball games start at the field. 5.Which begs the question of should there be unsupervised children rules. I believe a park is a public space and if there are kids that want to ride their bike to a park to play I don’t have an issue with that. When our kids were younger they would go across the street to the park and play football with their friends or basketball at the court. So would be unfair for me to say anything different. The adults need to be respectful of the kids though and that’s why I bring up the alcohol and dogs. 6.There should be rules against any leagues forming and taking away public use. The courts are intended for general public use and not leagues. The courts should not be able to be reserved. There was an instance this weekend when courts got full of two kids – I would guess 8 to 10 years old – were told to leave by a large group that showed up. I was sitting on our deck and saw the kids play and then talked to and then leave and so I asked them what happened and they were told there were games scheduled and they had to leave. That isn’t right. Lastly I am very disappointed the city and HOA were not in concert here to help block the view as that huge court just jumps out now and takes away what was a pleasant greenscape as you go down the road or from the neighboring houses (including ours). I understand there is always debate on progress and park usage vs home owners. What should have been taken and 5 reflected in our zoning laws is space between the road and the courts so trees / shrubs etc could have been done so the courts are more part of the landscape vs just this huge eye sore that dominates the landscape. As a city and town of Hamel we are better than that. We live in such a great place and to have that large court become the defining view on the road without thinking of view of residents and the overall aesthetic of our town is a miss. If the courts were further back from the road and trees planted in front it would be a much different view of the park. Look at the Legion park how the tennis court is not viewed from the road or the parking area. That type of zoning is what we should expect in Medina. Please tell me there will not be lights installed and an expectation of lighted night hours as that would be awful. Thank you for reading. I am sure your role and others in the city government have to take in many factors. I am sharing with you the early results now that the courts are active so the city can make changes and adapt as the park is used and the new courts are used. Brian Kirkendall 3185 Butternut Drive Hamel, MN 55340 <image001.jpg> 1 From:Brian Kirkendall <> Sent:Friday, July 14, 2023 6:42 AM To:Kathleen Martin; Dino Deslauriers; Todd Albers; Steve Scherer; Kate Agarwala; Cathy Carr Subject:Play started at 6am I took this as I was leaving for work. I left the time stamp so you would see it is 630am. We need to get the hours changed as discussed at last council meeting. You can not sleep with windows open as this is what you would wake up to. This is not an anomaly. 2 3 Brian Kirkendall 1 From:Brian Kirkendall <> Sent:Sunday, July 16, 2023 9:27 PM To:Kathleen Martin; Todd Albers; Steve Scherer; Joseph Cavanaugh; Kate Agarwala; Cathy Carr; Crinny Kirkendall Subject:915 PM and still going I sent you a time stamp picture starting when I woke up at 545 AM and a picture at 607am. Now I am heading to bed to read and here is a time stamp picture at 915PM. It’s a bit hard to make out because it is almost dark. So from 545 am‐ 915pm. The only break in activity was the brief period it rained. Another day completely unable to sit on my deck upstairs or patio downstairs and enjoy reading the New York Times in the am and trying to finish the John Grisham novel “The Guardians” I started in the pm. 2 3 Brian Kirkendall 1 From:Brian Kirkendall <> Sent:Sunday, July 23, 2023 9:03 PM To:Kathleen Martin; Todd Albers; Dino Deslauriers; Joseph Cavanaugh; Robin Reid; Steve Scherer Subject:Assessment after first few days First thank you all for taking some ac on. Steve thank you for being so prompt on pu ng up the banners ‐ your turnaround was great. I am sure the police didn’t want to have to monitor the court but they were prompt and consistently took ac on ‐ I really am grateful for what they do. Part of why I love living in Hamel is I don’t ever worry about things, you always feel safe ‐ they do a great job (even though they did give me a speeding cket right in front of my own house on Hunter Drive last year ‐ but I deserved it). I saw a few mes people showed up early and were dissuaded by the new banners. Tonight people were there un l around 830. Almost each day there were people early and late but I am sure if messaging stays clear that will stop. For me it was a nice start ‐ and I was able to enjoy reading my paper this AM in peace. Again thank you ‐ none of you took your role to deal with residents complaining about noise at a court but you are taking ac on any way. I can’t wait to see some trees / natural landscape as I think when you can’t see it as clearly your mind won’t focus on the sound as much either. It will make the structure blend in more with the surroundings. One sugges on ‐ in the name of consistency can we get the same banners put up at the other tennis court in the park with the same hours? I think if the courts are the same hours and noted as court hours on the banner (not park hours), it reinforces the message and is more clear. Having two structures 100 feet apart without same messaging leaves open a path to confusion that isn’t necessary. The cleaner, clearer and more consistent the communica on the easier for all par es including the police. Thank you again! Brian Kirkendall 1 From:Brian Kirkendall <> Sent:Wednesday, July 26, 2023 10:52 AM To:Kathleen Martin; Todd Albers; Dino Deslauriers; Joseph Cavanaugh; Robin Reid; Steve Scherer Subject:First two house showings From Edina Realty agent this AM: “My client would have been a hard yes. Loved the house. Loved the area. The noise from the courts and the loca on of them so close to the house makes it a no unfortunately” From agent yesterday “what a great house. My clients are going to keep looking. It isn’t a no but they are concerned at the noise on the porch from the courts and how prevalent it is” Our worst fear realized. We put our house up for sale star ng Monday and have had 3 showings. I knew we were not exaggera ng the poten al impact of this. This is why there are so many open lawsuits across the country on this issue. Those are just the facts. Brian Kirkendall From:Dusty Finke To:Dusty Finke Cc:Lisa DeMars; Scott Johnson Subject:Park Commission - Additional comments re: Hunter Lions pickleball Date:Monday, September 18, 2023 4:05:28 PM Attachments:Emails-09-18-2023.pdf Hello Park Commissioners! Attached are 10 additional comments related to the Hunter Lions Park pickleball discussion. Five of the comments were received over the weekend and five of the comments were inadvertently not included in your packet. I have also copied two emails below (one was in your packet, and the 2nd is in the attached document). These emails included hyperlinks to some articles, so we wanted to make sure you could access the information. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you for all you do! Dusty Finke | Planning Director | City of Medina Direct: (763) 473-8846 • dusty.finke@medinamn.gov 2052 County Road 24 • Medina, MN • 55340 Emails w/ Hyperlinks: From: Cathy Carr < > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 12:54 PM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala <>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov> Subject: Moving forward Hello all, In response to Dusty's proposition for fencing around the pickleball courts on Hunter to hopefully, yet unproven, alleviate the noise of the pb courts, I ask that you take some time to dig into these articles and familiarize yourself with the information included. A quick analysis of the ESI report seems to indicate that the courts on Hunter are within MN standards. However, If you read the articles below on Noise Fundamentals and the current community standards, you will see that due to its impulse sound which is NOT accurately reflected on the ESI report, the courts will be above the current standards with the penalty applied (see Article from Science Direct below). Some current sound studies on other locations in the US have applied a 12 db penalty to accurately reflect the impulse noise pickleball creates. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022460X96900772 · Annoyance penalty of impulsive noise – The effect of impulse onset 2020, Building and Environment Citation Excerpt : The measures are described in Fig. 1 where the A-weighted SPL time profile is analyzed with Fast time weighting, LAF. The method suggests that the sampling of LAF is made using 10–25 ms time window, which conforms with the suggestion of Rice [14]. The starting point of an impulse is the first point where the first order linear regression slope between two consecutive SPLs is over 10 dB/s. Impulsive sound can be perceived more annoying than a steady-state sound having the same A-weighted equivalent sound pressure level, LAeq. The difference in perceived noise annoyance can be compensated by adding a penalty or an adjustment k to LAeq (rating level). Many legislations apply a constant penalty value, such as 5 dB or more, but the validity of this procedure has been questioned. Nordtest method NT ACOU 112 identifies an impulse from the time profile of sound pressure level by using two measures describing the onset of an impulse: level difference (DL) and onset rate (Ron). The purpose of this study was to determine how the annoyance penalty depends on DL (5–40 dB) and Ron (5–800 dB/s) and to compare obtained results to the penalty prediction model of Nordtest method. A psychoacoustic laboratory experiment of 32 participants was conducted. Synthetic and periodic impulsive sounds were studied with two alternative spectra. The sounds were presented at 55 dB LAeq. Steady-state sounds at levels 49–70 dB were used to derive the penalty of impulsive sounds. The observed penalty values ranged between 0 and + 8 dB. The penalty values depended somewhat on spectrum. The penalty deviated from zero when DL > 10 dB or Ron > 15 dB/s and increased with increasing DL and Ron. The penalty predicted by Nordtest method usually overestimated the observed penalty when Ron ≥ 200 dB/s. The results are against constant penalty values and they can be used to develop future penalty schemes. In addition, Jan 2023 articles.... On sound barriers and effectiveness -> https://pickleballscience.org/pickleball-sound-barriers/ On noise and community standards NOT accurately reflecting impulse noise -> https://pickleballscience.org/pickleball-community-noise/ On Noise Fundamentals including accuracy of readings -> https://pickleballscience.org/acoustic- fundamentals/ · Acoustic reflections off of adjacent barriers, nearby structures, and trees will provide a direct sound transmission path to the residence. · Reverberations within the enclosed court will prolong the sound duration, cause echos, and amplify the impact noise like the soundbox of an acoustic guitar. · Refraction by the atmosphere (i.e., inversion layers) can direct the sound downward towards the residence at certain times of the day. Acoustical engineers will therefore conservatively estimate that sound barriers such as those used on pickleball courts will provide only 10 dB of sound attenuation. Although a 10 dB reduction of sound level equates to a halving of the perceived loudness level, it is often not adequate to satisfy homeowners and communities. Furthermore, vinyl barriers that are hung on fences are prone to weathering and tearing and may not otherwise be suitable for use in high wind areas. I am requesting the following to be considered immediately: 1. A side by side quote on the actual costs of fully (including doors) enclosing the courts with a sound barrier with proven data of effectiveness (not just the claims from its manufacturer) VS an actual quote to move the nets and restriping of the courts to one of the tennis courts at Hamel Park. Until these numbers are actualized, there is NO way to know which is the most fiscally responsible use of taxpayers monies in rectifying this issue. No additional monies should be spent without knowing all the data possible at decision time. 2. The elevation of the homes along Hunter must include the 1st (not ground level) AND 2nd floor (bedrooms and additional living areas) spaces. These must be considered on the noise travel projections. Considering only the deck height is not enough for accuracy. Noise travels up as the articles illustrate and will go up and above the fencing line. 3. As Rohit Agwarla suggested in his email of 9/14/23, if the new pickleball (pb)courts are to be wrapped and no pb is allowed on the new tennis court, then it is clear the old tennis/pb court is now an issue. It seems in separate conversations with Steve and Dusty, that the old tennis/pb court is now staying even though the original Park plans that were presented to the public for comment, indicate it being removed. If it stays and pb is permitted to be played there, it must be also wrapped with fencing. Has this cost also been factored in? We cannot continue to do one thing one place and another not be included when the courts are in such close proximity. We already saw this error when hours were changed for the new courts and then pb players just went over to the old tennis/pb court to play after 8pm. Consistency all around must be in place. In conclusion, at what point does Medina stop spending time and money on efforts to appease the pb players and admit an error of location was made? The description of this Park on our own City of Medina website states: HUNTER LIONS PARK Location: This park is located at 3195 Hunter Drive in the Hunter Farms subdivision. Description: This neighborhood park is 6.8 acres in size and mainly serves the residential properties south of Hamel Road along Hunter Drive. If this park is designated to serve our neighborhood, then WHY is pb being allowed here when it is a known fact that players are from all over Plymouth and the surrounding areas. This is slated as a small residential park and now is being used by non Medina residents for a sport attracting hundreds daily. Meanwhile, the courts and park space at the 40 acre Hamel Park sit unused a majority of the day. The need to jam in one of the most highly controversial sports, with NO indication of any research from the City administrators into its potential effects on the surrounding residents, into a tiny residential park is unacceptable and frankly unnecessary. As I stated in my speech to the City Council on 7/18/23, the City Code Book of Medina has outlined this in Section 330.01 Public Nuisance Defined. It states a nuisance as “a situation that maintains or permits a condition which unreasonably annoys, injures or endangers the safety, health, morals, comfort or repose of any considerable number of members of the public”. In addition, the 2022 MN Statute 609.74 Public Nuisance maintains the same wording. It is followed by Statute 609.745 stating that “whoever having control of real property permits it to be used to maintain a public nuisance or lets the same knowing it will be so used is guilty of a misdemeanor.” MN Private nuisance laws are defined formally as anything “injurious to health, indecent or offensive to the senses, or an obstruction to the free use of property, so as to interfere with the comfortable enjoyment of life or property. Read that last sentence again please. This is a nuisance to your constituents...no question. This must be rectified immediately. Do the proper analysis of the abundance of articles on pb and its effects, run the numbers but most importantly... listen to your residents who deal with this situation every day. If you would spend an entire day in one of our homes...you would realize the egregiousness of the decision to put pb at Hunter Park. Standing courtside for 15 minutes is not an accurate analysis. Relying on a noise study with insufficient metrics is also not accurate. As I write this, my back door is closed, no windows are open and there are 2 pb games going on. I can hear the popping sounds of the ball in the front office space of my home. This is an unwelcome intrusion to our lives that should have never happened yet can be fixed. Please move the pb courts to Hamel Park. Cathy From: Cathy Carr < > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 10:40 AM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov> Subject: News clips Good morning. Just to keep everyone in the loop, I am sending a link to 72 news clips currently on You Tube related to pickle ball noise issues and proximity to residents nationwide. I realize you will not watch them but I send them to illustrate the sheer amount of widespread problems this sport brings to residents. Please also bear in mind that these are residents that chose to engage with newspeople and make their plight known because they could not get heard any other way. I can imagine there are numerous other towns in the situation we are that have not engaged with media. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiE_-sJ-53KyaqmqbvSHRPJqLh1zbgEcq&si=bMhIyvm_Rc7IKuGR The messages are all the same. The courts are too close to homes and the game is too loud. Residents have lost the use of their home as they once knew it. The sound permeates walls and is persistent. The resident’s mental and physical health is being impacted. I ask your consideration for your constituents impacted by this game. For some it is a fun game. For others it is a health hazard. Since when does an element of fun overrule a health hazard for residents? The players have every right to play in the correct venue. Those of us near these courts should have a right to use our home as we used to before the courts opened and not suffer mentally and physically from this game and its negative effects. I’d like to think that is the intent of the Council…to provide a benefit to the community. Currently, the ONLY clear benefit is for the players. I’d venture to say that pickle ball will be just as popular over at Hamel Park. Can you think of any reason they wouldn’t play there? I’d love to hear it. Cathy Carr From: Anthony Weldon < > Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 1:44 PM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Subject: Hamel Park Hello Ms. Martin - Love the new Pickle Ball Courts... Great win for the community. Just wondering though if they could be flipped to the court nearest the playground? It's oddly loud for surrounding houses. Thanks! Tony Weldon Hello Mayor Kathleen Martin, I am a resident of Medina and I live in the Enclave subdivision off of Hunter drive. I am writing today regarding the new pickle ball court that was put up in the park across from our subdivision. I was wondering if it would be possible to plant more trees around the court and align the street to help block some of the noise. The pickle ball court is used frequently, so anything that can be done to add more trees would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your consideration. Tonya & Randy Austin 3171 Butternut Drive Medina, MN 55340 On Jun 23, 2023, at 2:02 PM, Tad & Diana <> wrote: Dear Mayor Martin, We are 10-year residents of the Enclave neighborhood and live on Butternut Drive, just across the street from the new pickleball/tennis courts. Although we welcome the post-pandemic opportunities for fun in our community, our family has had some concerns with this new development to the park. With these observations, we also have some suggestions (which we understand are also supported by other neighbors, e.g. the Carr Family who live just a few houses south of us). 1. Noise. As you might agree based on onsite observation, the noise that the pickleball rackets give is very noticeable, even when only one court is being used. (This is a problem in communities nationwide of course.) Unlike tennis, these are smaller courts with more frequent ball hits, so the sound is loud and continuous. Add to it the fact that the city took down several trees west of our backyards. We now have not only an unsightly view of a chain link fence, we also have to hear the conversations and reactions of the pickleball players. It is a sound that is hard to ignore, and only likely to increase as word spreads about this new opportunity for pickleball players to have fun. This may drive down the value of our home because of the constant, loud, and annoying noise. Had we known a pickleball court with a chain link fence was in our future backyard view, we might've chosen a different lot when we built our house. 2. 3. Furthermore, the posted hours of pickleball say sunrise to sunset, and we see that is in fact happening. There's no chance for a quiet morning coffee on our porch even at the early hour of 7:15 a.m. because, weather permitting, we can count on the courts being used from sun up until the bugs come out at sundown. The courts are definitely being used by people from all over the Twin Cities as evidenced by Facebook posts encouraging people to play. So, despite posted rules indicating the courts are for residents and their guests, we now expect full use of these courts all day, every day, spring through fall, weather-permitting. 4. 5. Parking. As a trending sport, the courts are full almost everyday. With the full courts, come fuller parking lots. Since the development is still in progress, we as nearby Enclave residents worry about what will happen when events like baseball games, basketball practices, and tennis practices also require parking spaces. This is a concern for us residents as we do not want random park goers parking in our neighborhood. Alternatively, we do not want an expanded parking lot either as that would only add to the current eyesore we have to look at. 6. 7. Traffic. We were told traffic on Hunter Drive was at 10% when we moved here and it was expected to increase to 20-30%. We are not experts on how to gauge traffic, but we can anecdotally say that traffic has increased quite a bit so far, and will likely increase more so as the park development continues. If there is any way to contain this, we would appreciate that. Perhaps our suggestions below can do that. Suggestions: 1. Move the pickleball courts to the Hamel Legion Park and let our backyard park hold tennis courts instead. Yes, there are tennis lessons at Legion Park courts, but those have contained times of popular use. More, so the general play of tennis is quieter in ball strikes and rowdiness among players. Why Legion Park? First, there aren't houses within a few hundred yards of the courts (something we think could have been considered when creating the Lions Park courts). Next, there are ample trees - and room for more - in Lions Park to absorb the noise of play. Finally, there is more parking in this park and even room for more, should it be deemed necessary. In addition, this should decrease some of the traffic we are seeing on Hunter Drive and move it to the more obvious main street of Hamel Road instead. 2. Plant trees on the eastern side of Lions Park. Regardless of the courts, we are dismayed that our park haven which brought us to Medina ten years now holds a chain link fence and no trees. While we do understand the need to expand a park due to the growth of the community, we cannot understand why greenspace was removed completely. Again, this impacts our present views and sound quality but also hurts our house valuation. Thank you for your attention to this matter and for allowing us to voice our concerns. We look forward to hearing back from you/the city council regarding these or alternative suggestions. Warm regards, Allard Family 3217 Butternut Dr Medina, MN 55340 > Dear Mayor Mar�n, > > Our family lives in the Enclave community in Medina. We have growing concerns about the noise coming from the pickleball courts behind our house. The noise is loud and constant from daybreak to sunset and is interfering with our ability to enjoy our outdoor space. Is there anything that can be done? Thank you for your �me and considera�on. > > Thank you, > Adriana and Brandon Hughes > 3249 Buternut Drive > Medina, MN 55340 Hi Lisa, Yes my household is one that ends up contacting the city if there are issues. I live directly right behind the courts on 3217 Butternut. Anna lives nextdoor. I’ve emailed the mayor twice and have gotten a bit of an idea of the current situation happening there. Court hours were a smart idea to add, but that won’t take away the main issue which is the courts being right next to many residential houses. Personally, I have no issues with the sport of pickleball. I play it with friends and it’s a blast. The issue is when us neighbors here the constant, and it really is constant “pluck” of the paddles/ball, it drives us a little crazy. Add that in with 4 courts in session and people being loud and you can get a mental picture of what us neighbors have to deal with from 8am-8pm every single day. I mentioned to the mayor that this pickleball court part of the plan was not a good idea. I like how we are getting a new playground and a new baseball field (though that area could still use some improvement). Me, and most my neighbors, support the new park plan on everything except the pickleball courts. When it’s 200 feet away, it’s just to close to us! What I’m about to say probably won’t sit well with the city and would be costly but maybe think about putting the courts in Hamel Legion Park by the big hill. It’s away from residential houses and is a beautiful spot for get togethers. I head out there almost daily on a bike ride and it’s perfect. Maybe take the current tennis courts there and replace them with pickleball courts. Please consider this or some alternative option! Just my ideas and I’m sorry if I ranted a bit here but this is an issue that needs to be addressed as we haven’t gotten much answers to the “long term solution”. I don’t think it’s too late to change some things around so we take away the stress from the police, us neighbors, and the staff with the city in this project. I love this park and the community in general. You and your staff have made the Harriet Woods, Legion Park, and so many other spots a perfect spot to go out and enjoy nature. In the meantime though regarding the pickleball courts, us neighbors will continue to provide feedback to the city and call the non emergency number for the police if necessary. Thanks, Gavin Allard On Sep 15, 2023, at 2:36 PM, Qingqing Liao < > wrote: Hi, I am writing to bring the situation to your attention. The pickle ball field at Hunter Park in Medina is too noisy all day long. It disturbs our daily life as residents at Enclave community. It gave us anxiety hearing it unstop. I hope to have the courts moving to Hamel Park. Best wishes, Qingqing Liao & Lue Du Dear Kathy/Scott/Dusty, We are writing to you as concerned neighbors from the Enclave Medina community who have been severely impacted by the recent addition of pickle ball courts. We are one of the homes that are directly across from the courts who are impacted by the noise being generated by activities in the courts. As you are aware, this issue has been raised multiple times by impacted neighbors in the community and we want to share our concerns as well. We have been living in this neighborhood for over 10 years now and the recent addition of multiple pickle ball courts has had an adverse impact for all of us. While it's great that the city and its residents have access to these facilities, it comes at a severe cost to some of us who can't do anything about it. The crowds who flock the courts over summer make it a continuous affair of noise (especially the noise made with the balls/paddles) most of the day on weekends and morning/weekends on week days. Most of us in the area have invested in patios and decks and we are unable to use that because of the amount of irritating noise coming from the courts which also impacts our privacy. Unfortunately, one of our neighbors has been so severely impacted by this change that they have decided to move out from their home. It's so sad to see that kind of impact to our long-standing neighborhood. We welcome you to come visit us and experience first-hand the daily impact this is causing to us by experiencing it in person from our back yards. It's fairly obvious to most of us that the courts are not just used by the nearby communities of Medina and Hamel but by residents of other nearby cities as well. And while these are community facilities and open to anyone, making residents and neighbors bear that cost for the benefit of external residents seems like a cost that is being born unfairly by a few of us. We understand the need for having outdoor sports facilities and that's why the suggestion from some in the community to leverage the areas/courts in the Hamel park area for pickle ball seems to be a fair compromise. Those areas are setup right from the beginning as community areas with baseball fields, volleyball courts, tennis courts, etc. There is also ample parking to support the crowds. Repurposing those tennis courts for pickle ball and repurposing the Lions park courts for tennis would leave the same number of courts in place and alleviate the struggle for a lot of us. Additionally with all these crowds being drawn from outside, being in that space allows some foot traffic to be drawn to the local businesses in the neighborhood who can benefit as well since they are so close by. So it seems there are multiple benefits to be gained by that move. We sincerely request that you consider the impact this is having on folks and make a balanced and fair compromise so that the community can have its facilities while also making it less impactful for us neighbors who don't have any choice/option except to just put up given that we are already in the area. Sincerely, Dinesh Chandran and Priyanka Pillai 3193 Butternut Drive, Medina (Residents of Medina Enclave community) Hello, I live at 3196 Buternut Dr. Medina MN 55340. We moved here in 2020 and have loved living in Medina. I would like to express our experience/opinion on the new pickle ball courts that were recently constructed and I would hope you will share my email with the Park Commission prior to the upcoming mee�ng. I do NOT live directly on the street side next to the pickle ball courts. I live across the street from those homes. Even with being a further distance away from the Pickleball courts I can hear the non stop noise when in my driveway or out in my yard. It is quite loud in my opinion and very annoying when trying to enjoy a nice summer day. My wife and I are both in our 30’s and do love to play pickle ball. We have used the courts ourselves and are a big fan of having them at the park…but just having them further away from the homes. In short, our opinion is to keep the Pickleball courts (as it is a great outdoor ac�vity) but come up with a plan to move them further away from the houses or design something that can minimize the annoying sounds coming from the courts (which is very loud). Please reach back out to me with any ques�ons or if you need any clarifica�on. Thank you, Charlie and Casteele Thauwald Dear Mayor Martin, Mr. Johnson and Mr. Finke- This letter is long overdue. We gave it a try without complaining, but what has taken place this summer with the introduction of pickleball courts behind our house became too much. The noise we are enduring each day from the courts is beyond what any of my neighbors or myself would have ever imagined when first shown the park plans. Our assumption from the plans was that the courts would generally produce noise akin to tennis courts at the park – this is just not true. The addition of pickleball courts is a dramatically different and intense noise nuisance w.r.t. pitch, volume, irregularity and hours of play. We can only assume that the city of Medina either lacked the due diligence in studying the effects of pickleball noise on neighborhoods or, if they did understand it, that they didn’t care if those nearby homes were so negatively affected. I hope that the former is the case, although that would be a poor statement in itself. As Fall approaches I hope that things can be righted so we don’t have to deal with another summer like this one. There has been a clear and economical solution that has been proposed to the park planning committee to relocate the pickleball court to the much larger Hamel park. The proposal makes perfect sense as the park can handle the increased activity, parking and most importantly, much longer distances to homes in the area. According to all the studies we see, the locations of courts in large acreage parks and not in smaller neighborhood parks are the effective solution. In addition to the spacing required, the courts in Hamel park have fully grown hedges surrounding which can assist abating pickleball noise – this is something that is will not be possible at Hunter neighborhood park due to lack of spacing required to the path and road. Overall for the cost of relocating posts, some chainlink and restriping this transformation can be done quickly and economically. I hope the park planning committee can follow through on the solution to this problem that has been created. It’s in everyone’s best interest long-term to give the pickleball the right home at Hamel Park. Let’s get to work on making that improvement for neighbors and families. Thank you, -Tad Allard 3217 Butternut Drive Mayor Kathy Martin: kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov City Administrator Scott Johnson: scott.johnson@medinamn.gov Planning Director Dusty Finke: dusty.finke@medinamn.gov From: Cathy Carr < > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 10:40 AM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov> Subject: News clips Good morning. Just to keep everyone in the loop, I am sending a link to 72 news clips currently on You Tube related to pickle ball noise issues and proximity to residents nationwide. I realize you will not watch them but I send them to illustrate the sheer amount of widespread problems this sport brings to residents. Please also bear in mind that these are residents that chose to engage with newspeople and make their plight known because they could not get heard any other way. I can imagine there are numerous other towns in the situation we are that have not engaged with media. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiE_-sJ-53KyaqmqbvSHRPJqLh1zbgEcq&si=bMhIyvm_Rc7IKuGR The messages are all the same. The courts are too close to homes and the game is too loud. Residents have lost the use of their home as they once knew it. The sound permeates walls and is persistent. The resident’s mental and physical health is being impacted. I ask your consideration for your constituents impacted by this game. For some it is a fun game. For others it is a health hazard. Since when does an element of fun overrule a health hazard for residents? The players have every right to play in the correct venue. Those of us near these courts should have a right to use our home as we used to before the courts opened and not suffer mentally and physically from this game and its negative effects. I’d like to think that is the intent of the Council…to provide a benefit to the community. Currently, the ONLY clear benefit is for the players. I’d venture to say that pickle ball will be just as popular over at Hamel Park. Can you think of any reason they wouldn’t play there? I’d love to hear it. Cathy Carr From:Dusty Finke To:Dusty Finke Cc:Lisa DeMars; Scott Johnson Subject:Park Commission - Additional comments re: Hunter Lions pickleball (9/19/2023) Date:Tuesday, September 19, 2023 4:43:20 PM Attachments:EmailsSent-09-19-2023.pdf Hello Park Commissioners, Attached are three additional emails which were received since yesterday afternoon related to the Hunter Lions pickleball discussion. I have also copied one of the emails below because it includes a hyperlink. Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions, thank you! Dusty Finke | Planning Director | City of Medina Direct: (763) 473-8846 • dusty.finke@medinamn.gov 2052 County Road 24 • Medina, MN • 55340 Email received w/ hyperlink: From: Cathy Carr <> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 8:23 AM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala <>; Rohit Agarwala<> Subject: ESI report question Good morning all, I ask you to take just 4 minutes to listen to this sound engineer speak to impulsive noise and its difference to ambient noise. https://soundcloud.com/nalinil/pickleball-noise-laws-must-change-w-panos-la? utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing ESI has stated in their report “these standards do not, by themselves, identify the limiting levels of impulsive noise needed for the preservation of public health and welfare.” The State of Minnesota does not have a separate noise standard for impulsive noise, and pickleball noise meets the State’s definition of impulsive noise”. This statement is why I sent the previous email about imposing a penalty of a minimum of 5db to the numbers provided. If this is done, the numbers WILL indicate the pickleball noise exceeds the current standards at multiple times the testing was performed. In addition, there IS proof in the report of exceeding MN standards. Under the Conclusion section from ESI: The monitoring included all noise in the environment, such as traffic, birds, weather generated sounds, pickleball, tennis, lawn mowers, etc., and for some hours the L10 and L50 levels exceeded the State noise standards. My question to you then is, how does Medina still justify the pickleball courts location in Hunter Lions Park? Known issues with accuracy in data, known issues with noise from multiple venues nationwide, known issues with effects on residents within 500-600 feet of courts, multiple complaints from residents along Hunter Rd and still the City maintains that this is an appropriate location? Please make this make sense to myself and my neighbors who are repeatedly asking for your help. I am also requesting this email and all others sent by me gets forwarded to the Park Committee as no emails have been provided for us to contact them directly. Cathy From: Gavin Allard < > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2023 4:06 PM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Cc: Subject: Fw: Hunter Lions Park - Pickleball Concerns Hello Mr. Finke, Mr. Johnson, and Mayor Martin. Down below is a email sent out in July to Mayor Martin about the pickleball courts. In my opinion, it will be best for the community to have the pickleball courts in Hamel Legion Park. Replace the existing tennis courts with pickleball courts. It will have a cost, but much less since there are already existing courts there. Pickleball is a loud game and even though it might be fun to play as a high schooler, hearing it at 8am- 8pm all through the summer from my own backyard (and my house) was not ideal. There are ways to fix this situation and I hope your group can find a solution. -Gavin Gavin Allard 3217 Butternut Drive Medina, MN 55340 Scouts/Business Email: Phone: Begin forwarded message: On Monday, July 24, 2023, 9:23 AM, Gavin Allard < > wrote: Good Morning Mayor Martin, My name is Gavin Allard and I’m reaching out on the pickleball courts across our street. My family, the Allard Family, have been annoyed by the constant “plunk” of the pickleball across the paddle since we first reached out to you on June 23rd. Articles and news stories have recently come out highlighting the issues with this sport and the noise. Originally I admit, I didn’t have a problem with having a pickleball court near my house. I could walk across the street to it and play it with my high school friends. Though the problems outweigh the positives which I’m about to touch on. First, I’m a little disappointed in the email that you sent back to my family when we reached out weeks ago with Cathy Carr and the group of neighbors. Is calling 911 really the most productive option for our police officers if the pickleballers get “too loud”? Just yesterday, Saturday July 22nd, one of my family members overheard a Medina cop at a local pool mention how they have been getting calls about people violating the times and/or being rowdy. Neighbors will keep calling in as long as this court is still here. My family has not called 911 yet but we are about to as early as today. As far as I’ve heard, there have been no solutions other than adding “court hours'' that people violate. The court hours signs are quite obnoxious as well as when we look out our window, we see this. Where are the trees that are supposedly in the original plan? Coincidentally as I’m writing this email draft on Sunday night here, there are 2 groups still playing at 8:20pm. I heard them out as late as 9:15pm the second day after the court hours sign went up. Ultimately what I’m trying to get at here is what is the long term option? Just keep calling 911? I strongly strongly hope that you and the staff consider putting the pickleball courts in Hamel Legion Park where the Medina Celebration Days happens. It would be perfect next to the existing tennis courts or behind it! I bike to that park almost everyday the last 4 years and I can tell you first hand there would be a whole lot less mess with this topic as it is farther away from houses. Just replace the pickleball courts at hunter lions here with a tennis court. When I go by the courts, I’m not recognizing local residents at all. I’m guessing that most are from Plymouth and surrounding areas. This has been a peaceful neighborhood and area since my family moved here as I entered second grade back in 2013. I hope it means something that it’s not just the adults in my neighborhood that are getting fed up with this, it’s also the kids. There are solutions to this problem and I hope that the council/staff of Medina takes this matter seriously. I am curious to hear your thoughts on this situation and what long term solutions there are. Ultimately I just want what's best for my neighborhood and this community. I understand that pickleball has grown in popularity, but putting a new court right by houses is not the right solution. Please feel free to reach out to me at my email here or my number at 612-963-1570 Thanks, Gavin Allard Family 3217 Butternut Drive Medina, MN 55340 From: Rohit Agarwala < > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 11:37 AM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov> Cc: Kate Agarwala < >; Cathy Carr < >; Brian Kirkendall < >; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Steve Scherer <steve.scherer@medinamn.gov> Subject: Re: Hunter Lions Park - Pickleball courts Thank you Dusty for your efforts. I made a map of our courts with the homes that have raised concerns. Can you please include this with the emails to send to the Park Commission? Thanks, Rohit Agarwala From: Cathy Carr < > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 8:23 AM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Kathleen Mar�n <kathleen.mar�n@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov>; Scot Johnson <scot.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Jason Nelson <jason.nelson@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala < >; Rohit Agarwala < > Subject: ESI report ques�on Good morning all, I ask you to take just 4 minutes to listen to this sound engineer speak to impulsive noise and its difference to ambient noise. htps://soundcloud.com/nalinil/pickleball-noise-laws-must-change-w-panos- la?utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing ESI has stated in their report “these standards do not, by themselves, iden�fy the limi�ng levels of impulsive noise needed for the preserva�on of public health and welfare.” The State of Minnesota does not have a separate noise standard for impulsive noise, and pickleball noise meets the State’s defini�on of impulsive noise”. This statement is why I sent the previous email about imposing a penalty of a minimum of 5db to the numbers provided. If this is done, the numbers WILL indicate the pickleball noise exceeds the current standards at mul�ple �mes the tes�ng was performed. In addi�on, there IS proof in the report of exceeding MN standards. Under the Conclusion sec�on from ESI: The monitoring included all noise in the environment, such as traffic, birds, weather generated sounds, pickleball, tennis, lawn mowers, etc., and for some hours the L10 and L50 levels exceeded the State noise standards. My ques�on to you then is, how does Medina s�ll jus�fy the pickleball courts loca�on in Hunter Lions Park? Known issues with accuracy in data, known issues with noise from mul�ple venues na�onwide, known issues with effects on residents within 500-600 feet of courts, mul�ple complaints from residents along Hunter Rd and s�ll the City maintains that this is an appropriate loca�on? Please make this make sense to myself and my neighbors who are repeatedly asking for your help. I am also reques�ng this email and all others sent by me gets forwarded to the Park Commitee as no emails have been provided for us to contact them directly. Cathy From:Dusty Finke To:Dusty Finke Cc:Lisa DeMars; Scott Johnson Subject:Park Commission - Additional comments re: Hunter Lions pickleball (9/20) Date:Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:30:22 PM Attachments:Emails-Sent-09-20-2023.pdf Hello Park Commissioners, Attached are eight additional emails we received today pertaining to the Hunter Lions pickleball discussion. We will print out the emails which were sent after the packet and have them available in case you need them. Thank you much and see you soon, Dusty Finke | Planning Director | City of Medina Direct: (763) 473-8846 • dusty.finke@medinamn.gov 2052 County Road 24 • Medina, MN • 55340 From: Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 8:44 PM To: Website Inquiries <city@medinamn.gov> Subject: Hunter Lions Park - Pickel Ball Courts Good Evening. I want to put in my support for the pickleball courts at Hunter Lions Park. The people I play with at the park weekly have heard that a neighbor near the courts is trying to limit or stop people from playing Pickleball. Our group that plays weekly and other people we know enjoy the courts and feel it’s a great community asset. Everyone we have encountered at the Pickleball courts follows all of the rules and respects the park, the other players, and the neighborhood. Our groups include people from Medina, Corcoran, and Plymouth, and we play at different parks in the area. We have never noticed any issues or reasons that someone would have an issue with the courts. The courts attract at diverse group of people of all ages. Thanks Tom Hewitt 20162 78th Place Corcoran, MN 5340 From: Bill Moss < > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 7:42 AM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; Dino Deslauriers <dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; Robin Reid <robin.reid@medinamn.gov>; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov> Subject: Save the Pickleball courts Good morning! I am emailing regarding the possible changes or removal of the new (beautiful) courts at Hunter Lions Park and some thoughts. >We use these courts weekly (after work) and have never been there without the courts being full (which speaks to the popularity) >The inclusivity is outstanding. It’s a perfect example of what makes America with all the different cultures and ages using the courts. Asian, Caucasian, Muslim, seniors, women, men, mixed couples and even some youngsters. You don’t see this diversity at a hockey rink, baseball fields or basketball. >What is the plan IF the courts are removed…what would make the complainant happy? What if the tennis courts are next? You can’t please everyone but you can please the greater good. >I can’t believe removing or further limiting the hours would even be open to discussion. The greater good of the community should easily outweigh the complaints of an individual who chose to move where a park is in the backyard. Thak you- Bill Moss From: Gary Graham < > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 10:50 AM To: Website Inquiries <city@medinamn.gov> Subject: Hunter play field pickleball courts Hello, It was recently brought to my attention that there are some complaints and a petition going around to remove the Pickleball courts. I live close by and have played at the new Pickleball courts many times with friends and family this summer. I know firsthand how great they are for kids, adults, families, and anyone that just wants to do something healthy outdoors. These courts bring a smile to so many people, and they were built very well for the community to enjoy. I heard there is a meeting tonight and I unfortunately will not be able to attend, but please pass this along as I know many people who have thoroughly enjoyed these Pickleball courts, and will continue to use them on a regular basis in the future. I see many other open spaces in the community are not used nearly as much as that so it was money well spent and in a great location for the community. Perhaps a simple sound barrier could be put up on the sides facing residential areas? Best Regards, Gary Graham Get Outlook for iOS From: Angie Shannon < > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:51 PM To: Website Inquiries <city@medinamn.gov> Subject: New submission from Contact Us Name Angie Shannon Comments I’m unable to attend the Park Commission meeting this evening but want to voice my support of the pickleball courts. The courts have been a great asset to our community bringing people together. It has also provided both physical and mental benefits to ages. For example, senior citizens who are widowed or just looking for others to bond with have had the opportunity to do so by playing pick up games at the courts. Thanks and in support of the courts! Angie From: Bakken, Lynnea N < > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:58 PM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov>; scott.johnson@medinmn.gov; Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Todd Albers <todd.albers@medinamn.gov>; deino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov; Joseph Cavanaugh <joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov> Subject: Hunter Lions Park (Hamel) Pickleball - Planning Commission topic Good afternoon, I heard there is a planning commission meeting taking place today and one of the agenda topics is due to complaints about the noise caused by the pickleball courts being added to Hunter Lions Park and an argument to have them removed. I wanted to share how much I appreciate the investment to add them, and I love having the option to bike over there with my daughter (we live in the Enclave next door) and play a game that is very family friendly. I would question that the pickleball courts would be any noisier than a gaggle of kids on the playground or people playing tennis on the nearby courts as well. Every time I drive by there is at least one group of people playing pickleball, so it is clearly a sport of interest to those in the area, and a great opportunity to get more people out and about and physically active. It would be really sad to see such a great investment be removed from the area. Please don’t remove the pickleball courts. My active family of 4 would love your support to keep them there. ���� Thanks for listening and for investing your time to make Medina great. Cheers, ____________________ Lynnea Bakken From: Cathy Carr < > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:26 PM To: Dusty Finke <dusty.finke@medinamn.gov>; Scott Johnson <scott.johnson@medinamn.gov>; Kate Agarwala < >; Rohit Agarwala < > Subject: Meeting tonight Dusty & Scott, I just saw this post on Facebook. This kind of posting is likely to have players show up to support the courts this evening. I have to ask for your consideration to keep in mind the following: 1.This is absolutely inaccurate as you both know we are asking for courts to move, NOT be removed from Medina. This is false information being spreading online. 2.Anyone just showing up based on that post, has NO back story on the issues we are experiencing. They clearly ONLY want to play a game rather than be a responsible citizen for the community. 3.As you know, you have been supplied with numerous article, news clippings, scientific studies and multiple neighbor complaints all on the same issue...the noise. It's all the same complaint and its nationwide. This is not just a Medina issue and anyone who has access to that information or who cared to look further into would see that. I am writing to ask you to remember your duty to the residents most affected by these courts whose livelihood is disrupted daily. I ask you to remember that this is a park for ALL to enjoy and right now, it is not being used that way as players are disrespectful in their multiple violation of hours, language and use of the courts. I'd like to think this was not the intent of the City to install such a volatile activity over at Hunter. Lastly, remember this is a luxury for players to have access to free courts. They will still have that opportunity when the courts are moved to Hamel. They also get restrooms, parking closer to the courts and no one complaining. Sounds like a win-win. Again...this is a game they are fighting for. We, along Hunter, are fighting for our use of our home and our physical and mental health. Which is more important in the end? Thanks for the open mind on this...there really is a way to satisfy players and residents. Keeping the courts as-is, will definitely not do that. Cathy Carr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Facebook Hamel Medina page today: Anyone who enjoys playing Pickleball at the new courts on Hunter in Hamel….. please consider showing up to the planning commission meeting at 7pm tonight at the Medina city hall. Some neighbors over there have complained and are pushing to have the courts removed. They will be there tonight so we need positive voices to show up and support the courts so we can keep them. It is the first item on the agenda this evening so it would be easy to show up, support the city and courts and then be gone right after. Please consider helping if you are a pickle ball player! I encourage you to attend in person if possible, a voice has much more impact than a letter. However, if you cannot attend please consider sending positive feedback to the following City Members today, it only takes a few minutes and it can be done in one email sent to all of the people listed below: Mayor Kathy Martin: kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov City Administrator Scott Johnson: scott.johnson@medinamn.gov Planning Director Dusty Finke: dusty.finke@medinamn.gov City Council: Todd Albers - todd.albers@medinamn.gov Dino Deslauriers -dino.deslauriers@medinamn.gov Joseph Cavanaugh - joseph.cavanaugh@medinamn.gov From: Mike Keegan < > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:51 PM To: Website Inquiries <city@medinamn.gov> Subject: Hunter Drive pickleball courts Hello, I'm writing in support of the pickleball courts on Hunter Drive. I'm part of a group of six adults in their 50s who use those courts along with others all over the northwestern suburbs over the course of the outdoor season. Pickleball has reached a level of popularity where there are more players than courts available and the Hunter Drive courts are a valuable community asset. Thank you, Mike Keegan From: Mandy Dixon < > Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 3:49 PM To: Kathleen Martin <kathleen.martin@medinamn.gov> Subject: KEEP the Pickleball Courts in Hamel/Hunter Field! Hi Mayor Martin, I'm a resident of Medina and cannot attend tonight's meeting. I want to share my opinion/vote to keep the pickleball courts on Hunter Field in Hamel. It's a great outdoor sport to play and people of all ages should be encouraged not discouraged to play even if it's a little noisy. I live next to 101 and traffic has increased, the noise has increased, but just like everyone else we adjust to it. Besides, most of the time outdoor pickleball only lasts a few short months in Minnesota. Thank you! Mandy Dixon